This is a great introduction to mist propagation!! My mist system is only "slightly" more professional than this, but especially for smaller growers like me, there's no reason to spend a ton on it.Great info!!

If you figured out how to program the misting timer, you can do anything! Great video.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks - I won't pretend it was easy!

Great video Jason and perfect timing for one of my projects!

Your natural ability to teach is amazing.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lisbet!

Just started up a little backyard nursery and set up a propagation area. Loved this video and bought this misting set up along with the timer. Thank you for a great, detailed video. Let the propagation begin.

🌺I will definitely try this misting system project sometime soon🌹. I really like the easy-to-follow instructions from beginning to end, thank you Fraser Valley Rose Farm 🌺

I am providing my feedback a year after you've posted this informative report on misting system, the details of assembling the components and to integrate the system into the operation. Great explanation and practical suggestions. Thank you...

Holy cow! I love how detailed you do everything! I'm about to set up a greenhouse w tropicals and need lots of humidity, and need to not only set up misters, but also cycle on and off! THANK YOU!!!

Thank you for demystifying that timer and demonstrating it. I have a hard time programming these things.

I'm not sure how you figured out how to set this timer from reading the directions, but I'm glad you did. It was totally confusing. Your tutorial was awesome. The timer works perfectly.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was a bit tricky to set - but works great after that. Thanks for the feedback!

Hello again Fraser, Thanks for bringing up the filter. I talked to a large drip/' mist company and they said a Drip filter is what to get. I got one with a 150 mesh and installed it today. That should save me a lot of issues in the future. Oh yeah and my timer is working perfectly Thanks for your help

Thank YOU so much for all the time and information of making your videos. Very informative and well done.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Shelly!

What a great video on setting up a timed mister. I have been too intimidated to even try to set one up, but with your clear explanation I thing I will. Thank you for sharing.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure Dianne. Best of luck with your setup

Wow great video the timer walk threw alone made my day . Thanks

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Best of luck

Thank you. It is useful. Hope that those parts available for Australia

Thank you for another great video- I’ve learned so much from your content.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bryony

Pleasant and clear presentation

Thank you so much for sharing! I have been looking or this info. Much appreciated, have a great day!

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dani - I'm glad you found it useful

As usual, very interesting video...thank you

Thanks for this video. I used your info to build a small prop. table using an old pallet. Just took and stuck my cuttings. Hopefully I’ll have some success

I love this system for my propagation house. I thought about my dad and all his work with cuttings. Had he could have had this system in the 70s, there would have been no limit to what he could have grown. Thank you so much for sharing this system. It works great

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Mike - I'm glad it's working out for you

Thank you!! I have been looking for an affordable option, ordered it all, and set it up today thanks to your directions.

@randyman8984

2 жыл бұрын

Are you still liking the system? I'm thinking about setting me one up

@brandyandrobert

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it's still working great!

Nice system and very good tutorial.

This is a great video! I built a large, hoop greenhouse and installed a misting system to cool it and keep the humidity up. I bought all the items you mentioned in the video. I am very techy, but I'm sure I would have struggled with the configuring and and programming the timer. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH!

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Very much my pleasure. And best of luck with your growing

This video was so helpful and I have watched it several times to remember how to set the timer. Love the information you provide on a regular basis. Thank you.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Thanks for the encouragement

@BLEACH500

9 ай бұрын

Ill be buying one soon and using this video also very helpful not have to search and hoping you got all the right stuff

Very well explained, great job..

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dirk

Thank you so much for this information

Very helpful. Thank you.

Interesting video! Thank you

Excellent project Blessings

Thank you for this post. As you know not much info is available about how to actually build a system like this. I purchased everything you suggested except for the misters. I found these (Senninger Upright Misters) that you put on a 1/2 inch pipe 12 inches above the plants. So you would run a 1/2" pipe along to top of your sand/soil with these standing straight up. It only takes 2 of these to fully cover a 4' x 8' bed. They are under $2.00 each and about $4.95 shipping. Purchased from Drip Depot. I have no affiliation with them. I found them after hours of searching for good misters. I hope they work for me. I wrote down all of your great instructions for this little timer and will go out and try setting the timer up when this rain stops today. My ordered misters will be here in 1 to 6 days. I'll try to update how your setup works for me when it's finished. Thanks you are a lifesaver

Hey, sorry - false start there. I realized I missed a kind-of-important 30 second video clip, and had to add it and re-upload. So if you saw it here, and then it disappeared on you, that's why!

Hi Jason! Not needed. Too much for me, but enjoyed your tutoring and your playing with all those “toys”. Enjoy!

Awesome video!

Thanks, mister.

This is a good video. I did something like this about 4 months ago and it's pretty amazing. I used what appear to be the same misters and used a sprinkler valve and power supply as you did here. I used a different controller, though. After watching you set the one in this video, I had to say something because the programming you did on it was painful to watch. I got one on Amazon that just has 2 knobs and a photo cell. One knob for On and one for Off. The setting knobs have seconds to minutes in smooth, stepless motion. On is up to 30 min and Off is up to 60 min. The photo cell causes it to only function when the lights are on (I've not tested it to be sure it's off in the dark). It doesn't have as many features as the one here, but it's very easy to operate. HTH.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'll have to see if I can find that one - simpler is better sometimes!

Thanks for sharing

Great video

So where have you been? Joking of course. I just spent hours in Home Depot and Lowes. Fortunately, I bought nothing. I found your video on misting. Bought it. Thank you. PS I live in Nooksack, WA Near Sumas

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Always nice to hear from a local gardener! I hope it works out nicely for you!

Thanks a lot for this

I'm trying to build one, one thing I learned. Not all plug in timers are created equally, look for one that has a cycle timer or repeat cycle timer.

well presented info, I am making a similar setup, will look into the timer , I have used netafim coolnet foggers, a cross design fogger , you can block off each fogger for even corner and side watering, 6 coolnet foggers would give you much more even and gentler mist than the18 in the video

@atomizer2665

3 жыл бұрын

3 netafim coolnets in a x+x configuration is good for a 8ft x 4 ft bench, 1-2 seconds of mist is all you need.

@vitex1231

2 жыл бұрын

Coolnet foggers are definitely the way to go for cutting propagation. It requires pvc piping connections and is typically available only from irrigation supply companies but the fog they put out gently hydrates the cuttings without drowning them as fog droplets are much smaller than mist droplets. This timer setup is very economical (compared to typical mist timers) and could easily be used with foggers.

Great, detailed and highly informative video. Thankyou so much. One quick question how did you connect the solenoid to the AC adapter?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

8 ай бұрын

Wires and marettes.

Great setup & tutorial! Ever consider a humidity monitor (like inkbird) to switch the mister on/off?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 ай бұрын

I looked at it a while back, but never found a setup I was satisfied with.

Hi Fraser, I love your videos, very honest and to the point and I have learned a lot from you. So I thought I share one experience with you too. I have a watering system consist of solenoid valve and smart wifi plug. I control that via Home Assistant (it is free and simple) which is installed on an inexpensive Raspberry Pi. I use Node Red add on in Home Assistant for easy automation. The advantage, you wouldn't need several Timers if you like to expand watering system, you would only need a smart plug (which is not expensive (I am using one from TP link which cost about 120 NOK in Norway (12 USD)) and solenoid valve of course. Then you can set up and control all of them in one convenient place. I am not a computer freak but I could learn it :-). I am think you can benefit from this approach. Let me know if like to know more details about this and I'll try my best to make it more clear, that would be my way of thanking you.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Reza. I had given some thought to the kind of system you're describing, and I really think this is where I'll go in future projects. I just have to research and make sure that whatever software I'm using to control the valves is able to give me the custom timing settings I'm looking for.

@dashtpour56

2 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I am glad to hear that :-) with Home Assistant and Node Red you will have full control, almost no limitation to what you can do. In addition, both are open source software. Best of luck with your research and don't hesitate to give a shout if you decided to give it a try and needed some assistant.

that bell icon might be the beep sound when a button is pressed because the beep sound disappeared when you took the bell icon off

This is a long time dream of mine, but I'm trying to "focus" on the 800 other projects I have going on first.

Thank you for your kind reply. Two questions: 1. Did this system performed in practice to your satisfaction? 2. Is there a part list (especially the H2O adapters/fittings) for this system which you've published? Thank you again.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's been pretty good. I had a few clogging problems at first, then I added I fine mesh filter inline and it's been a lot better. I published an Amazon shopping list at the time I made the video - I hope it's all still valid: www.amazon.com/shop/fraservalleyrosefarm/list/2HU03N4GX8CCO?ref=cm_sw_em_r_aipsflist_aipsffraservalleyrosefarm_dp_JRuZkbgB5Dx3V

Excellent video, you're doing everything I'm trying to do here. The timer is really confusing to me, there must be an easier timer iut there somewhere by now I'm hoping. If you stumble across one in your travels please let me know. What number misters are you using, ?mm. Thank you

nice, I am wondering where you got the 120/ 24 vac adapter for the irrigation solenoid ? I can find most of the different size irrigation solenoids 1/2 , 3/4 , 1 in ...etc inlet /outlet irrigation solenoids. But most of them need a 24 volt power source. Did you use a specific 24volt adapter ? Because i am debating on using a door bell transformer or a hvac thermostat transformer because i cannt find an adapter for it.

Just make sure to know how much watts /power you are putting on the smart outlet they all have max ratings. But i would imagine a couple solenoid valves on them would be fine a lot are rated for 1500 watts or more which is pretty decent for a single appliance or few appliances.

Hi, Jason, thank you so much for showing us so many propagation information. I really appreciate. We just built a new house, need lots of plants for our front and back yard. For saving money, We bought a small greenhouse from amazon, and set up mist system. Now feel confuse about how much mist I should apply to my cuttings. People all say the rooting soil should moisture, not soggy. I saw one of your video said you mist 5 seconds per 10 minutes even in crowdy day, I set up the mister 5 seconds each 10 minutes at day time, and use fans control inside not too hot. I had put my cuttings 4 days and they look good so far, the problem is now the pot soil seems all soggy. Question: if continue mist them like this, will my cuttings rot ? Thank you!

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jenny. You may have to tweak your timing, but in my climate I'm still doing 5-6 seconds every 10-15 minutes. My soil does hold a bit more moisture on cloudy days, but on a sunny day it's just about perfect.

@jennylou8706

2 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I really appreciate you take time to reply me. Now I set up timer 3 seconds per 20 minutes. Seems ok. Thank you very much!

Just to share iv found that misting new cuttings 24 hours for the 1st 3 to 5 days from stick keeping the leaves wet all the time prevents the cutting from drying out from the shock.after 3 to 5 days then switch off the night mist.This improved my rate of success cause it keeped the cuttings very turgid.Misting 2 to 3 secs every 10 to 15mins.sometimes every hour at night.Hope this helps out someone.

What a great video! We followed your instructions using the recommended items in the tutorial. QUESTION...everything works...except only a portion of the mister nozzles are working now. ( we ran them without the solenoid and timer while waiting for them to arrive, and they worked like a dream.) What could be the issue???? We already adjusted the flow with the knob turning it counterclockwise to allow more flow and it didn't fix it.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Those little misting nozzles can be susceptible to clogging from particles of algae in the water. There are some fairly inexpensive filters you can install inline (just before or after the solenoid) to reduce the risk of clogging.

@michelehart9074

3 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks I will give it a try.

@randyman8984

2 жыл бұрын

@@michelehart9074 just curious if you ever figured it out?

Thank you, Jason. If we are starting from scratch, would you place these nozzles a little higher so you can get a wider spray, and fewer water droplets on the cuttings? How about if we point the nozzles upwards and let the surrounding area get higher humidity rather than mist? What kind of water pressure do you have at the hose end?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

I'll continue to play with how they're aimed - the way the compression fittings work, it's easy to pivot to adjust coverage. I may pivot those on the outside to be a bit wide, and the ones in the centre to mist up or horizontally or slightly upward. It depends on what I find when I get trays in there. These systems are designed to work on regular municipal water pressure. Mine is generally around 40psi.

@elraed

3 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks

I sure miss having a techy person in my life. I don't like doing the techy stuff!!

Hello! Thank you so much for these videos. I’ve been watching many of them as I prepare to start propagating roses! I had 2 questions regarding a potential misting set up. Firstly, I am in Northern California with high heat (100 degrees plus on some days during the summer), and am wondering if I should set up my system on the patio, in shade underneath the overhang, or against the house East facing with no overhang, so that it gets sun but only in the morning? Then my second question is, is it too hot altogether to do it outside? I don’t have a greenhouse yet and live in a small cabin so outside would be preferred however wanting to set it up so that I have a good success rate with cuttings so will do it inside the house if needed. Thank you so much and best wishes to you! 🙏🏽🌹

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

I like the idea of the morning sun location. As for the overall temp, that's going to be a matter of trial and error. There's some chance you can manage it okay in the morning sun location with the mist, but I do appreciate my indoor prop space for exactly the reason of temperature stability.

@allibattaglia6942

Жыл бұрын

Ok great! Thank you so much!

Jason, thank you for your tutorial. My mist system is outside so I need a unit that is suitable for outdoors. I purchased Mist Timer II from Amazon but it has failed miserably. Can you recommend a timer that would be suitable for outdoor use without the $300-400 price tag?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

11 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear. I haven't been searching actively for a solution to your problem, so there may be more available than I know. One potential solution is the RainPoint irrigation system (or components of it) that I reviewed earlier this year - it had a mist setting controlled in low duration cycles, so that looked promising to me.

Hi Jason quick question, Do you think it would be possible to start a plant nursery in east coast Canada say like PEI or would it be to cold and a short season ?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think you can. I'll bet you there are successful nurseries in the maritimes, just as there are in northern Alberta, and even in Alaska. The trick is to understand the needs of your local market and to have a plan to manage within your season. It might be advantageous to buy in some plant starts early in the season to get a jump on things.

Hi Jason. What size are your tables? In your earlier videos, I didn't hear you mention it.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Roughly 5 x 8 ft

Great instructions for a small nursery set up! Being technically challenged and very respectful of electricity, can you tell me how to set up the solenoid valve to the timer? Once I know I'm sure I will feel totally stupid, but I really do hate messing with anything electrical so dont want to get it wrong. Thank you!

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Louise. It's been a while since I did the project, but as I recall it was just a 24v transformer (from the supplies list) that was plugged directly into the timer, and then the two small wires from the transformer connected with small marettes to the solenoid wires.

@louiseolander9569

2 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm hi and thanks for your reply. My solenoid has 2 black wires. Does it matter which wires I connect them to? I purchased the timer etc from Amazon via your Amazon page recommendations. I really am useless at this lol

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

No problem Louise. It doesn't matter which one goes to which.

Hello Fraser, I was wondering that after using this timer for some time now, has it been dependable for you? Are you still using the same timer or have you decided to move up to a professional timer? Would you still purchase this timer if you needed another misting system? I have just begone programing mine and though it's complicated it will be worth the effort if it lasts for a good period of time. I have a Facebook page and want to tell my 17,000 members about this timer if it has been dependable for you. Thank you for all the things you share with us all. Don

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Donald. The timer has been fine. The misters themselves have been a bit susceptible to clogging, but I added a mesh filter to the system and it seems to help. I was thinking of trying a smart-plug/home automation type system for my next attempt, but I'm not there yet.

@donalddunn2983

2 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you Fraser, I'm glad to hear that this timer has been dependable for you. I have been thinking about getting a filter also, would you mind divulging which one you choose? You have been a great help to so many with this tutorial on your system.

Hi Jason, You said "when the sun get on the plants" how much sun comes through your greenhouse? I am guessing equivalent to like having a 50% shade cloth?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Randy - no, not so shaded as that by the greenhouse. I do add supplemental shade, but the greenhouse itself is more like 90% light transmission

daaaaang! looks good. i need to fit that to my toilet. jah bless!

I have a small 12x16 hoop house and seriously considering ordering these parts by have one concern: I won’t be needing all the misting head going at the same time most likely. Does the company that makes the hose and mixing heads also off shut/off valves for the individual misting heads? Thanks for this video.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

19 күн бұрын

I think at that point you may need to look at a more professional system. This one is pretty makeshift

Hi Jason, would a misting setup duplicate the conditions that hybrid teas like, cool weather? I've been thinking how they grow beautiful roses in arid desert regions short of putting centralized air-conditioning in their greenhouses.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Raymund. This kind of mist can be useful for cooling and raising humidity. In our propagation house we use a cooling pad / swamp cooler for the same reasons.

@raymundsantos2324

3 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you!

Is there any reason why you couldn't also build a bed underneath for propagating plants that don't need as much light & set up drip under there too? Thank you for this tutorial.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

4 ай бұрын

I don't see any reason this couldn't work

Could you recommend a timer that is available? The one on your store is not. I can not see where that short of a time was available in the descriptions. I really should stop I already have too many, but it is an obsession now that I have been successful!

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. The same timer is available from multiple suppliers, but sometimes they change their assortment on Amazon. I just updated the Amazon list to switch suppliers: you'll see in the description of the timer that the minimum interval is 1 second.

Do you find the spread of the nozzles is sufficient?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

I've been fiddling with it a bit to make sure there aren't too many dry patches. Also added a prefilter before the solenoid. It's working well so far.

how do you deal with clogged up tubes due to algae formation?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen the problem more with supply tubes if they're light colored so the light penetrates and grows the algae. Covering or painting the supply tubes can help.

Thank you Jason. A question: Can I mist 1 minute every hour? Is that too different? I have been having trouble to find in my country (Chile) a timer with seconds. Regards

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

It's always going to be fine-tuned to your own growing climate - if 1 minute is your minimum, that might be a little difficult to manage, but that's hard to tell without trying.

@kirkshea9921

Ай бұрын

3 years later is that timer still working ?

Hi, what solar power version would you recommend?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

9 ай бұрын

I don't know of anything as a out-of-the-box solution, but something like a solar power bank could sure be used to power the timer and solenoid

I want to know how that table was constructed. Perhaps there is a video about it that I've missed.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

I put together the headed bench in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZuK25h_YJm5Z6w.html

@alexmm01

3 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks. I hate Bermuda grass growing into everything I have at ground level. I will give this a shot.

The heads on the system seemed to drip alot, have you had any mold or fungal issues using it?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

None so far

I don't have a hoop house can this be done outdoors? We are in an arid climate

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Sure. It might be useful to use a lath structure for shade too.

I've got about 95% of way there, wondering about valve to hose connection - mine seems to drip. I see Teflon tape, no dope? Hand tight only? Thanks Jason

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh. I hope I'm not making a dumb comment here, but I just want to double checking that you have the right adapters in place. The hose doesn't go directly into the valve, but through a brass (or other) adapter. The valve I used is 3/4" FIPT, so it needs an adapter that goes from hose thread to 3/4" MIPT. The pipe thread connections should be okay with either teflon tape or pipe dope (I find they do roughly the same job, just one is a bit less messy) and hand tight got it leak-free for me. On the hose side of the adapter, the leaks are avoided by a hose grommet.

@joshg9143

2 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks much Jason, I ordered directly from your Amazon links. I must have overtightened initially, will try again. Thank you.

What was the brand of timer you used for this set up

@stevenrobinson982

Жыл бұрын

Never mind I found the links. I am definitely going to try this out

So the solenoid valve opens when the current is supplied and close on it's own when the power goes off? And are there any battery powered versions of this? I've seen some stuff on Amazon, but not sure if I'm seeing one that goes down to running 10 seconds every 10-15 minutes.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it turns off as soon as the power is cut. You could power a DC solenoid with a battery, so long as you brought it in to charge every so often.

@rickcastellitto979

Жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm With the timer, when I hit switch and then TimingCirculate it's already set to 1 second on and 2 seconds off by default it seems. I then change the interval to 10 seconds on and 10 minutes off. Then set the daily operation time. Then when I try to put the interval into the daily operation, it defaults back to 1 second on and 2 seconds off. Thoughts? Trying to determine if I need to return this.

@jamesbrown6866

Жыл бұрын

@@rickcastellitto979 I'm also having the same issue. Have you figured out how to solve the issue?

I'm a newbie. When trying to propagate cuttings, it's evident, one uses mist to reduce the evaporation of moisture from the plants. Just wondering - what if a person was to spray their cuttings with an anti-desiccant like "Crowning Glory" floral spray. This product is used by floral designers to retard evaporation and prolong bloom life. I don't know how long the effect would last or if it would interfere with any other process. Just wondering.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dennis. I can't give you a definitive answer because I haven't tried it in propagation. The plant science on home gardener anti-desiccant coatings is not favorable (usually for overwintering, or protecting against stress while transplanting), with studies showing more negative than positive results. But I still see that large-scale propagators of grape cuttings, for instance, dip the dormant cuttings in wax to prevent moisture loss. I'd be more likely to try it for hardwood dormant cuttings than something in active growth, because the coating seems to interfere with gas exchange.

Just hook it all up to a in-line faucet timer, no power needed, no valve needed. Only use batteries that last forever.

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Victor. My only problem with the hose-end timers is that they lack the flexibility to run short cycles (as would be appropriate for mist) within a time window. I've seen them with cycles as low as 1 minute, but for most misting applications, you'll measure the time in seconds.

@victorm7274

3 жыл бұрын

@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I guess if you need the timer to run in second . That’s makes since

Where do you buy the misters

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

Жыл бұрын

Hi Candy - I left a link in the description of the video to the Amazon shopping list I built this from.

Are we just glazing over the fact you got a new poly tunnel?

@FraserValleyRoseFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brad. Not exactly new, but I did just put down some the new groundcloth to prepare for miniature roses.

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