Titans Sphere - The Failed 3D Game Controller for PC
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Checking out the odd Titans Sphere by SGRL from 1998! Intended as the ultimate controller for 3D games in the late 90s, the Sphere was a failure on practically every level. "Throw away your joystick?" Ehh not so fast, let's set up this bit of LGR Oddware and see it in action first.
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00:00 An Oddware Introduction
00:40 The Titans Sphere
03:44 Second Generation Research Laboratories
04:58 Late 90s spherical reception
06:27 Unboxing the device
09:07 Setting it up and calibration
11:10 Duke Nukem 3D of course
14:11 Weirdness with Descent 2
16:08 Unreal Tournament GOTY
18:08 Grand Theft Auto III
19:52 Motocross Madness
21:43 Jane's USAF
23:47 This is shockingly bad
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“It’s a piece of s***” - Clint is normally so reserved this really cracked me up.
@davidc1878
3 ай бұрын
Me too, lol. I remember seeing ads for this or maybe in the stores and it looked like an abomination.
@MalikATL
3 ай бұрын
first time seeing this and it's two years older then me @@davidc1878
@bntrs
3 ай бұрын
"This thing is definitely not based - it is baseless"
@johneygd
3 ай бұрын
If i had a shredder,i definitely would,ve shredded this controller,if i had a crusher, i definitely would,ve crushed it,what a huge waste of plastic🥲🥲🤣
@thetechsavvy01
3 ай бұрын
Bro you know he is mad when he starts swearing
"Can almost see the use case for it." For 90s tech startups, this means all the green lights.
@GawrGurasBathTubPizza
3 ай бұрын
_highway to the titan SphereZone_
@ExtraThiccc
28 күн бұрын
Nowadays you don't even need a use case for any new tech! Just look at crypto and nft startups
The designer likely knew of video games, but never actually spent much time playing one. Products like this are great. A company puts too much faith in one person but that person only sounds like they know what they're doing. This leaves them unable to cope with issues. In this case, "Hey, this thing is a pain to center." "Oh, okay I can fix that. We'll just put in a massive dead zone." They didn't know or understand the issue that this would cause.
@LGR
3 ай бұрын
I can fully believe this narrative.
Clint, don't you dare delete any of the old LGR videos. They are pure gold!
Wow, so I assumed on the surface that the gimmick of the wheel design was that you could use the wheel center as some sort of early accelerometer, and roll/pivot the controller itself to mimic degrees of motion. This isnt even that. This is just two joysticks bolted to an obnoxious hunk of plastic.
@ilya_ash
3 ай бұрын
I won't be surprised that it supposed to have gyro and some kind of forced feedback, but the cost of production made it unfeasible, they cut all that down and that's what left
@remkovanalphen5294
3 ай бұрын
Indeed, my first thought too, gyroscope! 😁@@ilya_ash
@Ezullof
3 ай бұрын
I thought it would be some kind of specialist joystick for some kind of airplane simulation or maybe a space game. But it's not calibrated for anything. It's crazy.
@el_cartolel
3 ай бұрын
Yes i also thought on that, its really dumb to put this controller on this uselles "sphere"
@JamesC1981
3 ай бұрын
if you flick your nail on the plastic it you can hear how cheap this thing is lol
It's such a perfect sample of mid-90's consumer PC stuff : box art rendered with 3DS Max, grand premises with WTF execution, ends up gathering dust after a month of frustration
@lurchilurch5507
3 ай бұрын
So true, although a month seems optimistic! 😅
@Zodroo_Tint
Ай бұрын
So a new industry standard indeed.
When you die to the first mob on the first level of Duke3D, you know you have something special in your hands.
"mountain dew presents extreme [type of sport or game]" is perhaps the most late 1990s title possible
@carlklitzke9455
3 ай бұрын
Boards and Blades was the first game I had for my first non-used/outdated computer and I tried so hard to enjoy it.
@BadWallaby
3 ай бұрын
I literally played it on a DELL 2350 with integrated graphics at 30fps LOL desperate times those @@carlklitzke9455
"Talk to em Goose" "I can't, i have a Titans sphere" Oh, that was a good one.
The lighting is so bright. It looks like he just descended from oddware heaven.
@lamronjr8785
3 ай бұрын
And he did. He brings salvation
@KenzertYT
3 ай бұрын
I love it
@tarron3237
3 ай бұрын
It's Oddware Jesus! 😂
@darkidz24
3 ай бұрын
Our oddware Lord returns!
@IntegerOfDoom
3 ай бұрын
The one true god.
"We re confident in our abilities as innovators to produce products that will challenge gamers' minds at every level"
@isaace436
3 ай бұрын
They technically achieved what they set out to do then...
@mialemon6186
3 ай бұрын
They weren’t wrong though! It is a mind fuck how this ever made it to market! 😂😂😂
with the alternating caps on the box it looks like it's mocking itself "TiTaNs sPhErE"
@jolibethrodriguez7471
3 ай бұрын
Graphic desing is my passion meme twenty years before it was cool
@FluffyTheGryphon
3 ай бұрын
Was that late 90s EdGe that was all the rage.
@gruntingskunk2237
3 ай бұрын
Booty p0rn
@charlesswansonii9319
3 ай бұрын
Ah yes, what we call "TorgoType". ThE MaStEr WoUlD ApPrOvE.
@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail
3 ай бұрын
that explains it. when they made this thing, they were just being sarcastic.
This is why I love the late 90s era of electronics. They were trying all sorts of interesting things before set standards existed, and most didn't stick but its cool to look at in retrospect.
@KairuHakubi
3 ай бұрын
risktaking created the best economic time in history. even if you failed, bankruptcy was a lot easier.
@82726jsjsufhejsjshshdjso
Ай бұрын
It’s like interwar aircraft or pre dreadnought battleships. Nobody knows what the fuck works well yet 😂
When something is this bad you have to wonder if they skipped the prototype stage and just went straight to manufacturing without ever testing it
@OwlTowel
3 ай бұрын
Kinda like the Virtual Boy?
@jolibethrodriguez7471
3 ай бұрын
The difference was that the VB was long term the sacrifice of a bishop to secure a knight
@hitempguy
3 ай бұрын
Literally the concept behind children's toys for the first 50 odd years of the concept
@Velo1010
3 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t doubt it 😂
@olaf3140
3 ай бұрын
That's what I thought, there can't be a single person who tested this and thought "woahh this is sooo good, we got a hit on our hands here" It's just mind boggling to think of the whole process of coming up with the idea, producing it, marketing it, and actually putting this somewhat out on the market
Somewhere in the world, there is a framed award on someone's office wall that reads: "Novelty controller of the month."
Company: "It's not a joystick!" Device: *shows up as 4 axis, 4 button joystick*
I love you LGR, seriously. In this complex life, simple videos like yours really just put a smile on my face. No algorithim, no explosions, no 100,000 dollars. just pure grade, and relaxing retro stuff. My favorite ❤
@LGR
3 ай бұрын
Thank you, I’m glad to hear 😊
@ababa9668
3 ай бұрын
@@LGR 😉❤️
Ha, looks like an ergonomics nightmare - reminded of that Simpsons line when the kids are in the arcade: "My doctor says I have the wrists of an 80 year old". That USAF segment was hilarious.
Hahaha “I keep jumping because it’s a piece of shit” hahaha best statement ever Clint ! 😂
“If it didn’t suck, it could be good.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I grew up in the Akron area, this controller is the most Barberton thing I've ever seen.
@mialemon6186
3 ай бұрын
My partner is from Ohio and I had to ask where Barberton was. Even he had to ask where it was. As soon as I read this comment, the lightbulb went on. “Ahhh that explains everything.” 😂
@RobCamp-rmc_0
3 ай бұрын
Word, I was surprised to find it was based there, but it fits perfectly. Like _magic,_ you could say.
@ianlapidakis9566
3 ай бұрын
Straight outta babertucky
Flat-bottom SGRLs, you make the Oddware go round!
This looks like the kind of thing I would have bought on clearance as a kid, and I would have been so enamored with the idea of it I would have tried my absolute hardest to convince myself that it was the best thing ever, no matter how terrible it actually was.
@Zodroo_Tint
Ай бұрын
Are you the kid from our street I knew.
@The8bitbeard
Ай бұрын
@@Zodroo_Tint I might be. Though I think every street had that kid.
Love the raw honesty at 13:00. Yeah I remember these 90's gadgets, they seemed to be everywhere, always cheap quality, and confusingly unnecessary. The mouse and keyboard generally did wonderfully.
$129 for a controller in 1998? that’s crazy expensive for back then
In what universe would this be better than the Sidewinder Force Feedback?!
@johnnyringo35
3 ай бұрын
Universe 616
I did not expect to hear Barberton, Ohio mentioned in a LGR video. I was a teenager there in the 90s do not recall ever hearing about SGRL (Second Generation Research Laboratories, Ltd.) or the Titans Sphere.
It would absolutely benefit from a central deadzone to remove those centering issues. Also, a method of rebinding the axis for steering in racing games would honestly make this potentially usable.
[Spherical Jazz Music] is absolutely the best music to have for this piece of oddware.
Clearly a lesson in ergonomic design... (one in how NOT to design and "3D" controller) On another note, it was so cool to see Loyd Case's review of this contraption at CGW Magazine (he would go on to write for Ziff Davis, PCWorld and MaximumPC later on)! He basically nailed (as he usually did) the few Pros and many Cons of this product perfectly.
Very rare! Clint normally never uses expletives. This device did made him do it. Classic!
You know something sucks when even LGR in his infinitely forgiving sense of humor calls it a piece of shit.
As soon as I saw the CE sign, I thought: Oh, it was sold in Europe! Then I saw "Der Grüne Punkt" and thought: Oh, it was sold in Germany :D This piece of oddness sure took some trips around the world. Like your video. Greetings from Germany :)
@tomyyoung2624
3 ай бұрын
yes so fast, let's set up this bit
@frool76
3 ай бұрын
I was thinking it might come from Germany based on the name. Titanssphere without the Apostrophe sounds like a very German translation.
@tomyyoung2624
3 ай бұрын
@@frool76 Yes one seems to have said this, but this peripheral is yes only spherical, but it looks very much like a human head with large ears! Talk about pulling ones ear.
I would love to see the guts of this thing, and see if the axes can be properly independently mapped, and if the buttons are separate, or just all bundled together. I know the sidewinder was analogue, until you used a driver to kick it into digital mode, so maybe this thing could do the same with a driver (maybe). Or even get it to talk to an Arduino and map to usb and make a silly "functional" (well, non-functional) thing for modern PCs from it
My mom was a manager at Phar-Mor in the 90s. Your channel always surprises me with the waves of nostalgia that hit me while watching.
I love seeing a new LGR episode so much. Thanks man. 😊
The UT segment reminded me of the period I played that game using my old Wacom tablet because my mouse had broken 😂 You should give that a go too, Clint 😅
my favorite part of these kinds of is the ways Clint finds the ways to hold the controller that isn't anymore comfortable but works better, I swear that chin method makes me think whoever made this watched the Light Cycle scene from Tron, looked at how the actors sat to steer them and said "THAT!!! I'M MAKING A CONTROLLER LIKE THAT!!!"
@gmirwin
3 ай бұрын
The Tron theory was my family's consensus as well.
OMG THAT PHAR MOR SHIRT MADE MY BRAIN TRAVEL BACK IN TIME I NEED IT
@npntransistor1505
3 ай бұрын
"We're more than just a drug store.......... We're super.... We're phar more........."
What I find especially strange is that the dead zone is so large - the primary advantage (if deliberate) being that it would center more easily. Yet it doesn't center at all.
@volvo09
3 ай бұрын
They probably couldn't get the manufacturing tolerances close enough so they made the dead zone real wide. It's so plasticy I can't imagine anything else 😂 a big dead zone sucks.
Clint becomes Duke Nukem for one second at exactly the right moment 7:16
"Talk to me goose!" had me crackin xD
@thejunkman
3 ай бұрын
I can't I have a Titans Sphere
I think the intended way of using this was really to rest it on your lap, or put a small mat underneath it if you're using on a table, but it feels like the only way for this to be ergonomic and functional is to use it on your lap or between your legs.
23:22 XD omg - "talk to me Goose" had me dying. It's like they designed this thing just for YOU.
"It's not based!" had me cackling. Loving this episode so far.
I had one of these as a kid! It didn't work well but we used it for Whacky Wheels and Descent!!! It just didn't roll easily at all and, if memory serves me right, it split down the middle and that was that. It was cool though.
“Oh really?! Got knocked out of the way of the rocket and now I’m still alive. How unfortunate!” lol awesome! Sums it up quite well I think.
Wow didn't expect to hear barberton OH mentioned. Had no idea they existed or were there and I grew up running around that small town.
Filming directly against a sunny window and making it look good? Clint is truly a master at his craft.
Honestly, the idea if it had a proper weighted flat base without the sphere portion could've been interesting to see. And of course, you'd need to re-set where those buttons are as well. Basically, if the controller was completely different and , infact, a different product it could've been good. Something like that Playstation analog controller with the two joysticks.
"I can tell you one thing it is anything but intuitive to fly a plane this way" he says while crashing and burning.
Whenever I see an LGR video I feel like I'm home. Relaxed. 😌👍💯 .... wait a minute, I am home!. 😅 Clint videos are always relaxing to watch, you know.😂
IT'S SPHERICAL *_SPHERICAL_*
@RocketboyX
3 ай бұрын
Oh my titans!
"talk to me, Goose" "I can't I have a titans sphere!" rofl best review ever
The PCs wallpaper just unlocked a core memory for me. Thank you
@eamoncournane
3 ай бұрын
Me too, just looked for a while and couldn't find it!
@EddyDisaster
3 ай бұрын
@@eamoncournane search "Windows 98 Inside Your Computer"
@05Matz
3 ай бұрын
@@eamoncournaneI remember that being part of editions of Windows ME with all the extra themes, as part of the "Inside Your Computer" theme pack, if that helps. Or maybe it was the Win95 machine we had? Not sure. We never used Win98 at that point, but the machine in the video is apparently running it, so it was probably in multiple editions of Windows around that time, if that helps. I KNOW I used that background for a while.
@eamoncournane
3 ай бұрын
@05Matz yes that does help! I'm going looking again!
Thanks for the video Clint. ❤
All your Baseless are belong to us.
Why would you boast that your controller is "challenging"? That's the last thing you want in a controller. You want it to be directly controlling the game
its always a pleasur to watch your videos
LOL when you were playing Duke I was tempted to start commenting 'hey why no try decent" but then I realized I watch WAY too many of your videos multiple times, so I knew you'd get to it. Hahaha. Love seeing you trying to find SOMETHING out of old tech like this.
Evil corporations harvesting titans for their spheres...
What if you made an oversize controller based entirely around JoyCon drift
Great content as always ✊🚩 Thanks Clint ☀️
Wow, first time hearing about and seeing this one! So many wild peripherals in the late 90's and it's cool to see yet another zany creation. Would love to see you cover more crazy pc peripherals like the Sidewinder Strategic Commander, lol. Someone even made drivers for that to work on modern windows OS'
This controller looks wheely bad.
Another certified product from Ohio😆
I gotta thank you. oddware has been an amazing help, giving me hindsight on how i truly wanted to game on pc. I will soon be picking up a brand new joystick, alongside a trackball. this, i hope, will not just future proof me, but allow me to revisit old games without pondering how to make the steam controller work with them. so from the bottom of my heart, bless you.
Oddwear makes me so happy and this is one of your bests!
I think we need another LGR channel: "LGR Unfiltered" where Clint just goes off on bad products like this one. I remember seeing this thing and it always looked so bad.
For two days I've been laid up on the couch with a stomach bug, and watching LGR videos is the only thing I've felt up to doing. The subject matter is nostalgic and the tone is so soothing.
Thank you so much for making this content! It takes me back in to a time when the world was so awesome! :)
I love how looking at it for 5 seconds you realize how useless the ball part is. Like, I am pretty sure if it was just two analog joysticks strapped to a surface without the ball part they'd be onto something, in 1998 dual-analog controls were still pretty new.
Your Phar-Mor shirt... dang that brings back some very early memories.
I had that background like 20 years ago! Cheers!
Enjoyed the video. Love the PharMor T-shirt! I remember that place! I think we used to rent video games from there. Oh the memories...
I didn't want to remember this atrocity, so thank you for reviving the horror.
Still going strong Mr lgr I will always love your content good family content !
Watching this hurts my hands and my brain in equal measure. If it wasn't for you being equally frustrated I would not have been able to finish this video. The smooth Jazz calms me down, thanks for that.
Send it to a KZreadr as a challenge to try to modify the internals and make it work well.
Yesssss I missed this kind of content
LOL man, the apostrophe was the first thing I noticed when you showed the box!
All hail the orb!
This thing was painful to watch. I was getting second hand frustration from this video to the point I was yelling at the TV.
I have nothing to add other than the usual awesome friggin' job... but how about that Pharmor shirt? That's a pleasant blast from the past. Rented many an NES game from one in Charlotte for the weekends, on the cheap. Good times.
@LGR
3 ай бұрын
Heck yeah, the one we had in Winston-Salem was a childhood staple
@brianfix4404
3 ай бұрын
Didn’t think Phar-Mor existed that far south.
@MissMTurner
3 ай бұрын
@brianfix4404 we had them in Pennsylvania in the early 80s and it came eventually to Florida in the late 80s/early 90s.
Well, I was certainly not expecting a Phar-Mor shirt when clicking this episode! That certainly takes me back lol.
Dang, I bought an InterAct Cyclone 3D at a junk store a few years back and I never knew there was an official USB adapter for it. Gonna have to add that to the list of things to hunt down...
Amazing video, thank you .
I had to laugh at the reference to the old 'Bop-It Extreme' handheld game...
The rush of dodpamine that arrives as I see a fresh LGR Oddware post..... ahhhhhh :)
Wait a second. Years and years ago I worked at a CompUSA on the north end of Central Ohio, and there was one time I had this long exchange on the sales floor with some people from an upcoming peripherals company about joysticks and other controllers. They wanted to get back to me on sticks they were working on, but I never heard back from them. I have to wonder if these were the same people. It's been thirty years, so who knows.
Every time I see something like this I think "someone had this as their only controller and they loved it"
Holy crap, a Phar-Mor T-Shirt? That takes me back. I think I remember going to a big one regularly that even had a video rental section (because everyone had video rental at some point back in the day) and renting games with the instructions condensed into a label stuck to the back of the case.
"it had to be better back in the day" I didn't own this but I owned a few third party controllers growing up back then and I can assure you that some of them shipping out in this condition.
It was sold in CompUSA... 1000%. I would go there whenever possible and "hang out" because I was a dork and I absolutely saw it there for years.
The smoothness of that CRT and the framerate was really captured well here... that device is ridiculous though!
Honestly it *seems* like something that should be a hit with a niche of 6-degree movement / Simulator fan type gamer. It *seems* like a great idea when you look at it. I could imagine something very similar to this being great for contemporary VR where you sort of need 30 buttons on a controller that can take motion control - with that big drum in the middle being used as a haptic/speaker delivering kinetic and sound feedback.
Oh my god, I've dreamt this kind of thing up already!
Love the shirt, that takes me back to their going out of business sale where we had loose leaf paper and various toiletries for years
That UT99 opening theme takes me baaaaaack.
Didn’t expect to hear Barberton called out in an LGR video. 😄