4231 has to be next. Another influential formation. And then the rise of 352. But for me, I’m more interested in the 343 diamond formation.

@les_crow

2 жыл бұрын

343 diamond formation? I've ever heard of that.

@nadadur

2 жыл бұрын

@@les_crow No formal wide defenders

@fishyfish6510

2 жыл бұрын

@@les_crow I think Barcelona occasionally used it under Cruijf and Pep Guardiola

@Dotsetc

2 жыл бұрын

@@les_crow The 3-4-3 was basically the 4-3-3 the Dutch have used. When they had the ball, one of the centers pushed up forming a diamond since their 4-3-3 was based on being able to fluidly change their system in game situations. Ruud Krol was back then their libero. The Dutch however werent the only one who did so. Germany for example did the same with Beckenbauer and later with Lothar Mattheus ergo the Libero role. And yes since 'libero' is Italian, the italians have used it as well and actually originate it, however they used it during the cattanacio period in the 60's with the 'Libero' being actually the most defensive player who played as an aggressive sweeper chasing after every ball that fell over the defense. Kinda like how Pepe played for example at Real Madrid who funny enough basically played with an oldschool libero in Pepe and a new school libero in Ramos.

@NatC3114

2 жыл бұрын

@@les_crow the original formation used by Total Football before 4-3-3. Similar with 3-4-1-2 formation, both using the "10" as the creator in attack and the usage of deep playmaker.

I remember when Mou went to Chelsea he said something along the lines of...as long as English teams play 4-4-2, he wouldn't lose, he had the advantage (2:17)

@colinlittlewood9613

2 жыл бұрын

Amazed he didn't even get a mention here, his first Chelsea team was a near-perfect example of the system working at its best (perhaps even more so than Barca given Chelsea didn't have a Messi-level talent in their team).

@JustN0tMe

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinlittlewood9613 Before and After Real effect😅

@Bruno-gj5vn

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinlittlewood9613 Perhaps they didn't mention due to the focus being at the relationship of the 4-3-3 with positional play. That Chelsea side had even less patience to attack than Klopp's Liverpool. Mou's Chelsea was speed metal.

@rowland5951

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinlittlewood9613 almost went invincible that season as well. 😤😤😤

The 4-3-3 has made the likes of Ibrahim Sangaré world class players in the eyes of Tifo 😉

@jzilla1234

2 жыл бұрын

In the eyes of the world

@IrsakS

2 жыл бұрын

This joke gets boring and annoying, shut up!

@syahdanfariduddinbaariq227

2 жыл бұрын

@@IrsakS calm down

@bluechip3158

2 жыл бұрын

Old joke

@sij748

2 жыл бұрын

@@IrsakS chill out, being aggressive by telling people to shut up makes you look like a tw@

Truth be told, it was Mourinho, before Pep or Klopp, who brought a winning 4-3-3 to EPL with Chelsea. The advantage against the traditional 4-4-2 was the basis of his success in English football.

@TheSpursiest

2 жыл бұрын

Given Spurs personnel aligning so well with the defensive requirements of the system, I find it amazing that he was so adamant about sticking with a defensive pair. As soon as Conte switched to a back 3, Spurs’ problems moving the ball seemed to instantly vanish.

@daniaaal

2 жыл бұрын

Though perhaps it was more deployed as a 4-5-1 with the wingers dropping into the midfield flanks to wait for counters, wasn't it?

4-3-3 took off in England with Jose and Rafa in 2004.

@kieran9882

2 жыл бұрын

Rafa played 442 in 2004, then 4231. I don’t think Rafa likes 433 really

4-4-2 and now 4-3-3? I'm hoping you'll be covering my 1980's primary school formation of 2-3-5 next!!! Ossie Ardiles was not the PE teacher at my school.

@Hydro66

2 жыл бұрын

2-3-5? Me and my schoolmates always used a formation called the 0-0-10!

@Deena_555

2 жыл бұрын

we used 0-0-10 or 10-0-0 based on the situation

There is another facet of 4-3-3 that you did not discuss: one introduced by Jose Mourinho in Chelsea and the one he used with Real Madrid. These were not designed to dominate possession per se. He used as part of his Tactical Periodisation approach.

@evilotis01

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, although there were def parts in this video that could have been talking about that first Chelsea team. one of the central midfielders making late runs into the box (Frank, obv), the wingers (Duff & Robben) staying relatively wide as traditional wingers rather than being inverted as is often the case these days, etc

@fishyfish6510

2 жыл бұрын

Mourinho's 4-3-3 revolutionize the Premier League in the early 2000's

@shreyaskj9955

2 жыл бұрын

Zidane's three-peat team had lot in common with how Guardiola usually sets up his team. Pressing, DM dropping between CBs, attacking full-backs.

There is a misconception that Italy played a 4-3-3 in the Euros . Whenever in possession, they actually transitioned into a 3-5-2 with di Lorenzo as RCB and Emerson/Spinazzola as LWB. Nevertheless, great video!

@regulatorsmountup4931

2 жыл бұрын

Generally the formation is the way players are positioned out of possession. The great Dutch teams were always nominally a 433 but in possession it could easily become a 343 or even a 235. Pep Guardiola is obviously famous for his 433 but in possession it’s always a 235 or 325

@thedislikebutton163

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of teams who play 433 are lop sided. For eg. All of Mourinho s teams. On a technical note, a teams formation is it's average resting position, not position during possession alone. So, Italy would still be called a 433 side.

@ComradeOgilvy1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@regulatorsmountup4931 Exactly. The nominal formation does not really matter, it is how the team is organized and how quickly it transitions to other formations. Other than the occasional successive counterattack, a rigid 433 will not break competent defenses down. As you say, a serious attack is going to be a 325 or similar. When Liverpool was chasing a goal against the Wolves a couple weeks back, Klopp changed from a 433 to a 4231. But 4231 is not intrinsically more attacking -- it could be used as a defensive shape, too. Klopp's 4231 here transitioned instantly to a 244 or 235 when in possession, and then morphed quickly to other shapes, too.

@aneeshmishrajuventus9570

2 жыл бұрын

Shreyas you don't even know a single thing. Italy transformed into 3-2-5 in attack and not 352. Chiellini Bonucci Di Lorenzo Jorginho Verrati/Lucatelli Spinaza Insigne Immobile Barella Chiesa Spinazzola was the winger in attack where Insigne and Barella Occupied Inside forwards and Chiesa as Right Winger

@jasonamico4680

2 жыл бұрын

@@regulatorsmountup4931 Ya especially with the way Pep's teams wing backs move around. Cancelo, Walker, Zinchenko and even Laporte at times drift into the midfield and it completely shifts. Good shout

What about Mourinho's first spell at Chelsea (04/05, 05/06)? He basically one handedly change all manager's mindset from 4-4-2.

@silviofelix1991

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah in the UK maybe.

@hermitcrack9091

2 жыл бұрын

@@silviofelix1991 Wdym in the UK maybe? Jose popularised the 4-3-3 in multiple countries long before Pep did.

@pyrotgr3204

2 жыл бұрын

@@hermitcrack9091 4-3-3 was already popular all over the world before Mourinho took over Chelsea take the 1996 champions league final Juventus side for example. UK was the only place where 4-4-2 was still very popular. But yeah credit for Mourinho for bringing 4-3-3 into the EPL which also led into Sir Alex adaptation of the 4-3-3 using the 4-4-2

@sebblackmore3697

2 жыл бұрын

Was it Mourinho who reintroduced the inverted wingers into the 4-3-3 during that period? Was Robben on the right flank of Chelsea's team or did it rotate depending on opponent? Mourinho's time at Barca probably influenced him with this formation

@silviofelix1991

2 жыл бұрын

@@hermitcrack9091 when Mourinho arrived in the UK after is time with UD Leiria and Porto in Portugal the 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 was already very popular. The same in Spain or others countries but in the UK that's not the case.

That Juergen Klopp design looks like it’s about to ask me if I know Tame Impala

The 8s have to be both defensive cover, but also support the striker as a half-10, as well as assisting the wide men.

@Apfelstrudl

2 жыл бұрын

Depends a bit if you are playing Klopp style with advancing wingbacks and more defensive 8s or Guardiola style with advancing 8s and wingbacks that take their roles.

@farisnasir9582

2 жыл бұрын

@@Apfelstrudl correct. The players used changes the dynamic of this formation so much

Pep: You're telling me that I actually need to play a DM?

Mourinho introduced the 433 to the premier league not Guardiola

@morganclement4852

2 жыл бұрын

Tifo never said that Guardiola brought it to Premier League,they said it was one of his most preferred setup at Man City

@davidparry9511

2 жыл бұрын

@@morganclement4852 no bro. Watch it again. At some point he said Pep introduced it

@morganclement4852

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidparry9511 go to 0:31 onwards. and listen very well

hi Tifo, i request you do one for 4-2-2-2... Ralf Ragnicks formation. strengths and weaknesses

My absolute favorite. As a River/Barça-loving Argentinian-American who watches Man City too, this is the most beautiful and fluid formation. 2008-12 Spain executed it to perfection as well at times, but Pep's teams are the dictionary definition of 4-3-3 fluidity and dominance. So graceful and effective when done well, and with a good GK and center backs to boot

Tifo thanks for uploading sensible videos

Best KZread channel for football

Great video Tifo! love coaching the 433 formation. This will be a perfect little intro clip to show my players. Cheers!

can’t wait for the 3-4-3 video. then i can send it to my players.

Keep it up guys! 4-2-3-1 and 3-4-3 next please.

Love this series!

I love these. Do more. Thanks,

Nice one and the VO is great

Tifo’s very basic guide to 4-3-3. There are almost as many different 4-3-3s as there are teams playing it. Pep’s Barca 4-3-3 is different to his Man City 4-3-3 which is different again to Klopp’s at Liverpool and again to the Italy 4-3-3.

@nickchivers9029

2 жыл бұрын

Who's Togo?

@danpreston564

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickchivers9029 the autocorrect version of Tifo, probably.

@T.E.S.S.

2 жыл бұрын

It's a 6 minute video, mate 🙄

@T.E.S.S.

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickchivers9029 wasn't he on Mystery Science Theatre 3000?

@commentarytalk1446

2 жыл бұрын

Agree a bit simple overall. I think the formation style is critically dependent on what type of players are available too.

I would go with 3-4-3. With amazing defenders, balanced center mids, young and coachable outside mids and attacking players

Dang, this animation is so goooood!!! 👏👏👏. It's really satisfactory to watch.

one thing i took from the negatives is that it takes a very intelligent group to make it work, hence why two of the best teams to use it had an almost identical midfield, and a true testament to how good Spain's midfield depth 2006-2016 was

Do more of these for other formations

Thinking of the best 4-3-3 sides, Zidane's Real Madrid seems to be one of the prime examples of how devastating and controlling this formation can be. How the wingers Marcelo and Carvajal used to make overlapping runs. The midfield trio with creativity and control opened defences and kept possesion. In CDM position the single pivot of Casemiro covered ground, harrowed opposition players and revitalized the back line. How counter-attacking can be devastating with this formation with pacy wingers. I think it was a prime example of 4-3-3.

@wadaya4844

2 жыл бұрын

Pep barca 433??

@AkashRastogi17

2 жыл бұрын

@@wadaya4844 of course not discrediting Pep's Barca, which the narrator mentioned is great. This is an additional example, and probably one of the best.

@satyamsangal6659

2 жыл бұрын

Yup and losing to Barcelona's 4-3-3 all the time.

@AkashRastogi17

2 жыл бұрын

@@satyamsangal6659 Zidane's 4-3-3 lost only 2 matches to Barcelona out of 11 and won 7 out of them. So, yes they lost all the time. 😁

@satyamsangal6659

2 жыл бұрын

@@AkashRastogi17 its 9 matches with 3 Draw and 2 lose actually.

5:00 I love that the coach has the word ‘coach’ on his head

As a Palace fan I’ve been impressed with Viera’s 4-3-3 formation he’s implemented this season. It’s not been a success for us in the past but this season it’s been entertaining 🔴🔵 Viera’s Red N Blue Army!!

Any other leads to more in depth understanding of formations? Roles and responsibilities? Adaptations? Links to read/video appreciated.

Xavi: Write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN!

the first really successful 4-3-3 in England was implemented by ... José Mourinho. people forget this.

@miz5138

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m quite surprised they missed out on it! Mourinho revolutionised the prem with his 4-3-3. It wasn’t the usual tiki taka and the possession based football but it was very direct. It had certain elements which influenced the English football in so many facets. Makelele was the holding mid, with Tiago as the hybrid 6-8 and Lamps played a hybrid 8-10. But imo it was Drogba upfront who had the biggest impact on the English game. Prior to Drogba, no No.9 played alone uptop. He changed the definition of a “target man” in so many ways..earlier a “target man” was just a 6’2+ geezer who would just stay up-top to simply bully CBs, head the ball and create space for his smaller strike partner but Drogba changed all of that!

@efanferdiantowibowo9610

2 жыл бұрын

True. The idea was to outnumbered the midfield because of the teams at the time were using 4-4-2 formation.

@evilotis01

2 жыл бұрын

@@miz5138 absolutely agree w everything you say here. great analysis.

@610Mungral

Жыл бұрын

we often played 4-3-3 at school, in the mid-70's. People forget about Mr Tigg the PE teacher.

Any chance of doing a video on 3-4-3 and 3-5-2?

I think this video is somewhat of an ode to pep guardiola. It's really spot on but what caught my eye was the fact that you talked about its weaknesses. People rarely speak about the weaknesses. I think it's great too because it shows how good of a coach guardiola is. He uses tactical fouling to not only preserve his play, he can keep his system flowing. This resonated with me after watching PSG vs city in the group stage. Once again, great video guys, your content really makes my day.

nice video!

Do one for 4-2-3-1 formation. It's the most devastating and attacking formation with Bayern munich took them to new heights.

Ever since I switched to using 4-3-3 from 4-2-4 in FIFA, my possession stats per match have yet to go below 50 percent. It really is the best system for keeping the ball provided you have good passers in the team.

A breif history is the best part of this channel

Striker can also drop deep drawing out a defender to help wingers in making runs behind

Mourinho’s 4-3-3 at Chelsea in 2004-05 with Makelele and Lampard as 2 of the midfield 3 was absolutely brilliant

4:50 I'd give that honour to MoU's '04 Chelsea, after that SAF switched from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3 too.

Can you do a video on the 3-4-3 diamond formation?

Do 4231 next tifo. I need more info about the formation. tq

I would love a video about a double six in a 4-2-2-2.

Glad to see people in the comments giving Jose the credit he deserves

Everyone knows that José Mourinho’s 2004-06 Chelsea made the 4-3-3 known worldwide. Plus, I feel Mourinho has uses it differently (and more tactically) than those given credit here.

Next try the 4-2-3-1 or the 3-5-2 they're also one of the most preferred formations

My fav

I feel like you've given Pep too much credit here. Personally, the first time I really became aware of a successful deployment of 4-3-3 was Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea, when Pep was still playing in Qatar/Mexico. And obviously, (as your video makes clear) Jose didnt invent it either. Nevertheless, my recollection of events is that its growing popularity i(n the English game at least) was really kickstarted by Jose rather than Pep.

@colouredIncognito

2 жыл бұрын

People like to miscredit formations all the time in England. Same with 3atb

@gerrysnatabraja

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, agree. Mourinho was too renowned by his 4-2-3-1, but his 4-3-3 and the birth of 'Makelele role', really impacted the tactical landscape back then

@ComradeOgilvy1984

2 жыл бұрын

When people say 433 they can easily mean very different things. It is the tactics and transitions to other formations that really matters. 433 was popular back in the 80s when I was in HS. Even with our modest level of tactical sophistication, we understood that you cannot play a static/rigid 433 unless you plan on simply lumping the ball forward out of the back.

@Taeerom

2 жыл бұрын

@@ComradeOgilvy1984 What do you mean, can't lump it out? Norway in the nineties used left fullback as playmaker, amr target man, and fast striker to do 5 touch route one counterattacks. A very effective 433 elevating the Norwegian national team to peak at top 4 on the FIFA ranking, despite having mediocre at best players.

fun formation to play in

please talk about europa league and europa conference league, how does it work actually. thanks

I would love a 4231 analysis Moyes favoured formation

4231 next one of the most imp formations in fb in my opiniin the best as it can be moulded into any formation and more it has all tge positions the football sport has and bayerns domination using it shows its brilliance and this is the reason nagellsman uses it and it is the best pressing formation too...

I love this 😘

Hey 👋🏻 this is fan from Hong Kong, is it possible to also talk about guide of 4-1-2-1-2/ 4-4-2 Diamond?

4 3 3 on paper mostly becomes 3 5 2 and 3 2 5 in game especially when attacking like Liverpool and city do .It's always changing during the game

Can you do a 4-2-3-1 formation explains

It’s sick how managers can use the same formation but it totally different ways. Just look at City and Liverpool. Or even Madrid or PSG. It’s probably the most tactically flexible set up you can use, especially in midfield

Please make 4-2-3-1 next

Great

Also Brazil's 2002's Triple R 4-3-3 was way ahead of its time. But to be fair they could've played any formation that year and win.

Can you please cover a 4-1-2-1-2

No mention of Real Madrid winning three back to back UCLs using the formation, but otherwise great video!

What about the 262 formation I use in football manager when I’m down 2 goals in the 80th minute?

can u do the 4-4-2? not many coaches can pull it off

Petition to release one of these for the Christmas Tree formation on Christmas day.📝

how much you cost ? after free trial ? reply please

Never knew 433 is played without a goalkeeper

Perfect, now I can learn how to play Football Manager properly.

My FM 22 gonna be lit

Wait a second, mourinho popularised this formation way before pep's time. Back when he wrecked prem using a Chelsea side playing in a time when the 4-4-2 was doctrine.

Given the time of year TIFO, how about a look at 5-4-1? 🎄 🎅

i was using this formation 20 years ago

Please do the W formation

The Pep META

The 4-3-3 is my favourite formation

@siyavuyasam2033

2 жыл бұрын

4-3-3 4-4-2 Diamond 4-5-1 4-3-1-2 5-3-2 I prefer these formations 👌🏼 I don't like a 3-man defence, either 4 or 5 defenders

The jazz though

Now do a 343 or a 352 pleaseeee

343 next please!

I found it curious that this video considers the 4-3-2-1 to be the defensive shape instead of the 4-1-4-1. The wingers can play wider than the midfielders as well.

The formation that got Ole the United job and could’ve saved his job at the end. If only he had the intelligence and the balls to use this formation more often

@sususegar

2 жыл бұрын

he doesn't really have the personnel for this. not excusing him, just stating the issue he never addressed

@Chilavertish

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't have the passers for this, counterattack was the only way with that speed up top

@aldyrasyid

2 жыл бұрын

@@sususegar 3 full summer windows to get a DM and none was signed. It's on Ole sadly

@aldyrasyid

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chilavertish players wearing #6 and #18 are good enough passers I think

Whats that background music called?

Ibrahim Sangaré THE MYTH

Can you guys do either 4-2-3-1 or one of the formations w 3 center backs next?

Jose Used The 4-3-3 bought Dominance in the EPL during his first two spells in Chelsea.

Tifo jazz is as good as their content

This vid made me appreciate Sergio busquets a lot more

The bad implementation of 4-3-3 on Nuno's Spurs should be mentioned if team cant maintain possession and attacking players constantly be in the defensive roles

4-3-3 can also have a box to box CDM and CAM like bayern

@fishyfish6510

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think Muller counts as a CAM. He doesn't do the roles of a CAM, he is very different. His role is unique only to him and very very few players in the past 10 years

The holding mid is the most important player in this system

Up Next : Tifo's guide to populate Mars: 1. You Build a big fu***ng rocket. 2. You send some humans on Mars. 3. Done

HOW DOES THE VIDEO START AT 4:47

If you want to play attacking and possesion based tactic, and you have technical and hard working players, 4-3-3 is the best formation.

Someone send this to tuchell, please!

Guys on the comment are busy saying that Tifo said that Guardiola brought 4-3-3 to the English game yet the video clearly states that it is one of his most preferred setup at Man City (around 0:31 onwards)

@fishyfish6510

2 жыл бұрын

They said it at 4:55

I’d consider the 4-3-3 moderately intuitive

I always use this for fifa and only use this formation even if it isn’t the meta

Ole to fletcher and carrick: "incredible. write it down."