Another great TK Friday Dave!! So useful in so many ways. The procedure adds another dimension to the use of Orton; building nicely on Sean's tutorial. I have tried it and love the results.... Keep 'um coming....

Great video, as usual. What a terrific way to sharpen without getting halos. I love the TK8 panel and since I found your KZread channel I'm learning so much more about it. I have Sean's training video too which is so helpful but you are showing me some great uses of the features of the TK8 panel. Thank you and looking forward to next Friday.

Excellent. I watch Sean’s tutorial followed by yours. Between the two of you, I think I understand enough to try it my self. Most likely I will watch parts of both tutorials to refresh the steps I missed the first time. Thanks.

very bright ideas and solutions to halos

Wow -- what an elegant way of managing sharpening and the dreaded halos. Such a clear, concise explanation. Thank you VERY much!

Thanks for this video Dave. I have often passed on using the Orton Effect due to the loss of sharpness and this is a good way to maintain sharpness and still add glow to the image. I have learned a lot of practical uses for the TK8 plugin from your tutorials.

Hi Dave: Another great video! Thanks for creating and sharing this technique. I never really understood when to use the Edit Mask but that has now changed. Cheers, Keith

Thank you very much Dave, Excellent tutorial, fantastic TK8 Friday really appreciate it

Excellent job Dave, having printable instructions also helps when you aren't using the technique frequently. Keep it up!

Thanks again Dave, another great tutorial. Loved your notes saved me a lot ot work (keep that going when possible)

Now I know how to use the Edge Mask tool! All our images receive some kind of pre-print sharpening. Sometimes the hyperfocal distance was not guessed properly and portions of our pet photos lost fur definition. We sharpen in Topaz Sharpen Ai but there are always halos. This TK8 tool is exactly what we need. Thanx Dave.

Good stuff, thanks Dave!

Sehr interessant und lehrreich, danke ein super Video.

Great tutorial. Thanks Dave

Thanks Dave, a great tutorial! The TK Panels are definitely the Swiss Army Knife of tools. I use Topaz Sharpen AI for sharpening so not sure how much I would use the first technique. But nice to know if I ever have halos in my photos. Will definitely try with the Orton effect.

Thanks Dave! 💗

I like that idea of Orton Effect with the edge masking for landscape. I do not use Orton because of that blur but this could be the winner! Thanks for great idea!

I really like the small list of instruction to keep near for reference. It is a very good idea. thanks

Nice tutorial, thanks a lot!!!!!

Your tutorials are always great! I became a great fan! Best regards from Rio de Janeiro/Brazil.

Another great tutorial Dave, thanks mate.

@safatman

2 жыл бұрын

Dave, when you use this method, do you HAVE to use it at the beginning of the workflow or can you use later on? Is it OK to use with Smart Filters?

SUPER!

Thank you, Dave. Haloes be gone. This was truly a tutorial (Orton Effect) and a half.

thank you so much

Thanks Dave. I always look forward to TK Friday. I tend to generally use Topaz Sharpen AI for my sharpening. The TK8 method will allow me to stay within PS in order to do my sharpening unless I have focus issues, then I can use Topaz Sharpen AI. I will give this a try. Thank you once again.

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome Sam. Sharpen Ai also does a good job with basic sharpening also. For those who don’t use it, this method will work well. Sean Bradshaw points out in his video in the TK8 Video guide, that if you do clarity adjustments with the high pass filter and you get halos this technique can help you get rid of them. Basically you can apply this technique to any layer that has induced halos into your image.

👍👍 thank you so much

Fantastic Dave! I have Tony's videos and will check out this technique there. I'm sorry I discovered Tony's software and videos way before coming here to your channel. Having said that, I'm so glad I discovered your channel and when I saw the TK8 symbol it sparked my interest, and immediately subscribed. The first thing I do every Friday now when I open KZread is to check out TK Fridays. I do have a question though. Remember the last videos you made on the masking for success series? There was a portion in the first video of that series where you clicked the My Channels button and a mysterious channel appeared, and you mentioned that you were going to explain how to use it. I was wondering if that's in the works.

First of all, I really enjoy your videos! I don't know if you do any astrophotography but was wondering if the Edge Mask would be useful for blending sky shots and brighter foreground shots? Might help with the areas along the horizon, around hills, trees etc..

Fantastic video. Here is my question. If you use the Edge Mask with something like Topaz Sharpen AI, will you then just experiment with the settings?

Hi Dave, this is a great technique. Would the halo mask work after sharpening in other sharpening software eg Topaz AI Sharpen. Feargal

Hi Dave, I have been working with TK8 since it came out. It has been fabulous, the best TK ever. And your videos have only expanded its potential for me. Recently, I’ve been revisiting sky replacement since PS has new features to make it easier and TK8 even more so. I came to this video because I’ve found halo and fringe removal can be a major challenge. I’ve been reviewing lots of on line material about this. So, I wondered if edge masks might be useful. I don’t think so, but I could be wrong. Assuming I’m not incorrect and that edge masks won’t help halos and fringing, would you be interested in tackling an edit of a bare tree against a monochromatic sky using PS and TK8 for sky replacement that eliminates or at least minimizes fringes and halos? I suspect there are TK8 tools that could help with this process, but I haven’t put together a workflow that solves it. And, actually, I think there are probably different workflows that have to be used in different situations. Thank you, Mark R

I love Dave's tutorial very much. Watch his video if you want to be an advanced user and want fully utilize it

Hi Dave, thanks for your videos...would using Darken instead of Normal for brush blending help?

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

Жыл бұрын

Not really Antonio. I tested it and it is the same.

Dave, this is fascinating for those of us who have experienced unwanted halos! Two questions: (1) what if I Open as a Smart Object in Photoshop? and (2) what if I only want to work on part of an image, or exclude (or have a lesser impact on) a distant background for better depth? Thanks for including the steps here, too. Very interesting!

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

I am thinking you could mask the mask to control different parts of the image differently. The other thing you could do is paint the mask on as a selection by Clicking (The Icon with the White Brush and the Black Mask) as the output method.

ありがとうございます！

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Super Thanks

Wow.. I had an eagle pic that was serious crop (thing was far away) and when I used a sky replacement it had a white halo on the leading edge of the wings. Using your techniques fixed it as long as I fixed the bird before replacing the sky. Interestingly, it didn't work unless I used the unsharp mask as well. Just masking the edge and inverting didn't do the trick. Thanks.

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

That’s good to hear Alan.

I like this technique for sharpening! How does it compare with Topaz Sharpen AI? Any idea if you could use the TK8 Edge masks on the Topaz Sharpen AI layer?

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

Sharpen Ai is my favorite. If you are experiencing halos with Sharpen Ai this technique can help.

Excellent, thank you! But does the sky and clouds will get also sharp with this procedure?

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

If the clouds are effected and you don’t want them to be they can be Masked out. You can put that adjustment in a group and Mask the Mask. That is one solution but there are other ways to do it.

I enjoyed this tutorial. At the moment I am using Denoise AI with/or not Sharpen AI or the Nik 5 sharpener. At the beginning of my Photoshop work (I started 1993) I alway used the unsharp mask funktion in Photoshop. With this tutorial I see that I can give this photoshop unmask filter a try again with TK8. What do you think?

@robertolazary2807

Жыл бұрын

Would be more than very nice if you could post a promo what works!

Hello Dave, wonderful tutorial. Using a edge mask to remove halo is a useful method. I have watched the tutorial several times, but I still don't understand how to apply this method to other halo removal that are not caused by unshapen mask. Please make a tutorial on that. Thank you.

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and yes I will.

Very cool. Definitely will try it. I was wondering how this compares with Sharpen AI. I don’t seem much halos with that. Could this be used in conjunction with Sharpen AI? Thanks

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Sharpen Ai is really for images with focus problems. For instance, images that are out of focus because your camera lens was mis-adjusted or you used to slow of a shutter speed and lost focus due to camera movement. It uses Ai to correct these types of issues. It works really well for basic sharpening also. I point this method out because not everyone uses Sharpen Ai. There are different ways, other than the way I showed in this tutorial to sharpen images in Photoshop. If you use other methods and you get halos this technique will help in reducing them. It is really great because it targets the edges.

@icogicog8287

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly Dave thanks again. Keep up the excellent work.

Great tutorial as alaways Dave , Having recently purchased TK9 I am trying to soak up as much info as possible on techniques as there is ibviously some overlap with TK8 . In your TK9 edit videos I dont recall you using this or any other specific sharpening technique ? does the clarity slider in TK9 do the sharpening or would you still recommend this process ?

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

6 ай бұрын

I would still recommend this process and these features are still in TK9. I like to use clarity for bringing out details but overall image sharpening still needs to be used for social media and also for printing images. I usually do some pre and post sharpening.

Great Tutorial mate, thank you. Could all these steps be made into an action in photoshop?

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Geoff. At this time Photoshop can’t record the clicks that are made in plug-Ins into PS actions. This is something they may be changing in the future.

@geoff270172

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly thank you so much for the reply, hopefully one day they can but for now keep up the great work and keeping me so inspired to shoot more photos to edit 🙏🙏🙏

Nice, but I was really surprised with how much noise it introduced.

Hi Dave! When during the workflow would you recommend using this technique? BTW, I would like to put in my vote for TK Monday through TK Friday!

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

For basic sharpening I would do it at the beginning of the workflow right after noise removal.

Wow, wondering if this will work with birds when I have halos. I might even try this with Sharpen AI!!

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t see why not Tony. If you are getting halos with sharpen Ai this should work.

Dave I have a question, if I want to use an Orton affect on a selected area on an image, through a save selection, and then wanted to apply an Edge Mask to that area only not the whole image, is this possible?

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

It can be done. I would apply the Orton Effect to the entire image. Then apply the Edge Mask to the Orton Group like I did in the video. Next, make sure you are on the Orton Group layer and load your selection. Now with the CX or Combo Panel click on the Right side (white mask) of the create Group icon and it will put the Orton Group inside a new Group and apply a mask with your selection. The Orton effect will now be applied only to your selected area.

@safatman

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly thank you very much.

Hello Dave, I have a question about using Edge Masks on a photo after using Topaz Denoise and Topaz sharpening. No matter whether I start off with a Smart Object or just a Pixel layer I cannot get the Edge Masks to work. Using your method here works perfectly. I can sharpen like you do here and do the Edge Masking, but as soon as I DeNoise with Topaz the Edge Masking is cancelled out. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

When you say cancelled out, do you mean the Edge Mask Flower Icon is cancelled out?

@geoffreydawes897

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, thanks for answering so quickly. Really appreciate that. What I do is bring the photo into Photoshop, run DeNoise and Sharpen AI. Then duplicate the layer run the Edge Mask as you do in the Video using 2 pixels for the blur, maximise is a problem because I do not know what Sharpen AI uses. In my test I used 1 pixel. Invert the layer and if I leave the Sharpen AI layer activated there is no hiding of the halos. If I turn off the Sharpen AI layer the Edge Masking works but my sharpening is gone. In fact to see the effect of the Edge Masking I have to turn off all Smart Filters, (Topaz Filters) which defeats the object of the exercise.

How does this approach stack up with Topaz Sharpen AI? I’ve been please with TSAI. Thanks

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

Good question. Topaz Sharpen Ai is great especially for focus issues liked missed focus or camera shake but can do basic sharpening as well. If you don’t have Topaz Sharpen Ai this is a good alternative.

@flipflopsLF

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly Thank you. From your past Topaz videos I've purchased Topaz Sharpen, Denoise, Gigapixel and Studio. Very pleased. l do wish Sharpen AI placed a separate layer like Gigapixel when complete.

Can I write Photoshop actions that include TK8 features?

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

Good question Sam but at this time you can’t. In the future Adobe may be able to give Photoshop users the ability to record plug-in clicks into PS actions.

@keithsimpson9754

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a shame. I was going to create an action to streamline the process. Excellent video Dave.

Would seem simpler to first create the edge mask, then apply sharpening to the layer. The (not inverted) mask would protect the edges.

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

The mask needs to be inverted to protect the edges. You have to invert the mask to get dark edges, otherwise they would be light and ineffective.

I just downloaded Topaz as a trial because you use it. I am a little surprised that they offer a months trial but make the images you fix unusable, as they put a water mark on the photo, honestly what’s the point ? I am considering not buying it as I am not happy. Wouldn’t it be better to let you have a full trial for even a week to try it fully then you have to buy the program or they stop the trial. Just saying. PS love your Chanel TK Fridays rocks

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actually, can't get it to work at all after watching the video like 4 times, does make the image worse tho. tried all the way from 100-1-1 to 400-4-4. The original is better with the halo.

@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly

2 жыл бұрын

There is usually more than one way of achieving a desired result in Photoshop and if this Method doesn’t help you then by all means use a method that works for you. This method works with the new tools in the TK8 panel. But you are right about Sean’s method for removing halos, it does a great job. .