TIM BRADLEY REWATCHES HANEY VS. LOMACHENKO & HAS SECOND THOUGHTS; GIVES HANEY HIS FLOWERS ON WIN
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FightHype’s Sean Zittel recently caught up with Hall of Famer Tim Bradley, who had a lot to say about undisputed lightweight king Devin Haney defeating former champion Vasiliy Lomachenko. You don’t want to miss what went down. Check it out!
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This fight taught me that there r more casual fans in boxing than i thought. That fight was very close and could've went to Loma as well. But people want to label this a robbery... Thats insane.
@J.dub.3
Жыл бұрын
I think that’s a part of it. Another problem is announcers like Tim Bradley. I will say that the rounds Loma won were more decisive than the rounds Haney won. Still 7-5 Haney. Great fight.
@DOUGHGON
Жыл бұрын
1,000,000 % . They act like 116-112 is a travesty, but it’s literally 1 swing rd. Basic boxing knowledge and rule of thumb says the CHAMPION, especially the undisputed champion will get an extremely close rd🤷🏾. The official scorecard shows each judge saw the fight different or was looking for different things. There’s rds Dev clearly won that was given to Loma by the other judges like he gave the 10th to Haney. The fact of the matter is even Loma’s best rds the 10th & 11th Dev finished those rds stronger than Loma. Haney could’ve made this an easier fight by fighting off the back foot. He had tons of success when chose to do that, instead he gave the people what they wanted by choice and still gets hate. They would’ve been crying had he boxed all night to a victory. Lastly, the narrative that it was only the body shots is ridiculous unless Loma face is a lie
@MillieArt2124_
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!
@Goodgunplay
Жыл бұрын
@@DOUGHGONThat’s exactly what I said 1 or 2 swing rounds in a close fight. It could’ve fell either way. You can’t have a robbery in a fight this close.
@joedoggie9098
Жыл бұрын
fight wasnt close , stop with this chit,i have been scoring fights for 50 years, so I am far from casual, 8-4 loma for fun. Boxing is fixed as all sports are.
From the jump the crowd were not fkin with Haney, he was landing some beautiful body shots and it was crickets in the crowd, soon as Loma threw a punch they all went crazy even when he hit nothing. Crowd was against Haney from the pre fight push and were with Loma for a bunch of obvious reasons including the political situation back home. To have so many people shouting robbery it utter BS. With so many calling it different right there you know it had to be a close fight.
@Emmanuel7lion
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯..
@bola6408
Жыл бұрын
You are spot on bro.
@kennymichaelalanya7134
Жыл бұрын
F all that. I wanna see Tank vs Devin Haney now
@mohammedcapal6036
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@byus6928
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWVpyrhwmM20Z7w.html what body shots? lol clown
All the Commentators were fan boys for Loma that night. Bradley is one of his biggest cheerleaders.
@Medrano15
Жыл бұрын
Biggest cheerleader 😂watch teofimo and loma and how they favored loma that night,it’s because that paycheck was under the table………….loma threw 2 punches against Teo and they were all over the place,once Teo hit loma with everything they wouldn’t say nothing.check that fight out again and you’ll know what I’m talking about
@emperorwalker
Жыл бұрын
All Facts💯
@DOUGHGON
Жыл бұрын
Bradley is disgusting and is trying to save face now. They created the bs robbery narrative
@dominicshrivers8840
Жыл бұрын
And he on here trying to defend himself 😭
@dnzwill
Жыл бұрын
I thought Andre Ward was the only giving Haney credit. Otherwise man ESPN loves Lomachenko.
Please do not encourage anyone to stop watching boxing when you got a weird decision against Manny & then actually expounded the propaganda that Jeff defeated Manny in Australia. You were a solid champion but your ring analysis are so overtly biased.
Timothy almost got fired had to change his mind on the fight 😂
@deeswagg21
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe he just rewatched the fight and seen the effective body work and hooks 😂 y’all just go off 2 dominant rounds by loma
@pbc4936
Жыл бұрын
@@deeswagg21 Loma clearly won 3,4,5,9,10,11.... That's already 6 rounds.... Rounds 6-7-8 we're all draws... Round 1 they landed the same amount.... THIS SEPARATES THE MEN FROMS THE BOYS !!! & THERE'S A BUNCH OF LITTLE BOYS RIDING HANEY LIKE HE WASNT GETTING HIS ASS SOCKED ON LEFT AND RIGHT
@BrokenCulture
Жыл бұрын
@@deeswagg21 Facts! Bradley called a horrible fight and his co-host clearly Haney won
@Dareal5lime
Жыл бұрын
@@pbc4936 first comment I seen that makes sense
@deeswagg21
Жыл бұрын
@@pbc4936 lmao loma didn’t win 3 at all he won 4 …haney was smothering him and going to the body the first 3 so loma was missing …then he landed the straight in 4 then Haney fought off the back foot and won 5,6 those the rounds he landed the big hooks up top like how he got off the ropes …then his dad told him press forward again and he did ….loma won 8 9 10 11 and lost 12 ….it was 7-5
The second and third time I watched the fight I noticed that Loma threw a lot of punches but he missed a lot. Even the commentators were calling punches he missed as scoring.
@lifelinefitness1
Жыл бұрын
Like the guy saying Loma could stop Dev if he pressed him 🤦🏽♂️
@Lurkartiist
Жыл бұрын
I noticed that first go round . Loma would throw like 5-6 punch combos and only land 1 or 2 but the crowd was going crazy for him. Haney would land solid 1,2 combos in FULL and crowd would be quiet . Bias against Haney is strong
@slxdragon
Жыл бұрын
Props to you for admitting it and noticing it when watching the rematch. But why couldn't you notice it during the actual fight live? This was the problem for many people, that they were too easily influenced by the commentators and crowd.
@DJ-kb3pl
Жыл бұрын
@@slxdragon I saw the misses live and knew the commentary was going to be biased before the 1st bell. They tried the same Tom Foolery throughout Manny Pacquio’s career and only true heads knew the hype.
@mayjaaudio6539
Жыл бұрын
A lot of the shit Haney was throwing was missing to. Bottom line Haney is good but not great the way y’all prop him up. He better run and vacate them titles because Shakur and tank is going to embarrass him.
I didn't have to watch this fight twice to see Haney winning, no bias, no dog's in the fight, just a fan of the sweet science... I disagreed with the way the judges called certain rounds, but the unanimous decision was the right call. Even if it were judged a split decision, it still should've been a split decision for Haney. I believe everyone wanted to see Loma win, because of the way Haney acted towards him leading up to the fight, emitions were obviously high. Which is the reason why it's harder for a lot of people to accept, this and the fact that everyone roots against the "bad" guy.. And for all the new Loma fans, this isn't the first fight he's clearly lost, but felt he won. Teo beat him in a close fight as well, this fight in my opinion was easier to judge.
@jandro8370
11 ай бұрын
Same. I lost faith in Tim Bradley aftet that fight. I'm like this man needs glasses. Like the worst commentating I've ever heard In a big fight. He redeemed himself a little here but the whole robbery thing is basically his fault. When casuals watch a fight they don't know what they are watching. They are counting on the commentators to tell them what they are watching.
I rewatched it aswell and it wasn’t that hard to score Haney won without a doubt. Loma had his moments but that’s all it was moments.
@DOUGHGON
Жыл бұрын
In boxing it’s called shoe shining and Loma didn’t fight an entire rd the entire fight. He fought in spurts. I’m not the only one who saw that. Props
@jsphlml
Жыл бұрын
Haney gets a draw BEST CASE SCENARIO. Y’all gotta come to the backwaters of KZread to find mfs who agree with you.
@Kendkend
Жыл бұрын
How about you just listen to Tim Bradley, the pro.
@Amber-tx8nv
Жыл бұрын
Bro Haney had moments as well. This was a high level chess match. Even in the first half, it was competitive and back and forth….
@shitface60644
Жыл бұрын
Haney smoked him
7-5 Haney on the first watch. 7-5 Haney on the second watch. I gave Loma 3-4, 7, 10-11 on my initial watch. If you don’t score the fight as you watch, with a notebook you can’t talk robbery. Bc all close fights will be robbery when emotion is involved
@AboriginalIndengenous
Жыл бұрын
Me too exactly the same!
@thomascrown6553
Жыл бұрын
Wow somebody knows what their talking bout
@ernestomejia8837
Жыл бұрын
I saw it very similar. round one was close too. could have gone either way, people must be new to watching boxing.
@lifeisartTV
Жыл бұрын
This is it!!!! This right here!! 7-5 which is very close. People think 7-5 is a blow out. Hell take away 1 round and you at 6-6. CAsuals doing the most barking
@tadpeezy615
Жыл бұрын
I gave Loma 3,4,10, and 11
I rewatched it… I got 7-5 devin. Saturday night I thought loma won. But after the rewatch it made more sense
@kharijackson1433
Жыл бұрын
Me too bro
@pbc4936
Жыл бұрын
Rewatch it again mf. Loma clearly won 3,4,5,9,10,11 . Round 1 they landed the same amount so that's 7 rounds Loma... Rounds 6-7-8 all draws... TF YOU LOOKIN AT??? ARE YOU ACTUALLY SCORING
@elimannan1983
Жыл бұрын
1-4 Haney for sure 5 Loma 6 toss up round - might give to Haney off Loma being inactive 7- Loma 8 - Loma 9 - Haney 10 - Loma 11 - Loma 12 - Haney
@pbc4936
Жыл бұрын
@@elimannan1983 again how does Haney win round 1 when THEY SCORED THE SAME AMOUNT ?????????????? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE !!!! & LOMA CLEARLY WON ROUND 3-4. He's the smarter boxer. The better boxer. Period.
@knotes1014
Жыл бұрын
Loma had more punches that shocked Devin Haney, I feel like loma should’ve won because loma punches were cleaner solid and more shocking and effective, Devin threw some great body punches but didn’t really faze loma which why I think loma should’ve gotten the win.
Salute to Tim for actually going back and watching the fight like the rest of y’all need to do😭
@Unknown-fu
Жыл бұрын
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@ANTAGONISTKING
Жыл бұрын
Watched again three times😂🤷🏿♂️
@wushulion
Жыл бұрын
1) there's at leat 4 videos on youtube with punch counters and freeze frames on all 150+ landed punches. Generally it's around 90-102 punches landed by Loma vs 40-50 by haney. 2) most of those haney body punches were blocked but he likes to make those "onts onts onts!" noises to make them look better than they were. 3) not to mention those elbows by haney, it's no wonder he was projecting the 'dirty fighter' crap to loma now who's paying tim and how much? kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWVpyrhwmM20Z7w.html&ab_channel=ArtoriasBoxing
@ashtinoak
Жыл бұрын
Facts 7-5 Haney lol
@paulclancy2404
11 ай бұрын
Yea me too you can do 6 6 too
I did same...I watched live in bar and text my friend Loma won 115-113....I starting hearing about body shots, counters, etc...rewatched and I saw a ton of body shots and hook counters and I have it for Haney 115-113.
@mauricejohnson136
Жыл бұрын
I AGREE 👍
@iserved8840
Жыл бұрын
So you didn’t see them body shots Devin was landing when you 1st watched the fight or you didn’t know that body shots count towards winning a round?!
@gunfu4481
Жыл бұрын
I've watched it 3 times. Once in slow motion with a pause on every shot landed. Lomachenko landed twice as many clean shots.
@charmcompassion9199
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 💯
@charmcompassion9199
Жыл бұрын
@@gunfu4481 You forgot to mention that Haney s body shots attack on your king Loma!!
This lets me know my eye for boxing is elite ...i saw in real time what many experts had to rewatch to see
@trapsoulproductions8915
Жыл бұрын
Its different watching a fight live. It confuses you when the crowd scream everytime their guy lands a shot
@TheWheelsOnTheRideGo
Жыл бұрын
@@trapsoulproductions8915 shit I put it on mute after the 6th.
@gottgaame
Жыл бұрын
Oh brother lol
@muskalade85
Жыл бұрын
You saw 7-5 Loma? Because that's what the score was
@cartiershades3392
Жыл бұрын
W as usual brother, I’ll attest to that. Always on point!
Sometimes it just takes people to go back review the fight again, and they're going to see things they missed the first time.
@caleb6590
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@UnKnown-nq5hj
Жыл бұрын
Not me, I pay attention 👀
@clubfillerspinkknickers9791
Жыл бұрын
Loma won end of and paulie malignaggi exposed bob arum who re signed haney 2 days before the fight that's all you need to know clear robbery
@Mikeybmvp2006
Жыл бұрын
The ninja turtle was sitting right there at ring side
@REAL-ow3nu
Жыл бұрын
@@clubfillerspinkknickers9791 silly
This video was an A+++++ break down. Emotionless, just a logical, unbiased,and technical breakdown. LOVE the part about why the Lomachenko left hand kept landing and why Haney couldn’t get out of the way. Love hearing fighters and trainers break those things down.
@christianbozwell4981
Жыл бұрын
I love how Devin body punches were landing and Lomachenko couldn't get out the way.
@hebisty4163
Жыл бұрын
@@christianbozwell4981half true more like he couldn't get IN. Everytime loma tries to step inside... haney threw to the body to occupy the space on the outside of his right foot... which is where a southpaw wants to be. Very smart from haney.
@christianbozwell4981
Жыл бұрын
@@hebisty4163 Yes sir
@Pk54320
Жыл бұрын
No he actually changed his mind because espn was going to fire him!
@quique1208hernandez
Жыл бұрын
Did he rewatch those rabbit punches and elbows to Lomachenko's face?
I think people just wanted Lomachenko to win and the fact that he was more active in the rounds that he won, which is why the punch stats were in Lomachenko’s favor. You can’t say a guy won a fight because he looked better in the 5 rounds he won. Haney still won 7 of those rounds. Just because a guy got wobbled in one round doesn’t mean that guy that landed a big punch won the fight or won more rounds.
@waynemichaeljohnston
Жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@arod1766
Жыл бұрын
That’s why many people that bet and said Haney would win , even his friends, said Alina won? It’s bs justification. Lima won easy
@geralddavis1470
Жыл бұрын
Just a thought, Well Loma got the nod over Jermaine Ortiz and he was ronbbed and what no one complained!
@dontever8341
Жыл бұрын
Just watch the video by Artorias Boxing on the fight, very accurate to what happened in the fight and the punches that actually landed and did not bounce off of gloves or arms, don't forget Haney's back shots. Camera's and the speed these fighters are going at is deceiving. Loma didn't just look better, he was better, betting odds kept the corrupt commission from providing Loma the win, he was the underdog and they would have heavy revenue losses if he won. Not to mention Haney is the younger fighter. People making excuses for the corrupt judging decisions will keep these turds fixing fights and making money more money off the audience and ruining fighters hard work. Not to mention turning others away from participating and viewing the sport because of corrupt decisions like this.
@bbo4033
Жыл бұрын
You can't get active for the last 30 seconds of a round that you lose, and dominate the rounds that you win, and think you won a 3 minute/12 round fight. That's just not boxing. People would rather see head shots than body blows though, so I get it. But look at Loma's face. There were definitely some face shots
Haney won. He looked even MORE impressive when I watched it the 2nd time!
@arc0592
Жыл бұрын
Of course you think so 🖤
@mrjamesgrimes
Жыл бұрын
🌚
@desotohybrid2175
Жыл бұрын
@@arc0592 and of course u think Loma won...never seen so many cry over a fight 😂...y'all's God lost bro...he didn't do enough...simple...17-3 😂
@kamfisher1714
Жыл бұрын
@@arc0592 Go watch blood in blood out 💚
@richwise7935
Жыл бұрын
Also ppl don’t understand that you have to take the Belt. Not draw or barely maybe won. You have beat the champion convincingly to take undisputed smh what boxing 🥊 change ? Robbery where
I thought the fight was close, could’ve even been a draw. I also thought the commentators were calling everything including misses for Loma . That’s a big reason why the story stuck so quick.
@charmcompassion9199
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@opgam3r482
Жыл бұрын
Your not wrong, but they were also missing scores from *both fighters during their long monologues... I love the production out of ESPN but shorter "boxing lessons" and more commentary from Tim and Dre... If you forget about the flurry's that were not clean... look at what scored... I think it was enough, but congrats to Haney...
@lamarwalker9793
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly wat they were doing
@TheMoronSlayer
Жыл бұрын
Everyone but Ward.
@kingreese7151
Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought Loma was missing a lot
I watched the fight 4 times and I still say Haney win a very very tight fight. Ithink Haney pulled it out by two points. He needed the last round to avoid a draw
@terrybradshaw6036
Жыл бұрын
I am about to watch it again I thought Loma but we will see but that was probably the only intelligent comment well put and either way that to me may have been the greatest fight I've ever seen in terms of technical and just all around great boxing by both men
@gamitgambles
Жыл бұрын
I don't really like Haney and actually wanted Loma to win but I actually have Haney winning just by the last round.
@jamiethomas5849
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. All this robbery talk is crazy to me. Hell by the time it got to round 9 I had already given Devin 6 rounds. Loma took over late but then obviously lost the 12th 🤷🏾♂️
@smookie2351
Жыл бұрын
@@terrybradshaw6036 i said exact same as you man. Loma never won. Last round could have got the draw but Loma lost it. Camt belive so many ppl saying was a robbery. Lol
@joemonteleonezollo4967
Жыл бұрын
Haney can't crack an egg. Lomo rocked him , end of story and desiding factor.
Bradley was going crazy for Loma only 😂 the whole fight
@hoosiernative9668
Жыл бұрын
Everybody was crowd and commentators were biased.
@swizzy4252
Жыл бұрын
He had me tight.
@1djvibe
Жыл бұрын
I agree* And everything loma did the crowd screamed like he was doing something so spectacular (pitty patting someone in the head in the sport of boxing is a horrible tactic to use [[[Like wtf is that🥶
@thebossman4875
Жыл бұрын
Apparently he was predicting the future
@704JOE
Жыл бұрын
I SA DOES A GOOD JOB MASSA
I rewatched it twice Haney won. It was a very close fight respect to Loma he is a warrior.
@user-xy9sy4oi5x
Жыл бұрын
H Dummyh boxing channel and all the old drunk, addicts, sherm heads, all on the channel mad Devin and Bill won, they soo maddd and I love it, sissy southpaw tv madddd, I love it.
@kevinmckay2483
Жыл бұрын
I rewatched it myself and Loma definitely won 🤷🏽♂️💯
Bro I'm speechless. I never expected for him to come back and tell the truth
@b_a_dos
Жыл бұрын
Same.
@KA-kp3rb
Жыл бұрын
Because he was getting a lot of heat online for his biased commentary
@brettstewart8765
Жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@Bullleek2020
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@loski7758
Жыл бұрын
Facts
Now Tim has a very good analysis. I also thought Haney lost after watching live, but after review, i felt i was unfair for Haney, and i would have protested the decision. Those judges were good man....those combinations of Loma were missing some of them, after Haney had thrown a couple of good ones. Haney clearly won the fight, Loma team wont win the appeal, i would advise them to let it lie, rather think about a rematch. I think Haney would win it also too.
@D.Antony
Жыл бұрын
Excellent post. Couldn't have stated it better myself.
@DOUGHGON
Жыл бұрын
Majority of the people who have rewatched the fight has the same sentiment. Haney deserves a lot of respect in general for the road he’s taken in his career and so does his father. That’s not even including this fight. The entire fight buildup was aimed at discrediting him if he wins from the beginning.
@WarrenKirkpatrick
Жыл бұрын
It can’t be a close fight but then say Haney clearly won… good judges??? 2 scored fairly, but 116-112… is hardly friggin fair.. I’ve rewatched the fight 3 times, I still get 7-5 loma, some of the close rounds, I’m looking at who was mainly dominating, I see loma dominating more than Haney, tbh, I think a rematch is needed to sort this out. Never seen the boxing community largely divided like this. but your judge moretti is not a good man…
@richardfalle3273
Жыл бұрын
@@WarrenKirkpatrick same. If you see it another way you need to get new glasses.
@vuribo5815
Жыл бұрын
HANEYS "BODY SHOTS" WERE LANDING ON LOMAS ELBOW.
That’s why I like to watch fights with no commentary!! Bcuz listening to the commentators can sway your feelings on what’s really going on. Also you always have to rewatch close fights you can’t just go off the feelings while it’s live things look alot different when you go back and rewatch more often than not‼️
@joedoggie9098
Жыл бұрын
laughable comment wow, just wow, Ward and Bradley are racist as puck??? They favour the black EVERY FKN FIGHT,do you actually follow boxing on ESPN????????? Ya it could sway all right , for the black man only, and also Kellerman has wanted to be black for the last 20 years, please take him.
@wushulion
Жыл бұрын
1) there's at leat 4 videos on youtube with punch counters and freeze frames on all 150+ landed punches. Generally it's around 90-102 punches landed by Loma vs 40-50 by haney. 2) most of those haney body punches were blocked but he likes to make those "onts onts onts!" noises to make them look better than they were. 3) not to mention those elbows by haney, it's no wonder he was projecting the 'dirty fighter' crap to loma kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWVpyrhwmM20Z7w.html&ab_channel=ArtoriasBoxing
During the fight, it sounded very biased. And it could have been due to coincidence but that doesn’t negate the fact that the commentary was very Pro Loma and often times y’all were speaking during a lot of Devins work in the first half of the fight. So the fans that were watching the fight were led to believe that Loma was dominating some of those rounds that were close or that he loss
@ashtinoak
Жыл бұрын
Facts even the crowd was biased and that's suppose to be a home fight for Haney that's crazy
@theflockofyahministries5095
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY 💯
@Mike-hy8cs
Жыл бұрын
I rewatched it slowed it down and i can without a doubt say haney won 8-4. He landed more effective punches than loma did more consistently. A lot of lomas shots werent damaging he was throwing a lot of pitty pat punches to score points which he still missed a lot of those flurries he threw. He would throw 6 punches and land 1 or 2. 8-4 or 7-5 haney is fine no robbery was done here.
@raider_reaper_4194
Жыл бұрын
I literally just rewatched it and the first 5 rounds Bradley was slobbering on Haneys .... In the second half his tone changed as Loma beat the shit out of Haney. Stop the Uncle Tom racist shit just cuz another black man doesn't agree with you
@No85Limits
Жыл бұрын
watch the live moneyline movement during the fight - loma was a 2 to 1 underdog ... was a 5 to 1 favorite going into the 12th. If the bookies have loma that heavy a favorite going into the last round... Haney needed a knockdown at the very least
I can clearly see that the Crowd favors Loma but Haney won
@jflip31
Жыл бұрын
Loma won, stop it
@shawnthomas7318
Жыл бұрын
@@jflip31 : Overrated Loma won nothing 😭😭 . Who has the belts ? 😢😂
@adonisjay7720
Жыл бұрын
Well said. Haney clearly won the fight
@jflip31
Жыл бұрын
@@shawnthomas7318 u right Loma was robbed
@shawnthomas7318
Жыл бұрын
@@jflip31 The right man won which was Haney . He keeps the belts .Get over it it's over 😔😳
Devin's push of Loma at the weigh-in made him a villain, the majority of the fans turned their back on him hence their reaction somehow influenced the view of many people because they reacted to everything Loma did even if he swing and miss the crowd could go crazy, however the judges could not be influenced. I'm surprised how people are screaming "robbery" I think people are extremely abusing the word, how can a fight that close be called a robbery?
@hoosiernative9668
Жыл бұрын
They call it a robbery cuz that’s how they feel loosing all their money on bets. That’s the real reason people are mad. Cuz the fight was close but I saw Haney wining. Most of lomas furries didn’t land and when they did they didn’t have any power behind them. It’s only till Haney got tired that the shots started to have and effect but People also have to remember close swing rounds always go to the champion. Loma didn’t do enough.
@tommydenato8863
Жыл бұрын
"the judges could not be influenced". You dizzier than Biden.
@InsiJuice
Жыл бұрын
bruh, most of the people have a bet on haney, why would they want him to lose? - not to mention that 116-112, man GTFOH
@anfgrindtv805
Жыл бұрын
Tripe Facts!!!!
@emperorwalker
Жыл бұрын
All Facts💯
7 5 Haney had it that from the End.
Everybody reacted too emotionally, haney is still undisputed for a reason.
@ddonvrgas4228
Жыл бұрын
That reason is robbery
@williaml9445
Жыл бұрын
I rematched it and I got 115 to 113 for lomachenko. Haney lost
@SoOriginal89
Жыл бұрын
Glad people, even the pros, are starting to come back to their senses. The problem is the fanboys. I appreciate BOTH fighters. The fanboys are calling robbery sounding like casual bozos.
@JCMthebrand
Жыл бұрын
Because that’s the era we live in
@JCMthebrand
Жыл бұрын
@@williaml9445 gotcha, give me the round by round
Thank You @Sean. @TimBradley Preach That Game. When all comes down to it, When you're on the ropes go all out, Do A Little More Than The Next MAN!;!!
I'm already done with the score debate, but I like Tim's explanation of how difficult this match was to judge. If we can move on from this idea of a controversy, maybe we can start giving credit for the hard work that both guys put in. I mean, that was an immense effort from both sides to keep things going like that for 12 rounds. Such discipline. I cannot help thinking that they worked too hard, but I realise that each had a plan for minimising and maximising certain things.
@davidjohnson6465
Жыл бұрын
Yea it was a close close fïght I felt Loma won or it was a draw.But I seen a few times when the title holder has a close one they give it to the champ good fight regardless I'm glad they got it in
@jasonwheeler2986
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@Whattatwist
Жыл бұрын
That’s a cop out, when a man trains his fucking ass off and wins a fight and then loses on paper that’s salt, loma took it too haney, walked him down, landed the better shots in nearly every single round, then are great ok, but boxing needs too do better, boxing will never get another penny out of me, ever again.
@mittensmcghee4916
Жыл бұрын
@@Whattatwist Devin lost the fight!
Look at Lomas face vs Devins face after the fight, and you’ll see clearly who won 😂 Lbvs Let’s go Haney!!!
@purplesky4157
Жыл бұрын
Devs face was messed up bad 2 bro was wearing shades. Go rewatch the fight and look at his face when he’s in th corner. Also devs black so it’s not as noticeable but he def was bruised up
@TenFloorsUp
Жыл бұрын
@@purplesky4157 I was bout to say the same thing , I’m black , why would I compare bruises with someone with a lighter complexion. I don’t turn red or purple when I get hit.
@MrDarrel100
Жыл бұрын
Bruises don't tell who won the fight.
@MrElvin1975
Жыл бұрын
That's some ignorant sh*** to say. You forget Lomas white? Of course you would see the lil scratches he had on his face. How about the swollen left eye on Haney? Unlike Loma, the supposedly small old white man Haney was going to dominate.. stop the Bias. If they would of fought 4 years ago like Haney wanted his career would of ended then.
@giannisantetokoun984
Жыл бұрын
If haney have white skin you saw manny bruises than loma, specially the swelling of his left eye
In conclusion, if the results are that close, the champ remains champ
@maradona8623
Жыл бұрын
Haney garbage!!!!
@BodyPuncher20s
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@kevinmckay2483
Жыл бұрын
Naw there is a such thing as a draw
@tiktokasylum5186
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinmckay2483 not when your the champ
@nicklausschubert298
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinmckay2483 The champ is still the champ after a draw.
Good job Tim. Love to breakdown. I agree 100%
Was so easy.. Haney 8-4.. I watched it in real time and I was wondering what others were seeing.. and I ain't quitting watching boxing..
Haney was landing clean body shots throughout the whole fight nothing but power shots Haney won it was a good fight
@grawakendream8980
Жыл бұрын
effective aggression though. lomachenko was strong late so the body work wasn't effective you could say imo
@__dkchristian3726
Жыл бұрын
@@grawakendream8980 if it wasn’t effective he wouldn’t have loss the 12 round too 🤣
@theflockofyahministries5095
Жыл бұрын
@@__dkchristian3726RIGHT 👍🏿
@LuckyLefty92
Жыл бұрын
@GR AWAKENDREAM it was effective because they are also scoring shots. Yall gotta stop thinking boxing is scored based on how you FEEL. It's scored on what happened
@tpwatson
Жыл бұрын
Did he land body punches yes, but none were in combination. They were single shots one-offs at a time. Aren't body punches supposed to zap energy later in the fight when Loma was clearly aggressor and winning later rounds? There was no clear winner who dominated the fight. I did only see one person close to being put to sleep that night though. Was a draw.
I agree with every single word he said... I can't believe it 😂😂 people watch fights with their ears and their hearts, watch it with the volume off and see the difference
@RaEscobar26
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what it was
@co1893
Жыл бұрын
Damm right but Tim played into the hype and the crowd himself and he had the best seat in the house he judges off emotions
@goated3285
Жыл бұрын
We watched it with our eyes & he got he ass exposed🤷🏽💀
@eversway7540
Жыл бұрын
So true.
@DJ-kb3pl
Жыл бұрын
@@co1893 Tim of all boxers know what Haney was going through post fight and HAD to go back and give a better assessment or keep getting heckled online….trust me, he remembers that feeling deep down post Pacquio 1💯
This was a really good interview. I'd love to see a rematch, but I'm fairly positive it won't happen. Thanks, Tim. Good job Sean.
@tmac5503
11 ай бұрын
It’s going to be a rematch Loma it’s was announced today .
@ChickCiccarelli
11 ай бұрын
@@tmac5503Really? Where was it announced?
@tmac5503
11 ай бұрын
@@ChickCiccarelli They drop Shakur from being the mandatory for Haney. They made Loma his mandatory now I saw it on a few videos and Shakur said it .
Good call tim. I only saw the fight once, but i saw a very close fight with either guy winning. I would be ok with Haney getting the edge being champ. I preferred a split decision to indicate the closeness of the fight. The judge that gave haney the 10th round could not have been paying attention, and that I believe is cause for a lawsuit. Judges have to take their jobs more seriously, as their decisions effect fighters incomes.
Y’all were caught up in the hype. Devin went to work early while Loma came on strong at the end of the fight. Devin was way out in front by then.
@billyrayyeyo1491
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Coco-xw3wp
Жыл бұрын
No he was not! Devin was getting worked big time... Loma was being way to slow with his punches!!
@jegzzs
Жыл бұрын
hype? hype is on haney, everbody thinks he will smoke loma..and as you said devin work early but loma came strong in the end, so whos you gonna favor then? if u win the early round slightly, and got caught in the later rounds u still won the fight? all you haney fan says bodyshot, bodyshot, you watch the fight right?did you see how many times haney head snaps hahaha. you cant judge the fight based on the face also, some people gets easly bruised.. 😅😅
@NicholasGarraway
Жыл бұрын
@@jegzzs Loma didn’t press Haney until in the later rounds. Where was Loma the first 6 rounds? Devin went to work early and did more than Loma. Loma waited too late and tried to win the fight in the last few rounds. Don’t work like that.
@tumchojami8866
Жыл бұрын
@@NicholasGarraway you acting like haney did great and took all 6 rounds😂😂😂😂 it was 4-2 in Lomas favour🤣🤣🤣
I initially thought Loma had the edge right after the fight was over, but after watching again, there were only a few founds Loma decisively won, and that’s facts. Loma was on defense most of the fight with spurts here and there. Loma seemed to have only pressed the fight in the 4th quarter, while on defense 1st-3rd quarters.
@MarqNash
Жыл бұрын
Facts 👌🎉
@turonwhitfield7917
Жыл бұрын
Basically,,,& well said very accurate
@definitionXrp
Жыл бұрын
🧠🧠
@revskull
Жыл бұрын
being on the defensive doesn't mean you didn't win rounds.....every heard of Floyd Mayweather Jr?
@definitionXrp
Жыл бұрын
How you didn't see that in the first watch loma had a few shot to the head like literally 5 or 7
Even on the under card fights they only talked about Loma, so when that fight started, the commentating just kept talking while Devin was scoring and oooh'n and ahhh'n when Loma would throw a punch, that got a lot of folks confused thinking it was Loma winning round after round when it was Dev who was winning them.🔥
I don’t think ppl realize how good a fight this was. Technically beautiful.
You got to BEAT the champ and that CLEARLY DID NOT HAPPEN. Good technical fight
ANYBODY who rewatches the fight is forced to give Haney his credit
@shyne7778
Жыл бұрын
Like they literally cannot deny his work
@whitejodeci8926
10 ай бұрын
I rewatched it on mute, haney lost
@shyne7778
10 ай бұрын
@@whitejodeci8926 watch it with the volume on 99
FACTS! Thanks for keeping it real
Excellent commentary. Thank you.
Tim called a horrible fight this past weekend !! Buckethead Bradley was riding Loma meat during the entire fight dismissing Dev's early work !! Put some more respect on Devs name !!
@HakiKweliShakur
Жыл бұрын
Facts! Smh!
@joelwilson4197
Жыл бұрын
and ward was riding devin so it evens itself out
@PainsIntern
Жыл бұрын
@@joelwilson4197Ward was barely talking, I swear y’all niggas wasn’t even watching the fight forreal
@jeromebland8287
Жыл бұрын
Real talk Gold Rush
@Omy1975
Жыл бұрын
@@joelwilson4197 Exactly!
There's a lot of "casual fans" that base their outcomes on bias and emotions. Most have no idea of how to score a fight. Anyone that goes back and watch the fight, even with not knowing how to score a fight, one can just decide who won each individual round, without the math. After re-watching, you will see that this was a easy victory for Devin.
@franciscosanchez-wo8kl
Жыл бұрын
You obviously didn’t listen to a word Bradley just said…😂😂😂. The definition of Delusional. Nothing was easy about that fight for Haney and after he struggled with a smaller/older fighter it’s all uphill from here for him… 😂😂😂
@matrixseven8528
Жыл бұрын
@@franciscosanchez-wo8klLOMA ONLY HAD 2 GOOD ROUNDS 😂 LOOK AT HIS FACE OR WAS THAT A GHOST 👻 WHATS CRAZY IS NOT ONE JUDGE SAW LOMA WINNING
@Emmanuel7lion
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯... Loma won 4 or 5 rounds at best.
@cerromeceo
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say easy. The fight was extremely close. I had it split decision Lomachenko. Haney got the win none the least. It was a good fight
@DrRaro
Жыл бұрын
You gotta be in an alternate reality or something. Being very generous towards Haney gets you 7-5 for him but in no way was it easy. Most rounds were dead even and the rounds that weren’t went for Loma.
Great interview, probably the best I have watched so far. My father was an amateur boxers in the 1960’s and now my grandson is in his third year of boxing so I have been a Boxing fan for many decades. I watched most all the professional match ups. The fight on Saturday was a great close fight. My son and grandson was there in person sitting about 10 rolls back on Loma side. I too have watched the match up multiple times. I feel both fighters had their shine moments. But, when counting their % of landed punches per round Loma landed 2 to 1. When taking all the scoring factors my score was Loma 7 to 5. I thought Loma won but thought at the very least it would be a draw. The Boxing commission need to address this inconsistency and irregularities in their judges though, or they are going to lose the fan base that pays to go see in person, watch on pay for view and buy the merchandise. Even if we are biased for one Boxer over another, those of us who follow and support the sport know enough when a fight is judged incorrectly. At the higher levels of Boxing the level of incorruptible judges needs to match what the viewers are being ask to pay to watch the match ups. I feel both Boxers gave it their all, did a great fight. Neither have anything to regret or be ashamed of, they fought their fight and did their part. The judges on the other hand has forever tarnish the results of this fight, and several others earlier this year. When there is a clear wrong score in round 10, you have to question is the judges taking bribes or are they really that incompetent? When these Boxing teams prepare and invest so much of themself in the rings there should be no question that the judges are dependable and reliable enough to score unbiased and correctly. I know if I was a international Boxer there would be no way I would ever accept a Boxing match up in Vegas ever again because in recent years the scoring has been clearly wrong and outcome is biased. This problem in judging and scoring needs to get fixed to save the integrity of the Boxing Sport.
@hebisty4163
Жыл бұрын
All these words wasted cos your talking nonsense. What a shame.
@Ola2one
Жыл бұрын
@@hebisty4163 lol 😂 😅😂
@iprincemajestic2.0
11 ай бұрын
WTF you type all that??????
@Lemon-rk9hq
11 ай бұрын
Facts
The crowd scored this fight & the announcers & you know who they had winning. Close fight but I had Haney edging this fight but, I'd love to see a rematch.
I honestly can't see it going in favor of Loma. I notice the crowd erupting when Loma would throw his combos... he would only land 1 or two punches in that combo. Haney worked well off his back foot earlier in the fight. Loma had to adjust to punishment (body shots and counters), Haney did not. It's obvious that Haney worked Lomas face, we saw that in the post-fight interviews, and we saw the bodyshots landing, and we saw Loma having to make adjustments due to that punishment! Haney won!
@Hahahanoyes
Жыл бұрын
So haney lands 1 body shot that beats Loma landing a couple shots? Like cmon man. 2-3 body shots a round
@snoopythedog3266
Жыл бұрын
Haneys face was very puffy and he wore big sunglasses. Going into the 12th round the betting was minus 500 for Loma, the public knew who was winning. Bradley being a chicken here
@jameshodgkins559
Жыл бұрын
A lot of the marks on Loma face was from the inside of Haneys gloves, done during the clinching. Not once did ref say anything. If they have a rematch what’s the chances of a Ukrainian ref & Ukrainian judges
@WavyJayZ
Жыл бұрын
@@snoopythedog3266 every time I see this betting line bs I automatically know you're not a real fan. What do betting lines have to do with the fight itself? You're grasping for things to cope with and it's pathetic. Edit: Haney did not have big sunglasses on, they were slim style, more so than the usual pair of sunglasses. You're grasping and missing bud, haney won this fight. Only those with eyes can see. You casuals can't truly understand what's happening in real time at this level. Two of the best to do it in a close fight. Devin showed he's got alot of room to improve but he's ready for the true top level. Loma showed he's still Loma, and may be even BETTER than the loma we've seen so far.
@hype2beast119
Жыл бұрын
Bradley is defending Haney because he knows how it feels like to robbed someone. Let’s not forget the Pacquiao robbery.
But respect to him for going back and watching it and giving Devin his dues
@hakeemolajuwon4352
Жыл бұрын
HANEY got his azz whooped
@solace4114
Жыл бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 look at loma face and he cried
@kkeshonn1495
Жыл бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 loma’s face Vs Devin’s says the opposite
@hustleup3840
Жыл бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Haney beat Loma up
@matrixseven8528
Жыл бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352LOMA FACE LOOK LIKE MARTIN AFTER HE FOUGHT TOMMY HEARNS 😂 DEVIN BEAT THAT BOY DOWN WITH BODY SHOTS
Thanks for the unbiased review. I believe Haney won but wouldn't had been mad at a draw either
Nah rewatch the fight loma won rounds 2,3,7,8,9,10 and 11. And on top of that won the overall story of the fight. Bradley gettin paid to not make a fuss about the judges and also had history with getting a bad win from Pacquiao. Wrong person to be asking about the fight. Boxing rigged
When I first watched the fight, I had it a draw..When I watched again without all the emotion and hype snd I realised Devin won 8-4
@westside8514
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@musaawadh3962
Жыл бұрын
True no robbery
@dco1019
Жыл бұрын
Like Bradley said in this video you need to stop watching boxing ... 5:57
@shyne7778
Жыл бұрын
🎯🎯🎯🎯 truth be told 💯
I had 7-5 for Haney. Have to rewatch it and see whats up
Watched it love and had Haney winning, watched it again right after no commentary and got the same score with Haney winning.
@ItsameAlex
Жыл бұрын
Cap.
@scottlxndsensei6920
Жыл бұрын
@@ItsameAlex no 🧢 at all. Y’all gotta stop being so ducking hateful. Take the hate to the ufc. Boxing is for the purest only
@ralphlauren0423
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how ppl say the body shots are what made the difference then wtf do y'all rate all the combos Loma gave to Haney's head, popping it back double jabbing cutting angles cutting off Haney it's just crazy to me idk fuck boxing at this point at least make it fair if Haney wins it SD maybe or a draw? 🤡
@scottlxndsensei6920
Жыл бұрын
@@ralphlauren0423 brother just delete this comment you don’t know shii about boxing and you kinda making it clear. The reality is if you don’t know what you looking at and what goes into scoring a round.. without using google you just need to save your opinion lol
@cartiershades3392
Жыл бұрын
Haney won 7-5, I predicted 8-4. David Sutherland had the most accurate card.
😂idk WHY, but it was funny AF and kinda odd hearing Tim Bradley saying “nigga”, LMBO!
At this point I don't think folks really mad about Loma losing they just hate that Devin won. There's more Devin haters than Loma fans
what 7rounds did people give Loma? To feel like he clearly won?
@scottlxndsensei6920
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!! The rounds they give loma be 🧢 I only gave him 3 CLEAR rounds
@rahimgaymon4243
Жыл бұрын
Good question…
@purplesky4157
Жыл бұрын
@@scottlxndsensei69203 rounds is crazy 🤣 y’all trippin
@scottlxndsensei6920
Жыл бұрын
@@purplesky4157 nigga you not paying attention to detail I said 3 CLEAR rounds not 3 all around fool. But that’s all a causal is gonna get outta me on KZread
@FlameOn24
Жыл бұрын
2, 3, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11
Tim Bradley was so bias.... gave haney little to no credit while watching the fight he praised Loma so much I this fight any little thing Loma did he praised him Loma throws a 9 punch combination and only land 1-2 punches ...tim Bradley goes crazy (ohhh that was beautiful)
@user-xy9sy4oi5x
Жыл бұрын
He's a bootlicker, Butler off Django catering to a certain crowd. All skin folks, not kin folks.
@KingAlexander98
Жыл бұрын
That was true. But I know boxing because I box myself and friends box. We all think loma did just enough if not a draw at best for Haney. I don't care what any commentator say they been biased since the begging of time ain't nun new.
@leightonlawrence8832
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's hard to give him credit live when he's barely landing anything. Now that he got his story straight he formed an argument for haney.
@goated3285
Жыл бұрын
@@KingAlexander98 😂yea okay buddy🤣💀
@scottlxndsensei6920
Жыл бұрын
@@goated3285 that nigga cap lmao Devin won period
Good interview enjoyed it very much.
Who scored more landed punches.... Loma won 7 to 5... this is the reason people stopped watching boxing.
I haven't seen one person say after a rewatch "at first I thought Haney won the fight but after rewatch Loma definitely won." Instead it's "I thought Loma won 7-5 but after rewatch Haney edged it," or "At first I thought Haney won 7-5 but after rewatch Haney won 8-4 or 9-3."
@siderussmith85
Жыл бұрын
Right. That lets you know they were bias for Loma at first or in their feelings.
@kosan2875
Жыл бұрын
@@siderussmith85 no.... If they were truly bias they would've kept saying Loma won
Man Tim was only watching loma and Ward had to remind him what Haney was doing back. Now Tim never said nothing about Haney landing punches and all this talk about the body work but how did Loma face get like that? Close fight because 7-5 can’t get any closer next to a draw! But come on Tim you was horrible!
@rasheiq1003
Жыл бұрын
Exactly bro well said bro!!!!💪🏾💯
@TayyDay
Жыл бұрын
Im confused? Both fighters had marks on there face?
@TRUTH_MATTERS1
Жыл бұрын
@@TayyDay Yes but there acting like one only landed on the face and the other just body shots! Devin was countering , Jab , uppercut and right hook but all that’s being pointed out is his body work! That’s why I said a fighter face don’t look like that from body shots alone
@TRUTH_MATTERS1
Жыл бұрын
@@TayyDay By the way Lomas was worse!
@OriginalNutta
Жыл бұрын
Ward a real one he was really sticking up for Haney and correcting the commentators for being loma fanboys
I've watched this fight 6 times and 6 times after the 8th Rd...I had it a draw the 9th was edged out by Devin...along with the 12th....But due to the One-sidedness of rds 10 & 11... This fight needed to at the very least be declared a Draw.💯
Excellent Throw Down by Tim Bradley
I hate to say this… I’m lying 🤥 Haney won that fight and I get it , majority of people wanted Loma to win but he wasn’t busy enough in the beginning rounds and that’s a fact you can’t cheat the playback😂 stop making excuses and celebrate that Young King for winning a close and deserved fight
@arod1766
Жыл бұрын
Mire bs excuses. Many people that bet on Haney or said he would win accepted Loma won easy
@ljsims13
Жыл бұрын
@@arod1766 Haney a smarter fight and out scored him
😂 Bradley doesn’t need to go anymore broadcast until he figures out how to be neutral.
@siderussmith85
Жыл бұрын
Right. When it comes to Loma and Shakur he sucks them off real good.
115-113 Haney was the exact right score. If Loma didn’t start getting active so late and would’ve done more in the early rounds he could’ve stolen the decision but he didn’t. He let Devin deposit 6 of the first 8 rounds
@ethereal7772
Жыл бұрын
6 of the first 8 rounds is a really bad joke
@jamiethomas5849
Жыл бұрын
@@ethereal7772 what early rounds did Loma win besides 3 and 6? Watch you say some bullshit that can easily be disproved
@vaderd4353
Жыл бұрын
@@jamiethomas5849@jamiethomas5849 Loma had a shout to win rounds 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 Haney had a shout to win rounds 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12... Loma won 8-4.
@vaderd4353
Жыл бұрын
Anybody who had Haney winning either did not score the fight, or cannot score the fight. It is not possible to give Haney more than 6 rounds.
@jamiethomas5849
Жыл бұрын
@@vaderd4353 8-4 either way is a gahdamn lie. If you wanna say it’s a draw or Loma won 7-5 I completely and totally disagree but I’ll allow your opinion. 116-112 either way is just pure bullshit
Back in my day. You had to beat the Champion. Without a doubt. This fight did not meet that criteria. Devin won the fight. Any doubt should alway's go to the Champ. What is sad about this is after the fight is over and they announce the winner. They boo the kid. This to me is shameful. Devin laid it all out on the line and the poor kid gets booed. It makes me furious to see this ultra talented kid get booed. Absolutely shameful. Devin there are some of us who are cheering you on. Great job. Great show. Who says Devin is boring now?
@Luka_theDon
Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@farees4820
Жыл бұрын
And only 24 yrs of age 💯🔥
@cmoneyno5
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if you're the champ... if you lose the fight you lose the belt.... The whole you gotta take it from the champ narrative is bullshit... However, Haney clearly won
Watching and Listening 2 the fight live you could tell who Tim wanted 2 win.
@byus6928
Жыл бұрын
haney lost bruh kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWVpyrhwmM20Z7w.html he wanted Loma to win cause he was bouncing his gloves off his face all night. anyone with 2 eyes can see it.
@timbradley2766
Жыл бұрын
Funny I bet on Haney ha!
@joemonteleonezollo4967
Жыл бұрын
All of them especially Ward To much talk from the announcers. Gamblers late bets in later rounds had Lomo ahead . What I'm smelling is bias , and funny business. Haney signed by Top Rank 2 days before the fight. Really!!! 34 year old out , 24 year old in . Close fight yes , Haney no.
@bloodhound7483
Жыл бұрын
@@timbradley2766 you should’ve went down on your shield 🛡️ the WHOLE fight you only talked about Loma it’s on tape it can’t be disputed but it wasn’t just you the main commentator did A Lot of one sided commentating to ward did a little cooning also but not as much you where just 1 of the loudest Devin was fighting the commentators the fans & Loma how do you go from a ROBBERY to Now it’s not a ROBBERY in less then 24hrs & I thought that you had to take the BELTS from the CHAMPION did Loma take the BELTS
@hoosiernative9668
Жыл бұрын
@@joemonteleonezollo4967 close rounds always go to the champion. Loma didn’t do enough.
Haney won this fight After a lot of people have had time to rewatch the fight, they ll see that Haney won
@YugiohAce
Жыл бұрын
Yep
I was there on fight night. The whole crowd was going for Loma. When Haney was announced the winner the whole crowd went nuclear.
@buFFlosouljah1
Жыл бұрын
The fight was held in Ukraine 🇺🇦 so that's why the crowd was so hostile against the American.
@joedoggie9098
Жыл бұрын
nah, they went nuclear because the white man landed more punches over 12 rounds???
@AlienKomplex-yw2zb
Жыл бұрын
@joe doggie nope. Because the yt man lost! 🤣🤣😂😂
@joedoggie9098
Жыл бұрын
@@AlienKomplex-yw2zb say only some spades
@musak.4068
Жыл бұрын
@@joedoggie9098 nah only liceheads crying
When I first watched it I thought he was being Biased towards Loma but when I rewatched it again all 3 commentators called a fair and great fight for both fighters because that’s really what it was 💯
@bodanlunny1323
Жыл бұрын
But Loma loses every time it’s close
@musak.4068
Жыл бұрын
Delusional
@popoffeveryround
Жыл бұрын
@@musak.4068 I’m delusional because I actually went back to dissect a great fight that people were calling a robbery and also decided to pay attention and dissect the commentary as well 👌🏽 yeah whatever you say 🤷🏽♂️
@musak.4068
Жыл бұрын
@@popoffeveryround you wrote all that extra stuff I ignored. Yes, you're delusional for thinking that commentary was fair during the fight.
@popoffeveryround
Жыл бұрын
@@musak.4068 well if you don’t wanna read. Keep it moving 🤷🏽♂️ simple
I watched it 3 times and Devin won 8-4 or even 7-5 in my opinion
@LuizRosario
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I had it the same 8-4 for Devin Haney.
@runninreb9142
Жыл бұрын
I told you there would be controversy.
As stated before, the commentary team and crowd can sway viewers mindsets. That's why fans should watch without volume if they are scoring the fight.
Wasn’t he hating on Devin Haney the whole broadcast tho ?
Couldnt have came back with a better approach. I told many the same thing,, that when they rewatch the fight no audio, they gon see Haney really win by very close split decision in all honest opinion. i had him 7-5, and i kinda was lookin for loma to win based on his good role in the story on the cool. Other than that, they gave us a fiyah one to rewatch and appreciate. Good stuff for Devin 👑!!
@kingandking15
Жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of both fighters but at the end of the 12 rounds I knew Haney won, but I won’t mind if they score it draw but calling it robbery is a pure joke …
@justinbadillo8703
Жыл бұрын
rounds 6,7,8,and 9 i watched a few times over and i also had it 7-5 in favor of haney
@rosaman21
Жыл бұрын
I just don't understand how people are getting that when we all saw Loma snapping haneys head back in the championship rounds never saw that happen the other way around even in haneys most successful rounds shit is crazy
@ramensantos4663
Жыл бұрын
Close fight indeed in fact I was rooting for haney but I think loma won this tbh
@johnanderson8284
Жыл бұрын
@@justinbadillo8703 I agree however I had Loma winning 1,2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12 dominantly
Tim has to be honest... he was biased and favoring Loma. Most likely influenced by the crowd. Still love him as an analyst and the passion he brings. Just be better going forward.
@thewb3
Жыл бұрын
exactly... Ask him sincerely did he beat pacquiao?😅
@Mike-hy8cs
Жыл бұрын
I think he was influenced by the crowd which i dont blame him that much i mean that crowd would cheer loud even if loma missed a flurry of punches. Its also hard to see what really is landing live because you are watching the fight from one angle the entire time instead of multiple like tv shows.
@tpwatson
Жыл бұрын
He picked Haney to win pre-fight, in every interview. How do you KNOW he was biased based on the crowd? He's a PRO, even Andre Ward gave similar commentary, come on man. Fight was a draw. Tough close fight.
@chancemack
Жыл бұрын
I agree. His call was extremely biased towards Loma. I appreciate his breakdown just now though. I think a lot of fans need to hear his perspective.
@LikelyABot
Жыл бұрын
The crowd doenst hear the telecast. I was there in person and all of the haney fans around me left early cuz they thought he lost. The ones staying around were saying he needed a knockout in the 12th
My friend and co-worker who’s a sort-of-retired boxer, said on his second watch he saw Loma was blocking a lot of those body shots in the later rounds. I’ve got to watch it again myself, like a judge would…. I still say Loma lost the belts by not coming out blazing in round 12. I scored it a draw watching as a fan, but thus Haney keeps the belts anyway.
@tmac5503
11 ай бұрын
He never had the belts so Loma didn’t lose the belts.
What app did u use to stream this
This was a classic fight i will be looking at years to come
@TheInterestedObserver
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, very tactical and enjoyable I really would like them to go at it again, it would be an even bigger event.
I rewatched it too, i scored 7-5 haney. Loma had some rounds where he threw combos but a good majority of the shots either missed or were blocked. Also, in moments where Loma did score a good punch, Haney had a response back. Rounds 10 + 11 were 100% all Loma, all he needed was 1 more round like those and then I think people would be justified in calling it a robbery. Besides that, Haney did really well & deserved the win.
@mustymartian8684
Жыл бұрын
Me too. I came back with the same conclusion.
@5.0foxbody8
Жыл бұрын
Damn you got that goood crack you smokin
@aundrevalderaz5212
Жыл бұрын
Safe to say everyone else is just riding a trend by saying this fight was rigged
@allenconner5143
Жыл бұрын
Loma won period
@joedoggie9098
Жыл бұрын
Haney deserved the win is just stupid.
This dude was the main one praising every little thing Loma did. Now he tryna clean it up.
Watching it live, I thought Dev won 7-5. Them body shots were lifting Loma to tippy toes, stopping him dead on his tracks! Biggest Loma fan too! 💪🏾😢
@edwinalmanza6625
Жыл бұрын
Lol yeah right thru didn’t affect loma at all…body shots don’t win fights bruh …loma have everything even the body shots on devin looks at the stats …devin was the only one that got hurt in that fight multiple times!
@carlosrosado9560
Жыл бұрын
@edwinalmanza6625 it's the only argument they have is body shots but got outpunched outlanded n outworked in the fight there's Haney fans saying Loma win 3 rounds lmfao I had it 7-5 possibly 8-4 Loma he whooped that boy n everyone in boxing knows it except the bias fans who think Haney dominated smfh and I picked Haney to win but he lost
@amindyce1446
Жыл бұрын
@@carlosrosado9560 wat rounds did loma win except rnds 10 and 11 😂😂😂
@Emmanuel7lion
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯... that body work was vicious!
@Emmanuel7lion
Жыл бұрын
@@edwinalmanza6625 body shots don't win fights? What kind of nonesensical statement is that? Ask Ryan Garcia if body shots win fights! Loma lost. Deal with it!
I had Haney 7-5....But I don't think he wants to see that boy again
@derrickmunson6231
11 ай бұрын
I feel he’ll flat out beat loma in the rematch. Rematch don’t usually fair well for the fighter that feels they were robbed. Wilder for instance. Second fight with fury left no question. Floyd in all his rematches. Hell Haney against Kambosas. Haney now knows what Loma brings, felt his power, and he’s a smart enough fighter to come with a different plan in the next fight. I thinks it’s in Lomas best interest to move on.
Glad Tim came back and gave his opinion.
Man the whole fight he had Loma nuts in his mouth 😂😂😂
@cecilburroughs9460
Жыл бұрын
He had a violent stroking session the whole fight. Like bro ease up, you going to burn some skin off
@siderussmith85
Жыл бұрын
Right. Ward had to check him a few times. Tim and Tess were ridiculous. I had to turn the volume off to watch the fight.
Finally people starting to see sense 🥊🥊 it was a close fight and both fighters have a case. Depends on what you like
@goated3285
Жыл бұрын
It was a draw if not a robbery because Devin did not do anything we thought he was going to do & got exposed. Had Loma had 1 knockdown y’all would be crying about how Devin lost but he was literally wobbled 3 times to lomas 0. Loma also outlander him but 🤷🏽ok.
@femiakinniyi3985
Жыл бұрын
@@goated3285 Def a draw. And bradley is a goof. His words hold no weight. LMFAO! He was going in on tank davis. And then changed his response soon after regarding the garcia fight. I dont take nothing bradley says seriously. How everybody saying dev clearly won. You see his face when they were reading out the scores. Devin looked scared. That didnt look telling. Even he knew that dang. Idk if i won this
@elonlove343
Жыл бұрын
@@goated3285 You can't use draw and robbery in the same sentence. I had it as a draw too. And yes Loma outlanded Haney but it was only by a few punches and most of those actually came in the 11th round. While Haney was more accurate by 5% overall but in round 11 Loma was more accurate by like 20% or more. That's why I had it as a draw.
6:00 i personally called it 7-5 for Haney, but just like you said Tim, there were alot of swing rounds that could've gone either way. so you cant be mad at anyones assessment. Different things move different people when it come to their judgments.
everyone claiming robbery immediately after the fight was turning up, getting their third plate of food and already downed 10 mixed drinks until they really started watching the fight from round 8 till the end
I watched the fight again yesterday and this morning without sound, Devin Haney won a close decision, I had the same score all 3 times, 7-5 for Devin Haney, Most people had Devin losing before Devin entered the ring, No matter what Devin did Saturday night, Devin would not get the credit he deserves for this fight, If Devin beat Loma clearly every round, People would have said Devin was suppose to beat a 35yr old Lomachenko, Give that young man the credit he deserves.
@terryrouse1555
Жыл бұрын
I think devin dominant Loma but close
@dionwells2859
Жыл бұрын
I had it 7-5 for Haney watching it
@kevingallardo9297
Жыл бұрын
7-5 Loma y’all son weirdos
@jjackson6928
Жыл бұрын
I had Devin winning 7-5 too. I watched it on replay twice now
@fortheloveofspanking5883
Жыл бұрын
Lmao what ? You do know Haney was favorite right ? U just don’t know boxing 😂
Look at Lomaa face after the fight all tagged up. Haney looked fresh
@FlameOn24
Жыл бұрын
Nigga haney had on shades and he black we dont bruise ez
@MarcoLopez-dt7lq
Жыл бұрын
Well to be fair loma is white so his face looks more red and DH is black hard to see the face
@iliyano567
Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoLopez-dt7lq dude trust bruises will show regardless of tone of skin; dude was getting tagged looooool
@MarcoLopez-dt7lq
Жыл бұрын
@@iliyano567 naw the darker you are the harder it is to see. Its called biology so stop the cap
@juanjr330
Жыл бұрын
That’s why he was wearing glasses to hide his face at the post fight huh
Good call tim.crowd was going to wild for Loma
I had Haney winning but I'd LOVE for them to run it back, Devin could've fought a different style & it would've been worse for Loma. It was a GREAT fight despite our disagreements.
I had it 7-5 Haney no draw
Exactlyyyyyyy Haney 7-5 they listened to the crowd. It’s close so why they said robbery!! Haney won both 1st & 2nd round, 4, 6-8, 12th.
@wesw5797
Жыл бұрын
Yo
Lomachenkos face was all messed up