Thanks ever so much for this Tom, wonderful informative video; as well as thorough and rigorous especially the attention to detail like seasoning of titanium etc... On a different note can you say something about your boots, shorts and jacket... The boots I'm guessing are Meindl Borneo but I could be wrong. Best, Martyn.

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

They are the meindl engadin boots. My previous pair lasted 18 years! My jacket and shorts are fjallraven. The jacket being the bergatagen and the shorts escape me I’m afraid. I did a video on what I take for 2 nights wild camping and I talk about them in a little more detail there. THANK YOU so much for taking the time to comment and I’m pleased you like the video.

@martynbonanza

2 жыл бұрын

@@OffTheBeatenPot 18 years, Wow!.. I've got the Borneo and I love 'em although they're a tad heavy.

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. These are very heavy. However I’ll look at a lighter pair when these give in/ I NEED a new pair/ when I have the money.

An asian channel showed making rice in titanium, by placing a neatly cut out disk from a tin can in between the titanium rice pot and the flame, as a heat diffuser. I tried this, and it works fantastic. I have also tried frying in a titanium frying pan. I figured out that very low heat was my best bet for that.

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 ай бұрын

Genius! That’s so simple it’s actually annoying 😆! Thanks for the suggestion!

I switched to titanium and have never regretted it. The light weight is ideal since I'm a Ultralight packer. The real benefit is how it cools so quickly. It's cooled and packed before I would ever think of touching my Stainless Steel cooking gear. I use a titanium wood burning stove ( Firebox Stoves ) with a Evernew titanium alcohol burner as a 2nd heat source. I like to use Home made Freezer Bag Meals on camping trips but I also fry items. For that I use a Evernew Titanium Non Stick frying pan which is a real NON Stick Pan. The trick to frying foods in titanium is to use a low heat and slow cooking time. No blast furnace flames or trying to beat the stopwatch for the fastest time. Low an slow gets the job done , sort of like me out in the woods. It's not unusual to see the same turtle pass me several times during the day. I'm not out there to race anything or anyone. lol At home ( Or Canoe trips ) frying anything it's a Cast Iron Frying Pan every time.

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this insight Chuck. And yes I love taking my time in the outdoors. Especially when it comes to cooking. And cast iron can’t be beaten for cooking with at home. That ever new pan sounds interesting!

Nice upload, really nicely filmed. I haven't used a titanium cooking set before, but I got a titanium cooking set a couple of months ago and I just don't go on any trails without it.👌👌

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying so! When you get used to using them. I think they’re brilliant!

No stair stomping sounds, just calming waves. Wonderful.

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

😂 it made for a pleasant change I thought!

You're the only other person I know who season's their titanium cookware! I do it in a stove at first. Just like you'd do a cast iron pot. But I like your idea for keeping it seasoned while on trail.

@OffTheBeatenPot

3 күн бұрын

Yes!! I’m not alone!

titanium for boiling water. and thats it. aluminium or stainless for cooking food. plan your pans around what your likely to be eating. hydrated meals or proper cooking.

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

I agree aluminium and steel are easier. But info get on fine with my little set. And planning on what cooker/ set to take around what food you’re planning on is a great way of doing things. Thanks for the comment!

Nice overview! I notice you're using an alcohol stove, so you might be interested in an improved windscreen/potstand sold by Trail Designs. Basically a titanium (or aluminium) conical support form-fitted to a specific pot, these capture and focus nearly all the heat below onto the bottom and sides of the pot. Amazingly fast and effective heating -- but they do have a bewildering variety of options to select from, depending on how many different fuels, materials, and form factors are best suited to your needs.

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

I have a selection of windscreens. I feel very comfortable with the trangia. That said I’m now about to go and check out their offerings as I’m always keen to see what’s going on and how people are innovating in such things. Thanks for stopping by, watching and taking the time to comment!

ti is good for everything except frying, even a nonstick-coated ti frying pan is bad simply because ti doesn't conduct heat very well so you always get hot spots. soups do pretty well with ti but thicker soups or stews or sauces might have problems with scorching due to hot spots. if anything, ti works much better on alcohol stoves due to their lower heat output.

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

I always manage to fry/ cook well. I think you’re right and this is down to me favouring the alcohol stove. Though I have to think a lot less on other materials.

Great video - subscribed! My tuppence worth: Ti is best at boiling water. For actual cooking, aluminium is difficult to beat, or a stainless / aluminium mix (like your saucepans at home). I’m a big fan of hard-anodised aluminium: most of the advantages of Ti, and also inert, but great at cooking. Cheers!

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with everything you say here. I went in a lot about it but cut it from the video as it was mostly waffly bumf! I have learned to cook well on Ti however when I used hard anodized I have to ‘manage’ things a lot less. Thank you so much for the sun and the comment. It’s an honour to have you here!

nice cooking set

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Received my trangia and the gerber you recommended. 1st burn/cook was a rib eye for birthday breakfast yesterday. Great purchases, many thanks. Not convinced on titanium for now, as you suggest you need some weight in the base.

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

Ribeye!!!! Start your own channel that sounds ace!

@theandybchannel.1819

Жыл бұрын

@@OffTheBeatenPot ran a channel on lock sport many years ago, far too much effort... 😂. I'll leave it to the professionals.... Besides, I have the perfect face for radio. 😂

Thanks for another informative video. I personally have been using various Titanium options for a few years, and most of the time they perform really well. However there have been occasions when the weight of the them has proved to be a negative. Amongst other items I have a Vargo Titanium Hex stove, combined with a Evernew Titanium Trangia. And it is a pretty good combo for a simple set up. I did however have an accident with this set up. I had it setup on a rock all fuelled up and running, but before I could get my pot onto it , a gust came and up and blew it over. Lesson learnt, I no longer use it in high winds. All of the Titanium stuff I have has stood up over the last 10 or so years, and I highly recommend it in the right conditions. Atb Mally

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

That happened to me not long ago! Thanks for mentioning it here as until it happens tou you it doesn’t get thought about.

@mally125

Жыл бұрын

@@OffTheBeatenPot The Vargo can be pegged down through the base, on soft ground, not on rocks unless you take a dewalt sds drill with you. And that sort of defeats the purpose of lightweight gear.

@mally125

Жыл бұрын

Don't know if these are still available on Amazon Black Friday, Fire-Maple Island Camping Steamer Set. I paid less than £30 for it. I think this could be a game changer for you. I've had it delivered today and I'm impressed. Going to try some steamed asparagus/cavalo nero with some chinese style dumplings.

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

@@mally125 I can’t find them anywhere?!

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

@@mally125 I’m a Makita man myself.

I put nearly all my Titanium Stuff in the corner. it is lightweight but thats it. it takes longer to heat up things and it can't store the heat as long as stainless steel or aluminium. its only for UL traveling but more usefull and cheaper is stainless steel

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

The stainless stuff that’s coming out at the moment is incredible. The msr kits and the Stanley sets cool beautifully and don’t weigh as much as many people might think. Titanium definitely has disadvantages. I’ve never found it takes much longer than aluminium for example. But I’ve never been in a hurry to count I suppose??! If I could afford a compact ceramic coated aluminium (or titanium) set, I think that’s the way I’d be heading. Thanks for taking the time to comment and leave your thoughts. I appreciate it and it gets me thinking.

@drug2

2 жыл бұрын

@@OffTheBeatenPot Depends on your loadout. If you go UL it makes sense to use titanium. If you just replace the cooking stuff and smaller items like fork, knife for titanium and then use a tent that weights 3kg or a hammock with ~ 1.5kg or more....i don't know 😄😄

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

True. It’s all a part of the bigger picture

Olive oil is bad for seasoning, but otherwise good video.

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Granted it’s not the best, though I have found for thin titanium it does the trick well. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

Can you season the pan after cooking with the left over oil that already in the pan?

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

Great question and absolutely you can. Just get it nice and hot before you season it. And careful of any hard/ burnt bits of food that may scratch.

@HardyBunster

Жыл бұрын

@Off The Beaten Pot I purchased a boundless voyage titanium fry pan which is rubbish as it has a raised area in the middle, no idea why they did that. I have now ordered a new Lixada titanium fry pan and will season it from day one. Looking foreword to some recipe ideas from your videos. 🙂 👍

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

I hate it when they do that! I think some do it for better traction on cooksets and possibly as a ‘fat catcher’. But it just ruins being able to actually fry on them. The lixada one is great. I think it’s the one I have before lixada stuck their badge on it. It works really well with the gerber compleat.

Can you use toaks on open fire

@OffTheBeatenPot

6 ай бұрын

I’ve never had a problem.

Titanium is actually a pretty bad heat conductor. IT transfers heat quickly due to it's thickness alone. The thinner the more burns spots you usually get.

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out. I forgot my gcse science classes there. I remember being told that but yes, the sheer thickness (or lack of) makes the heat transfer.

@trioultimo

8 ай бұрын

Stainless steel is almost the same resistant.

[1:13] Titanium is by far not a more lightweight alternative to aluminium. The specific weight of titanium is 4,51 g/cm³, that of aluminium is only 2,71 g/cm³. Your 60 g titanium pot would weigh 36 g if it was aluminium (and about 13 g if it was plastic). And there is thermal resistance: The higher, the better the material protects from heat, and you heat rather the environment than the water in the pot. Aluminium: about 15 W/(mK), Titanium 160 W/(mK). Disadvantage: Even if there are robust aluminium alloys, titanium in general is more robust. Some people believe, that aluminium is harmful, but that is a very controversial opinion, and is also discussed for titanium.

@OffTheBeatenPot

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this comment. This is a level I wouldn’t have even considered to look at. I really appreciate you taking the time to share this info.

@zembalu

6 ай бұрын

@@OffTheBeatenPot You are welcome! AFAIK, none of the countless other youtube videos considers that fact about thermal resistance either, so I thought it was worth mentioning. Perhaps, one should make a video with a comparison, how long it takes to boil water in aluminium, titanium and steel (about 50 W/(mK) pots, like is done for different stoves.

@OffTheBeatenPot

6 ай бұрын

@zembalu perfect idea. I’ll set this up and record the findings. I think some people will be interested. Thanks again!

2:49 Wrong. Titanium is much worse than steel or aluminium at conducting heat. That is why users often complain about hot spots in their titanium pots and pans. Titanium also cools off much quicker because of this. It's much easier to burn your food in a titanium pan because of the low conductivity.

@OffTheBeatenPot

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for that input. I appreciate it.

@svenskanal

3 ай бұрын

@@OffTheBeatenPot Thank YOU for an otherwise very good video.

@OffTheBeatenPot

3 ай бұрын

@@svenskanal it’s my pleasure. I do try very hard to get the info right. Sometimes my turn of phrase lets me down. Or I just miss the point! So I really do appreciate community input. And really, thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. It means a lot to me.

Is that the ever elusive Trangia triangle? Hard to find over here, across the pond, Vancouver 🇨🇦 I have many titanium gear, after getting it installed in my skull... Yup brain surgery, highly recommended when u get a brain 🧠 tumor, it's now an inoperable leftover remnant & I'm on annual MRi's watch & wait. So far so good 👍 Poor impulse control and an addiction to titanium, yup LoLz 😂

@OffTheBeatenPot

Жыл бұрын

It is the trangia triangle. You can order it direct from trabgia but the postage is MASSIVE! Great to hear you’re still with us after your surgery. You’re basically an x-man!

@danielsingh9415

Жыл бұрын

@@OffTheBeatenPot in more ways than one 😜

Bonjour !! Présentation matériel en Titane chez Keith kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqFpmcV_oMffYrA.html Merci à bientôt

@OffTheBeatenPot

7 ай бұрын

Formidable! Merci

lost me at 'expensive'

@OffTheBeatenPot

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Fair and fair.