TITANIC miniature effects part 2
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TITANIC miniature effects (part 2). Robert Skotak and Gene Rizzardi talk about the miniatures made for the film by 4Ward Productions and Digital Domain. Extended segment from my Sense of Scale documentary. Photos: Gene Rizzardi, Robert Skotak, Bruce Macrae, Jim Davidson
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I have always said, we need to have more models with a touch of CGI. Not the other way around. Today we rely on way too much CGI.
@anthonyhebisen
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. I Actually rewatched True Lies, and the practical effects and miniatures were far superior to effects today. I’m so glad Titanic was made in 97..if it were made today it would be probably all CGI and no sets of practical effects
@pc_buildyb0i935
Жыл бұрын
It isn't even that we rely too much on CGI. CGI has the potential to look amazing, nigh-photorealistic. But companies wanna skimp. They cheap out everywhere they can and we just wind up with shitty CGI that isn't fooling anybody and the excuse is "it's the style"
@kimbostattoo33
Жыл бұрын
It's cheaper. They want it to be the cheapest as possible. I think I will just start rewatching all the Golden age movies. But there's hope.
@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz
Жыл бұрын
We don't need models anymore. Perhaps, just for one shot of 2. And I'm not talking about today's 99% Hollywood films that use CGI in the worst ways. I'm talking about that Canadian filmmaker.
@leonleon2276
Жыл бұрын
Yeh but no one cares about what you say on line bro…..
At 4:53 in the video you can see Cameron's alien queen maquette from "Aliens" on one of the upper decks.
I must have seen Titanic at least 15 times and wasn’t aware that they had so many miniatures. I thought it was mainly digital effects. Amazing models. Especially the wreck on the ocean floor. Breathtaking!
@sabrinastratton1991
Жыл бұрын
I believe that one I saw at the Titanic Exhibit in Vegas. It's huge
@EmazingGuitar
Жыл бұрын
I think they digitally enhanced the model to look more real instead of having the texture of a model.
Amazing 'behind-the-scenes' video footage of masterpiece models! They should all be given a place of honored history in the Smithsonian!!!
This is the best channel on KZread.
@piercefilm
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
"I knocked it off" lol, what a boss move. :D
"No, it's not there any more. I knocked it off." Classic James Cameron.
@knightsofrreee7961
Жыл бұрын
He might be talented, but he's a total gonk.
@marklchapman2785
Жыл бұрын
@@knightsofrreee7961 What is a gonk ?
Thank you again for this great content. It is so much fun to listen and watch.
For the last one, and a half, year, I've been researching those cranes the were beside the Titanic at the White Star Line Docs, because I'm making a scale version of it. And I have never founded good quality material about there shape. Thanks to these documentary, now, I got it! Thank you so much!
Fantastic models, so well done!
Awesome stuff. I’m a big fan of the miniature work done in movies of this time. ...Inspired me to make more than one model of Titanic!
@jackvolta3489
3 жыл бұрын
Well make one that 1 or 2 ppl sitting in tandem can actually pilot, could use troll motors for power, did you know nothing but wires run down the shaft of one therefore you could shorten the shaft or use the motor & propeller as a modular unit, mounting it anywhere💡building a model is one thing but building a replica that you can actually sit in and control, would be the ultimate build, I mean if your willing to build a ship that just sits there on a stand for onlookers, your missing one important element and that's water, without it is like a bird without wings! I've always wanted to build this its been a dream of mine ever since Jack & rose made Titanic a household name again, but I lack the room of a garage to build it in, otherwise I would have already started, "hell" I would have been done by now! anyway folks my ship of dreams may just be that for me, but anyone else inspired by my foresight please indulge as I would love to see this dream become reality for someone, if not myself. Some of my research gave me these finding a one person vessel would need to be @ 3'x18ft long 2 ppl would need to be @ 3.5x22ft long with a total ballist wt of 1250/1500 lbs that's including the wt of the ppl inside and all the components within the hull. Special chambers could also be built & filled with sand or stones to add more ballist if needed. 😜👍
Those are some incredible models/ props. Although, there is much that can be done with CG, mostly out of necessity, nothing beats a real replica of the real thing.
Those models are amazing, and I hope they found a new life after the movie in Titanic museums and exhibits. Especially the wreck model at the end looekd amazing
@ScarabChris
Жыл бұрын
There is one sitting on the island of Malta but this one I believe was from the movie "Raise the Titanic" but it is of equal size at 50 feet long.
Love your videos...
@piercefilm
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! More coming up soon.
This is definitely the best movie of all time with its practical and miniature effects.
Complimenti per il Titanic👏
My favorite part is that they stick characters from other movies into this.
@Cookies2132
Жыл бұрын
Well, that is what happens in most films 🤦♂️😂
@KunoMochi
9 ай бұрын
I never knew they stuck the classic R2-D2 on the pristine model and also Godzilla on the wrecked Titanic. lol I'll have to look out for them the next time I watch the film again!
ironically the Southampton ship model is more accurate than the Southampton ship SET.
Looks like they used off-the-shelf LGB model trains for the dock scenes.
Did he just say that James Cameron wrecked the wreck of the Titanic? :D
That's funny about the comment about Cameron knocking a rail off the wreck, as it was true. He had a complete disregard for the wreck and during the making of this movie and caused considerable damage to the real wreck.
First I’m hearing that Cameron casually damaged the wreck…
@KunoMochi
9 ай бұрын
James Cameron does what James Cameron does because he's James Cameron.
@TukaihaHithlec
9 ай бұрын
@@KunoMochi Definitely not the first time I’ve heard that lol
Cant believe that replica never touched water I would have bet that model was actually manned and controlled from within its hull on water such an epic replica, I heard a rumor that this replica was destroyed after the movie was made is there any truth to this? And if not can you still view this replica today?
@gayjay120
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's in a museum somewhere because james Cameron borrowed it back for the 3d re release of titanic in 2012 to add 3d depth to the shots of the ship in the movie and also both models were present on his titanic the final word documentary on nat geo.
@jackvolta3489
3 жыл бұрын
@@gayjay120 I hope so.✌
@doyoulikedags3534
2 жыл бұрын
The replica you're thinking about is the one from "Raise the titanic". That model wasn't destroyed as much as it was left to rot after production finished.
I'm not an expert so I can only go by what little I actually know, but in my mind CGI is a tool just like a wrench or a hammer. The problem is as I see it in a lot of big budget films they grab the hammer without considering if it will be useful to the task at hand. Sure are there things only a hammer can do? Absolutely, does that mean that the rest of the tool-kit is obselete and the hammer can magically do everything? Absolutely NOT. A good example that comes to mind is the Live Action Lion King, the effects in of themselves were neat, but they ABSOLUTELY did not help the film in any way. On the other hand, TITANIC used a wide variety of tools and that's why it succeeded despite it's bloated budgetary issues.
Anyone know who did the ship models for 1984s tnt movie ironclads about css virgina and monitor
@piercefilm
2 жыл бұрын
Effects Associates Ltd. in England. Miniature ships filmed at Pinewood Studios.
What happened to the models ?
@piercefilm
Жыл бұрын
Most are in James Cameron's private collection.
Titanic was a Movie of the week. The movie itself I mean
Keep the titanic models, we can use it later for our future movie about Earth in the future where ocean are dries and all shipwreck will be seen by some future world survivors.. Our movie story will be making history and we will utilize whatever miniature you have there. A new income for your production...
@piercefilm
3 жыл бұрын
You'll have to ask James Cameron. I think he owns some of the Titanic models.
@amerfilmstudios9292
3 жыл бұрын
@@piercefilm thanks 😊. We can contact him. Appreciated your kind reply and advice. Regards from us : AMERFILM STUDIOS 👌😁🙏
😯😯6:44 Alien...?
@piercefilm
Жыл бұрын
just a little model shop joke.
@caetanosantos7432
Жыл бұрын
@@piercefilm I actually enjoyed the joke, thanks for the feedback !
Lovely model work... a shame it wasn't actually the Titanic that hit the iceberg but the Olympic.
@piercefilm
Жыл бұрын
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@darthbuzz1
Жыл бұрын
...And no, I don't think the Earth is flat or that NASA didn't land on the moon.
@Cookies2132
Жыл бұрын
@@darthbuzz1 it wasn't the Olympic. Another conspiracy theorist.
@darthbuzz1
Жыл бұрын
@@Cookies2132 I am certainly NOT a conspiracy theorist. And there is compelling evidence on this one. I think it is unless you can convince me otherwise instead of just throwing out accusations.
@TukaihaHithlec
10 ай бұрын
@@darthbuzz1The evidence is incredibly weak at best and intentionally deceptive at worst. If you fall for and peddle conspiracy theories, then you’re a conspiracy theorist.