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@stevilkenevil9960

2 жыл бұрын

Go research tartaria it's on every map until the 1870s fascinating stuff

@Inspector-Chisholm

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that she's wearing mouse ears and says "y'all" speaks to her credibility. This person will probably insist that Africans were the first to cross the Atlantic despite there being no archeological evidence while saying that the Roman empire never existed, despite there being archeological evidence over literally the entire ancient world.

@stevilkenevil9960

2 жыл бұрын

@@Inspector-Chisholm what?

@vingerengaoma

2 жыл бұрын

Real scholars know Australia is the actual conspiracy, giant spiders and rats? Tiny bears? Poison Ivy like plants that drive people insane? Clearly these notions were dreamt up by a mad man and it's not a real place. 😂

@SirLeDoux

2 жыл бұрын

@UCe0aVPRk9izhFWWrh_vZLrw say what? Lol

Me, an Italian born and raised in Rome, going on a walk: damn, I must be hallucinating again

@zoutewand

Жыл бұрын

Italy doesn't exist either. It's part of Russia. Obviously.

@mariaisabelmiller9735

Жыл бұрын

😂

@jacobhamilton2473

Жыл бұрын

You were clearly in Greece. Which is wierd because wasn't Greek what the Romans called the Hellenic(spelled wrong probably) people?(for clarity: I'm clearly joking)

@scottwatson9453

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Hollywood did a good job in italy creating movie sets that look like old ruins.

@Bestroyer348

Жыл бұрын

Get on your meds dude

The fact that she calls the language “Roman” instead of Latin says a lot about her credibility. Kudos to you!

@Ratnoseterry

2 жыл бұрын

Numbers are written in Latin using Roman Numerals. Why aren't they called Latin Numerals?

@Ratnoseterry

2 жыл бұрын

I mean real or not real, they were fascists. Lets get real. She used bad language to say Rome was a great idea that really didn't come together. There were people in Rome before Rome was Rome, and many of them didn't like the idea of Rome. The germans didn't like the idea of Rome. The Gnostics didn't like the idea of Rome. Nobody liked the idea of Rome. But people are too dense to not support communism or fascism in some sense

@Ratnoseterry

2 жыл бұрын

What can we really ask for?

@Ratnoseterry

2 жыл бұрын

@Swen more like being called Latin America and Latinos fell out of favor, and class wars between who is "more native" and who is "less not native". Mexico didn't want the associations and likely the grief and disease that came behind the Roman Empire either. Still managed to infect the general populace.

@bluebird3281

2 жыл бұрын

@@stahu_mishima Do you think the lady in the kitty ears was considering that when she made that statement?

If Egypt can sue Netflix, I think Italy can sue this creature.

@liyanatassim1291

Жыл бұрын

Go for it guys.

@user-fz1ui1mx4m

Жыл бұрын

do it

@error4159

Жыл бұрын

Egypt has less proof of their chicks heritage than this furrie girl does of her claims

@WarFoxThunder

Жыл бұрын

Frfr

@Basilisk650

Жыл бұрын

Just give the message to both the Italian historian and the governor.

As a historian, I find her use of teddybear ears a sign of her true intellect and credibility.

@lukewehlow838

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!!…….. as soon as I saw her I laughed my ass off and thought whoever takes her seriously needs to get their millennial heads into true research!!

@michellerenee92580

Жыл бұрын

i mean the cultivation she had to acquire🤣🤣🤭

@sebastianb.3978

11 ай бұрын

​@@lukewehlow838Mate, millenials are in their 30's now. This is gen z. (Although Tik Tokers tend to be a class of their own, as this one demonstrates.)

@mokarokas-1727

11 ай бұрын

@@sebastianb.3978 - This woman looks 30+ to me..?

@CHNO-cm1rd

11 ай бұрын

@@mokarokas-1727 yes, she says she's almost 40

The most unbelievable part of this conspiracy is that the Holy Roman Empire had anywhere near the level of stability required to rewrite history on a global scale

@doggolovescheese1310

Жыл бұрын

I mean.. they did with Christianity but they certainly didn't make up the Roman Empire lol xD

@johnathanheatherman6438

Жыл бұрын

@@doggolovescheese1310 they mean the Byzantine empire

@DanBoyd1111

Жыл бұрын

There's nothing "holy" about the Roman Empire!

@ffejpsycho

Жыл бұрын

yeah, they were the craziest bunch of Holy Romans to ever gang around kinda France, and Italy, but also Germany!

@mckenzie2423

Жыл бұрын

Also that the Holy Roman Empire had anything to do with the actual Roman Empire. The reason it’s called the Holy Roman Empire was because Roman made the continent stable for centuries and when it collapsed, so did everyone else. So why not name your Empire after one the greatest to have ever existed? Everyone knows of the Roman Empire, so if they hear Holy Roman Empire, they can pretend that it’s back, just more Christian. You can even say you are descended from/successors of the great Roman Empires.

Maybe the edgy 14 yearolds on Reddit were right. Tiktok was a mistake.

@justarandomtechpriest1578

2 жыл бұрын

Yup

@claymore484

2 жыл бұрын

What you mean they were right along

@IPA300

2 жыл бұрын

What’re you talking about 14 year olds? Boomers were hating on Tiktok back when it was still a bad party song.

@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't tale an edgy 14 year old to see tiktoc is a cancer on mankind.

@Jur1_00

2 жыл бұрын

It's crazy how people blame the platform tik tok when it's still people that say ridiculous things on the platform

Imagine if someone created a conspiracy that the British Empire didn't exist millennia from now, their main point being that the English language was invented centuries after the period of decolonisation by Anglican priests, yet refers to it exclusively as "the British language."

@a.w.4708

Жыл бұрын

... Wait, you believe British Empire actually exists? Everybody knows it is a conspiracy created by Ameircans to validate their whte supremacy and erase the real creators of the biggest empire of Victorian era: the six mime mauve lions (why else yould there be a lion a symbol of England?)

@outlawJosieFox

11 ай бұрын

And Brexit was just a fever dream of a minor politician out for himself. Imagine

@outlawJosieFox

11 ай бұрын

Sorry. Just not over it. Heh heh heh heh heh

@outlawJosieFox

11 ай бұрын

In fact now I know that I am traumatized. 😂

@scottwashere4047

11 ай бұрын

@@outlawJosieFox So this is humor nowadays

She’s a textbook example of this tiktoker trend of using condescension to project confidence/superiority, talking about a theory or idea they have as “obvious” or “factual” when it just comes out as rude (not to mention ignorant) and doesn’t do anything but contribute to the culture of gatekeeping

@Sir_Bucket

11 ай бұрын

I mean that's exactly what the previous generation did with video game critics Video that pointed and laughted at very obivous blunders with a rude attitude and vocabulary

@alch3myst

11 ай бұрын

Ughhhh yep. I can’t stand TikTok and this is one of the countless reasons why. I *loathe* that little trend. TikTok is a cesspool of misinformation anyway and this just makes it worse

@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527

8 ай бұрын

I think a lot of really bad academia can default to this.

@neonradius

5 ай бұрын

Honestly, even youtube isn’t immune to this. The James Somerton situation really shows this. If you don’t know, he was a youtuber who did a lot of queer history videos and was very popular until it was found out that not only was his work plagiarized, many of his videos were just… factually incorrect. For example: he claimed Radclyffe Hall had obscenity charges against her dropped because people were uncomfortable talking about lesbians in court, when in reality she was convicted and her works destroyed, he claimed that “gay night” was a Disney orchestrated event, he claimed that the SS was full of homosexuals (which at least is a more common misconception), and that the Beatles’ “I want to hold your hand” was shocking and scandalous because holding hands was dirty back then. And I want to emphasize that he was a fairly big creator in that corner of youtube, and these are just some of the blatant lies he made up. So I don’t think tiktok is alone in this, I just think that the barrier to entry for tiktok videos tends to be lower and there are a lot more tiktok creators than youtubers (just because you consume dozens of tiktok’s in the time it takes to consume a youtube video). Also, tiktok videos are easy to share and send to your friend like “omg can you believe rome isn’t real?”. But if we think of misinformation as just a problem those dumb tiktokers have, it’s easy to miss when it happens on other platforms.

@black_hand78

4 ай бұрын

@@neonradius”SS was full of homosexuals,” lmfao. Great uncle Otto must have been getting freaking back then 😅😂.

As someone that was born and raised in Rome and with a degree in classics, I agree with her: the Colosseum is a hologram, Latin doesn't exist and so Italian doesn't exist either and I speak with my family in sign language.

@ItWasBetterBefore

2 жыл бұрын

Oh but Italian derives from GREEK, obviously. (Lol!)

@michaelm-bs2er

2 жыл бұрын

Shhh! You weren't supposed to tell them.

@squizzyicetea

2 жыл бұрын

🤌🤌

@leonieromanes7265

2 жыл бұрын

Well of course the Romans built the colosseum and Forum 100 years ago to draw in American tourists. (Lol sarcasm).😁

@michaelm-bs2er

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonieromanes7265 no you fool. They did it to draw in tourists from Japan and China. Everyone knows that America was a fabrication made up by the British. Seriously, think about it. Why can't we find any books, monuments or writings from America written in American? They're all written in British.

I'm Greek and I've heard a lot of Greeks claim a lot of crazy things about ancient Greece, but even they accept that Ancient Rome existed. This TikToker is even less reliable than Greek cab drivers, and trust me, that's not an easy feat.

@InquisitorThomas

2 жыл бұрын

Mother of god…

@CobrazFinest

2 жыл бұрын

hahahah @ "This TikToker is even less reliable than Greek cab drivers, and trust me, that's to an easy feat" brilliant

@harryjbingham7216

2 жыл бұрын

@@InquisitorThomas Theotokos!

@bandit6272

2 жыл бұрын

The Greeks fought a few wars against the Romans too.

@JS-tl7jp

2 жыл бұрын

Oh I’ve heard a good bit about that, the Turkish-Greek sniping about who invented what is quite something 😁

I'm sure people in the Conlang (constructed langauge) community can tell you about how hard it is to not only make up a langauge from thin air but also to have people acutally use and speak it on a even a local scale let alone globally

@rylanasher4756

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the trouble it is to make the conlang sound and feel like a natural language, and not some artifice!

@Ajehy

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention constructing a language that ties in so perfectly to existing languages as an origin point.

@rylanasher4756

Жыл бұрын

@@Ajehy what's the opposite of Occam's Razor? 😂

@littlemy1773

Жыл бұрын

Esperanto being a prime example . When I was a teen (in the 90s) we were all told Esperanto would be the language of Europe . Never happened tho . I know some people use it but it didn’t catch on despite them pushing it so much back then 😂

@ishathakor

2 ай бұрын

@@rylanasher4756 hiccum's dictum!

I live in Bologna, which is the cradle of the Etruscan (and most probably Roman) civilisation. We literally cannot have a metro because EVERY SINGLE TIME someone starts to dig below the city, a new previously unknown Roman era archaeological site pops up out of nowhere.

I find it funny that in her first video on how rome doesn't exist she uses the phrase "bread and circuses" this phrase is a translation of the latin phrase " Panem et Circenses" a phrase that the creation of is attributed to Juvenal, a Roman Poet. So she used a phrase from a roman to explain why rome didn't exist. Ingenuity at its finest!

@moorek1967

Жыл бұрын

Did you not know, bread is Panera, not Panem. Everybody knows that. The sign even has a picture of bread just so you don't have to take the time to read the word Panera. And did you not know also that Vesuvius wasn't a volcano, but a bunch of Republicans (the Romans were also Republican at one time) blowing up a Starbucks, because you know, you can't have Panera without visiting Starbucks to get that coffee club card punched to prove you bought 9, so you get one free.

@Bestroyer348

Жыл бұрын

I used the Roman to destroy the Romans

@MystraRavenwind

Жыл бұрын

She's saying bred in circuses it sounds like, though. I don't even think she's saying that phrase correctly.

@that_wannabe_optimist2995

Жыл бұрын

Everyday you learn something new, thank you for this little tidbit!

@jdgoesham5381

Жыл бұрын

How ironic. People like her(typical neo Marxist rewriters of history and fact)are useless other than to mock. Until they get violent...

The literal definition of "Damn, Olive garden is so good, I wish Italy was real"

@mariaisabelmiller9735

Жыл бұрын

😂

@rorilee9791

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@lililive1092

Жыл бұрын

Italians wish Olive Garden wasn’t real

@giuliana567

Жыл бұрын

@@lililive1092 i know right, I'm italien lmao

@100objectivenosubjective5

Жыл бұрын

@@giuliana567 It-alien, it speaks for itself

I guess she took the saying "it's all greek to me" literally. 😂

Does...does she really expect us to take seriously someone using an animal filter...?? 🤣

@radium.a

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@johnnierichardson3289

Жыл бұрын

Right. Looks about 11 years old and the arrogance is beyond reprehensible.

@Darkgun231

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnierichardson3289 You wanna know something scary? She's apparently 40.

@mememdetame

Жыл бұрын

@@Darkgun231 I …….. I don’t want to believe that

@Darkgun231

Жыл бұрын

@@mememdetame I'm sorry, it's true.

They invented Latin AND made it even seem like it is the common root for half a dozen roman languages? Kudos!

@thewindysage1538

2 жыл бұрын

Backwards Esperanto , obviously

@chaloy2869

2 жыл бұрын

I speak Spanish. Apparently I have been misled to believe my language derives from vulgar Latin. When according to this "genuis" Tiktoker my language must derive from Ancient Greek although I can't read the Greek Alphabet to save my life.

@dasdaza

2 жыл бұрын

That one actually offended me. I'm Breton and a majority of our history is directly linked to the Romans despite being a Celtic culture. By saying the Romans aren't real is flat out denying the entire history of not only my culture but literally every other culture that is descended from the Romans or influenced by them such as the Germans and Russian

@pedrovascodeoliveiraveriss6293

2 жыл бұрын

World Building worthy of a Tolkien. So where are the stories?

@loturzelrestaurant

2 жыл бұрын

Conspiracys are Best Debunked by Sci Man Dan, Professor Dave Explains, Hbomberguy and Joe Scott.

Lowkey it is so wholesome and faith restoring knowing one of the oldest documents we have from Rome is a birthday party invitation.

@nickmanzo8459

Жыл бұрын

It’s so beautiful to know that so far back in history, people were still people.

@shadowcharizard4592

Жыл бұрын

@@nickmanzo8459 we have ancient carvings at a high point of a cave reading "this is very high"

@mondaysinsanity8193

Жыл бұрын

​@@nickmanzo8459 yep more you learn sbout history the more you realize people have always been people

@mondaysinsanity8193

Жыл бұрын

​@@nickmanzo8459 yep more you learn sbout history the more you realize people have always been people

@BlueMiaou

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowcharizard4592 one of the graffitis of pompeii is "i have a cold", it became an inside joke briefly between my friends and i

I just found this channel, and must say I admire this Lady of the Library's patience. I would have snapped when that rude woman called someone else an armchair expert, but the Lady just shook her head and moved on.

You are exactly the epitome of someone I’d imagine named Lady of the Library and I love it. Also, considering that Spanish is a Romance language (yknow, derived from Latin) and there are 22 Spanish speaking countries on this planet, you’d basically be telling everyone of Latinx heritage that their language and the foundations their culture was built on is not real 😭

@roryrousseau111

10 ай бұрын

When you get to the endgame with Speech maxed out and took all the obscure but powerful Reading perks

The irony, when the saying " the people want bread and circusses" actually comes from ancient Rome. These people are funny.

@CrestOfArtorias

2 жыл бұрын

Panem et circenses - never existed, cites it... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@DrCruel

2 жыл бұрын

This is what happens to academia when socialists and feminists take charge. This is what National Socialist influence in archeology, anthropology and history looked like, as the Aryans who created enormous marble temples with swastikas in India became Germanic tribesmen with blond hair and blue eyes. This is how Marxists turn Aztecs into the heroes of Mesoamerica.

@weilam03

Жыл бұрын

these tiktock kids are retarded

@andersbodin1551

Жыл бұрын

this is circuses man!

@letsgetreal6402

Жыл бұрын

I think she knew where it came from.and was using that as a point toward it being fake...kinda like other conspiracy theorists think they put Illuminati triangles secretly in everything I think she believes that the phrase coming from Rome was supposed to be a hint

Her whole argument literally falls apart when you realize the Eastern Roman(Byzantine) empire was still existent when Spain was just forming.

@szarekhthesilent2047

Жыл бұрын

The Byzantine Empire unironically never actually existed though.

@user-jo3pm2lc9i

Жыл бұрын

@@szarekhthesilent2047 Well than which empire did lose Istanbul (Constantinople) to the Ottomans? This is also an insult to Turkish people and their history.

@tecumsehcristero

Жыл бұрын

@@szarekhthesilent2047 why do you say the Eastern Roman empire didn't exist? Who did the Arabs and Turks fight for hundreds of years?

@vogel2077

Жыл бұрын

@@tecumsehcristero I think he means that they never called themselves that, they called themselves romans still, we made the difference after since a roman empire without rome was a lill' weird . Yet we still have the HRE which was not Holy nor Roman nor Empire, that's weird when you think about it.

@Brien831

Жыл бұрын

@@vogel2077 well the holy roman empire was an empire though… From otto I till the 12th century they were the most powerful monarchy in europe. Why do you think it wasnt an empire?

She’s like the flat earther of history 😂

I really enjoyed listening to your rebuttal, you're very well read and well spoken! Edit: thank you so much for bringing the horrible manners and abusive rhetoric to light! I didn't even realize how desensitized I had gotten to it simply because that's how most people on tik tok operate! The way you spoke about the language reminded me of a concept in the Islamic sciences called متواتر (mutawatir) which essentially means that the evidence is based on narrations and evidence that is so widespread and confirmed by so many people they could not have colluded to create a manipulation. I think this person has an exceedingly Americentric view of the world seeing as not just Greece, but also Arabia and Persia have history with Rome and write about the interactions they had with the Roman people.

Theres a whole chapter in the Quran about the Romans. (Literally called ‘The Romans’) That was written in the 7th century CE. So for Bear Ears conspiracy theory to be correct, the entire Muslim world would have had to be in cahoots with the Catholic Church from the inception of Islam right until the modern day. Also, the Chinese wrote about the Roman Empire during the Han Dynasty.

@colorsred2771

2 жыл бұрын

@@12pope what?

@thenecessaryevil2634

2 жыл бұрын

Oh its even worse, she often erases history by declaring places 'archeological dead zones' with no history for periods because they are inconvenient to her conspiracy. Rather famously recently she declared Iran had 'no history recorded' when it was part of the Seleucid Empire.

@colorsred2771

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenecessaryevil2634 are you kidding me!

@Jeddostotle7

2 жыл бұрын

@@colorsred2771 12pope seems to be directly parroting the "new chronology" conspiracy theory by Fomenko that the Bear Ears was drawing from

@12pope

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jeddostotle7 She said nothing about fomenko??? and history is not fact based because the evidence is not there the farther back you go. fomenko is a mathematician not historian

I'm from Asia, so I don't know too much about ancient European history, but I do know some things 1) the Han dynasty in China, renowned as being the golden age, the zenith of ancient Chinese civilization, knew of, traded with and documented the existence of a European empire centred in Rome. So if Rome was somehow fabricated by the church, and if all evidence of Rome were fake, that would mean the Ming Dynasty Chinese would somehow agree to and be in cahoots with said Catholic church all the way in Europe and forged Han Chinese documents of a past that all of China remembered fondly 2)The Islamic Quran has entries mentioning the Roman empire as an antagonistic faction. If the whole thing is a conspiracy, that would mean the Islamic world cooperated with the Catholic church, which in the 1500s makes zero sense. 3) the Spanish inquisition's main goals were to root out non-catholics (Jews, Muslims, etc.) for being non-catholics. At the time, Islam and Catholicism were archenemies, with devoutly catholic kingdoms warring with devout Muslim empires. And it was concentrated in Iberia, hence the name 'spanish'. The reason for this is because the Iberian peninsula was only recently liberated from the Moorish empire, which had invaded centuries earlier and treated captured local Catholics terribly. The point is, the inquisition's context, modus operandi and location don't match up well with her theory that it was instead a Catholic continent-wide cover up

@majcj6157

2 жыл бұрын

As a brazilian i dont really know much about ancient rome, but i did know these facts. I think you Just need to not be an ignorant to see that this " tik-toker" is insane.

@slyaspie4934

2 жыл бұрын

The fact she thinks all these European country's could cooperate to form this vast conspiracy. Must've done it in between all the wars they were constantly killing each other with

@Johnny-rx4hs

2 жыл бұрын

@@slyaspie4934 She'll probably say the Picts in Britain built Hadrian's Wall themselves.

@strayiggytv

2 жыл бұрын

@@slyaspie4934 this is pretty common thing amount people deeply into conspiracy theories. Occam's razor ceases to exist for them and it's suddenly more believable that literally THOUSANDS of people could seamlessly work together to achieve a goal and they could all keep it completely secret except that theorist is so super special they're the only person that EVER figured it out so buy their book pls. Its an exercise in delusion and narcissism.

@tsdobbi

2 жыл бұрын

"The Islamic Quran has entries mentioning the Roman empire as an antagonistic faction" and the Christian bible, which is older than the Quran, also most certainly mentions the Romans.

I especially like how Chaucer would have to be clairvoyant so he could write "..so sweetly that all the chamber rang/And "Angelus ad Virginem" he sang..." over a century before the TikToker claims Latin was created.

I wonder what she makes of the Book of Kells. It is an 8th Century manuscript of the Gospels and is written in Latin, a language that the TikToker claims would not be invented for another 7 centuries.

As an African historian I deal with this kind of weaponized smugnorance from bad actors far too often. Thank you for doing this video, I'm going to take a walk and try to calm down now.

@xczechr

2 жыл бұрын

Smugnorance, I love it!

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

Oh you mean the ones that claim "there was no such thing as an African Empire" while completely ignoring Egypt was African or that Masa Musa was a thing. Though there are the other end where the expedition Masa Musa said his predecessor started created a Mesoamerican culture and influenced the Mayans. (even though there was little evidence they even made it, and even the man himself said it was unlikely they did)

@12SPASTIC12

2 жыл бұрын

Do you study African history? Or are you an African studying history? Or an African studying African history? 🤔

@davidecardinali9998

2 жыл бұрын

@@forickgrimaldus8301 Masa Musa definetly landed on the same caribean archipelagos as all the travelers did crossing the ocean , there is no other way around it is just ocean current and wind directions brings you there , you just need to survive long enogh ... About influencing Mayan ( or any south american culture ) thats a bit of a reach since its well established throug DNA that Polinesian did that MANY years prior , probably close to 5000 bc ... and in the same way , just survive the crossing and ocean current and winds brings you there

@Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis

2 жыл бұрын

Smugnorance is my new favorite word, thank you so very much for introducing it to me.

Y'know, before the internet, a person with unwashed hair wearing fake bear ears and capping off her rant about how the Roman Empire never existed with "It's a circus, man!" would've had no platform but the local park bench.

@DanielWijk

2 жыл бұрын

Some things where better before the internet...

@sisuguillam5109

2 жыл бұрын

There's always the radio though. Radio (especially in the US) gave voice to people like her before the internet. And lets not forgett books like those written by von Däniken.

@denisdooley1540

2 жыл бұрын

@@sisuguillam5109 . and pamphlets, newspapers, etc. Herbert W. Armstrong's Good News Magazine dragged many a reader down a rabbit hole. Look up William Miller and the Great Disappointment in 1844. Miller had 100,000 followers (like 800,000 today), all believing the world would end exactly on October 22, 1844. People are just gullible.

@sisuguillam5109

2 жыл бұрын

@@denisdooley1540 that they are. Or not in a position to know better due to lack of education, access to information, the way how and where they were raised... Thank you for the tip!

@JSin1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@denisdooley1540 But even then there was a steeper barrier of entry. Ink and paper cost money pixels are cheap. Plus you have to convince someone to pick up the copy. Her, I deeply hesitate to call it a theory, delusion wouldn't even make it to the third page of Weekly World News.

I could feel my blood pressure rising with each TikTok clip 😅 just so upsetting for those people who may come across this rubbish and believe it. So disrespectful to so many people

As someone studying history, it is so frustrating to deal with people like this. She has nothing but her ego backing up her arguments, not to mention it’s almost like she’s trying to make herself look like the fool with the “uwu” bear ears and calling Latin freakin Roman.

As a German this is such a crazy conspiracy theory. Like every few years in cities like Mainz someone wants to dig for a new house and finds the foundation of a roman cellar or bath house or something else. And I'm sure it’s similar in other countries which were part of the Roman Empire, especially Italy.

@2Ten1Ryu

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same. Mainz must have a lot. I grew up near Aalen on the Schwäbische Alb and we have some remains of Roman border walls. Why would anyone ever believe this was fake?

@bertholdb9037

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't you know that the spanish inquisition just went around and hid roman stuff all over europe? They did have some problems because they constantly ran into Satan who did the same with dinosaur bones.

@gioelebordin1146

2 жыл бұрын

I'm Italian, and here it is a real problem. We can't upgrade roads, build new metros, build new houses and so on because we keep finding old Roman stuff

@brittakriep2938

2 жыл бұрын

@@2Ten1Ryu : Britta is my girlfriend . I am from Landkreis Esslingen. I have seen the kilometers long relicts of roman border walls next to village Buch with my own eyes. And Aalen ( Oahla :-)) was once garrison of a roman cavallry unit ,Ala'.

@emcotec1463

2 жыл бұрын

@@gioelebordin1146 sufer from succes, like oh man we have so much culture and so much to see that we cant live in compfort, ut jokes aside i totally get it just was really funny comment to me.

The fact that she says "There's no Roman language" tells me everything I need to know about her.

@TheTheFrankiestein

Жыл бұрын

fr 😭😭

@ianpgmusicfanfictionart

Жыл бұрын

She is technically correct. There is no Roman language. The language is Latin, The people that speak Latin were called Romans.

@thelanktheist2626

Жыл бұрын

You see, there is no Chinese language, so China must not exist!

@arcomegis9999

Жыл бұрын

Romans originally live in the area of Latium in the Italian Peninsula. Henceforth, their language is called Latin.

@ursulastaempfli759

Жыл бұрын

@@ianpgmusicfanfictionart But this means arguing over terms. Infact there is the Roman version of Italian today. And there are romance languages, which you can study. Italian, Spanisch, Portuguese, French, Romanian, Catalonian and some more. And they are called Romance for a reason, because the wide spread divulgation of Latin in Europe is tied to the expansion of the Roman Empire. Latin was the official language of the Roman Empire.

Knowing the average IQ of a TikTok user, I'd bet more than half of them actually believe this girl.

I live your delivery, and I gotta say I also love how your aware of the way that when people share info, they should pay attention to how they disperse their info. You know the value of quality delivery, and a lot of people these days will try to be blunt thinking that will help their message get across, when in reality they need to be BOLD not blunt, it helps them work on their approach when speaking to people. Edit: I appreciate you defending the truth of history, keep doing your thing because people will become ignorant of the weight of history❤😊😊

That tiktoker is the epitome of "tell me you've never been in Europe without telling me you never have been in Europe"

@rcic3706

2 жыл бұрын

Who gives a sh*t about Europe, anyway?

@ig14tesjahrhundert79

2 жыл бұрын

right?? i mean you cant take a step in europe without falling over something roman, i have a feeling she has no grasp on the absolutely gigantuous amounts of extant materials, architecture and literature from that time. faking all of that would have been a coordinated undertaking never again seen on this continent. and for what? for a claim on the ruling over europe? it would have been so much easier to just come up with a different story.

@jamiengo2343

2 жыл бұрын

@@ig14tesjahrhundert79 who does she think built that massive building in the middle of Rome called the Colosseum? Aliens?

@guro_girl

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamiengo2343 i think she says that it was built by the greeks ? or that’s what she seems to have said about most roman architecture

@bluebird3281

2 жыл бұрын

@@rcic3706 Because the roman empire spread through Europe and left ruins everywhere from Wales to Germany.

i replied to her with a publication regarding a dig I worked in about roman coins. she insulted me for "digging stuff on my own". The paper was published by the university...

@tfordham13

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@angelmoreno6577

Жыл бұрын

Basically she is enemy of the knowledge

I don't understand why someone would do this, your credibility is precious and once you lose it you don't get it back. Tossing it completely out the window for internet clout is an awful idea!

I love the trick they try to pull of not showing what they think the letters are next to the historical text. I wonder why theyre so afraid to let us see these things side by side

There’s probably people out there that believe in Atlantis but think Rome was made up.

@HerbaMachina

2 жыл бұрын

Both are most definitely real. However the real Atlantis has nothing to do with what pop culture likes to depict it as.

@SoakintheSchadenfreude

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerbaMachina Atlantis was made up by Plato. Cities sink though and there may be an actual power that Atlantis was based off of.

@vanguardoftruth4166

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoakintheSchadenfreude Atlantis wasnt "made up" by Plato. Show me a source of literature where Plato pulled Atlantis out of his ass

@waterloo32594

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanguardoftruth4166 show me any document or evidence for Atlantis from before Plato. You can’t, but I’ll wait.

@eazy8579

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanguardoftruth4166 The Timaeus and the Critias, where Plato actually says it’s fictional and that he made it up as a thought example

I can literally go for a 20 minute walk here in the U.K. and find Roman pottery sticking out of the ground. It’s all over the damn place. Whoever fabricated this conspiracy did a great job of hiding Roman coins all over our countryside too 😂

@Queenmariacorvinus

Жыл бұрын

No lie. We still have bits of Hadrian’s Wall. True dedication to litter an entire island. 🤣😂 Omg I hate TikTok & this new generation.

@chrishayhurst3005

Жыл бұрын

No one noticed the Spanish inquisition building hadrians wall ! 🤔🤦‍♂️

@ericpilkington6298

Жыл бұрын

Pottery and roman coins can exist, its just dated incorrectly

@abacus892

Жыл бұрын

@@Queenmariacorvinus In fairness, there are plenty of boomer conspiracy theorists, I don't think we can blame gen z for this

@szarekhthesilent2047

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishayhurst3005 You only see what you expect to see. And no one expects the Spanish Inquisition. I'll see myself out.

Excellent response video! Can you please do one on the "Tartarian Empire" conspiracy? By the way, your time stamp image for "The Altar of Mercurius Gibrinius" is incredibly creepy---it shows the tiktoker emerging from behind you like some Japanese horror monster.

As an university student from Italy which is currently studying Ancient Mediterranean History,, this whole conspiracy makes me laugh A LOT, but I am kinda curious. I would love to read a fantasy book from them, it would definitely be awesome if they have this much fervid imagination!

@catsinwonderland7473

6 ай бұрын

EXACTLY. We all love escapism and creativity but there's a line between fantasy and reality. I love the wild theories but I don't wanna endorse conspiracy theorists 😂

For a portuguese native it's so weird hearing someone say latin didn't exist. Portuguese was born of vulgar latin, as were other romantic languages, and in 1290 was oficialized has a national language.

@SA-5247

2 жыл бұрын

Just ignore them.. these types in America usually have the other characteristics that most would see as a liability..

@melissasaint3283

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I assume any philologists watching the videos were either laughing or holding their heads while screaming

@chavaspada

2 жыл бұрын

This tiktoker is a racist anglo supremacist hence why she blames the Spanish (anglo culture is pride in protestantism and hatred towards catholicism) and says all the art was produced by victorians (again anglo supremacy), it's just a cope to diminish the accomplishment of "non-whites" (mediterraneans, asians, middle easterns, egyptians, american natives) similar to the "ancient aliens" theory, since us, "non-whites" (a.k.a not anglo saxon) had huge empires while the "superior anglo saxons" still lived in mudhuts, it's inconceivable for these racists to accept our history and acheivements, or accept the fact that mediterraneans conquered them.

@melissasaint3283

2 жыл бұрын

@@chavaspada Are you familiar with her, is she really? (If so, yuck) Btw, as a Catholic, I am painfully aware of the terrible historical effects of anglocentrism, the "Black Legend", etc. They still affect out textbooks in the US! And I doubt we would have sh*tty horror movies about stuff like possessed nuns without it.

@chavaspada

2 жыл бұрын

@@melissasaint3283 No, I don't know her personally but the way she speaks and how her "theory" is based it just screams anglocentrism to me.

So that language I spent years learning was…Roman? And invented in the 1500’s? And the fact that I can understand Spanish, Italian, Romanian, Portuguese from their “Roman” roots ?! I can’t even….

@alexhauser5043

Жыл бұрын

Latin is indeed 'Roman'. It was originally only the language of those living in the immediate vicinity of Rome (then Latium, now Lazio).

@peterroberts7684

Жыл бұрын

where did the Latin script we use come from??,,tik tok dulls brain matter for sure..

@quadrupleflatthumbstomegai1868

Жыл бұрын

​@@peterroberts7684 Byzantium

@vilhelmhammershoi3871

Жыл бұрын

Same here. does that mean taht our understanding of all these languages makes us..... Romiscuous?

This is the first video of yours I've seen and you have an amazing voice for video essays like this.

What disturbs me the most about conspiracy theories is that no matter how insane they sound to anyone willing to question them, even a little bit, there will always be people who believe them for no reason at all except to maybe be contrarians, to suit their own personal biases/agenda, or to profess that they're "awake" while everyone else are sheep/asleep/etc. Thank you so much for all of the hard work you do! Your videos have taught me so much - I love history and learning and truly enjoy everything you do. If you haven't already done one, I would love to see a video on the Library of Alexandria or even just on ancient libraries!

She’s a good argument for bringing the study of the classics and classical civilization back to our schools.

@meddle98

2 жыл бұрын

True but I also don't trust the education system, especially the current one in America, not to hire people just like her to write the curriculum. If the nonsense I was taught about the American civil war in high school is enough to go on, they aren't the most capable people when it comes to teaching reliable information

@neferuaten3954

2 жыл бұрын

is it not a regular part of the history curriculum as soon as you get that subject? :o Am not asking to sound holier than thou, am genuinelly curious. How is history taught over there? We learn it chronologically neandrethals onwards to ww2 and then moving onto history specific to your own country, in the duration from 5th grade (middleschool) to end of highschool (unless in a vocation school, then no history classes after middleschool)

@dolnyslazak4721

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... yeah, you should. As someone who comes from a country in which ancient history is taught in every school as a part of history lessons, I seriously cannot believe that it's even possible to think those civilizations didn't exist, lmao

@forresthenry9535

2 жыл бұрын

We used to learn the history behind the ideas and events that led up to and influenced the American Revolution then we move onto the Revolution and the rest of American history, good and bad parts included. Now most American students are taught only the awful parts and being told that any kind of positive influence the United States had was either minimal or just a freakish anomaly that had nothing to do with American ideals. Any attempt to talk about the good America or any Western nation has done is met with the accusation “You are ignoring history!”

@ezachleewright2309

2 жыл бұрын

Hm. Maybe. But remember the quality of the American education system

Apparently, she's given up on "deconstructing" the Roman Empire. Her recent videos have been about singing duets, her sexuality, and dancing the Macarena.

@johnnierichardson3289

Жыл бұрын

Let me guess, a lesbo.

@FlavoredPanda76

Жыл бұрын

She's still doing it she's created a second account because her first got blocked

@McKamikazeHighlander

Жыл бұрын

oh no, she's now making stuff up about British Archaeology. As someone with an archaeological background, I can tell you she's full of sh*t

@chthulu27

Жыл бұрын

She's a perfect example of the mindset of "critical theorists": no knowledge is real, everything is only power, math is racist, etc. To the point of absurdity.

@WarFoxThunder

Жыл бұрын

​@@FlavoredPanda76 Lmao rip bozo

Thanks for taking the time to debunk this absurd nonsense. I really think the current vogue for conspiratorial thinking might be the end of us! The effort required for thorough debunking is so great that few are willing or able to get involved, understandably so in many cases when people have much better and more productive ways to spend their time. What a world.....

@Lagrangeify

Жыл бұрын

It seems a key characteristic of conspiracy theory is that it cannot be countered with contrary evidence because that is in itself proof of the conspiracy. As kids we might put our fingers in our ears and "lalalalala" as loudly as possible so as not to hear the dreaded command to "go to bed!". This is the grown up version of that.

Hi!!! I just discovered your channel.... I dont love history, it was actually my most hated class in school, I am pretty bad at remembering things. But I do love interrsting rants of any kind. And its so satisfying to me to watch a smart, beautiful, eloquent woman talk straight facts so graciously, you even made me interested and want to look into some of the history loool From one woman to another, keep up the good content! I will def be checking out more of your channel 😁💕

@reginamartinez7018

Жыл бұрын

Btw sorry for any misspeled words or if something reads weird.... english is not my first language 😅

Imagine my surprise being an archaeologist that specialises in Roman history and the Roman military to hear that Rome and Romans never existed. Those pesky monks must have been wizards who somehow planted archaeological features and artefacts within undisturbed stratigraphic layers. Well they fooled me!

@Mangaka-ml6xo

Жыл бұрын

The Vatican sent their most elite squad of "Archeological ninja monks" they were trained in secret in the hidden dojo under teh Holy city. I know, I used to be one of the masonic guard posted inside to protect our secrets!

@jadeknowsbest1674

Жыл бұрын

Of course it was wizards. What else could it possibly be? /s

@blixer8384

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how those Catholic Monks convinced the Orthodox Greeks to call themselves Rhōmaîoi.

@skylar7740

Жыл бұрын

@GOTL8 get over yourself freak

@LoisoPondohva

Жыл бұрын

​@@blixer8384"trust me dude, it's gonna be hilarious" Justinian: say no more

I love how that woman simply chooses to ignore the leter "C" in "Caesar", when the ancient Greek alphabet didn't even have a "C". It went alpha, beta, gamma, delta, etc.

@martinhorvath4117

2 жыл бұрын

@@felixoupopote kappa?

@onslaughtmp

2 жыл бұрын

Another word with the letter C comes to mind for some reason 😀

@odd-arnedahle2173

2 жыл бұрын

She didn't ignore it. She still believe it is written long after. Remember all the ancient scholors are considered greek scholors, not roman, not egyptian, not turkish.

@warbossgrotsmasha23

2 жыл бұрын

the greek version of C was K

@abdiabdi3225

2 жыл бұрын

@@odd-arnedahle2173 well they wouldn't be Turkish as they cam after the battle manzikert in 1071 which also caused the crusades

Hello! I just saw the title of this video and I HAD to watch it. First time viewer. Wow! Bear Ears is a real piece of work isn’t she? 😮 I completely agree with you that she is hard to listen to. So condescending and yet so ignorant. Quite a combination. Now I don’t hold a degree, but I’ve always been fascinated with archaeology and ancient civilizations. I was even lucky enough to take a year of Latin in high school. So I must say your translation about Caesar made way more sense than some miming purple lions. 😂😂😂 That was too funny! She sounds American and based on other things I’ve seen where random people from the US are quizzed about things outside their country, many of them (not all - I realize some are highly educated) haven’t got a clue about world history, geography, or languages other than English and Spanish.

I used to follow her and this incident was what made me unfollow. The lies really got to me because I liked her personally. And yes, the 6 lilac mime lions sent me to the fainting couch.

I have to say, as a teacher, I appreciate your criticisms of her debating style more than your expert arguments on Roman history. You are absolutely right, never let anyone talk to you like this. This tiktoker's tone is so childish its pretty much unbearable.

@stereodreamer23

2 жыл бұрын

You've obviously not been involved with University-level Academia in the last decade or so. ;-) Pretty much anyone with any kind of "power" in any of the Humanities disciplines in Academia has this demeanor these days--if you aren't on-board with their delusional, unhinged agenda, they treat you like you are some sort of toddler, and only use snarky, ad-hominem attacks to "debate" you, because they actually believe you can't understand their logic--which is true, because no rational person with any training in actual Critical Thinking CAN understand their twisted, delusional, and unhinged "logic"...

@josephmckenna5760

2 жыл бұрын

@@stereodreamer23 hahahahahha. And thank God for that.

@pedrocenturion7599

2 жыл бұрын

She maybe still be a child.

@purplerobin92

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedrocenturion7599 ...she looks at least 30

@Samtem88

2 жыл бұрын

Un-Bear-able, if you will.

As a student of history who specializes in Imperial Russia, the idea that the Romanovs wanted to hide some “Russian Horde” (gonna ignore the stereotyping of that) is laughable. If there was proof that ancestors of the Russian people ruled the world somehow that would have been a veritable gold mine for the Imperial propaganda machine. None of the tsars would have ever shut up about it. We’re also going to ignore the entire history of the Kyivan Rus and the early Slavic tribes I guess

@ragnarrklangsrok1685

2 жыл бұрын

@@GH23d7sL45 That whole area was steppe country periodically being overrun by horselord peoples, Scythians, Huns, Mongols, Cossacks etc. The Norse established trade routes to the Black Sea that became the foundation for future towns and principalities which native Slavs congregated around and Slavified.

@povilius

2 жыл бұрын

@@ragnarrklangsrok1685 "The Norse established trade routes to the Black Sea that became the foundation for future towns" when did they do that? What century?

@ZackeTheBrute

2 жыл бұрын

@@povilius When was burning and looting of Lindisfarne? Around that time, the Svea and Gothia vikings went east while the Danes and Norwegians went west.

@povilius

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZackeTheBrute oh, okey. So it was before Lithuania was formed

@ragnarrklangsrok1685

2 жыл бұрын

@@povilius Roughly 750 AD earliest known Norse settlements along Ladoga with official start of Kievan Rus in mid-Ninth century.

You're giving such Cicero vibes, I keep hearing "Bear Ears" as "Verres"

American Italian here. I appreciate your defense and truth of history, our ancestors surely would appreciate it

When I was a teenager visiting Rome I had to hide behind a column to laugh at the American tourist who genuinely said “do you think they found one pillar here and built the rest as a tourist attraction?” Never knew that person went on to be a Tiktoker

@ikapatino3214

2 жыл бұрын

My friend "why did they built the Alamo in the middle of the city"?

@StudioHannah

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh… as an American I apologize for the stupidity of some of my fellows. The rest of us try, we try so hard… 😭

@indeliblyronnie

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think that means they were doubting the existence of Rome… that’s a common tourism tactic. Embellish reality a little to make it sell better. They probably just weren’t expecting to see so much so close together. In America, our historical sites are pretty sparse. Why assume the worst and then paint other, unrelated ppl with that brush? You were immature to laugh and haven’t matured since, it looks like

@VenomHalos

2 жыл бұрын

@@indeliblyronnie Wow, I was with you until you decided to belittle Molybdomancer for a perfectly reasonable reaction to a ridiculous question. Have you been to Rome? The number of ruined structures is incredible, and thinking that someone would’ve (or even could’ve) built all that just for tourism is completely absurd.

@stefangadshijew1682

2 жыл бұрын

@@indeliblyronnie How is laughing about that stuff immature? This is objectively hilarious. Laughing is the most lighthearted and least mean response I could think of in such a situation.

Also it's pretty charitable to say she "wasn't able to find more information", as opposed to she literally did not even try because conflicting information is bad for her narrative.

@rudylutz2085

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, thank you very much. I would like to point out, though, that not only far right people change history, but the far left as well. "There is no history before 1917" is a prime example of this attitude, courtesy of the Bolsheviks. Once again, thank you very much.

@thecoolaxolotlnova8523

2 жыл бұрын

@@rudylutz2085 did you mean to put this on a reply to a comment here?

@thecoolaxolotlnova8523

2 жыл бұрын

Yea pretty much any unstable belief system or belief crumbles under and therefore refuses to acknowledge opposing information.

@andrewfranquelin3184

2 жыл бұрын

@@rudylutz2085 yikes

I've just discovered this, and I'd forgotten how angry she made me! Thanks so much for explaining all of it! I didn't believe her, but a lot of the responses to it all were on tiktok and so were very short. It was an incredible learning journey! Thanks!

I think I love this video more than any other video you've done. You're passion for the subject definitely shows here. One criticism though - It's Professor Bear Ears!

I'm Italian. I'm not feeling insulted at all. I'm just so pissed that in high school I had to study and translate both greek and latin language and was never able to figure out that they were the same language! Shame on me! About Dante... He was so ahead of his time that it is not a surprise that he could refer to a language invented hundreds of years after is death! And use it too (Dante wrote in latin a great deal of works). As a matter of fact, is flattering for us italians her amazing idea that we could persuade all of europe (and not only europe) to participate in our great fictional project and disseminate roman artifacts all over a continent, write on the bible about the roman interference in jesus trial, build a wall in the middle of uk and name it from some Adrian guy (a waiter in the disneyromancircus, I suppose), and gain the astounding cooperation of a volcano in covering the great fictional set of pompei!! Ok that was not so nice from us, all those actors burned alive maybe were not necessary... But hey! According to this lady "italians are fascists" so it all makes sense. 🤦

@arisacupcake

Жыл бұрын

Heavily underrated comment

@MD-yd8lh

Жыл бұрын

Underrated

@NotChefCook

Жыл бұрын

Matta da legare , questa . E che faccia da SCHIAFFI ! Sissi , tutti i nostri antenati , cosa , non son mai esistiti ??

@shannap.lawnerd8107

Жыл бұрын

🎯💯👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🤌🏽💋

@Baccanaso

Жыл бұрын

@Roygbiv Etruscan isn't related to Latin or Greek, and Latin is closer to Celtic Languages and Germanic Languages than it is to Greek.

Its a striking difference when you see a genuine historian or intellectual versus a fake.

@joshc1981

2 жыл бұрын

It's like seeing Tyson Fury taken on a youtuber or even an amateur boxer.

@bobbybalogne2565

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshc1981 well that hasn’t happened yet so we don’t know

@joshc1981

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobbybalogne2565 no, it would 3ven be a contest. Tyson has been doing ot far longer and is far better at it than any of those stains to the boxing industry will ever be.

@zombiekilla7463

2 жыл бұрын

she was high on spices

@TheseUseless

2 жыл бұрын

you can tell they're intellectual because they use smart words. Yeah.

I love how you say "Bear ears" 🤣

Oh my god, I remember this lady from the short time I had tiktok. For a while my fyp was full of historians refuting her. It was facinating, great to learn the real history but worrying that this was a thing that happened. Thanks for another entertaining and educational debunk of this person's bs, this was fun!

Even we in Sri Lanka have historical records of dealings with Rome (they called our country Taprobane). These are from roughly 1500 years before the Spanish Inquisition. We had very little limited dealings with the Spanish Inquisition. By the way, I have to commend the generosity of the Spanish Inquisition in building better monuments in Rome than in their own country.

@heilwyrnzahkul3065

2 жыл бұрын

The Spanish inquisition speared no expense in propaganda XD

@133774c05

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition

@PauloSousa86

2 жыл бұрын

portuguese inquisition feels downgraded, compared to the spanish :P🤣🤣🤣

@b_ziurserolf

2 жыл бұрын

That's because nobody expects the spanish inquisition 🤣 (sorry i can't hold my self from the monty phyton reference)

@nastasedr

2 жыл бұрын

@@133774c05 LOL

I think it's so funny and frustrating when Bear-Ears points out the similarities between the Latin, Greek, and Phoenician alphabets like it's some kind of epic own. It's not exactly a secret that the Latin alphabet was derived from the Greek alphabet, and if you do any amount of research or study on the early archaic period, you'll find that the Greek alphabet is derived from the Phoenician alphabet! It's not a secret or any evidence of a conspiracy, just a natural consequence of how alphabets and languages evolve.

@Aar1sW

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't both Greek and Latin are derived from Phoenician? Even though Latin probably also had been heavily influenced by Greek at later times.

@henrywong2725

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aar1sW Latin alphabet is derived from the Greek alphabet through the Etruscans, specifically from a Western variant rather than the version we are familiar with

@carlwalker9635

2 жыл бұрын

People like you speak with an exaggerated Ego, and assume your educated, but your not. Latin derives from Etrucian, not Greek. There was no "Greek" nation, until 1832 A.D. Ancient Greece and Rome were fabricated histories.

@killerbug05

Жыл бұрын

"aha gotcha, Spain never existed till the 1900s dumbass, because spanish it's very clearly just italian everything Spanish predating 1900 is just Italian, the land we think was "Spain" is actually just Italy 😑🙄"

@YouTubeSupportSucks

Жыл бұрын

Duning-Kruger Effect

Sorry to have found this video so late. I love your comprehensive investigation and delivery. Great work. Subbed.

Just discovered your content. I deeply respect you and your efforts in keeping history preserved, unchanged and away from those who look to use it for their own gain. Also you look super pretty without makeup :)

I'm amazed that apparently all the Victorians knew Hebrew. You know, a dead language at the time usually only spoken with any regularity by rabbi and was constantly under threat with each genocide and exile of the jews... But apparently "the Victorian's" really just had that language as a trendy knowledge?

@LegiamasC-OnTwitta

2 жыл бұрын

At least it’s not that basilisk speak we know as Welsh….. Seriously how is that still a thing?

@Kaanfight

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they spoke a language that was reconstructed in the 1920s, they had a time machine obviously

@_letstartariot

2 жыл бұрын

Victorians could be quite antisemitic. Hebrew, a Semitic language. I’m really doubting they’d dedicate years of time to learn a language very different from English. What would the point be anyway?

@Kaanfight

2 жыл бұрын

@@_letstartariot to trick modern historians obviously

@ntos6761

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kaanfight🇬🇧 *The long ruse in a long game* 🇬🇧

I was wondering who she was going to blame for "making up Ancient Rome"...I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

@ohnonotthemagain7088

Жыл бұрын

Nobody does.

@EvanEdwards

Жыл бұрын

And here I am, sitting in my comfy chair.

@RauchenWir

Жыл бұрын

Her three tools were deception, misinformation, condescension, and lies. Yes, the four tools, deception, misinformation, condescension, lies, and fanatical devotion to view counts. FIVE tools...

@jadeknowsbest1674

Жыл бұрын

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! LOL

@castlerock58

Жыл бұрын

That's a hint that she's a Monty Python fan. Her humor seems similar to some of their stuff. Her argument that a column can't be a column if it has a spiral staircase cracked me up.

Plleeeeeeaaaaseeee make more social media-history-debunk videos!!!! They are devine and you're my favorite youtuber!

Hey I just saw this! I'm a junior researcher at a german university and working on my PhD, but I specialize on (late) medieval studies. We are quasi colleagues. :D I didn't have a clue, you guys also had those people. I knew about our "Chronologiekritiker" (critics of chronology in German, they folloe the conspiracy that the middle ages did not exist) around here and found them odd enough, but man, these people. :D

Almost shocked that you didn't go into her assertion that Jesus Christ's name actually means "Clitoris Healer" in ancient Greek-- or the suggestion that Alexander The Great was a woman because why else would Alexandria be called AlexandrIA? Those are the ones that just floored me. Absolutely surreal.

@Skullnaught

2 жыл бұрын

Wait WHAT

@MarketableUsername

2 жыл бұрын

She has an actual degree doesn't she? She went to a college and came out like this.

@Skullnaught

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarketableUsername some people did some digging and its likely she lied about her degrees

@MarketableUsername

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Skullnaught Thank god, but with these modern universities you never know.

@NotJonJost

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skullnaught Look up the Insider article "A history TikToker's viral claim that Ancient Rome 'didn't exist' is getting backlash from academics". In the end, there are links to two of her tiktoks about clitoris healer and Alexandra The Greatess that made me have to sit down and recover from pure bewilderment.

"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities" Voltaire. After decades of aggressive anti intellectualism we are really reaping the consequences.

@jayeisenhardt1337

Жыл бұрын

I can kinda understand why there is anti intellectualism when the soft sciences and academia spout off nonsense just like this all the time.

@MalakianM2S

Жыл бұрын

@@jayeisenhardt1337 You call it soft science, but is not science at all, but I see your point. Edit: Now that I read your comment again, it's not academia spouting nonsense, is this kind of clout chasing quack.

As an history teacher, I applaud you for the analytical work done against this manipulation. Today are great times for history but also dagerous one because with internet people like her can spread lies upon less educated. Even today in France a rap singer (maitre Gims) claimed that Ancient Egypt had electricity (through the pyramids) ... hoppefuly, nobody took him seriously. But more concerning is the future "Documentary" from Netflix (may, 10 , 2023) about Cleopatra that will show us a black Cleopatra VII... and Im afraid that some of my students (especially those of sub-Saharan African origin) will be inclined to believe this.

I just found your channel today and already watched 4 of your videos. Love, love, love the amount of information and how you present it. This debunking is a work of art!!!! Just wanted to say that the reason those people do what they do is just clout chasing. They do it for reaction and comments. The more reaction and comments, the more "fame" but also the monetary gain they get. Back to watch more of your videos!!!!

... she mentioned Dendrochronology... Dendrochronology is specifically doing an estimation based on visible growth rings in wooden structures compared to core samples from other trees in the area, it has literally nothing to do with testying Papyrus, parchment, or paper.

@jadedoak6255

2 жыл бұрын

But it has six syllables!

@maxjohnson1758

2 жыл бұрын

Carbon dating is used for paper/papyrus and organic matter in general. That tik tok woman is just continuing the trend to try and erase and/or vilify European culture and history.

@31tentacles

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxjohnson1758 Perdon my ignorance; is the word "vilify" related to "villain"? this is not my first language, never heard the word before, but I prefer to ask a human than ask Google.

@MrCynthis

2 жыл бұрын

@@31tentacles yeah it means 'to be painted as a villain' Usually it is used when the accusations are untrue/slanderous

@taram9409

2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

Linguistically speaking, reverse engineering a language so that it appears that many modern languages are derived from it, is a more impressive feat than all the architecture they forged.

@beth7935

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, that was one of my first thoughts! (After "wtf is she smoking??" & "can we please make spreading misinformation illegal?")

@micahbonewell5994

Жыл бұрын

@@beth7935 Although I think in some way this person should be stopped, making spreading misinformation illegal would be a bad idea, because who gets to decide what is misinformation? It could easily lead to governmental censorship by whatever party is in power. This was one of the problem with the Soviet Union, as Stalin was put in a similar position.

@vladtheimpala5532

Жыл бұрын

@@micahbonewell5994 Yes 👍

@vladtheimpala5532

Жыл бұрын

@@beth7935 ​I’m sure your intentions are honorable but for the reasons Micah Bonewell cited and because it would be unconstitutional (at least in the United States) the fact that you think spreading misinformation should be illegal and that at least four people agreed with you is extremely concerning to me. I’m not in favor of spreading misinformation but if you make one kind of speech illegal then you no longer have freedom of speech. What if a party comes to power that only wants you to hear its propaganda so it labels truth as lies and forbids dissent? We’ve already seen certain social media platforms frivolously labeling inconvenient information, as misinformation simply because they didn’t want it getting out. They hire “fact checkers” with an agenda and without proper qualifications to suppress factual information and opinions that they deem inappropriate simply because they disagree with it or find it threatening. The Biden administration even tried to institute a 1984 style “Ministry of Truth”. They didn’t call it that of course but that’s what it was. They were going to put that lady who thinks she’s Mary Poppins in charge. Freedom of speech is very important and making the government the arbiter of truth is very dangerous. The only way I can see to battle misinformation is to counter it with correct information the way Lady of the Library is doing here. It’s very unfortunate but the world is, always has been and likely always will be flawed. There’s no way to make it foolproof. People need to learn to think critically rather than just believing what they see on the news, what their favorite politicians say or what they see on the internet (especially on TikTok🙄).

Another piece of textual evidence is the Middle English poem 'Sir Gawain in the Green Knight' composed in the late 1300's, 100 years before the Spanish Inquisition. It mentioned Romulus as the founder of Rome right in the first chapter of part 1. In the Middle Spanish 'Cantar de mio Cid' Rome is also mentioned at the beginning in the First Canto #18. This was composed between 1140 - 1270 AD. So, Rome appears in a wide variety of texts across Western Europe that were written in what would be archaic language before the Spanish Inquisition would have fabricated Rome after 1478 AD.

First of all you’re my favorite person right now. My friend is a PhD candidate at Yale and got her start cleaning artifacts for the Bob Bullock (?) here in Austin, Tx. I remember her telling me how difficult it was to clean artifacts because you can damage them while cleaning and over clean them. In fact you remind me very much of my friend 🙂

It's beautifully ironic how she called the stories of the Roman empire's culture "bread and circuses" when that phrase came about based on our knowledge of the Roman empire's culture.

@Callimo

2 жыл бұрын

lol right??? It's times like this I wish time travel was an actual thing :p

@SonsOfLorgar

2 жыл бұрын

@@Callimo she wouldn't last a minute against the circus lions. That makes for a poor show ;)

@RikkaP

2 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar and if they were lilac or mauve and mining?

@DeathRex88

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that was a intentional jab but perhaps I'm giving her more credit than she deserves

@TheTsalop

2 жыл бұрын

History of gladiators few decades ago: Slaves and poor people who were forced to participate to this sadistic bloodsports for the rich people enterntainment... Every fight in Coliseum ended with slaughter of the failed gladiators.. History of gladitors decade ago: A respected profession similar to modern day sports that gave people like slaves and the poor a change to gain enough money to start a new life as a free person... Majority of deaths were accidental.. History now: Rome is fake so were gladiators.

Is it just me or does the womans whole argument against Rome wittle down to, "church bad victorians bad therefore Rome isnt a thing." Swear to God thats the only real thing I get when she sums it up.

@CollinBuckman

Жыл бұрын

I wanna see this TikTok lady argue with one of the people who claims Christianity was invented by Emperor Constantine, that'd be a funny debate. "Rome was invented by the Church" vs "The Church was invented by Rome" lmao

@betsyb2256

Жыл бұрын

Her tik tok is gone 😆

@sonofjack6286

Жыл бұрын

@@betsyb2256 Sooo, WE'VE WON! *ROMA VICTIX*

@instathrill8845

Жыл бұрын

@@betsyb2256 she got Alex Jones'd hopefully haha

@alby8357

Жыл бұрын

@@CollinBuckman not so false tho. Emperor Constantine quite "created" Christianity during the Nicean Council by deciding which Vangelis where right and which were not (this is why there are so called Vangeli Apocrifi, sorry don't know hot to translate that) because he quite needed the assistance of the church cause the empire weren't in all that good shape at the time

I just love your video, I would have so much fun having intellectual conversations with you about the Ancient world. You are amazing!

I watch a lot of conspiracy theory content (and even more content that debunks those "theories") and I think that's probably why the algorithm sent me to this video, but I'm glad it did because looking through your videography, it looks like I have a new channel to binge. Your videos all look great and this one was extremely entertaining. I look forward to seeing more!

"Romans never existed!" "Latin was invented by the vatican" I guess all the neolatin languages are all a mass hallucination, in Italy we actually speak japanese and lie about our ancient sites for shits and giggles.

@lucstu8863

Жыл бұрын

And german cities along the rhine and danube rivers were also invented by the vatican and the battle of teutoburg forrest is actually a mass delusion.

@Sabrowsky

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, no, I can confirm, as a soon-to-graduate-from-university Brazilian linguist, I can confirm that Portuguese is just weird Russian and that is the real reason we're in the BRICS economic bloc alongside Russia

@Mangaka-ml6xo

Жыл бұрын

Sounds legit 👍 I always knew ancient Japanese invented pizzas and spaghettis!

@hedgehog3180

3 ай бұрын

Finland might be a Japanese fishing colony but Italy is just one big Japanese noodle factory.

I asked her how she explains the existence of my country that is literally named after the Roman Empire, and the fact that this Roman heritage helped us in history by making alliances with Italy especially, and her response?? "The Wallachians decided they were 'descended from Rome' in the 1500's." Someone get this woman off the internet before I do.

@marinaschulz3183

2 жыл бұрын

That isnt even consistent with her own theory that the Roman Empire was invented in the 1800s! And how does she explain the linguistic simmilarities between Romanian and the other latin languages, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish....?

@Nana-gm5zv

2 жыл бұрын

@@marinaschulz3183 idk man, but her answer kind of erases the Moldavians and Transylvanians and the whole 'Oh, yea, the Romanians just decided they were of Roman descent' really plays into the Immigrationist theory that Romanians weren't actually first in Transylvania because according to certain people, they weren't 'assimilated by the Romans', a theory which impacted the social and political life of Romanians living in Transylvania at the time the 'theory' emerged. (Her first mistake is assuming that the Christian denominations stand each other enough to lie about the same thing, honestly.)

@eduardmacovei4732

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, right, the pretty illiterate (at that time) inhabitants of Moldova and Wallachia were struck by this idea right at 1500. In one day they woke up and said: From now on, we are the descendants of Rome! I don't care what other people say! IT'S DECIDED!

@Nana-gm5zv

2 жыл бұрын

@@eduardmacovei4732 Yeah, as if my ancestors didn't have better things to worry about. It's not like the Hungarians and the Ottomans were constantly at our doors looking for the opportunity to invade them.

@eduardmacovei4732

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nana-gm5zv I know, they are my ancestors too 🤣🤣

I just came across this video and have to say that your voice is lovely. The video was also amazing keep up the good work

It’s a pleasure to hear you expand on subjects you appreciate but I couldn’t put myself through the baiting of the other person. Ps the reminder to never allow others to speak to you this way was touching.🦊

The fact that you cited your sources while also admitting that you (may have) made mistakes says a lot regarding your credibility. Well done. 👍

@CinziaDuBois

Жыл бұрын

Thank you (:

@AngryHistorian87

Жыл бұрын

@@CinziaDuBois you’re most welcome 😊

@RockinAfr0

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, respecting the scientific process and giving an opening to falsification, as scientific argumentation should be!

She's calling people who respond to her comments armchair experts while filming videos in her bedroom. I guess she believes irony doesn't exist either.

@Kevin-jb2pv

2 жыл бұрын

Here you go assuming this lady has enough class to be sitting in a "chair" and not "on top of a stack of milk crates she stole from behind 7-11 a couple of years ago when her and her friends got really, _really_ high one night."

@cursedseagullgames

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-jb2pv She doesn't really look like the type that would need to be high to steal crates from a 7-11 at 3 am.

@johnmccarron7066

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-jb2pv I mean, I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt....

This was wonderful. Thank you for all your effort and persistence, that nust have been tortuous! ❤️

thank you for breaking this down and explaining everything. I've never seen these videos before, but definitely did not like the abusive tone, but also, I was a general humanities major and know nothing about classical history or how to prove how historical something is, so I appreciate someone who does know explaining it.

My favorite part of any conspiracy theory is a lack of any reasonable motive for the conspiracy.

@aoki6332

Жыл бұрын

or the non exitance of any real proof and when you told evidence to contradict it they call fake and say its just fabrication to hide the truth

@andryuu_2000

Жыл бұрын

Some conspiracies are real tho, I mean, most are clearly illogical, but some political massive plots really happened or still happen.

@thundabolt7867

Жыл бұрын

​@@andryuu_2000 thing is that 1. Those correct theories have a motive that was part of the theory 2. There is no possible way that rome didnt exist But yeah your point does have merit in some form

@laisphinto6372

11 ай бұрын

bruh dont disrespect alex jones like that ,his theories make sense and he admitted being retarded

@wolfetteplays8894

11 ай бұрын

The Ministry of Truth didn’t have a motive either, and most news agencies these days aren’t too far off

I'd like to see how she explains documents from the Han Dynasty detailing architecture, customs, culture, flora and geography before Spain even existed. Unless of course the Chinese dynasties were gifted with incredible foresight and have been in on it this whole time.

@elfodelputoinfierno

2 жыл бұрын

They had 1500s vision

@michaelautrey6641

2 жыл бұрын

the chinese secretly invented spain just for this purpose. its a massive conspiracy going back thousands of years before rome. c'mon, it is so obvious.

@Ajehy

Жыл бұрын

You think China exists? Sheeple. (/s)

@DesolatedChild018

Жыл бұрын

You see, it wasn’t foresight, they were just doing a little alt universe fiction. The Spanish then got the idea from there. “Hey Hernando, check this shit it’s fire” “Pablo, this is great, we should make an ARG based on this” BTW these are direct translations of excerpts from the correspondence between a merchant and a priest dating back from, you guessed, the 1500s CHECKMATE ROMANITES!

@mondaysinsanity8193

Жыл бұрын

​@@DesolatedChild018 you almost made me wake my roommate from that CHECKMATE ROMANITES how dare you bless us with spontaneous refferences to Louisiana based historians

I hate to nit pick your excellent presentation, but i had heard you say ex cetera instead of et cetera, a number of times which shocked me, seeing it's of Latin origin. Thank you for the great work.