Thanks for the video. Just followed the instructions and adjusted chain on my 1050.

Thanks a lot. It a chain alignment tool. You sit it on the rear sprocket, see the red dot on the chain next to the sprocket then turn the wheel a bit so the light is now shining further down the chain. The dot should be at the same place all the way down the chain then you know it is straight.

Another great video! Many thanks Muddy Sump for taking the time to put these up, finding them essential for a Tiger newbie.

@MuddySump

6 жыл бұрын

+John Furniss 👍🏼

Thanks for all the posts! Just ordered my 16 800 xca and these videos will come in handy. Cheers!

@MuddySump

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's all pretty much the same on the new models too

Really well presented and easy to understand. Will look for more tips that I can do myself but nothing to complicated 👍

I also own a tiger and a DRZ. Thank you for your work and time. Have a great day.

They make a good combination. Thanks

Although I know how to do this it’s still great to watch, cheers!

Awesome vids. Definitely help with wrenching on my 800xc.

@MuddySump

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Thanks for the help. Excellent videos!

@MuddySump

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching :-)

awesome channel. Thanks for the chain remove and adjustment videos. About to take my tire in to have tube replaced after hitting a nail.

@MuddySump

4 жыл бұрын

👍🏼 problem with tubes, can’t just plug the tyre

Thanks

thank you

Good video very informative. I adjusted and cleaned my chain today on my Xrx as it had become loose since purchase in July 2017. The bike and chain are not as clean as yours, as I use it all year round in all weathers. I don't have a car so my bike is a means of transport on the daily commute. Cheers

@MuddySump

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Mine was my only transport too. Always had acf50 on my bike but still cleaned it off all the time. Didn’t trust it 😄

DuPont chain lube and degreaser have worked great over my last three bikes for ~130k miles. Rarely need to adjust chain compared with others lubes I've tried. Always spin my wheel by hand though, as I'm not getting my hands near a moving chain/spokes. ;)

I like the Motul C1 to clean the chain. It is a nice product, tough a bit expensive. I agree that it is dangerous to work on the rear wheel with the engine on but it is complicated to distribute the oil nicely if you spin it by hand.

@MuddySump

7 жыл бұрын

+Demetrio FILHO that why I just use paraffin. Can sometimes use a full can of chain cleaner on one clean.

@MuddySump

7 жыл бұрын

+Demetrio FILHO that why I just use paraffin. Can sometimes use a full can of chain cleaner on one clean.

Great video. One thing to note is not to spray the lube in the direction of tyre, that could be a slippery ride!

Great Videos, thanks v much for posting. Excellent level of detail and pace. What are you checking with the laser a 6.00mins? Is it a special tool?

@andymeier

2 жыл бұрын

Have a look at this demo: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y3Z1wa6gpK6pl84.html

Great vid. My Street triple uses a similar technique. Wondering if this can be done on a rear paddock stand as well?

@MuddySump

9 жыл бұрын

Hi. Yes it's the same. Since it's on the paddock stand you've already got the tension taken up that you should have with both wheels on the floor so can set the chain tension to the proper spec

Hi MuddySump, congrats for your tips and videos. I have some question about paraffin, you dissolves the paraffin in the water? Or buy liquid paraffin? thanks for all

@MuddySump

7 жыл бұрын

+Mateus Melara its liquid paraffin. Straight from the bottle

very good your videos. can show disassembly of the damper / spring assembly

@MuddySump

6 жыл бұрын

I don’t have the bike anymore

Great quality vid. Would it be an idea to shield the spray from hitting the wheel? A little bit of card hanging from the swing arm would do it?

@MuddySump

9 жыл бұрын

Yes can do. Could hold an old rag behind to coach the over spray

Is the 20-30mm the distance down from the swing arm when the chain is pushed up, or the total travel between upper and lower level? I looked this up in the Haynes manual and it’s not too clear. Love the video. Great breakdown including the spanner sizes and torque settings. Thanks for sharing your skills!

@MuddySump

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the distance from the chain at its lowest point to its highest point. I just use the swing arm to keep the tape measure in a set position

Could you explain why you put the spanner between the chain and sprocket while you tightened the wheel nut? I recently had a new rear tire fitted, and the mechanic did something similar, except he used a rag, not a spanner.

@MuddySump

7 жыл бұрын

+Muzz Litebeer it stops the wheel moving back when tightening the nut and making the chain tighter

Nice vid My DRZ's chain seems way too tight, i get about 35mm play between the sprockets on the lower part of the chain, (10mm down, 25mm up) with the bike on the side stand. But my back wheel is almost all of the way forward, meaning i cant loosen the chain much. Do you think i need a new chain or get another link put in? cheers

@MuddySump

9 жыл бұрын

Is it the right length chain you've got on already?

I'm changing the sprockets and doinng this of course. Can you tell me the torque setting for the front sprocket. I can't find a solid answer some people say 85 nm and some say like 100 something nm.

@MuddySump

7 жыл бұрын

+Sebastian Beretvas hi. It's 85Nm

Great job on these videos man! It is really helping me out with my Tiger 800 XCX. Only thing is I didn't understand what you said you where dipping the chain brush in?

@MuddySump

8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Nolet thanks. It's paraffin. Kerosene in the US

@JJsiN84

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Think I'm going to have to have one of those chain alignment tools :-)

@MuddySump

9 жыл бұрын

The tigers chain alignment points on the swinging arm are pretty accurate already.

@mikemccanna8548

7 жыл бұрын

Sadly they didnt bother to put those on the '15+ - What tool is that? I didnt hear it mentioned.

Hey @MuddySump - quick question. Trying to figure out exactly where the halfway point is on the swing arm so I can accurately check the chain slack. In the video you just say it's halfway between the front / back sprocket. I'm having a hard time locating that point without taking off the shifter mechanism so I can access the front sprocket cover so I can take an accurate measurement. Is there not some sort of mark on the swing arm? There is so much exacting information with NM settings, chain slack parameters (20-30 mm), etc. that I'm surprised it's not an exact mark. Is this an exact point for checking or is it more of a general eyeball halfway point?

@MuddySump

7 жыл бұрын

+Matt McLelland yea, it's not that accurate 🙂 just by look

I was wondering if you could show how to adjust the suspension on the rear ? I have a 2012 800xc and the book sais it has adjustable rear shock but I have no idea . it feels stiff in the rear . thank you again so much

@MuddySump

3 жыл бұрын

If you look at it from the right hand side near the top you will see an adjuster that you can turn with a flat screwdriver or an 8or10mm socket. I haven’t got one anymore to show you

@pigeonpallz1733

3 жыл бұрын

@@MuddySump thank you ! I was looking on the wrong side lol . what did you replace your tiger with ?

@MuddySump

3 жыл бұрын

qBMOp I just went back to riding dirt bikes for a while but now have an air cooled bonnie as well. Don’t have much time to ride any of them anymore though 😅

@pigeonpallz1733

3 жыл бұрын

@@MuddySump if riding is something you enjoy then I hope time comes again for you . your videos gave me the confidence to work on my bike and the confidence to go farther because I could change a tire and fix thins on my bike . it may sound silly but I believe I can and I normally am filled with doubt . thank you again for taking the time to make videos and answer questions .

If the bike is on the center stand, what is the slack on the chain? Also 20-30mm?

@MuddySump

7 жыл бұрын

+Tomek no. Needs to be checked with both wheels on the ground. It usually tightens when you put it down

How frequently should the chain be cleaned and what tyres do you have thanks?

@MuddySump

3 жыл бұрын

Depends what kind of riding you do really. If it’s looking dirty and full of road grime give it a clean and lube. The tyres were the standard scorpions that came fitted to the bike. I never had to replace them when I had it

Great video,dosent paraffin degrade the o rings of the chain??

@MuddySump

5 жыл бұрын

Never had any problems with it

What is the adjuatment for regular tiger 800 non XC? Same 20-30mm or less?

@MuddySump

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. It used to be less but got changed to the same tension on all models

Great vid, however, I would suggest NEVER have your engine running whilst working on your chain, I have seen horrific hand injuries in my time. (I work in x-ray)

@MuddySump

8 жыл бұрын

Seen a few pictures of missing finger tips now.

@jasgol1

8 жыл бұрын

Yea, one minute you're merrilly cleaning your chain and then suddenly you only have two fingers left! not good.

So if I got it right, the free play of the chain is bigger when on center stand ? So the 20-30mm is on center stand or side stand ? Nice video by the way ! Helps a lot !

@MuddySump

10 жыл бұрын

20-30mm is when the bike is upright with both wheels on the ground. If you adjust it on the centre stand the chain will tighten when the wheels are on the floor

today, while adjusting the chain, after unlocking the axle nut and the 2 lockouts I got stuck when the offside bolt for the adjustment wouldn't move. I managed to turn it maybe at urn at best but nothing more than that. I'm worried I could end up braking it. Has this ever happened to you before? Do you have any advice for it? thank you

@MuddySump

8 жыл бұрын

It's what I fear every time I go to turn them. They are known to seize in. Best to take the wheel off and try it with a socket instead of a spanner. Squirt wd40 on the bolt inside the swingarm and let it soak for a bit. There's holes on the inside of the swingarm and they let dirt and water in onto the bolt.

@ketamyna

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'll try it. Had both tires replaced with the pilot 4 trail and the guy didn't do any adjustment. So I did it myself but the bolt was stuck. Probably previous owner never checked it, considering what I've found on the chain too. I'll spray wd40 and leave it overnight then I'll take the wheel off and try with a socket. Thanks again. 

Hi Muddy Sump. I tried the method you have demonstrated here and am finding my chain has accumulated significant wax build up plus it wasnt nearly as clean as your was in this video. My Grungebrush caked up much hot wax and was nearly unusable after about 5 minutes of cleaning. What am I doing wrong?

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

Where’s the hot wax coming from?

@Irinaha

2 жыл бұрын

@@MuddySump i basically melt the wax in a stainless steel pot and once it has boiled down to a liquid apply it using my grunge brush.

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t use wax. It’s just a liquid. Paraffin, kerosene in the US. If it’s wax it will turn back into a wax when it cools

@Irinaha

2 жыл бұрын

@@MuddySump ok, would you mind sharing the product?

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

Paraffin/kerosene.

there's one thing I don't get. when you move the chain up and down, it seems to me it moves a lot, let's say a good 6 7 cm. shouldn't it move just 2 or 3 cm max?

@MuddySump

8 жыл бұрын

Is that not just at the start when it's slack? When it's set it should be 20-30mm when it's on the ground

@ketamyna

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Is that on the centre stand at the time?

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

I’m adjusting it on the centrestand. The proper free play should be checked with the wheels on the ground though.

MuddySump What is the tool you used to loosen the axel nut?

@MuddySump

9 жыл бұрын

Hi, it was just a 27mm socket on a 1/2" drive ratchet.

@michaelbennett8847

8 жыл бұрын

+MuddySump 12 point or 6 point work best for that?

@MuddySump

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Bennett mine was 12 point.

@michaelbennett8847

8 жыл бұрын

+MuddySump Thanks! Hobby is expensive. Farkles and tools! :-) What laser did you use? Profi?

@MuddySump

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Bennett yes, I think it was. I never use it, the marks are all pretty accurate on bikes now

according to manual: 20 - 30mm of play on the XC, 15 to 25 mm on the road-model

@MuddySump

10 жыл бұрын

There was a service bulletin out, cant remember what number it was but both models are 20-30 mm now.

@ludodg

10 жыл бұрын

MuddySump allright, thx!

You could have explained counter vs clockwise in tightening the chain or loosening it.

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

Loosen the bolt to push the axle backwards.

Why lube the chain from the side and outer side?. I’ve heard it’s not useful and only adds more lube on non fraction points which makes the chain collect more dirt

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

Stop it getting rusty

@MutasemHalawani

2 жыл бұрын

@@MuddySump that’s a good point. Thanks for the reply :)

@MutasemHalawani

2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to check the slack without removing the chain rubbing guide?

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

@@MutasemHalawani yes. You don’t remove the chain guide to adjust the chain.

are ya still working 🤔🤔

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

Yes still working

@craigpalmer347

2 жыл бұрын

@@MuddySump nice 1 handy to know just bought a bike and a service reciept was in the pack off you 👍👍

Your practice is ok BUT the thing you might want to edit out or never show is .....YOU DONT EVER work on the rear wheel with the motor on!!!!!! That sure is a quick way to lose your fingers. That part just blew me away holy crap that was scary ... All that work don't be lazy turn the wheel with your free hand .... i mean you took all the time to do this and then in the end say a quick way ????? hahah

@LividAxis

6 жыл бұрын

RMC Moto Rick get the fuck out of here with that shit

@thesupermariu

5 жыл бұрын

You're hilarious Rick hahaha

@DavidWebb-rz3vi

Ай бұрын

Hey there Snowflake Rick!

Great video! I assume it is ok to adjust the chain tension while on the side stand? As have an XRX Low that doesn't have a side stand. Thanks!

@MuddySump

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but just check the tension again when the bikes upright

@bigbluechopper24

2 жыл бұрын

@@MuddySump Thank you!

You shouldnt adjust chain while on a stand (at least according to the manual)

@MuddySump

5 жыл бұрын

It’s easier and I think I say in the video to check it on the floor afterwards