TM Krishna: Manodharma III - Part 1

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Continuing with the ever popular Manodharma series, Krishna goes back to the basics in this Lec-Dem. The event was held in Kolkata as part of the FEA-curated "The Essential TM Krishna" tour in collaboration with Experimenter, Kolkata.
In the first video of this all-new series, Krishna talks about Composition, its structure and spirit, the different approaches to music in the Carnatic and Hindustani traditions, and the role of percussion in a performance.
Opening and closing stills courtesy Ram Keshav.

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  • @chandrikamohan327
    @chandrikamohan3274 жыл бұрын

    He is a genius so unfortunate that people refuse to accept his ideas one must respect him for his dynamic approach towards classic al music

  • @oceaneiika
    @oceaneiika2 жыл бұрын

    SOUTH of INDIA has ALWAYS been a (underrated- underplayed) TREASURE TROVE Of these Hidden “RARE GEMS”!!TMK just PROVES it on Our face ‼️‼️ HUGE RESPECT TMK Acharaya 🙌🏼😌♥️🙏🏼

  • @sujayanarula3913
    @sujayanarula39134 жыл бұрын

    Well explained Masterji 😊 when structures are well understood, variations can be created as one's own unique impression. As a novice to fit into a structure is more challenging because with the understanding of how sounds in the form of swaras work gives you the liberty to actually not want to follow the structure rather use the sound to create different musical expressions, this is my take on it as a enthusiast, thank you so much for your informative videos with examples👏🏼🙏🏽😊

  • @RatheeshRamachandranGTO
    @RatheeshRamachandranGTO4 жыл бұрын

    This is getting better and better...we all are getting better in understanding. Thanks a lot for all the efforts from the musicians and organizers.

  • @radhasrisailam2869
    @radhasrisailam28694 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful Knowledge & it will spread to listeners too.. Great if T.M.K. Sir... saved part -1 to listen Again & Again...waiting to have part too .. as early as possible. Thanks for bringing this part of Manodharma... Best Regards. Veena. Vidhushi . Radhasrisailam.

  • @swathivenugopalan9895
    @swathivenugopalan98954 жыл бұрын

    Some people want to remain the Carnatic music unexplained and keep it 'sacred'. They want their 'enjoyment' to be reserved for some class of society. The frustration of losing that class nature of Carnatic music can be seen here. Further, He is stating how creativity in Carnatic music works dear 'Carnatic music lovers'.

  • @sumaravindranath2744

    @sumaravindranath2744

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent analysis

  • @ramanathansubbarathnam6398
    @ramanathansubbarathnam63983 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful speech on Manodharma. His oratorial capacity is as best as his music. A real genius. Arun prakash playing on mridangam when Krishna sings Ramanannubrovara in the lower octave is so rhythemic and pleasing to hear. A nice team on the whole

  • @Bharathsalem
    @Bharathsalem4 жыл бұрын

    Raama Nannu brovara😍😍😍 my most favorite Kruthi.. I learnt from my Guru OST mama 😍

  • @madhuritubahaar4thMarch1996
    @madhuritubahaar4thMarch19964 жыл бұрын

    😀😀😀😀😀😀😀I am very happy now...I was eagerly waiting for this ...... Was So Fortunate To Experience This Wonderful Lec-Dem Live ...Being There.....😊😊😊😊😊 04:47-09:07 True....

  • @kb3dow

    @kb3dow

    4 жыл бұрын

    I kinda expected you to say you were there - and lo and behold you did! Lucky you! I wish I could see one of his performances in person.

  • @dhakshan

    @dhakshan

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was searching you in the comments. Lol

  • @madhuritubahaar4thMarch1996

    @madhuritubahaar4thMarch1996

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dhakshan 😂

  • @vishnushanbhogue7882

    @vishnushanbhogue7882

    4 жыл бұрын

    What evr his politics he is a GRT artist of high caliber. His Ragam Tanam pallavi is always wonderful just like Pt. Ajay Chakrabortys I feel Manodarma is just like GHARAANA

  • @madhuritubahaar4thMarch1996

    @madhuritubahaar4thMarch1996

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vishnushanbhogue7882 He Is Incomparable....

  • @santoshrrrr
    @santoshrrrr4 жыл бұрын

    I think it is essential even for artist to know what manodarma or creative freedom is in their respective art. But ultimately it ends up being a question of choosing a point between left and right for a personal representation of what the art is to them. And of course the point might evolve along time. For instance TMK in his early career would have been a perfect example of far right person with his manodarma having a bit of "less freedom" (nonetheless aesthetically amazing) and has evolved into more left. These kind of metamorphosis, I think, oftentimes involve more self contemplation than musical maturity (be it moving from left to right or right to left). Its amazing to be in an era where you have an example of these kind of evolution. This is in contrast to say the Baby boomers or generation X where there where dominated by artists of far right and thus the larger listening crowd is aesthetically accustomed to a more structured music. Of course by the looks of it, it seems like Ariyakudi had probably moved across the spectrum too by various ideas of his own. But it would be interesting to see TMK's views on an extreme far left "carnatic" artists (I don't know of any yet). PS: ignore the semantics and spellings !

  • @AnoopKashyap

    @AnoopKashyap

    4 жыл бұрын

    If by 'left' you mean liberal interpretation of the boundaries of the art and not political ideology, then Balamuralikrishna would be one example.

  • @dhakshan

    @dhakshan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Woah. I've never seen someone using left and right in Carnatic music. Awesome. I think we need both rightists and leftists.

  • @sunny005ism
    @sunny005ism4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you... Mahakavi Bharathi will be proud of you

  • @jayantijagan2580
    @jayantijagan25804 жыл бұрын

    🙏. மிகவும் அருமை. மீண்டும் உங்க programme கேட்கும் போது ரொம்ப சந்தோஷம். நிறைய விஷயங்களைப் பகிர்வும். தயவு செய்து தமிழில் விளக்கம் குடுத்தால் எல்லோருக்கும் புரியும். இது என்னுடைய பணிவான வேண்டுகோள். 🙏

  • @navneethsundaresan6970
    @navneethsundaresan69704 жыл бұрын

    Eagerly waiting for other parts

  • @VijayaRangaLR
    @VijayaRangaLR4 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic explanation pandith ji .saashtaanga namaskaara sir ji 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @tzemoiambika
    @tzemoiambika2 жыл бұрын

    Completely in awe of you Sir

  • @ramsubramaniank.sathyanath8322
    @ramsubramaniank.sathyanath83224 жыл бұрын

    TMK indeed is special and genius. The real beauty is his analytical mind and expression. Amazing. We are all lucky to listen to this great human being and artist

  • @comm2005
    @comm20054 жыл бұрын

    Swami Thyagaraja is alive because of his compositions based on Bhakti. We keep it alive because Swami Thyagaraja inspires us

  • @nandhinikeerthi2822

    @nandhinikeerthi2822

    4 жыл бұрын

    True sir

  • @m4musicclassical923
    @m4musicclassical9234 жыл бұрын

    thanks sir......

  • @t.t.srinivasan7435
    @t.t.srinivasan74354 жыл бұрын

    100% true. 💐

  • @navneethsundaresan6970
    @navneethsundaresan69704 жыл бұрын

    When are you going to upload the other parts of this lec dem

  • @FirstEditionArtsChannel

    @FirstEditionArtsChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    part 2 will be uploaded later tonight

  • @RK-nq3fj
    @RK-nq3fj Жыл бұрын

    Some of these north/south Indian differences in aesthetics are valid ones that can be borrowed from each other. They are not all rubbish as TMK says. For example: Hindustani music explores the slower, less-information-loaded melody with sufficient silences. We know several musicians, TMK included, that love that kind of aesthetic. Similarly North Indian Gharanas differ in how much they stick to the beats vs goof around them and come to Sam. TMK talks about composition as a possibility that people create variations on. However, there is a degree to which people take freedoms in changing the composition. HM folks take the most freedom, but Carnatic musicians differ greatly on how much to stick to their Guru's version vs take liberties. Same with taking liberties on the taal - TMK himself takes considerable liberties on taal compared to say his Guru when singing a composition. Point being: digging deeper into the underlying aesthetics between the two traditions might give possibilities of borrowing aesthetics in a subtle way.

  • @iagreewithyou4328

    @iagreewithyou4328

    7 ай бұрын

    Speed is relative, atleast in Carnatic, what we call "kāla" is. You can be as slow as you want in Carnatic. I honestly never understood this argument. It seems rather rudimentary.

  • @jayantijagan2580
    @jayantijagan25804 жыл бұрын

    எங்கம்மா உங்க ஞானத்தைப் பற்றி புகழ்ந்துண்டே இருப்பா.

  • @nishtalasaradyamini853
    @nishtalasaradyamini8534 жыл бұрын

    It is not seemalo..It is cheemalo..That means the almighty is present even in a ant ..Hope our musicians know and understand what they sing

  • @dhakshan

    @dhakshan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Most musicians don't. Because, they feel the music is more important. But, you can still find them being all correct atleast in their mother tongue

  • @madhuritubahaar4thMarch1996

    @madhuritubahaar4thMarch1996

    4 жыл бұрын

    I Think The Problem Happens for the letter 'ச'....because It can be pronounced as Sa, Sha, Cha, Ja...Whenever A Sanskrit Or Telugu or any Non-Tamil Composition Is Written In Pure Tamil Script, this kind of problems happen......always happen.....

  • @comm2005

    @comm2005

    4 жыл бұрын

    Madhuritu Chakraborty. Not necessarily. Carnatic music is about Bhakti and the basis is lyrics. Music is secondary. So a musician is supposed to learn the language, understand what is being said. Then their musical skill will dither embellish the lyric

  • @dhakshan

    @dhakshan

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@comm2005 though this comment is not for me, I want to reply. The moment you say Carnatic 'music', music gains more importance(atleast that is what most people think). Only a few tend to think about the importance of the music and lyrics. Maybe TMK learnt this song when he was younger and this is how it was taught to him. Madhuritu Chakraborty's comment is acceptable only because I have faced the problem many times(because I have a practice of writing songs in Tamil only. For me, English seems weird)

  • @comm2005

    @comm2005

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aravindhakshan Suresh agreed but as you mature you should be curious to understand what the composer is saying.

  • @padmakrishnan9
    @padmakrishnan9 Жыл бұрын

    3:07 3:42

  • @Sdmmusic

    @Sdmmusic

    11 ай бұрын

    😍

  • @suyasrivastv
    @suyasrivastv4 жыл бұрын

    great singer intellectual person

  • @Subranna1
    @Subranna14 жыл бұрын

    Impromptu musician! Keep disrupting TMK. Your side of argument is highly valuable to keep going on the Indian classical music!

  • @asrsaichem
    @asrsaichem2 жыл бұрын

    it is not " Prema meera nelakuchunde" insted it should be " Prema meera Melaguchunde". ( melaguchunde means - to roam about, to wander-in this keerthana it exactly means residing) One moving about (melagucuNDE) very (mIra) lovingly (prEma) in the ants (cImalO) as also in the Trinity - brahmA (brahmalO), Siva and vishNu (kESava) - and others. There is no word " NELAGA or NELAGI" in telugu. Yes word "VELUGU" is there which is a noun (not verb) which mens - light, brightness, shining, lustre, splendor etc., Please hear once again your guruji Shambamgudi garu : kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2aWuMeNZqrfhJs.html also Nithya Sri : kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIaArq9vm8nFdLg.html by Malladi brothers : kzread.info/dash/bejne/gZN_ls1sgc-rn6Q.html by Sudha rangunathan : kzread.info/dash/bejne/o311yrudlrSfn8Y.html

  • @maitri74

    @maitri74

    2 жыл бұрын

    First correct your selves. His Guru called himself as semmangudi not as you have spelled. Pleas learn to be humble.

  • @comm2005
    @comm20054 жыл бұрын

    Always messes up the lyrics. It is Premato lokaabhiraama. And it is not seemalo it is cheemalo (in an ant). And so many lyrical mistakes. His only focus is on music

  • @aravindsudarshan2705

    @aravindsudarshan2705

    4 жыл бұрын

    comm2005 the lyrics of the pallavi is Rama Nannu brovara vemako lokaabhi. Not premato lokaabhi

  • @subbaraomeduri

    @subbaraomeduri

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aravindsudarshan2705 "vemako" does not have any meaning in Telugu. Fairly certain It is "Prema Tho" (meaning, with love) as pointed by comm2005. Unfortunately, the mistake is repeated by even seasoned musicians. Sad!

  • @comm2005

    @comm2005

    4 жыл бұрын

    Subbarao Meduri correction. Vemako or Emako means why. I found that this word is still in use in Chittoor district. So Swami Thyagaraja is asking why

  • @mbsr3857

    @mbsr3857

    3 жыл бұрын

    విమర్శ కాదు కానీ, ఏదో నాకు తెలిసింది చెప్పాలనిపించింది! నిజానికి ఆ పదం ఒకటి కాదు.. రెండు పదాలు. సంధి జరుగుతున్నది అక్కడ. రావు+ఏమకో = రావేమకో (ఉకార సంధి: ఉత్తునకచ్చు పరంబగునప్పుడు సంధి నిత్యము) కాబట్టి ఆ పల్లవి, రామ నన్నుఁ బ్రోవ రావేమకో.. ఇక, ఏమకో అన్న పదానికి అర్థం ఏలనో, ఎందుకో, ఎందువల్లనో.. ఉదాహరణకు అన్నమాచార్యుల వారి సంకీర్తన "ఏమకో చిగురుటధరమున ఎడనెడ కస్తూరి..." (పాఠాంతరమున ఏమొకో అని కూడా కలదు, ఐనా రెండింటి అర్థం ఒకటే..)🙏

  • @rameshpvn77
    @rameshpvn774 жыл бұрын

    I urge people here to google about him and if you really love Carnatic Music - boycott all the musicians of his like who pollute Carnatic music. These guys will do anything for money or cheap publicity.

  • @vedapushpa9803

    @vedapushpa9803

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes one could agree with the objection that some words of the sahitya are wrongly represented by Vidwan T M Krishna. ...but the so corrected word like.. cheemalo ..seems to be an aberration of Shiva lo....Brahmanoo. But the fact remains that. Sri TMKRISHNA is making an earnest effort to bring out the musical merits of CARNATIC and the Hindustani systems of Indian Classical music. WHY OBJECT TO THAT??

  • @kkbhatta

    @kkbhatta

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's cheap. Music is for everyone and TMK is an excellent musician.

  • @rameshpvn77

    @rameshpvn77

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kkbhatta Looks like you haven't read the comments this rogue made on Hinduism and Hindus. Carnatic music developed as a way to serve Bhagawan through music and rogues like this made a great disservice to that tradition. It does not matter what kind of talents he has. He is a rogue is my opinion and it will not change.

  • @YashRakeshGawade

    @YashRakeshGawade

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@rameshpvn77 You have an unchangeable opinion of him without even understanding what he said. That's indeed a pity.

  • @rameshpvn77

    @rameshpvn77

    Ай бұрын

    @@YashRakeshGawadefeeling is mutual bro - your comments apply more to you. 10 yrs back I was a fan and changed my stance once I came to know what this rogue is. It’s a pity you don’t see it.

  • @rameshpvn77
    @rameshpvn774 жыл бұрын

    Accidentally ran into this video - People like these should be boycotted. Anyone who loves Carnatic Music - should boycott ppl like this - does not matter how good they are. Ravana was a great ShivBhakth - but still he is a Raakshas - same holds true for TMK.

  • @rkrishna1965

    @rkrishna1965

    4 жыл бұрын

    What is the reason Shri Ramesh? Is it because of his music or his views on other things?

  • @rameshpvn77

    @rameshpvn77

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rkrishna1965 His views and the pollution he brings into Carnatic music because of his views. A brilliant scientist can go rogue and support terrorists - do we see his brilliance or the part he supports terrorists - same goes to him. I really admired him sometime back -I was deeply hurt when I heard his views - I threw the CDs I had in trash.

  • @dhakshan

    @dhakshan

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rameshpvn77 I still think that many people who follow his music doesn't care about his political views(or atleast that's what should be done). The fact that Ravana was a rakshasha doesn't keep him away from being a great veena and music exponent

  • @rameshpvn77

    @rameshpvn77

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dhakshan I disagree sir. I am not sure if you would really appreciate his music alone - if he had slapped or did something bad to you or your family. This is not just about supporting a different political party. People like him have gone beyond the line - its not a mere political view. Anyone who loves Indian Culture should stand up against this. No personal offense meant - but your thinking is the exact thing people in Bollywood follow while inviting Pakistani Singers to work in our films - make money in India and go and talk against India. And we seem to have no shame and self respect supporting movies like that. Would people be so kind if they or their family member is insulted ? Aren't country and culture a much bigger thing than an individual insult ? These are things we should not compromise on in my opinion - unfortunately just like here - we are divided and so people continue to abuse us and our culture and we have no shame and self respect. Please don't see this as directed towards you in person - the comment is against the general mindset of all those who give a similar reason.I signoff.

  • @yanushbatra7807

    @yanushbatra7807

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rameshpvn77it's disappointing to see people of our own country boycotting an exponent of an art form that is not only beautiful but also sacred to our motherland. Ravana's works on astrology are still held in high regard even today, astrologists in ancient India didn't boycott him because he abducted devi Sita.

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