Lesson to Tim for future bouts, hire a good cut man.

@davidh7832

Ай бұрын

FACTS

@davidh7832

Ай бұрын

But like Stitch said , if they knew the rules , they could have got a no contest

@melindanunez9903

Ай бұрын

@@davidh7832 Again Tim is at fault for not hiring and investing in a competent team who would have wisely advised him not to continue.

@chinosolomon4746

Ай бұрын

Tims team is at fault on not hiring a good cut man.

@melindanunez9903

Ай бұрын

@@chinosolomon4746 100%, at the end of the day you get what you pay for. It’s human nature to want to lay blame elsewhere as a fan but it’s Tim’s life and career, no one forced him on any of his decisions from who he fights to who he hires. He ran into the elbow accidentally, Fundora didn’t cheat. Tim failed himself by cutting corners or inexperience. In boxing the unexpected happens, be prepared.

I wanted to hear Stitch duran's thoughts on this immediately. Great interview bro.

@millcityboxing

Ай бұрын

You welcome

@sereanaduwai8313

Ай бұрын

He is absolutely correct. The fight should have been stopped , it’s the your boxer that you must think of first. Crazy corner men. A “ cut man” is a specialist.

Tim’s corner failed him!

@gypsyman1939

Ай бұрын

💯%

@jermainebynum2647

Ай бұрын

Big time at the least he could have kept his belts either way it was good for boxing huh that's all they want high numbers

@alonsogarcia6505

Ай бұрын

After this interview, I belive so! Feel bad for Tim, he was ready. Unfortunately his corner wasn't

As an aussie it's disappointing tim lost but we're proud of him and will always support him,congratulations to fundora on a hard fought win 👏

@jblaze1336

Ай бұрын

HE WAS NOT EVER ELITE ,WHY HE LOST HES A GOOD AUSTRALIAn 😂SCRAPPER LIKE KAMBOZOS, WIL NEVER BEAT AN ELITE BLK AMERICAN

@kineahora8736

Ай бұрын

Dude Fundora didn’t “win” the fight in my opinion-he had it handed to him. I saw him fight before and he doesn’t have enough defense. Now if your opponent can’t see….

Tim was asked what he thought of the cut man work and he said no comment so I don't think he's too happy about it but it is what it is

@andresmolina5474

Ай бұрын

Duran or Capetillo are good options. I hope the injury does not reopen next fight

@kalencwil3924

Ай бұрын

@@andresmolina5474 i winder if growing his hair out might add protection

@maxfish4770

Ай бұрын

This is what happens when your promoter is an ex front rower who hires his mates

@maxfish4770

Ай бұрын

​@@kalencwil3924ha, good point. Can't be any worse with hair, maybe helps clot the bleeding too

@danielradd111

Ай бұрын

@@kalencwil3924 even with hair I think it would cut maybe not as bad though

I saw all that blood being posted up first guy I thought of was Stitch. Tim Tszyu corner may have cost him the fight. He was beating Sebastian up before the cut.

@edntz

Ай бұрын

When i saw the first 2 rounds, i thought it was the easiest fight in the world. Fundora's push jab was useless and didn't do any damage. It was slow and was getting timed and countered. He's not used to being an outfighter. But then the cut changed everything.

@2DarkHorizon

Ай бұрын

i think you are wrong when the blood wasn't over his eyes at the beginning of the rounds during the other rounds Tim didn't fight better at all.

@lachiewaterman9021

Ай бұрын

He had one way to win, counter him and he was finding his rhythm and then boom he has to wipe blood away from his eyes every few seconds and try to find the distance again. He wasn't fighting much better, but he was never able to build momentum due to vision being effected

@deezz6935

Ай бұрын

@@edntzyou know when you fight theres a chance of bleeding tim lost to a bum that nobody ever heard of 😂😂😂

@VinzkieBolivar

Ай бұрын

@@deezz6935 Well I'm pretty sure that bum will whoop your ass 100/100.

Very informative , Stich speaking knowledge like the professional he is .

Here’s a story for you all, Tim’s cut man is a Dr here on the Gold Coast, Australia and recently my mate ( Spence ) visited him to get a salt grain sized cancer removed from he’s bottom lip and the dr completely botched the surgery and has taken my mate 13 months of recovery and plastic surgery. He should have he’s license taken from him.

Damn. I wish Stitch was in Tim's corner for that fight.

@edntz

Ай бұрын

Or just someone with enough common sense to stop the fight. Stitch wouldn't have been able to stop that cut from bleeding either.

@brucewillis542

Ай бұрын

@@edntz Ah, did you not hear his words? He clearly explained that the cutman did everything wrong...forgive me, but I'm going to go with Stitch on this one, rather than yourself.

@edntz

Ай бұрын

@@brucewillis542 Did you also not listen to his own words when he said he would've stopped the fight himself? And that it was a vein that was opened and that there was no stopping it from bleeding? If you want to go with stitch, then listen to everything he said. Not just half. And whether Stitch stops the fight or someone else, the end result is the same. Can't believe you don't understand this.

@brucewillis542

Ай бұрын

@@edntz Unlike you I listened to everything he said. And, I was already aware of the rule that, when there is an accidental illegal blow that causes a cut, once 4 full rounds are completed, it can go to the scorecards - which is exactly what Duran was saying. Tim won the first 2 rounds very clearly. He also mentioned that difficulty of stopping such a deep illegal cut on the scalp, but also that the cutman in Tszyu's corner did NOT do a good job of stopping/minimising the bleeding. What he's saying is that, there were things that Duran would have done differently that would have been far more effective at stopping the bleeding and allowing Tim to fight properly. As far as I can tell, you are under the impression that the illegal elbow should have stopped the fight and automatically made Fondu the winner?

@edntz

Ай бұрын

@@brucewillis542 If you're capable of understanding english and reading comprehension, then you'd know that 1. Stitch said he would've stopped the fight. And 2. I said that it didn't matter who would've stopped the fight, because the end result is the same. Those are the facts. Now if you want to talk about how Stitch would've done a better job at treating the cut post round 4, yeah obviously. But that's not my point. Yet you failed to grasp a basic concept. Whether Stitch ends the fight, or another cornerman, it both ends the same. Therefore, whoever stops the fight in the corner, doesn't matter. As long as it gets stopped. And no, Fundora wouldn't have been declared the winner before round 4, but perhaps Tim didn't know that. So he continued fighting. Perhaps his corner didn't know that. Either way, that's on them. And has nothing to do with what i said which you replied to and failed to understand.

The team risked Tim's health, cost him the belts. Now he has no bargaining chips to garner the bigger paydays. He is now a high rish, low reward dangerous fighter.

@kalencwil3924

Ай бұрын

yeah will be tough for him now. Fundora will get the big payday now with spence or Crawford. I guess tim has to wait for another mandatory

@BrandonWilliams-jp5os

Ай бұрын

Didn’t he have a rematch clause?

@daves.9334

Ай бұрын

@@BrandonWilliams-jp5os Fundora's promoter said the rematch was verbally agreed upon. And he wants to put Fundora against Spence for a bigger payday.

@percywillis

Ай бұрын

Na. I think it makes the crawford fight easier to make. He'll lose some sleep and experience anger, but I think it will work out. If Fundora fights Spence, he will likely be stripped of WBO belt. And Crawford can fight Tszyu for the belt. The winners will likely fight for both belts. So it kinda worked out in a way.

@rudywang9948

Ай бұрын

Wasn’t it his uncle that was Tim’s trainer?

Love how he calls him Kostya! Was such a great champion boxer

@bonlives4eva

Ай бұрын

It would give Tim the shits though!

@removalman7963

Ай бұрын

Tim wouldn't like it

@Panamaniax507

Ай бұрын

Tim disagrees with you.

Didnt know about Stick Duran before this, dudes a legend and a true gentleman. Tim get this guy next time.

@JamieFromLancs

Ай бұрын

It's stitch. And you must be new to boxing if you've never heard of him before.

@TopDogToya

Ай бұрын

It’s people like you that shouldn’t be in boxing

I’ve been a boxing fan for many years and have been a faithful fan through the hard work of the KZread boxing community. I have to say you are one of the hardest working boxing media that gets the necessary interviews from those in the boxing realm that have relevant knowledge to said situation. Hats off to you. Keep it coming.

@KingzofSwing

Ай бұрын

He still would have lost he had nothing left

@edntz

Ай бұрын

@@KingzofSwing Who or what are you talking to?

Stitch we need you in Tims corner !! Great interview 🫡🥊🦘🇦🇺

They failed real bad. Once I saw that I said they have to stop the fight💯 that happens when EGO steps in

@aubreyhicks8064

Ай бұрын

💯

@maxfish4770

Ай бұрын

What is it ego or did they not know the rules. Either way is amateurish

@b4ked164

Ай бұрын

​@@maxfish4770tim refused to stop the fight he himself told the referee and doctor he wanted to continue

@maxfish4770

Ай бұрын

@b4ked164 then why did he respond with no comment when asked about it?

Wow, as fans we sit back and watch these cut men do an amazing job with the fighters, but after listening to this gentlemen explain the finer details of a of what cut men actually do, it’s incredible and my respect for them has gone to another level. Great interview, cheers.

Stitch man you deserve every dollar you get You are a blessing in for all boxers ! I always see you and as a fan I feel so comfortable you are there Protecting the interests !

Great interview, Millscity 👍

Aussies need to start making good cut men

I thought they should have stopped it before or during the 4th round. Stich is the best nobody compares.

@fearnobodyandtrustnoone

Ай бұрын

He's also fair too when it comes to his fees according to fighters income

@jeffb5785

Ай бұрын

@@fearnobodyandtrustnoone He is the guy you see everywhere but never hear from, it was great to hear from him.

@alonsogarcia6505

Ай бұрын

It could have at least been a no contest. So much respect for stich...

@jeffb5785

Ай бұрын

@@alonsogarcia6505I totally agree

@jamespeterson4007

Ай бұрын

Bullshit! Don’t forget Bob Ware!

I agree Tim's corner failed tim

@lightships11

Ай бұрын

Tim's team failed him the moment they decided to fight fundora on 2 weeks notice after the Thurman pull out, the arrogance and over confidence of his handlers has come home to roost they should of stopped the fight in 4 rounds and went to the score cards Tim would of kept the belts clearly Tim could only see out of 1 eye what a stupid reckless risk by his team to keep boxing absolute donkey's should all be sacked because now Tim is not the one walking away with the win just a bunch of losers hanging around him including his foul mouth girlfriend

As a student who training to be ringside physician definitely would’ve stop it sorry fans fighters safety first

I love boxing, the art of the sport, but I don't go balls deep with all the knowledge that Fight fans have today of everyone & everything. So this to me is extremely informative. Excellent interview & great insight with a man who's obviously had an unbelievable career at the top. Devastating for Tim. He didn't deserve to go out like that. Fighting blind for 10 rounds is phukd up. Seriously can't believe your fighter's making his long a waited Vegas debut & your corners sittin there with sticky tape & bubble gum. WTF!?

Excellent piece on boxing. Very informative and satisfying due to the expertise of the guest. Keep it up. A pleasure.

The cut is to bad, it should be stopped, Tim teams were failed maybe because of ego. Safety and health of boxers must on priority.

One of my favorite interviews thus far

Great interview. We don’t usually hear from this side of boxing. This guy has a PHD on the science of cuts. #StitchDuran #BestInTheBusiness

How have i never heard of you? Good job with the interview i'm subbing.

The interview I wanted to see!!!!

I said to my cousin while watching this fight that they needed stich duran in their corner.

@danielsmart8398

Ай бұрын

Nothing was stopping the bleeding mate, that cut was on the crown of the head

@edntz

Ай бұрын

@@danielsmart8398 Yet Stitch said he would've stopped the fight, similar how he stopped it with klitchko. So with Stitch in Tim's corner, it would've been ruled a No Contest and then have a rematch a few months later.

Awesome interview

Fundura should take Tyzu corner out to dinner

@rugus722

Ай бұрын

😂

This was very educational on what cutan and corners do in boxing matches . Thanks Mills💪🏾👊🏿

@edntz

Ай бұрын

Most corners nowadays are just a bunch of yes men, cheerleaders and people stealing money from a fighter. Usually ''friends'' and what not. Stitch at least knows the craft.

hope Tim see this next fight bro You the man he needs

As a aussie Tim done us proud, well done fundora nothing can be taken away from him he worked his height threw his jab alright at times but it wasn't snapping them but it did its job and he captalised on the situation that's what boxing is about personally i think if that cut doesn't happen Tim Tszyu wins but who knows REMATCH IS A MUST!!

@Eezzy108

Ай бұрын

He won’t get a rematch Tim and his team showed that they are well below elite level To be fair it was a total embarrassment, a sham and showed Tim and his team are low level domestic material

@mitch20003

Ай бұрын

? What ​@@Eezzy108

@maxfish4770

Ай бұрын

His team yes, Tim no hes world class.​@Bambamboliaghori

@natejohnson5767

Ай бұрын

​@Bambamboliaghori casual alert 🚨

@WoollytheWriter

Ай бұрын

Yeah Aussie s definitely take a victory home. Great performance.

Stitch, amazing to hear from you. So insightful and genuine. I'm glad to hear you're willing to teach younger generations the ways, it's an unfortunate phenomenon that so much old wisdom is being lost in trades and artisan professions due to an unwillingness from people to pass the knowledge down - being a cutman, to me, is a combination of both of these. Your expertise should command a price that is commensurate with your expertise - how would anyone be able to be good at what they do if they don't value their own skills, as you're no doubt very aware of this. Thanks for the words in this interview, they were incredibly insightful, not just in the world of boxing, but in regards to the skilled old-boys everywhere.

Yeah they did a horrible job on his cut And didn't even wipe the blood off of his face with the towel

@krishnawainright15

Ай бұрын

They wiped it but the Blood would Not Stop.

@derek6929

Ай бұрын

When this guy talks you listen.

@19ish68

Ай бұрын

I was about to type but first reply said it already

Tim's corner had the opportunity to have the fight stopped before the end of fourth round and it would have gone to the scorecards. They said they could control the cut and the rest is history

Good points by stitch. Here is something to consider though. Tim reportedly made 10 million. And launched a powerful new network that is absolutely loaded with money that being Amazon prime. He was their first high-profile Main event. And he is aware of the warrior Spirit and the entertainment value. And they just did not think of packing it in they went the other direction and thought what can we do to win this fight. It actually ended up being a good fight he lost. But I don't think his stock went too far down. I think this event would have been seen as an absolutely dismal failure had it been packed in after three rounds. I believe all of that factored in. That it wasn't just about getting a quick win but they were aware of the magnitude of the event and the network and they wanted to fight and not pack it in.

STICH ! 💯They looked like novices in the Tszyu corner

Tim should never have any of the corner men that let him fight after that 4th round allow them to work in his corner again it's sad that they let him bleed like that always think about the boxer's health before anything else

@Abstract.Noir414

Ай бұрын

Now yall want to show 🙄 concern for health?

100% failure ☹️. I was surprised the doctor let the fight go on when he saw it in the 2nd, would have been a no contest

@jesusisking8502

Ай бұрын

Watch it again, that Doctor was paid off FOR SURE. When he first looks at the cut he just shakes his head in shock, then he waves it on!

bro goosen ( ex coach ) said it a lot " I would've stopped the cut" "they dont have the right medicine ".and this man is the best so yeah Tim needs a new cut guy

@dlowvala1683

Ай бұрын

That's a gash not a cut would have stopped the gash from gushing. .

Great interview

@millcityboxing

Ай бұрын

Thank u

Great work mate 👍

Fondora was hurt as well, looked like his nose was broken, but no one is talking about that, and who's to say that Tim didn't want to continue

I like how Stitch doesn't charge 4-6-8 round fighters. He doesn't have to help them. He can simply only work for big paychecks on title fights. But he seems to enjoy what he does. That's cool. Of course he should charge premium for his services. He has earned it and a good cutman can literally save someone from losing and have their career derailed. Reminds me of when Mike Tyson got rid of his cutman vs the douglas fight because Don King wanted to save money, thinking it would be an easy fight. They didn't even bring ice.

Timing 💯

What's up Primo Stitch? Salute to you bro from Coachella!

Both fighters are warriors.

They shuda just stopped it & go to the score cards or declare no contest. Then do a rematch in 3 months

Damn now Tims cutman is gonna reply with a Beef dvd video about Duran the cutman

Even joe goosen was adamant that the cut man was doing it all wrong lmao

In conclusion, Hire the best Cut Man!

I would love to meet Stitch Duran because there's a lot of knowledge there

AWESOME.

They even tried tape lol . I thought they were going to try a bicycle patch next

Amazing the fight was that close on points given Tszyu wouldve been half blinded from the blood.

Nate Diaz price goes up. lol. that's a canvas of Cuts.

After seeing the cut in real time, first thing I thoight is to call the fight. However, Tim's corner listened to the fighters ego, instead of looking out for there fighter.

Jacob 'Stitch' Duran, comes off as a honest professional.

@jeremyshewell2445

Ай бұрын

Agreed .

This guy reminds me of Geraldo Rivera 😂😂😂😂😂

@LochTaupo

Ай бұрын

Yes and Edward James Olmos, the actor from Mayans.

@edntz

Ай бұрын

But actually someone with real talent and a better personality.

Yup, that's what I thought too. And they ought to be using better thicker gloves and headgear to protect fighters. .

the fasion in hes loss is better than win for hes career. if he stopped fundora in the 5th for example. but in 20 years people will rememeber the tzuyu bloodbath

You ain’t stopping the first Amazon ppv fight , the mistake was the manager accepting a short notice fight with a 6”6 opponent

@sonofapollo5892

Ай бұрын

I agree ☝🏽

@edntz

Ай бұрын

Fundora wasn't the problem. 6ft6 wasn't the problem. Tim was dominating. Would've been an easy fight without the cut.

I'm a believer now! in good cutmen!!!!!!!

Stitch always appears as such a genuine dude. I’ve always respected his opinions & as always his knowledge & experience shows. Wish he was in Tim’s corner vs Fundora. Hindsight is a biatch but I Hope Tim’s team sees this & most importantly LEARN from it 🙏🏽 Great interview 👍🏽

@edntz

Ай бұрын

Tim's boxing skills and courage is top tier. He will come back stronger if he doesn't get discouraged. He just needs a better corner. Fire all those people.

No doubt about it. Tim's corner looked like a bunch of amateurs. It wasn't just the cut man, though, it was his whole team. I understand Tim is a warrior, but as a team, you're supposed to have Tim's best interest.

@b4ked164

Ай бұрын

Someone made a mistake but most of Tim's team are the exact same team Tim's dad kostya used they have over 20 years experience

The fight should have been stopped and called a no contest for and accidental elbow and due to the severity and placement of the cut as it also hampered his vision with the blood getting in his eyes...and also the amount of blood lose would have zapped alot of energy aswell..that was a big disadvantage for tim

Factsssss

Great content 👌 Mill city out here out working alot of these content creators keep working My guy💯💯💯🥊🥊🥊🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷

great cut man

💯

What a great guy Stitch Duran is, nobody like the best.

What I’m not hearing is the fact that Fundora struggled with issues from round 2. Let’s remember that jab, intelligent and discipline Fundora displayed.

@edntz

Ай бұрын

Fundora's jab was awful. Slow push jab, Didn't inflict any damage. And was getting timed and countered. He needs to work on it more.

Also, whoever did the stitches for that cut did a bad job because Tim was still bleeding in his post fight interview.

100% the Fight should have been a NC.... What's wrong with corner, Ref & medic...???

Who else thought they got a message from their mom and hector😂

He should’ve used Bob Ware. Best cut man out there!

He called Tim Kostya ☺️

The doctor also failed

I swear im watching the the Oldman/butcher from The Mayans : Edward James Olmos. Tim adding new training exercise this week with Mr Miyagi : catching flies with chop sticks , blind folded.

You should start a school stitch. So many coaches will sign up and pay. It doesn't even have to be all year around. You could do it for 7 days but your knowledge is necessary to give out to as many coaches as possible. Love you stitch

Dang I thought my mom texted me and Hector…I was wondering who the f is Hector 🤔😂😂

Honestly is small Bandages not allowed in boxing or other combat sports.

Edward James olmos look a like and voice is similar too lol 😂

If Stitch Duran says they should have stopped the fight, then they should have stopped the fight. Period.

Long arms sharp elbows. But tim be back learn i rekon. N cheers to fundora.

They ended up controlling Yoka's cut against Estrada. The cut is not why she lost. Tim? His cut was more severe. He made no excuses. He was a real man about it. Props to him.

Spoken from the Goats mouth......

The thing with cutmen, is there is no certification path as Stitch says. All you need is a towel on your shoulder- at least Tim Tszyu's guy had a towel (but not much else unfortunately) !

Lesson for the future

The list goes on with fighters doing good until an accidental head butt. Tim Tszyu had no idea this could happen, and the furthest thing from his mind when he entered the ring. The incident was a strange one, whereas Tim threw a left, just a split second before the bell rang, right at exactly 7 minutes into the fight he swung a small left and like fell forward right into Fundora, who bent forward with arms bent up to protect himself as Tim for some strange reason dropped his head down as he fell forward, like a trip or off balance. It was a strange move right as the bell rang his head crashed into Fundora's midsection where his elbows were protecting him from the head coming in. Yes, I guess they could have stopped the fight, but Tim didn't know better either he wanted to fight, he even bullshitted the ref a bit so it could continue. The flip side is the people found out really how vicious Fundora is. He is a serious combatant, that actually knows his craft, and is a pure warrior, he was also banged up and hurt, but he got it on, and took control. Yes as Tim said the better man won, it was not his night.

The fight could have been stopped due to the cut! His corner should have pushed for the stoppage and it was totally justifiable! They could have saved Tim bleeding 6 senseless rounds!!!

HUGE HUGE MISTAKE SMH THE OUTCOME WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SMH

@millcityboxing

Ай бұрын

Facts bro they messed up my bet

Real recognize real !!! Stitch is that guy for sure his transparency ,confidence and experience are mandatory for top level boxers mfkrs loosing there belts they might not ever get back for penny’s on the dollar smh

Stich hell of a cut man. He is right. 💯 percent. Fight should have been stopped

How about Fundora cut man. Fundora was bleeding also with a broken nose

@edntz

Ай бұрын

Fundora got cut by punches. That's the difference. Props to him for fighting on though.

@michaelthomas2682

Ай бұрын

Blood doesn't travel up hill!

I don't think Tim's corner failed him. The cut was extremely deep and difficult for any cut man to control. Tim also contributed to getting himself cut too, he kept leading with his head and basically ran right into the elbow while Fundora was blocking for an anticipated overhand.

Stitch Duran is the Man...