“To Gay or not to Gay” How The Gay Button Changes The Way We View Queer Gaming

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What do Baldur's Gate 3, Stardew Valley, Overwatch, Fallout 2, The Sims 4, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Genshin Impact, Hades and Undertale all have in common? that's right. Queer People. But not all queer games are created equal. Some, and a lot, suffer from The Gay Button. How do they? What is the Gay Button? Watch this video to find out!
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  • @EisSocial
    @EisSocial8 күн бұрын

    THANK YOU 4 WATCHING :D Come hang out with us on Twitch.tv/EisSocial !!! We are doing a marathon on June 28th and 29th come on down :D

  • @ssnekky
    @ssnekky9 күн бұрын

    “Thank you for more queer game content E” we all say in unison

  • @BonkedCat

    @BonkedCat

    9 күн бұрын

    RUI???????

  • @corinmiyuki4078

    @corinmiyuki4078

    9 күн бұрын

    YAAAASSSSS 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @dream6562

    @dream6562

    9 күн бұрын

    Naahhhh

  • @KanishkaRuhil

    @KanishkaRuhil

    9 күн бұрын

    RUIIII

  • @siri3242

    @siri3242

    9 күн бұрын

    Pfp checks out

  • @VAMiyoyu
    @VAMiyoyu9 күн бұрын

    Hoyo right as soon as LGBTQ censorship is lessened Me : "They've been gay?!" Hoyo : "Always have been..."

  • @The_Real_Prinzessin

    @The_Real_Prinzessin

    7 күн бұрын

    yes

  • @williemherbert1456

    @williemherbert1456

    6 күн бұрын

    Well yes, but no. Raiden Mei and Kiana are legit lesbian couple, same case with Bronya and Seele, but like Kaveh and Al-Haitam? What? No, they're hating each other and wanting to go separate way if Kaveh has the means necessary, while Ningguang and Beidou is just close friend and business partner in professional setting. Why can't we accept some characters are having blandish relationships that're not going personal? Like sure, Furina and Neuvi looks good on each other, but they're more workable as alike platonic friend and work partners. Lyney and MC can be said bisexual relationship, but he's more indicative of trusting us more than romantically liking us, but Jeht (NPC) is legit canon to liking FMC, and then Acheron and Black Swan isn't looking promising to work out yet as far as stories being told. To be honest, even MHY are playing safe not just in the regard of the queer relationship, but even straight relationship are all prone to cause chaos & infighting within community that would wreck their reputation, as we know both Kiana and Bronya can have such treatment because they're golden child of MHY, don't forget about wedded relationship of Kallen and Yae Sakura as legit canon.

  • @VAMiyoyu

    @VAMiyoyu

    6 күн бұрын

    @@williemherbert1456 I'm gay too

  • @VAMiyoyu

    @VAMiyoyu

    6 күн бұрын

    @@williemherbert1456 only hsr has gay characters rn

  • @williemherbert1456

    @williemherbert1456

    6 күн бұрын

    @@VAMiyoyu Yes, but borrowed from HI3 since they're Golden Child of MHY, except like Aventurine is gay as original development, but he's that kind of gay that like to fling around and always like to tease and seduce, I guess he's hypersexual as indicated by his flamboyant outlook. That ship with him and Dr. Ratio is unsatiable in my personal opinion, they have no depth to like each other than for casual fun for one and work partner by another between each other, however Dr. Ratio is all-time serious guy, kind of forcing up with both of them having to be together. I wish Acheron finds her very own Kiana in HSR, but for me now Black Swan isn't her Kiana in any capacity, not much common ground being found in their dynamic. Yeah, it's hard to establish a canon ship, worse still if they're gay while being playable side characters, they prefer to cater fanservice relationship with us the MC than establishing separated romantic world between characters beyond our sight as player, to give its world some liveliness. My best bet that would develop as romantic queer will be once again, Bronya and Seele in HSR.

  • @gue_erre
    @gue_erre9 күн бұрын

    Where’s the click “yes” to make them gay ? 🤭

  • @Cryo_Penguin

    @Cryo_Penguin

    9 күн бұрын

    character design U-U

  • @nacitalatincirli793

    @nacitalatincirli793

    9 күн бұрын

    They’re gay by default~

  • @Mintysaur
    @Mintysaur9 күн бұрын

    I genuinely forget that straight men also like characters like hange from aot, marcille from dungeon meshi, etc so whenever I see those big booba body pillows of them it scares me😭

  • @bbysiea

    @bbysiea

    9 күн бұрын

    YEAH 😭i love heavily sexualised characters because ironically enough a lot of the ones i've seen (mostly from genshin) have great story, and then all the fanart of them just concern me

  • @dream6562

    @dream6562

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@bbysiea to be honest as a straight guy a sexualized woman hits higher than a sexualized guy

  • @kickflipindi

    @kickflipindi

    9 күн бұрын

    mood. also hange x levi being such a popular ship. mama that's a lesbian. that is wlw/mlm solidarity.

  • @robinkisser

    @robinkisser

    8 күн бұрын

    marcille heavy bc she's just a gal 😭😭

  • @xenor2655

    @xenor2655

    8 күн бұрын

    if you want fanfiction to be accepted, you have to accept the misconceptions about fantasmed characters too. Each rules have a downside

  • @Sinder-StinkyLlama
    @Sinder-StinkyLlama9 күн бұрын

    i think that the second queer censorship is lessened in china(if that ever happens lets not get our hopes up) Hoyo is just gonna be like "THEY'RE GAY AND THEY'RE GAY AND AND THEM GUESS WHAT THEY'RE GAY TOO."

  • @homabasiri2218

    @homabasiri2218

    9 күн бұрын

    You get a car, you get a car and you get a car 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @joaovictornogueira323

    @joaovictornogueira323

    9 күн бұрын

    Please hoyo confirm the sexualities at least, the shipping wars and the hate against straight/gay ships needs to stop

  • @KayKayBayForever

    @KayKayBayForever

    9 күн бұрын

    Nah, they’re never gonna do that. Part of the thing is that they need to keep all the playable characters “available” for the Traveler, since this kind of game it’s expected that you can think of yourself as the Traveler.

  • @juliap5907

    @juliap5907

    9 күн бұрын

    @@KayKayBayForever see this would make sense in the beginning of the game but it has since become clear that traveler is another character and not a stand in for the player. both aether and lumine have VERY distinct personalities and the entire story relies on them being actual characters. does that stop people from projecting onto them? no. also worth mentioning that hoyo has had canonical queer couples in their games before censors got to them - kiamei and bronseele being the most famous examples. in fact, bronseele actually *kissed* in the hi3 comic (which then had to be removed from the chinese version but it's still in the global one yay). so hoyo isn't scared of making the characters "unavailable" to the player. in both genshin and hsr there is actually only a handful who show any romantic interest in the traveler or trailblazer (the ones mentioned by E in the video while hsr has firefly for example). the rest exist completely on their own, often having deeper relationships with each other than with the MC.

  • @minius8514

    @minius8514

    9 күн бұрын

    @@juliap5907 You're correct in saying that the traveler is a character of their own, especially after the recent dain quest. However, it's also undeniable that they're also self-inserts; The former and the latter aren't necessarily exclusive. I think the reason why people think they're exclusive its because they take the term "self-insert" too literal. Like its 1:1 copy of them. The Wikipedia definition highly differs from how the community uses the term, but in any case, a self-insert can be any character that is bland enough and generic looking so that any person can self-insert with them. The most common way to do this? Silent Protagonist, and so happens that the Traveler is also one. Sorry for the yap, but if anyone wants a good example and easy to understand, I always lead them to "The Jim Button" from Stanley Parable.

  • @Aeonian_puppy
    @Aeonian_puppy9 күн бұрын

    I love the fact that Blizzard saw that Tracer was the most over sexualized of their characters and went “Yk what no, none for you, she’s a girl kisser now. That’s right back off” Like fuck blizzard but that I can respect

  • @yamatanoorochi3149

    @yamatanoorochi3149

    9 күн бұрын

    W blizzard

  • @chongwillson972

    @chongwillson972

    9 күн бұрын

    @Aeonian_puppy I don't think people care that much for the lore in porn.

  • @lenaalt2387

    @lenaalt2387

    8 күн бұрын

    @@chongwillson972 it probably just led to even more, let's be real

  • @Captain-J-Amadaeus

    @Captain-J-Amadaeus

    8 күн бұрын

    As a fan of GL content, the change didn’t really affect me. Also the addition of Emily just led to more sexualised content.

  • @kwaakwoo
    @kwaakwoo9 күн бұрын

    Oh no… now no game is safe from the sapphic hands of E

  • @katl.7022
    @katl.70229 күн бұрын

    Signalis is so good you guys I promise!!! It's like a clasic "Where's my wife?" survival horror game but you play as a gay anime android lady and the true horror was authoritarianism the whole time.

  • @catdownthestreet

    @catdownthestreet

    9 күн бұрын

    That's a fantastic description

  • @user-od8jo5he2u

    @user-od8jo5he2u

    4 күн бұрын

    honestly, i was waiting for E to mention it, and when the video ended i was like what 😭 but yeah, they said they'd cover the more mainstream games here, so i hope if the video about indie ones does get released there will be at least a few words said on our doomed yuri space lesbians

  • @MoonChild8189

    @MoonChild8189

    Күн бұрын

    A promise? The promise you have to remember, that promise?

  • @maria-oh3rs
    @maria-oh3rs9 күн бұрын

    I saw the title and was praying for Hades and then short circuited when I saw Hades LMAO

  • @Nightbreakeryt

    @Nightbreakeryt

    9 күн бұрын

    No, cause that's literally why I'm here 😭

  • @ari_zona0

    @ari_zona0

    6 күн бұрын

    same!

  • @beanman9936

    @beanman9936

    Күн бұрын

    I was here for the BL2 bisexual glitch

  • @lazzy4742
    @lazzy47429 күн бұрын

    as a man who married alex in stardew valley we all know there was one person in that crowd who wanted to throw some tomatoes. and thats george

  • @klee4216
    @klee42169 күн бұрын

    love to see queen Miku in the background

  • @frogadicion

    @frogadicion

    8 күн бұрын

    isn't that Alhaitham?

  • @jaidynromero1924
    @jaidynromero19249 күн бұрын

    Also shout out to the outer worlds for having an ace lesbian as a main crew character with her own storyline and and cyberpunk 2077 for casual queer characters and trans rep with main character customization!

  • @zizirose6312
    @zizirose63129 күн бұрын

    you said "if you exist, EA will charge you for it" when my Sims 4 finished opening. Mildly horrifying.

  • @EmeisterKav
    @EmeisterKav9 күн бұрын

    The funny thing is with stardew, Krobus has become a very loved ace sexual icon of sorts. Cause he’s just a nice roommate that you can hug and stuff. No romance just vibes. Also the Roman’s/Greeks would “allegedly” fight harder when their husbands were there and many couples were poly due to many marriages being arranged and stuff. So not uncommon for there to be consensual non-monogamous relationships.

  • @20mgzoloft
    @20mgzoloft9 күн бұрын

    as a veteran overwatch player, i ended up trading one toxic ass game for another (....league of legends...) but the fruit salads will ALWAYS stay with me. queer games rule the world idcidc

  • @frogadicion

    @frogadicion

    9 күн бұрын

    From overwatch to league, what a downgrade joyride (same here bro)

  • @epicazeroth
    @epicazeroth9 күн бұрын

    The best part of Inquisition's romance options has got to be Iron Bull rejecting you if you aren't a sub

  • @cmmosher8035

    @cmmosher8035

    7 күн бұрын

    I get starry eyed thinking anout riding the bull.

  • @xalzaixhungers2442
    @xalzaixhungers24429 күн бұрын

    Honestly, one of my issues with baldur‘s gate 3 and the queer representation in it is how racism is still treated as a fact of life but queerness is just a non-issue. Like, every other character comments on me playing a drow but if I enter a bisexual polyamorous relationship with Halsin and Shadowheart they are just like „You love who you love“.

  • @chongwillson972

    @chongwillson972

    9 күн бұрын

    @xalzaixhungers2442 oh, that's because the drow are mostly really evil because of an evil god, and seeing a drow means you likely will be tortured or enslaved or murdered, by a person who has live for centuries. and there is a certain roleplay value of proving them wrong now this doesn't mean all drow are evil, it's just means they have an evil culture while the tieflings have more of a distrusted race, due to their bloodline ties to devil's, even though it dosent effect their morality at all. and dragonborn are more looked at as weird, due to showing up to the world recently, and are big scaly dragon people. though kobolds are not playable in baldur‘s gate 3, they would be fitted in the look down upon, are often see as nuisances/pests and gnomes REALLY racist to them. .

  • @worthfullmistook

    @worthfullmistook

    7 күн бұрын

    REAL i was walking around getting so much shit for being a tiefling and everyone was just ignoring me making out with gale 😭

  • @MsLilly200

    @MsLilly200

    7 күн бұрын

    Clearly, Larian decided their D&D world was inclusive. Personally I like that, we don't need to add every bad thing from the real world into made up escapism fantasy worlds. It can be nice to have lgbt people just be normal. And besides, there's nothing in the D&D guidebooks about prejudice around gender, and sexuality afaik. And in fact, the latest(iirc?) version of the guidebooks, 5e is pretty inclusive in it's wording around it.

  • @gr8tmess174

    @gr8tmess174

    7 күн бұрын

    I mean, I get your point but it's not *real* racism. If it were to be racist among humans that'd be an instant red flag, but pointy-pink-ears being mean to pointy-purple-ears doesn't affect real people since elves don't exist. BUuuut I've heard that they are adjusting it in 5.5e of dnd, at least for Tieflings! Still, in the game the relationship between different ancestries is portrayed as in cannon 5e dnd, which to me honestly makes the queer representation pop up more, the message for me being: "Why would they even bother having issues with queer people, they are not that stupid, not even NPCs with -5 INT".

  • @volta1103
    @volta11039 күн бұрын

    i never would've expected yae miko and astarion in a ytube thumbnail

  • @EisSocial

    @EisSocial

    8 күн бұрын

    they would be besties if you think about it

  • @snubby49

    @snubby49

    8 күн бұрын

    @@EisSocialoh my god they totally would be

  • @MrsSetsuna101

    @MrsSetsuna101

    8 күн бұрын

    ​@@EisSocial😂😂😂

  • @Gwen1661
    @Gwen16619 күн бұрын

    I no longer play overwatch but i still fondly of its cast for how varied and diverse they are in terms of nationalities, races and now queerness too. I remember when Tracer was the only queer in this game and now there's like... 5 or 6?? It's not much but it is an improvement.

  • @unluckyomens370

    @unluckyomens370

    9 күн бұрын

    Who are the others im not super caught up I havent played since a bit before brigs release but I do remember symmetra was really cool to see since the way her autism manifests is similar to mine . I feel like I vaguely remember a couple other queer heroes but when I try to remember a name or voice it doesnt happen

  • @kopakanuva566

    @kopakanuva566

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@unluckyomens370 Tracer and Pharah are lesbians, Baptiste is bi (maybe mauga too but uncomfirmed), Life Weaver is pan, Venture is nonbinary. So yeah 5 to 6

  • @Gwen1661

    @Gwen1661

    9 күн бұрын

    @@unluckyomens370 The canon LGBTQ+ charas in overwatch are Tracer (Lesbian), Soldier 76 (Gay), Pharah (Lesbian), Baptiste (Bisexual), Lifeweaver (Pansexual) and Venture (I believe non-binary???)

  • @delrodriguez9422
    @delrodriguez94229 күн бұрын

    I wanted to promote a game here with great queer rep that actually helped my friend transition and also happens to be my favorite game of all time its called "In Stars and Time" little time loop indie game about a party of a They/he ace gay protagonist accomied by his will they wont they trans boyfriend, a aroace girly pop, a nonbinary 8 year old and ambigous older woman implied to be queer but never specifed with lots of queer side characters aswell.

  • @delrodriguez9422
    @delrodriguez94229 күн бұрын

    Can we talk about how E is slaying absolutely murdering in this outfit also I stand the Acheron and Blackswan music

  • @kingaram5163
    @kingaram51639 күн бұрын

    The miku expo backdrop 😭😭😭

  • @mousysaint9143
    @mousysaint91439 күн бұрын

    LMAO when you brought up Fear and Hunger I was so happy and told my bf. Funnily enough he loves Fallout but can't stand fear and hunger.

  • @periodicgaming5159
    @periodicgaming51599 күн бұрын

    31:16 Man, this is too relatable. Breaking a heteronormative lens is SOOO tough to do.

  • @cyb3rl0v333
    @cyb3rl0v3339 күн бұрын

    I JUST GOT LEAH JUMPSCARED

  • @homabasiri2218
    @homabasiri22189 күн бұрын

    34:06 LMAO THE COMPLETE SWITCH UP FROM SAYING PEOPLE LIKE OVERWATCH 😭😭😭😭ITS GIVING ‘SAY SIKE’

  • @robertwoodsiv6282

    @robertwoodsiv6282

    4 күн бұрын

    LOL YEAH FR I WAS LIKE "Nah, that ain't right-" and then the switchup happened like oh ok-that's better-HSDFGNDGF

  • @imgayiswear7363
    @imgayiswear73639 күн бұрын

    YEAHHHHHHH FEAR AND HUNGERRR YEAHHHHHHH BABYYYYYY LETSSSS GOOOOOOOOO

  • @catdownthestreet

    @catdownthestreet

    9 күн бұрын

    YOU SOUND LIKE MY FRIEND LMAO

  • @rarusbackyard119
    @rarusbackyard11910 күн бұрын

    Yes another queer video from E I love these videos so much

  • @pixxelzecatto
    @pixxelzecatto9 күн бұрын

    “I contain multitudes” of trauma girl, are you okay?

  • @EisSocial

    @EisSocial

    8 күн бұрын

    i cried laughing at this thank you omfg

  • @dynastylobster8957
    @dynastylobster89578 күн бұрын

    fun fact about programming: checking if [can date and other.gender is not equal to self.gender, then date] requires more work than [if can date then date]. that is to say, we arent hiding 'the gay button', the game has no concept of sexuality unless you create those restrictions onpurpose. ergo, we as coders, aren't consciously choosing to hide the gay. it just so happens that a pansexual system is just simpler and thus more likely to be made. its not that we are adding a gay button, its that we aren't taking away the gay button. the gay button was always there.

  • @chalkk_
    @chalkk_9 күн бұрын

    idk what to write in my comment but please do make another video like this with indie titles i would love to find more queer games to buy that would allow me to enjoy my right to be capitalised on too as a member of the queer minority

  • @EisSocial

    @EisSocial

    8 күн бұрын

    I'm on it!!! 🏃‍♀️

  • @johndoe5331
    @johndoe53319 күн бұрын

    To Gay, or not to Gay, huh... YES! GAY!

  • @katiem.3109
    @katiem.31099 күн бұрын

    Dragon age also deserves credit for just how early they started doing representation. Dragon age origins was released in 2009, and Dragon Age:Inquisition (which is incredibly, blatantly queer) was released in 2014--one year before the supreme court legalized same sex marriage in the US. Also, Dragon age:inquisition featured a prominent trans male NPC who is portrayed in a very respectful way: and again, this was back in 2014! Also, the part about characters getting together if you don't romance them--that happens in Inquisition, too. If you don't romance Sera, she gets together with Dagna. If you don't romance Dorian or Iron bull, and you put them in your party together, Iron bull starts flirting with Dorian until Dorian finally takes him up on the offer and the two get together.

  • @RandomGuy-fx5ue
    @RandomGuy-fx5ue9 күн бұрын

    Fear and Hunger mentioned!!!!!!! I love those games

  • @thegoatofdoom
    @thegoatofdoom9 күн бұрын

    every time you said “gay button” i couldn’t help but think of the “hit the SLAY button” rupaul meme😭

  • @internetyameo
    @internetyameo9 күн бұрын

    Astarion my favorite pansexual (atleast ive been told hes canonically pansexual)

  • @cmmosher8035

    @cmmosher8035

    7 күн бұрын

    I am pretty sure all bg3 companions are bi/pan. A lot of the forgotten realms is supposed to be pretty nonchalant about sexuality in 5th ed.

  • @vitriolproxy
    @vitriolproxy9 күн бұрын

    FYI: the real gay button is “subscribe” nexts to E’s channel name

  • @doomguy676
    @doomguy6769 күн бұрын

    I dont really care about the gay button tbh. Maybe I'm not picky but I'll take what I can get. Stardew valley doesn't bother me.

  • @KayKayBayForever

    @KayKayBayForever

    9 күн бұрын

    Yeah, honestly, as a bisexual I love the “gay button”. It means I can create my own story with whatever kinds of relationships I want.

  • @undeniablySomeGuy

    @undeniablySomeGuy

    9 күн бұрын

    The issue of the gay button isn't about whether it feels good or not, it's just a matter representation and whether or not a piece of media has actually gay characters. If a game exclusively has "opt-in" queerness, that dilutes the representation of queerness because anything queer isn't an a part of the experience the player engages with as part of the intended experience. There's no other form of media that really does this other than games, because they dont really have the means to. More importantly, this isn't really a realistic portrayal of queerness. I get that players may like the gay button because it means that everyone wants to fuck them, and that's a nice fantasy to be able to engage in. However, not all real queer people completely conceal their queerness until asked (or asked to fuck). Some people do because they like the privilege that comes with being straight/cis passing in certain contexts, but many make it a forward facing part of their identity. Like if a trans person is publicly just going through second puberty, onlookers don't exactly opt into that. That's just part of their lives now. People who wish they could opt out of knowing that this person exists and is trans are usually just transphobic

  • @_korrikat_5252
    @_korrikat_52529 күн бұрын

    allow me to go on a bit of a rant here but, Persona 4's relationship with queerness is especially interesting to me SPOILERS BTW two characters, Kanji and Naoto, are VERY queercoded yet both their queerness gets kind of erased? Kanji's shadow (his true self) is the stereotypical gay man, hitting on Yosuke and Yuu, and just being very flamboyant. A lot of his palace (the reflection of his mind) is centered around how he might be gay bc he developed a crush on Naoto. (I will say he has a preference for men bc he would get bullied by women a lot for his hobbies (typically feminine ones), and bc of that hes a bit sexist) After the fight, Kanji accepts his shadow as a part of him and that's supposed to be that right? WRONG For some reason, this story about Kanji accepting the fact that he likes men turns it around and focuses more on the hating women part. He will continue to insist that he doesnt like men and this fact is further helped by his guy crush, Naoto, getting exposed for actually being a girl. What Naoto's gender is is a big talking point in the persona fandom, but what no one can deny is how transcoded she is. When we first meet her shadow, they are talking about a sex change surgery. Naotos big emotional moment with her shadow is about how she wants to be a man (and an adult) so badly. She hates being a woman because of how sexist the police department she works at is, but that still doesnt deny the very obvious transcoding going on with her. After she accepts her shadow, Naoto uses she/her pronouns for the rest of the game and continues to be a woman. Both of these characters are the main two characters whose insecurities/focus of their palace get made fun of the most too. Yosuke will constantly say homophobic remarks towards Kanji and Naoto has a running gag of "while she pretended to be a man, she had the biggest chest out of all the girls!!" HAHAHA SO FUNNY GUYS Yosuke also is a whole bag of internalized homophobia within himself (he literally had a cut romance-able social link) but THIS IS ALREADY TOO LONG 💀💀. i tried my best to get my points across, sorry if i didnt do a good job !!

  • @comyuse9103

    @comyuse9103

    5 күн бұрын

    the shadow isn't the true self, its just a repressed part of a character, and for the most part they are all parts of themselves the characters are better off overcoming. while kanji probably isn't a 1 on the kinsey scale, many of the things people point to could very well just be part of the sexism themes the story tackles at that point and i don't think he was ever any kind of romance option. imo that means most of those characteristics are more meaningful as a part of yosuke's story, rather than being an indication of what kanji has going on. they'd give the story and yosuke a chance to expose and confront his internalized homophobia and insecurities before/alongside the option for the main character to get into a relationship with him. god i wish they didn't take out yosuke's romance, so much of his character looks worse without it, and its not like it'd even be the first homosexual relationship in the series! as for naoto, she was always just meant to talk about the sexism in japanese society, but it is nice that other people can find something to relate to in her character.

  • @gelbbit6290
    @gelbbit62909 күн бұрын

    happy pride month 🏳️‍🌈❤️ thanks for video e!

  • @kotobushek
    @kotobushek6 күн бұрын

    I recently stumbled upon _literal gay button_ Saw cute-looking (and ranchy, sorry) farming game on steam, but first thing that popes up on starting os the screen that asks "do you want to see xyz-type of lgbt conten", with checkboxes for each😭 game in early acsess, and i sooo hope they get rid of it on the relise, maybe it's for statistics, so they know what options develop first, i'm so scared that's where queer gaming heading😭 and thank you E for amazing (as always) content!

  • @comyuse9103

    @comyuse9103

    5 күн бұрын

    sooooooooooo, you just not gonna name the game?

  • @mikuisbetterthenyourmom
    @mikuisbetterthenyourmom9 күн бұрын

    E DROP A NEW VID THAT TALKS ABOUT MORE LESBIANS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

  • @visperilda
    @visperilda9 күн бұрын

    remind me to stop watching E vidoes when im about to go to sleep... these keep my attention for so long it's suddenly three in the morning and i cant fall asleep anymore

  • @thefrizziestdrycat_05

    @thefrizziestdrycat_05

    19 сағат бұрын

    So real, I once watched every genshin gay video until 5 in the morning starting from 1 or 12

  • @VanillaThaiTea
    @VanillaThaiTea9 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the queer representation in Overwatch but at times it feels sooo performative, mostly because of how their fanbase acts IN GAME. It doesn't feel like they're concerned with protecting their queer fanbase within the game at all. BUT!!! of course that could have a multitude of other causes, and hopefully doesn't feel that way forever!

  • @doortheexplorer_
    @doortheexplorer_9 күн бұрын

    YESYESYESYESYES ON MY KNEES FOR THIS VIDEO

  • @user-od8jo5he2u
    @user-od8jo5he2u4 күн бұрын

    the way all background music was just genshin and star rail (the BS and Acheron's tango too)

  • @nethaira9374
    @nethaira93749 күн бұрын

    astarion jumpscare

  • @SAHSLSW
    @SAHSLSW9 күн бұрын

    Fear and Hunger memtion yippee!!! Its so interesting how such uncomfortable game can be at the same time such a comfort game I love it ❤

  • @materla4102
    @materla41029 күн бұрын

    I haven't played it but I've heard there's a great asexual representation in Outer worlds

  • @sunnydotjpeg
    @sunnydotjpeg9 күн бұрын

    shoutout to metal gear solid 2 for the first instance of the word "bisexual" in a video game also FUNGER FEATURE WOOOOO

  • @nanaminaokoshi7077
    @nanaminaokoshi70778 күн бұрын

    Yoooo! Fear and Hunger mentioned! I never played it, but it's lore is really interesting, and it's also really fascinating to think about!

  • @ErasMcras
    @ErasMcras9 күн бұрын

    and ppl were losing their shit when vivian was trans. bruh thats the only non celeste trans storyline ive ran into, why do they have to fling their own shit when its not only straight white ppl being repped in video games, oh and claire from cyberpunk.

  • @rafaela00002
    @rafaela000029 күн бұрын

    Love the mention to Verily's video ❤️ their whole channel is great 🥰

  • @robertwoodsiv6282
    @robertwoodsiv62824 күн бұрын

    The way I watched this literally the NIGHT AFTER I started Undertale and Stardew omg-😭(yes ik both has been out for a while now leave me alone

  • @daftspellcastor
    @daftspellcastor9 күн бұрын

    I came here looking for my boy Dorian and was NOT disappointed. Always love your content xx (Also ME1 taking out Kaiden’s gay button entirely, R.I.P💀)

  • @Feather55160
    @Feather551609 күн бұрын

    Absolutly loved this video!! As for inde game that feature some fruity people, you should totally check out Signalis! And for a mainstream series Persona had a cut gay romance in Persona 4 and has an optional gay romance in Persona 2. Fair warning like any Hoyo title approach Persona with caution especially Persona 4!

  • @ceejay5959
    @ceejay59599 күн бұрын

    fear and hunger reminded me of this rly sad gay zombie rpg maker game called 96. it was oddly heartwarming in a way but genuinely distressed me 😭😭

  • @dday097
    @dday097Күн бұрын

    Came for the content, stayed for the 1000% deserved EA slander. ToS does not give me the proper words to express my distain for EA

  • @ivetta8498
    @ivetta84986 күн бұрын

    I'm so glad you mentioned verilybitchie's video!! i watched it a long time ago, and i remember how that video is the only reason why i even knew that leah's ex changes gender to match the player 😭 it's such an odd part of stardew. if I could change anything, i would make her ex always be a woman

  • @rowan2372
    @rowan23729 күн бұрын

    You're literally the only youtuber rn who I flock to whenever you post a new video. It's just so well thought out, and good, and gay and yeah 😊 Thanks as always B)

  • @EisSocial

    @EisSocial

    8 күн бұрын

    AHH I'm honored :,) thank you!!! :D

  • @user-od8jo5he2u

    @user-od8jo5he2u

    4 күн бұрын

    same

  • @calladricosplays
    @calladricosplays7 күн бұрын

    Yes to the video on indie games! Source: friend of a lot of indie game developers

  • @michelleschepers4809
    @michelleschepers48096 күн бұрын

    i love your video structures so much i fr usw them as inspo for my essasy

  • @chaichry.6308
    @chaichry.63089 күн бұрын

    OMGOMGOMMGOM BALDURS GATE APEARENCEIN ON OF UR VIDEOS I FEEL BLESED THANK U E, AND OTHER VIDEOGAMES IRECCOMENDD IN THE WEIRD GOGLE FORM AHHH IM SOBING

  • @WaluigiInSmash
    @WaluigiInSmash9 күн бұрын

    WAS NOT EXPECTING VERILYBITCHIE MENTION (also love the bangs and ears ◉ω◉ )

  • @SHGogo-df5jr
    @SHGogo-df5jr9 күн бұрын

    Lol SDV being crack is so true. I'm literally planning on playing it later x3

  • @EnetWork-2864
    @EnetWork-28649 күн бұрын

    loved this video. I’m a new subscriber and i’m definitely staying for more of this content. also loved the chongyun x xingqui mention in the genshin queer coding vid 😋

  • @debyvillareal4404
    @debyvillareal44049 күн бұрын

    I love every single video that i see from you ❤, you should talk more about baldurs I think the community need more creators like you , I didn’t know the other games that you mentioned besides Genshin, but they look like something I should play 😂 Xoxo

  • @pigking7879
    @pigking78799 күн бұрын

    Dragon Age mentioned after the many years scarcity of its contents? HUZZAAAAHHH

  • @MegaCyber17
    @MegaCyber179 күн бұрын

    lovely video as always, E!!

  • @jackzinato1064
    @jackzinato10644 күн бұрын

    Bros in an AFK Journey Advertisement 💀(no offense tho, just surprised me)

  • @Blulcon
    @Blulcon8 күн бұрын

    Its been so long since I saw an E video. and as always its a banger

  • @Kerfuffledinklesmith
    @Kerfuffledinklesmith8 күн бұрын

    FEAR AND HUNGER MENTION I'M SCREAMING I LOVE THOSE GAMES

  • @basrunhaar3553
    @basrunhaar35539 күн бұрын

    34:09 I was legit like "oooh, tf you talking about"

  • @kickflipindi
    @kickflipindi9 күн бұрын

    I would watch the indie game video, this was super interesting

  • @JimsJamminn
    @JimsJamminn9 күн бұрын

    Really enjoyed the video! It was fun to see all these queer games in one place and to be talked about. I would live to see one on indy games. Personal fav is ceccette beast with some cool rep and you can make your character nonbinary. Also want to mention guilty gear strive with a lot of queer rep for a japanese game. Fighting games actually have a really deep history of queer representation both positive and negative

  • @lexutterstrom1615
    @lexutterstrom16158 күн бұрын

    Omg i was not expecting Fear and hunger here! It's such a great title and i love the casual queerness. Cahara is our Bi king. I love Marina and Samarie, our trans girlboss and her pathetic, cringe fail simp. I love how you can't turn off the queerness. Sure there is some "gay buttoning" with the marriage in funger 1, but thats like?? the acceptable kind imo. Is funger for everyone? no. But it sure as hell is for a subset of us freaky queers 🫡

  • @galaxa13
    @galaxa134 күн бұрын

    As a big Dragon Age fan I just want to gush about more gay things in it that you didn't cover. You mention how, in Origins, Zevran is quite open about his bisexuality, but the other bisexual companion (Leliana) takes it one step further in that you actually meet her ex-girlfriend and talk to her and about their relationship so you have evidence in front of your face that she smooches girls beyond dialogue mentioning it. In 2 while most of the companions are bisexual (and some argue that they suffer from the Gay Button because of that [Looking at you, Anders, who only talks about his ex-boyfriend WHO YOU LITERALLY JUST MET as his boyfriend if you play as a dude, and also how in his first appearance in Origins as DLC he only ever flirts with women]) the only companion who is 100% straight is also a DLC companion, so you have to pay more to get someone who won't be gay. You pointed out how in the upcoming Veilguard game if you don't romance a companion they might initiate romances with other people and that already happened in Inquisition! If you don't romance either Dorian (gay) or Iron Bull (pan) they could end up in a relationship together and if you don't romance Sera (gay) she will end up with the NPC Dagna (sexuality unclear, but def not straight). Also in Origins if you play as a human noble you can initiate gay sex with an NPC before your first combat encounter.

  • @kyranrex4472
    @kyranrex44727 күн бұрын

    Loved this video sm omg, all your content is so captivating ‼🔥🗣 Would you ever consider talking about the Life Is Strange games? Played the first one like 4 years ago and it's still like my favorite thing ever, I would love to hear what you have to say about the queer representation in it!

  • @leiblack2944
    @leiblack29448 күн бұрын

    I was like "didn't I watch this like 2 years ago?" But no, it was just a video with a similar Titel haha. Really loved the deep dive ❤

  • @SilesSlumberParty
    @SilesSlumberParty7 күн бұрын

    my slumber party does include summoning demons lol

  • @michielbrand4127
    @michielbrand41279 күн бұрын

    SLAY I love this vid! ❤

  • @ErasMcras
    @ErasMcras9 күн бұрын

    the way they are going with veilguard somewhat reminds me of pillars of eternity, there are queer options but they will hook up with someone else if you dont romance one of them

  • @bbysiea
    @bbysiea9 күн бұрын

    one of my comfort games is slime rancher, i've loved it since it first came out and i still do to this day! it follows the main character beatrix leubeau and her journey throughout the far far range. she has a love interest back on earth called casey, and their gender is never specified, which for a game from 2016 is pretty dang good! edit: i forgot, but there's also an NPC character named mochi miles and she is HEAVILY implied to (at least, from my perspective) have a crush on beatrix.

  • @kmon8133
    @kmon81337 күн бұрын

    Actually gonna link this to people on my page. I'm way too tired to do customized research and this video is both informative and entertaining enough to possibly reach any backwards fucked person that would want to argue with me about gaming

  • @tomascampoy9245
    @tomascampoy92457 күн бұрын

    I will watch and like every single video of yours that has GAY in it PERIOD! (also all the videos you do regardless of the queerness tbh)

  • @sweetpixiesmile
    @sweetpixiesmileКүн бұрын

    You should look up Fear Effect and Fear Effect 2. The first game is awesome for Chinese expats' children who were never taught their cultural and mythological heritage (like me) and the main female character Hana is roped into a shady cyberpunk contract because of her girlfriend needing medicine that only the megacorp owns. The second instalment isn't as well written, but you get to play as Hana and her girlfriend Rain kicking ass alongside the other playable characters from the first game, Royce and Jakob. This is PS1 era.

  • @fallenyetstillhere
    @fallenyetstillhere8 күн бұрын

    Hell yeah E, im all for you doing an indie video games take on LGBTQIA+. You once again knocked it out of the park with this!🥳 Happy Pride month.

  • @MeowVelous_Wyatt
    @MeowVelous_Wyatt9 күн бұрын

    “Hoyoverse games!” Ahh shi- here we go again😂 (Love our Hoyo gay-mes)

  • @andreasiccardo8063
    @andreasiccardo80636 күн бұрын

    I've always found strange that in Mass Effect you can have romance with aliens, but not with the one who looks similar to your gender. You are in a relationship with a lezard man but it's straight because he looks male

  • @ruancastro91
    @ruancastro919 күн бұрын

    god damn it E, with that dress you almost made me forget that im gay

  • @adnankhalid8457
    @adnankhalid84579 күн бұрын

    I'm surprised you haven't touched Honkai Impact third that's like the most gay mihoyo game in my eyes so you should probably give it it's own deep dive . By the way I've heard there was a confirmed lesbian kiss in one of the comics .

  • @ClubsDeuce5150
    @ClubsDeuce51509 күн бұрын

    Some rep that avoids thr gay button that I didn't see coming but was very pleased with was Loid and Albrecht in Warframe. Just watch a video if you wanna look into it though, it would take literal days to get to that point on a new account.

  • @AwesomelyTsundere
    @AwesomelyTsundere9 күн бұрын

    Both surprised and not surprised to not see a mention of the fire emblem series in this. Their relationships do have a lot of issues though so I can see why it wasn’t added, but I do recommend looking into the history of the series. It’s an interesting topic for me at least 😅

  • @AwesomelyTsundere

    @AwesomelyTsundere

    9 күн бұрын

    Also this is not meant to be pressuring for a vid about this just something I thought you might find interesting.

  • @kjelfalconer

    @kjelfalconer

    9 күн бұрын

    Ike having two hands is a hill I will die on, and one is for an emo and the other a catboy

  • @uberculex

    @uberculex

    9 күн бұрын

    @@kjelfalconer I was going to leave a thoughtful comment about Ike and his representation in a time where that basically didn't happen in Nintendo games and how it achieved this in really subtle ways but your comment is better.

  • @multifandomCass
    @multifandomCass9 күн бұрын

    Okay love the video one game that i think you should talk about is boyfriend dungeon. You can play as a she/her, they/them, or he/him (literally they ask for the pronouns i thought that was cool and you can change them at any time) and there are a variety of weapons (they are people as well) to woo as you fight through dungeons. There are men, women, and enbies. If you do another video talking about queer games i think it would be cool if you talked about that one. Just a suggestion of course but seeing this video pop up reminded me and was hoping you talked about it but since i dont see it much in general (compared to some of the others you talked about at least) i knew there was a possibility that it wouldn't. Amazing video and cant wait for you yo talk about more queer games

  • @chakravant
    @chakravantКүн бұрын

    As for ME -- there is one bi character in ME2 and actual gay characters show as late as in final ME3 (I simply ignore the existence of Androfailure). Liara is specific, because, as you mentioned, she is a member of mono-gendered species, which looks like human female (but, as some in-game lines suggest, they are in fact super-powerful psionic beings who look attractive to any species because of... peculiarities of their reproductive rituals). So, while inter-species romance is a staple of ME series, gay romance is actually only in a final instalment. And because aliens can be very alien in the game, but the romanceable ones are, unsurprisingly, binary-gendered, you can only romance an alien of opposite gender, or Asari (who are mono-gendered).

  • @ayakohanasa
    @ayakohanasa9 күн бұрын

    I'd love a indie focused video on this! Do you want recommendations? If yeah, I'd recommend Oathbreaker by LarkyLabs, the first and second one, it's a dark fantasy visual novel with romance, plenty of the charactars are queer and there is even an asexual romance option (which I love, but sadly don't see often)

  • @SasaLunafey
    @SasaLunafey7 күн бұрын

    Fear and hunger stans rise uppp!

  • @catdownthestreet
    @catdownthestreet9 күн бұрын

    22:12 me too. every time. i love him lol

  • @El-zq4le
    @El-zq4le6 күн бұрын

    a game with a bit of queer representation is Fire Emblem Fates and I know it's not a lot, but there is one male character you can romance even as the male MC, which is Nile. It's indeed a "gay button" type of situation, you will not notice it if you do not look up for it, but I dunno, I just remember that when I was younger that was incredible to me to have that option

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