Always wondered why out of the dozens of pro matches I've watched the GDI player never uses its super unit, while I'll see Nod and Scrin go straight for them.

@TheAns51

8 ай бұрын

I think it's because in a way GDI MARV is the weakest of the three. Yes it does much damage and has best armor and most infantry points but it always requires a strong escort force to push through strong enemy lines or defences because it is also very slow and quite easy target to attack. Also, in my opinion MARV doesn't have any really effective tactical point other than defence and depleting enemy tiberium fields for your benefit but that usually doesn't make a huge difference unless you have managed to destroy enemy imminent forces and at the same price you get two mammoth tanks which are basically as effective together in defence and offence. But with MARV's harvesting passive ability you can conpensate it's price quite quickly in larger maps where there is more unused tiberium fields. NOD redeemer can cloak when idle and when used very carefully, can become very close to enemy base before noticed. Also Redeemer has high damage for main weapon and best range and can snipe all but "epic" base defences without getting shot back at. And it has enough armor to just walk through enemy defences and if infantry slots are black hand flamethrowers, then it melts buildings and defences like a butter. It can level enemy base very quickly before taken down if enemy have no forces in base. Also it's rage generator is a game changer against enemy forces and base defences if it manages to get close enough and activate it as it causes enemy unit's and defences to attack eachother and it also works against other epic units. Scrin Eradicator hexapod is weakest in armor i think but it's armor is evenly strong at every side and back, whereas MARV and Redeemers armours has weakspot on back and side (MARV), and it's main weapon isn't so great on single target even though it it's still quite powerful and with three slots it can become very effective destroyer and if mastermind unit is put in, it can teleport in it's line of sight so it can be used to teleport inside enemy base with minimal damage from base defences and cause much destruction before taken down. Also it is best defensive unit in game when supported by few corrupters that spray their shit on it as it heals it. 5 or more corrupters spraying it usually heals it faster than it takes damage from multiple enemy attacks making it very very hard to get past of. Maps with choke points, Eradicator is a must with support for it and you can divide your other forces on other places.

@brain.damage5691

4 ай бұрын

I've never played this game, but from what I have seen marv is best for duels with other heavy units. But swarms of infantry/air/vehicles can counter it really good.

@MikaHolic_Channel_OFFICIAL

4 ай бұрын

@@TheAns51 i think i'll have to disagree with the MARVV bit. it really depends on WHICH GDI infantry you put inside the MARV. if ZOCOM for example just 3 Zone Raiders + an Engineer (for self-healing), with the Zone Raider's powerful anti-infantry/vehicle attack, the MARV with that kind of garrison can essentially *erase* an enemy base on its own, just send some firehawks with missiles for anti-air cover and the MARV will do the rest. switch the Zone Raiders with Zone Troopers and the MARV can literally one-shot a Mammoth Tanl, Avatar, or a Tripod. I've experimented with MARV long ago to know which GDI units will give it the strongest boost in firepower, and believe me if it has Zone Raiders, Missile soldiers, and/or Zone Troopers the MARV legit becomes unstoppable. To the point i can conveniently send it without any Ground support, just some firehawks for anti-air duty.

I feel like the final test was a bit biased towards the hexapod because of the units being in a single file line and it won because of the AOE. I think I'd prefer the Mastodon but the Redeemer has a special place in my heart because of me being a Nod main.

@Spygon

2 жыл бұрын

Also Redeemers do alot better when in the thick of a battle. Firing at the line at range really isnt playing to the Redeemers strengths.

@Sunnysideanyway

2 жыл бұрын

Clearly the Hexpod has low single target damage, as the Mastodon was keeping up with it even though the Hexpod was hitting 3 or more targets at once. The Mastodon has by far the most firepower compared to the other two, it also has a machine gun, making it more effective against infantry. Its weaknesses are the fact that it has no abilities, moves and turns slower, and only really hits one unit at a time.

@arahok7675

Жыл бұрын

both are better than hexapod, the guy made everything to make hexapod "win", this perfect formation to use his maximum is impossible to get in game and he avoided to show the circle combat (that happens 80% of time in game), so, in a circle ambush both redeemer and mastodon are better, in this case mastodon is way better. anyway, this is a mod, something looks weird there, i played this game for years both online, lan and offline, and hexapod always was inferior than the others, even in final version that he was overrated by ea, still lose in 1v1 with full garrison units

@hvoltage1524

Жыл бұрын

@@arahok7675 Yeah, now that you mention it, the threat level posed by the hexapod even FEELS less in game. I've never had a moment where I was like "Oh shit, a Hexapod, I'm screwed", but MARVs and Redeemers on the other hand... Lol

@rohenthar8449

Жыл бұрын

@@hvoltage1524 Agree, I always was wary of Redeemers, a bit less about MARVs if they were not properly garrisoned that is, but I never feel threatened about Hexas... duno why, lol.

the scrin epic unit has 1 flaw he can only shot 1 deraction while the gdi walker has free range in firing

GDI is heaviest and take more damage. I think GDI won this because the raw damage.

I would imagine the Mastodon would be exclusive to the Steel Talons, as they're the only GDI subfaction to make full use of mechs, whereas standard GDI divisions only use the Juggernaut. It's reasonable only the Steel Talons have the Mastodon while standard GDI divisions and ZOCOM have the MARV.

@GorgutS_HeaT_HunteP

3 ай бұрын

This was implemented in Kane's wrath in the Chemical warfare v4.8.9 mod (the latest 5.3 but there the steel claws were returned to MARV) There they changed it very coolly in that instead of the Mammoth Tank the Steel Claws have a Mastodon and instead of the MARV Tank the Improved Mastodon (the author of the mod showed that the Steel Claws have are also new technologies, and while the rest of the GDI army improved on the basis of the Mammoth Tank, they created the MARV Tank, then the steel claws created the new Epic Mastodon.)

Just bought this game now. Its incredible 😂

the mastodon is acting weird, it doesn't use all of its weapons for some reason. still, it can somewhat keep up with the other 2 despite using only railguns.

@diegohiramguidogarcia6003

2 жыл бұрын

i suppose its range, some troops like the behemoth does not use the infantry if it is firing its artillery at the longest range but if something gets close the unit starts firing again its infantry backup

@sneedfeedandseed2410

2 жыл бұрын

@@diegohiramguidogarcia6003 yeah thats the problem with units that use multiple weapons with different ranges.

Could have sworn the mammoth had adaptive armour

What about zone shatterers vs normal shatterers? Also great videos, wish the C&C community was larger.

@TiberiumGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I wish it too, so they can build a better engine, just dreaming about 60fps and more than 4GB of RAM.

thing in mods that never make any sense... mastodon is some generations ahead, is a top tier unit in the 4th war, but in 3rd war he would be 3 times more durable than the others... so, without mod is better, because marv destroy hexapod in most ways, loses only 1v1 without garrison units in the final version, because mastodon was nerfed to fit in game...

@TiberiumGames

Жыл бұрын

You have a closed vision of mods, some of them may do things that you hate, but other fix the game, add balance or ad other factions with good results like The Forgotten.

Mammoth Tank MK 2 for the win. ❤ Loved that giant 4 legged robot since it came out.

i think the eradicator hexapod and the redeemer have to by two of my favorites in command and conquer.

🔥🔥🔥🔥

i prefer the MKII over MARV

Actualy this is show us which one is the worst :D

what is the song?

Я ждал вдову, а потом вспомнил что она из 4 части )))

My favorite is the redentor

It's a shame the Mammoth Mk.2 Walker doesn't have the voice line of MARV like in the "Tiberium Essence" mod it would added so much gravitas when you are commanding it with it's deep booming voice.

I’m curious how long it would take for one Rifleman Squad to kill a MARV (set to cease fire stance, of course) Or a Combat Engineer.

@TiberiumGames

2 жыл бұрын

WOW, a combat engineer would take forever hahahaha.

@jonathancolon7681

2 жыл бұрын

@@TiberiumGames I think the best unit is the Alien spider thing.

@ALEXZANDER_YT

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathancolon7681 corruptor :)

Forgive me for I haven't played the Tiberium games, but what is the Mastodon even good at, spec-wise

@TDChriz

2 жыл бұрын

In the mod, its advantage is the lack of infantry upgrades, instead it equiped with railguns, maschine gun and missiles by default. That way, it can deal with pretty much everything on its own.

@diegohiramguidogarcia6003

2 жыл бұрын

the thing is that is mostly aded to later games as modded but in tiberian sun i supose it was like a jack of all trades? in some mods it has great armor killing potential and in others is just a walking fortress so yeah it depends on iteration

@sneedfeedandseed2410

2 жыл бұрын

everything, it has missiles for taking aircraft down, it has a powerful minigun that can kill infantry and those railguns shred through buildings and armor.

why didnt the gdi brick tank not included?

@TiberiumGames

2 жыл бұрын

is not in this mod.

good video

@TiberiumGames

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed

C&C 3 Tiberium wars or Kanes wrath wath was better ?

@TiberiumGames

2 жыл бұрын

Really Liked KW, but venoms are weaker. Liked the Specter, nod needed artillery.

@ForTheBrotherhood

Жыл бұрын

@@TiberiumGames They already had Beam Cannon as a balanced artillery.

Yo, what mod is this!?

@TDChriz

2 жыл бұрын

TWA: www.moddb.com/mods/tiberium-wars-advanced

I prefer MARV.

I used to play this game, and I always play not just because of the redeemer

@giga1x103

Жыл бұрын

I meant non

@TiberiumGames

Жыл бұрын

you mean Nod, or the Brotherhood of Nod

My brother i christ, why didnt you have them go 1v1

What is that GDI thing? That is not the kanes wrath

@TiberiumGames

Жыл бұрын

This is a mod from Tiberium Wars, I'm not using KW, because few mods are available for this game.

@rohenthar8449

Жыл бұрын

This is a unit from a mod, a restoration of Mammoth from Tiberian Sun.

"kinda late" to this but the epic unit can't even harvest tiberium which was a big plus for the mammoth. + 4 slots for infantry was always better than this here... 2 front rocket launcher vs air, 1 engenier for self repair and 1 slot for anti infantry if you wanted (commander).... can't see how this mastadon is supposed to be better than a mammoth from standard cc3

We're is the MARV

@TiberiumGames

2 жыл бұрын

The MARV is not in this mod

@JoaoSoares-rs6ec

2 жыл бұрын

@@TiberiumGames I didn't knew that it was a mod

No Mastodon is powerful by Hexapod

Mastodon is a mod?

@TiberiumGames

9 ай бұрын

yes

Всё бы хорошо, но вместо Мастадона лучше бы был Мамонт 2. Терпеть не могу модельку Мастадона, поскольку это неумелый подлизон к TibSun. А вообще, этот тест неполный, ибо у КАБАЛа и Забытых тоже есть эпик юниты.

@TiberiumGames

Жыл бұрын

Да, но их нет в этой версии игры, надеюсь, мы сможем собрать их всех вместе и сделать полное сравнение всех эпических юнитов, это было бы ЗАМЕЧАТЕЛЬНО.

@andreyradchenko8200

8 ай бұрын

Я бы не сказал, что неумелый. Он довольно логично выглядит как дальнейшее развитие гробика на ножках с использованием новых технологий, появившихся после фаершторма. Так что в трёшке он вполне к месту. А вот попытку впихнуть всякую рандомную срань кабалу в этом моде я не одобряю, там должны были быть боле классические киборги, как у меченых в one vision.

I never likedbthe scrin epic unit Th Nod Reedemer has 2 slots but insane damage and highest durability and can 1v1 marv and win but MARV is more versatile and more capable

The mastodon is just the mammoths mark2 but more lame and ugly

The shaking is so annoying tbh

@diegohiramguidogarcia6003

2 жыл бұрын

i mean it is kind of realistic if you think about it, a 10 ton truck can shake the floor underneath it why not mini-earthquakes when those things walk around?

@TheValentineEnemy

2 жыл бұрын

There are times when you don't need to follow realism in a game. Besides the commander is supposed to see the battlefield from a bird's eye view aka. via satellites? Camera is not on the ground so to hell with shaking. It IS annoying.

What the hel is this? I just saw this from another. This is a mod for C&C surely.... but what the hel alien/robotic unit mods for? With the exception of Juggernaut all else is kept minimum to humans. C&C is basically human battle with humanized vehicles. Not a super sci-fi battle from outta space. Come oooon. This is cracking the strategic basis of the C&C game. This isn't Starcraft or its likes. Can't it be respected? It's all gone down since the creation of the Scrin facton and the change of story with Kane/Brotherhood Of Nod/Aliens, Can't we leave a war game as human as possible without alien crap??

@TiberiumGames

2 ай бұрын

Strong opinion. Remember that there are many Scrin fans over there. And in CNC 3 the Scrin and the Kane's intentions give a delicious twist to the story (excluding CnC 4 crap)

@metheboom

2 ай бұрын

@@TiberiumGames Nope. It wasn't the original writer's idea to change Kane's story to start up an alien connection. The forums back then really brought a hel lotta complaints about the lame entry of aliens too from fans. We're not talking about the fans now.