Wanted to clarify what I said at the beginning of the video about the Scrin fleet having spent an "unknown" amount of time in interstellar travel to the solar system and in stasis. The Intelligence Database says that the Scrin spent 9,210 cycles in stasis and 1,959 cycles in sublight journey from Ichor Hub. The issue here is that we don't know if 1 cycle is equal to 1 year in human time scale, hence why I said it was an unknown amount of time. Also as a couple of others have pointed out there are a couple of moments in the video where I say Nod "Banshee" aircraft when I meant to say Nod "Venom" aircraft which were the ones they used during the Third Tiberium War.

@igncom1

2 жыл бұрын

I personally doubt they have been here all that long. Even if Kane has. As the tiberium hadn't been on earth for all so long. And I doubt the scrin were sending on millennia old units through their portals to earth. (Reaper shard walkers are described as a modernisation of the old gun walker units, and so are unlikely in my mind to be very old.)

@Gaggle_of_gays

2 жыл бұрын

I was gona mention the banshee mixup lol

@neondead2.0.15

2 жыл бұрын

so banshee was not build from scrin technology ? And well if in CnC we still had scrin faction i will forgive it all that bad things and redesign.

@Jethild

2 жыл бұрын

@@neondead2.0.15 Well according to the TS manual, Banshee was designed based on "experiments with recovered alien technology." This alien technology is most likely in reference to the Tacitus which, while certainly an alien artifact, is not explicitly a Scrin artifact.

@neondead2.0.15

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jethild but banshee look so similar to that small scout planes from Scrin. And well Scrin is the most Op fraction in gameplay aspect (in tiberium wars) or only with them my gameplay tactic work. Build small group of Powerful vehicles and literally forget about existing of your base. Oh by the way, awesome video's its literally what i wanted from lore video's. And you know how to play tiberian sun or red aler 2 on modern system (win10) because ith crashing alot, or mods for tiberium wars/Kane's wrath ?

It’s a shame they never made another game after CNC 3.

@WorkBuilders

2 жыл бұрын

Aha yes the unspoken rule

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

🤫 Shhhh!

@Marinealver

2 жыл бұрын

Never Happened Oh you talking about that mobile game Ri...mmmph NEVER HAPPENED!

@obelic71

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marinealver after CnC3 al factions united and used their weapons of mass destruction to destroy those CnC abominations who were a threat to the entire galaxy.

@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

2 жыл бұрын

In head cannon the skin invasion happened but Kein infiltrated the skin and got to where he was going

the scrin feel like the love child of Protoss and Zerg together..... Zerg Guardians=Devastators Protoss carriers=Planetary Assault Carriers, plus some high templar psi storm abilities lol...

@TheArklyte

2 жыл бұрын

Just don't mind that their tech is closer to necrons...

@TheArklyte

2 жыл бұрын

Although when SC2 came out I was puzzled by Scrin and Protoss Mothership being almost literary the same unit in both games. Demos of SC2 showcased it a long way ahead of release so I'm not sure who ripped whom between EA and Activision... and not sure I want to know:(

@Noah-zz8uw

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArklyte I think the Motherships look quite different. Scrin seem more like Zerg/Protoss because of the bug noises they make along with plenty of units floating, or having a bunch of legs being like the Zerg, along with the use of energy weapons, and the shields, and mind controlling powers they have, similar to the Protoss.

@DrTarte

2 жыл бұрын

Oh hey, it's the cnc girls animator. Also saw your older Gundam vid. You do good work.

@essex3777

2 жыл бұрын

Now i want to see a battle Royal between Scrin, Protoss, Zerg, and Necron

GDI and NOD attack Scrin army, In Scrin side : Our miner is under attack.

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

and it makes you internally wish to never see the screin warfleet.

@mho...

Жыл бұрын

welllll, the Scrin DID try to harvest in an enemy stronghold....🤔😅

@marcusmeins1839

Жыл бұрын

Unit lost

It still makes me chuckle that what humanity faced was just miners and small pacification force- not even full on Scrin military.

@BVasquezp

2 жыл бұрын

I guess the Hexapod is a good indicator of the Scrins actual combat units. Imagine a whole army of those.

@masterzoroark6664

2 жыл бұрын

@@BVasquezp Imagine if it has a stronger variant that military uses

@naggie6358

2 жыл бұрын

A rather neat solution to the question of how 2 already war weary factions on an increasingly uninhabitable world managed to put up any fight at all against a hyper advanced stellar super power.

@imotekh6110

2 жыл бұрын

@@naggie6358 Kane would need to share this information translated when he gave Legion the tacitus this would be the only real way to guarantee the brotherhood survives to even reach their ascension. Basically every resource dedicated to combating the incoming Scrin, they have some amount of time but no telling how long.

@TribuneAquila

2 жыл бұрын

It could be that the scrin military isnt looking for conquest, if you accidentally stepped in an anthill you wouldnt go back to wipe it out, youd just keep walking.

I sometimes forget how cool the Scrin designs actually are. They are a interesting faction that I think gets overlooked a lot.

@cookiecastaneda4270

2 жыл бұрын

I guess it because it’s only introduced to one game sadly. I really like it too

@AlexeiVoronin

2 жыл бұрын

@@cookiecastaneda4270 Their campaign was pretty short too.

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexeiVoronin but they are FUN in the vs modes, if i get tw2 im gonna be happy

@rigen97

2 жыл бұрын

some of them honestly looks awkward, like the Storm Trooper and the Tripod-the Trooper in particular kinda disappointed me. Gun Walker effectiveness are kinda questionable. Though perhaps most of this is because the game animation and engine making them look doozy. Mechapede are absolute terror weapon tho. Those crawling buggers, ugh. And those floaty shard basic "infantry" are the most terrifying thing.

@magonus195

2 жыл бұрын

They're clearly a mashup of Zerg and Protoss.

I can only imagine some Nod pilots from the Second Tiberium War having a lot of questions when the Stormriders came flying in. Course I imagine some were wondering if they could jack a few and have their Banshees back.

They really should make another Tiberium game, "Command & Conquer: Tiberium Night", where the Scrin return and GDI has been preparing for them with reverse engineered Scrin tech. Tiberium is almost completely under control, yet the Scrin are able to boost its growth. After months of fighting and losing to the Scrin, an enlightened Kane returns, causing Nod to re-emerge. Together with GDI they finish off the invasion force. Leading to a new game: "Command & Conquer: Tiberian Universe", where they take the fight to their homeworld. Imagine space battles and planetary invasions, moving fleets around on a galactic overview Total War style

I really like how they dealed with several Alien Invasion nonsense in the Lore. Like, in many Alien Invasions, its just silly how such highly adavanced species get rekt by simple ballistic weaponry. You could think the same about the scrin, until you find out that this "Invasion Force" was nothing more then some Farmers going along there buisness. Humanities combined Forces of there mightiest Weaponry almost lost to the Scrin's equivalent of some Farmer going after Vermin with an old Double Barrel Shotgun.

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

well to be exact, a mining fleet but ya humanity is in a shit show if the screin return with a warfleet in return because if thoes vessles are civilian grade, than i hate to see a full military

@RaidenRabit

2 жыл бұрын

You mean exactly how the Aussies lost two wars with the Emu birds?

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaidenRabit now that was a pair of idiot solders who took a lmg after a bunch of the birds. 10 bullets to a bird apperintly

@chrisdupuis2523

2 жыл бұрын

No dude, the "mining fleet" had an actual military attachment to deal with any residual resistance left from a naturally occurring tiberium explosion. I hate this piece of misinformation that they were somehow civilians, those were actual military units you fought the only difference between a harvesting fleet and a full invasion would be scale. I mean it's just so ridiculous, what good would ANY of those units have been for a strictly mining operation? Sure let's bring flying aircraft carriers and tanks to mine tiberium because why not. I know let's bring weapons that power up by destroying the thing we're here to harvest, that's a great idea. Pay attention to the game, the thought that they were civilians is just head cannon and stupid head cannon at that.

@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisdupuis2523 In comparisen to the scrin, humans where primitives, heck maybe even animals. Would you bring a top modern fully automatic machinegun with grenadlauncher attachment with you to deal with some vermin ? No, nobody would, they would take a simple shotgun or hunting rifle at best. The scrin went to earth to seed and harvest some tiberium, not to go to war with an equal enemy, it would be a total waste to send you´re "Top of the Line" Military forces to protect some harvester that at best have to deal with some primitives. I think the harvester protection forces where like a mix of vermin exterminators and riot police forces, as they start slowly ingame with some weak but fast "search and destroy" units and later feild some serious mass destruction, battlefield controling units. Also, look a bit in the lore, you can find hints to that, like the reaper 17 shard walker describing the gun walker as an outdated design that needed upgrading. I don´t think you will find gun walkers in scrin invasion forces then.

I once used a mothership a liiiiittle too close to my base. Wasn’t looking at it while my entire base was going up in flames. I had a tendril of power plants and base defenses moving out from my base’s center, near the end of which was where I used the mothership on some incoming enemy forces. I guess one of my base defenses was a bit too close to the blast and it just went from there. Didn’t know what I had done until I lost.

@elderliddle2733

2 жыл бұрын

Oof, that sucks. The mothership is a double edged sword. She can level your enemies, but you can get caught in collateral. Believe it or not, best use of the mothership to keep it out of harm’s way and level a base is to fire it near your forces as they attack the enemy base. The shockwave will expand from your forces to the base and level it.

@Yellow13Firestorm

2 жыл бұрын

I believe that deserves an F in chat XD

@gabrieledavidepavan2459

2 жыл бұрын

f

@AmadarianArkwing

2 жыл бұрын

I too learn that in the hard way.

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

@@elderliddle2733 talk about making use of the disposability

To me, most of Scrin tech resembles marine life. Buildings are coral and kelp, Buzzers are a school of fish, Shocks are walking oysters, Devastators are lobsters (they do have a tail of sorts), PACs are sea slugs, Mechas are sea worms + isopods, Mastermind is a bluebottle jellyfish/cone snail, Harvester is Anomalocaris shrimp. Then again, marine life can get so bizzarre it wouldn't be that hard to find a match for each unit.

@goldman77700

Жыл бұрын

This is brilliant. Great observations. My respect for the developers for C&C3 though never lacking has grown even after all these years.

@maciejas2471

2 ай бұрын

So we can assume that Scrin home planet was aquatic and filler with Tiberium...

19:40 "...this assumed military invation force was largely a civilian fleet." So there may be a Grand Mothership.

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a scary thought. 😱

@wertaiman4216

2 жыл бұрын

i read somewhere that the Scrin wasn't expecting a fight they thought all living creatures on earth is dead so they only send a mining fleet to earth. So yeah the Scrin military probably have larger ships

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

I remember reading or hearing that too.

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

and that shit is not just for cracking the unreacted rock open to expose the ore eather its just gonna crack earth and be done with it

I like how Jethild incorporates the last Tiberium Wars mission as GDI naturally.

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

because he plays it as gathered intell by GDI and i like that

the second scrin invasion was the main subject of the wrongly canceled tiberium FPS.

@Jethild

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I guess the original plan at the time may have been to have the TIberium FPS be the proper sequel to Kane's Wrath and then have CnC4 finish out the series based off what happened in the FPS. But obviously things didn't work out that way.

@JoaoSoares-rs6ec

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jethild more like some pencil pusher decided it was a no go, just based on numbers alone and instead to release the crap cnc4, most fans including me, don't consider cnc4 part of the cannon, the really irritating part is that after tiberium wars and RA3 they have cancelled promising games and published one disaster after another, is there surprise why we have stopped hearing about EA

@ThoriberoCaroli

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec No one following this channel considers cnc4 to be cannon. ^^ And none of Jethilds videos appears to do it either, so you are in the right place. :)

@JoaoSoares-rs6ec

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThoriberoCaroli nost fans don't, just making clear why EA is no longer spoken,

@johncheng2682

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec I have never heard of a cnc4 untill I started watching cnc lore videos.

I love the Eldrich horror looks of the Scrin.

@Green__Ghost

2 жыл бұрын

They remind me of the Drakk from Unreal.

@masterzoroark6664

2 жыл бұрын

And these were just mining equipment and pacification forces. Imagine how their military looks

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe he could make a video on what the Scrin military would look like if they invaded earth. That could be interesting.

@TealWolf26

2 жыл бұрын

The carrier looks like an anomalocaris. Super cool faction.

Devastators + PACs = Ball game... 11:30 To quote GDI soldiers during the reconquest of a devastated Berne... "What the hell is that!?" "Looks like a localized Ion Storm." "But that's impossible!" *"TELL THAT TO THE ALIENS!"* And yeah, the Mothership's Catalyst Cannon is dangerous... *I mean it turned Berne into nothing but a walled Tiberium filled crater!*

@syazyukki8378

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha i love that "TELL THAT TO THE ALIENS!"

I love how you edit these videos. Looks like I am watching a cutscene from the good Ol days of CnC

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto

@hujiaming6151

2 жыл бұрын

Trust me, good old days of CnC never ends, only if we find a person who could really live like our Messiah KANE......

@lechking941

2 жыл бұрын

@@hujiaming6151 XD even with the never happened but loved dino war easter egg in 1 i loved how he did it.

One thing I've always wondered, In the Scrin opening you see several icons in a column, one of these icons is selected and it's revealed to be the milky way. Does this mean the other icons were other galaxies from the local cluster? Is the Scrin an intergalactic civilisation? The other icons might be system settings and other assorted junk on the Scrins desktop and he just selected the map one so who knows.

@Jethild

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing as well. I watched that opening several times as I originally thought about giving this video a similar opening, but I realized it would take too long to create so I had to drop that idea. I guess it all depended on how big of a civilization the developers wanted the Scrin to be. Though I'm not sure if they put that much detail into the faction. Either way, the opening is vague enough to where it could be interpreted as either the Scrin being an intergalactic civilization or the other icons are just some random jargon.

@MerryMerryGold

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jethild would make a good reason for the fleet to never arrive in a sequel that will never come. Basically the civ is so big that nobody really cares it's just one small mining company losing out on a normally safe investment, the corporate fleet might arrive to try to wring some sort of profit out of this venture but the investors might not really care

@Kronosfobi

2 жыл бұрын

@@MerryMerryGold Except, Scrin did ordered the invasion of earth at the end of the game.

@doggo_woo

2 жыл бұрын

I think scrin targets "optimal" planets and seed them with tiberium. Then after the seed has spread enough, (enough to kill any life on the planet) they come over to harvest the tiberium. Remember, almost all their structures use tiberium.

@Jethild

2 жыл бұрын

@@MerryMerryGold The issue here, is that the Overlord of the Scrin wanted more info about Kane. And since Kane was on Earth, it made since for him to want to do another invasion. Get Kane, wipe out the humans and harvest the planet.

Nice to see the Scrin get more attention. I always seeing mods come up with new units for them. Most C&C factions are easy to design for (not saying I could do it but their aesthetic makes it easy for something to fit into them). The Scrin's units looking so alien means it's not easy to design something that looks in place with them, which makes me love seeing mods that came up with new Scrin units.

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

I've just gone back to Tiberium Wars and have yet to try installing any mods. I've heard plenty of good things from "Tiberium Essence", but I'd like to ask your opinion on what mods do you believe introduce the best new units for the Scrin. And by "best", I mean in terms of them fitting aesthetically with their alien design, not necessarily being good in gameplay.

@dragonstormx

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDibara I haven't looked at all the mods so I'm not sure. I'm also not expert when it comes to game balance.

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonstormx It's okay. As I said, "game balance" is not what I'm looking for. Just more units added for the Scrin, but that feel "fitting" and not too obviously fanmade or out of character.

They can be both living and biomechanical, Tiberium lifeform combined with Tiberium deposits. Like I other shows with a living growing space ship.

I love the scrinn. They're mysterious and dangerous rolled into a one epic alien species that is rare in both games and movies.

@spartanx9293

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure you weren't one of those assholes who spammed the f****** carriers

@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4

2 жыл бұрын

@@spartanx9293 don't lump me in with those uncultured barbarians. I've got class. Fully upgraded ground units zerg rush. I wittle down the enemy player by attrition. Like how the scrin wanted it.

@Rell2601

2 жыл бұрын

The Shivans from Freespace gave me a similar vibe.

It's a stag bettle? Nah, LOBSTER!!

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

I can see that.

Love the new intro using Tiberian Sun's.

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

Dude I love your soo much that I literally count every second when you're new video will be uploaded and enjoy every second watching it . Keep up the good work.

I like the new intro. The civilian narrative at ~15:06 has a “War of the Worlds” vibe.

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

I can see that.

Every new video is a great gift! Thank you for that journey to the old good days of Tiberium wars!

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

Banshee or Venom? hahaha Either good video as always!

Holy crap. If that was considered their civilian fleet, I shudder to think what their invasion fleet would be like. Do you think earth stands a chance?

@igncom1

2 жыл бұрын

I'm of the mind that the Scrin aren't exactly some grand empire but are more like a super drug cartel. Their mining fleet might not be tip top, but they are unlikely to be all that regressive when compared to other Scrin sects either. Of course this WAS just a mining foreman and its attached cults from the traveller and reaper. So perhaps there is a cult of the overlord we have yet to see?

@stilettoassassino

2 жыл бұрын

@@igncom1 Interesting perspective. Too bad we won't find out any time soon :(

@cleeiii357

Жыл бұрын

@@igncom1 Kane did refer to them as "cult of addiction in the guise of a species". So your theory may not be far off.

I'm a simple man. I see Jethild, I consume.

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

Simple things are nice.

This is such niche content. I like

In my family the devistator warship is known as krabis meaning crab, this is because we couldnt speak english when we where first playing this game.

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

🦀

@Utubesuperstar

2 жыл бұрын

It more resembles a lobster imo

Your videos get better with every upload and I can't stop watching them keep up the good work.

@D4rkn3ss2000

2 жыл бұрын

Eyyy we have the same pfp of the Messiah. KANE LIVES!

I love me a bit of Scrin lore.

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

Love bugs

A easy term for scrin aircraft would be just "aerospace"

You know it's a good day when I see a new video from you guys! ;)

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

You are the best in game description! Keep doing a great job !

i like the new selection screen or whatever it is

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

Me too.

The intro is sooo great dude this tib sun menu is great keep it up man

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

How to make a better C&C 4- Have the second Scrin Invasion force come via Threshold Tower 19 but a counter invasion on the Scrins homeworld via the same means. So a war on 2 fronts.

@igncom1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I always thought that was LEGIONs mission when he was sent through the tower at the end of Kanes Wrath. Attack the Scrin where it hurts them the most, the centre of their mining operations. Leading the Scrin to counter attack either through the tower or more conventionally by space where they would run smack bang into GDI.

@factfiend1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@igncom1 Final Mission: A combined GDI/Nod/Cabal force captures the Threshold Tower and begins an invasion using their epic units as the tip of the spear. Those being the Mammoth MK. II, the Montauk, and the Core Defender. These three clear out a large staging area for the MCVs to come through and a decently sized escort force. Periodically reinforcements will pour through, as long as the epic units survive. You will not be able to build anymore. Push through the heavy Scrin defenses and forces by any means necessary. When you do that, you begin the siege of the Overlords fortress. Numerous endings await based on how you finish the mission.

This is a great video! Keep up Jet!

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

Wow man this is a masterpiece. Very interesting to watch for a big c&c fan. Thanks!

Love your videos man

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

YES! Was waitin for this one

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

And now it’s here.

I always thought giving a siege weapon flying capabilities was an insane design choice.

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

Good point.

I just love all of yours video. Good job !

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

Scrib air force is the greatest mystery of that war ie how exactly Nod and GDI were able to counter it?

@MrJJandJim

2 жыл бұрын

Improvise, adapt, overcome?

@Chido93

2 жыл бұрын

maybe weapons so low tech that they didn't know how to defend against them

@daorkimedes7076

2 жыл бұрын

*equips caveman bonk stik with malicious intent*

@ReaVen443

2 жыл бұрын

Empire Earth any one?

@MrJJandJim

2 жыл бұрын

@jeremy ray I like that saying! Is it a quote frome somewhere? Or did you come up with it?

Nice! Another video on this lore!

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

Great video as always, keep them up!

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻too

Hey love your videos they are very high quality for such a small community. Keep up the great work and maybe a video on all the elite units like commandos and heavy infantry like zone troopers and enlightened? That would be cool

Scrim looks like both an insect and a living machine.. intriguing

A legendary video as usual

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

Gdi Rocket soldier to Gdi command central - "The scrin aircraft are too much! " "Tell us soldier, what's attacking your position?" "It's a Pac, man!" "Repeat soldier, did you just say you were being attacked by a flying 1980's computer game icon?" 'Turns, to the guy in the chair next to him' "Tiberium exposure sure has some weird hallucinogenic effects, huh?"

Another great video! Wish to see more about Scrin. I was angry when I saw that Scrin campaign had only 4 missions. EA should add Scrin in an expansion, so they maybe have longer campaign.

@Jethild

2 жыл бұрын

The Scrin campaign was apparently supposed to be 8 missions long but the devs didn't have time to complete it before release.

@Archont_

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jethild Thanks for answer. Hmm, 8 is still little. I think TW should be about war between GDI and Nod, than whole expansion about Scrin invasion. EA is always to hurry with their games and changes mind to often.

Really enjoyed this. Scrin are the best 😊

Early, love your videos!

Great video! I like the new introduction.

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto.

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Probably a stretch, but could we ever get an analysis on Soviet Tesla Coils?

@matsuhikotakagawa8060

2 жыл бұрын

Owh... that should be fun !!!

Planetary Assault Carrier: *Exists* Protoss Carrier: "You'll be hearing from my lawyers. "

Love your vids!

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

I love how c&c 3 has these codec entries that flesh out the universe

They should just make a new tib 4. Scrin main invasion would make a great storyline

What's insane to think about is that the Scrin we saw in C&C 3 was just a small recon force. If that was a light scouting unit... Jesus. That's nutty.

I think the devastator warships 'pincers' they kinda act like protoss tempest where they concentrate energy while the things in the middle sling them at high speeds

It'd be cool if the modding community came together and developed a large variety of new scrin units based on overlord's main army, a campaign with GDI and Nod fighting for the survival of the species would be epic.

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that kind of scenario (storywise) end with Kane having to try and reach some diplomatic agreement with the Scrin? Between Earth and the mining corporation that came along? Cause the finest technologies of both GDI and Nod were almost beaten by what was later revealed to be *outdated private security.* So it stands to reason, Earth itself would have NO CHANCE against the Scrin's finest military technology, let alone with GDI and Nod fighting as seperate factions! And heck, even then, who's to say Kane himself would be the one to take that initiative? His modus operandi always seems to be about exploitation and deceit. He strikes me more as attempting to backstab the Scrin or use their Threshold Towers to "ascend"/get out of the planet. I feel higher ups from GDI and *some sensible Nod Commander* would have to be the ones in trying to reach negoyiations with the Scrin. That, of course, after a massive beating from their top of the line military fleet.

*one correction; Nod didn't use Banshees during TW3. They used Venoms and Vertigos.

I have an unpopular opinion. I would like to hear about Tib 4 vehicles and tech, but hear me out. As theoretical designs.

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

Or, hear me out: _the Scrin enslave all of humanity and their once military organizations, GDI and Nod, are forced to serve them as part of their Ichor mining operations in other planets of the galaxy._ _The vehicles they employ for this:_ *the units we see from CnC 4.* Nah, for real, the whole walker mobile base thing looks like something both GDI and Nod would develop for planetary exploration! As in, the enviroments they'll get thrown in is so unknown, they need to fit as many installations and structures inside one mobile thing in order to safely explore the region of some unknown planet that the Scrin decided to throw them at. So then we could have missions/Maps where the local enviroment and atmosphere is similar enough to Earth's that you can use the traditional base building gameplay of the older games, AND we could have missions/Maps where the enviroment is so hostile and inospitable that the giant walker base is the only way to consistently build vehicles and harvest Tiberium (or Ichor, as the Scrin like to call it). And then maybe, you'd have to advance to a certain point where you can build, say, an Atmosphere Cleanser or a Terraforming Platform and this structure allows you to finally build bases in the traditional way, but only over a limited ammount of space. The territory on the radius of this special structure. I dunno, man! I just think the mobile base walker was a cool concept that was horrifically misused in CnC 4! It could've been awesome! It could've worked! *But they basically shit on it.*

i think there might be a mistake at 6:52 and 8:18, should be venom instead of banshee

@Jethild

2 жыл бұрын

Yep you are correct. I got the 2 Nod aircraft mixed up with one another.

@nikkity5491

2 жыл бұрын

Either way it still works lol

Fighter carrier is tough, but with quick timing and reaction, you can easily get the best of them. Vindicators are also surprisingly good against them, despite being mainly bombers.

Nice work, what will be next.

imagine a command and conquer with space combat, as GDI, the scrin, and potentiall Nod fight for the earth orbit, than moon, mars, and into the solar system

USA arsenal next? Love 2 see the aircraft

I’m surprised you didn’t cover the more unknown Alien ships that maybe of Scrin design also. Particularly the alien space ship from the second Tiberium war and the UFO from C&C renegade in addition to some rather strange vessels only seen in the cutscenes.

@Jethild

2 жыл бұрын

Well like you said, those ships are more unknown as to their origins. So we can't say with 100% certainty that they are Scrin, which is what I wanted the focus of this video to be. In regards to the ship from Tiberian Sun, it was built based off information that the Brotherhood retrieved from the Tacitus. While the Tacitus itself is an alien artifact, it's true origin is unknown. So we cannot say for certain that it is an artifact of the Scrin, and that the design of the ship is based off the Scrin. Though there is the theory, based off Westwood's CnC Tiberian Sun story bible, that the Tacitus was from an ancient alien race that had fought the Scrin in the past and stored all their knowledge about them in the Tacitus. However, it's questionable how much of that information actually got carried over to EA after Westwood was shut down and assigned a new team to handle the CnC IP. I did make mention of the Renegade ship in my Scrin faction video. It could be Scrin due to it's purple and blue color, but the overall design of it doesn't really match that of the ships we see during the Third Tiberium War. Though Westwood may have had a different interpretation of the Scrin compared to the devs that made CnC3. Again, we just don't know how much of that info was actually carried over. As to the vessels in the cutscenes, for CnC 3, the large ship you see at around 6:33 in the video is actually an early design of the Planetary Assault Carrier. The thumbnail for this video is the concept art that that ship is based off of. For some reason during production the devs decided to change the design of the PAC to the current in-game version.

@pyrosauria7444

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jethild the original design for the PAC honestly looks cooler, even if it maybe confusing and looks too similar to Protoss carriers.

@Mglue3

2 жыл бұрын

The ship you defend in the early gdi sequence of tiberian sun is definitely of scrin origin. Unknown type though

@Jethild

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mglue3 In one of the cutscenes during the Nod campaign, Kane himself says "The underground hangar you are about to enter houses an alien warship, constructed at the end of the last war. The technology in this ship is more valuable to the Brotherhood than anything that has come before." And during the GDI campaign after assaulting Vega's base, McNeil interrogates him about the technology on the UFO, and he says "Kane didn't steel it. He made it." Later in the game during both campaigns we find out it wasn't the ship itself that was important to Kane, but the Tacitus that was inside of it.

@BlackLiger788

2 жыл бұрын

I always regarded that as a nod attempt at repairing a devastator warship

Like to see Nod aircraft vid.

Nice

Didn't you mean 'Venom craft' instead of 'Banshees'? Nod Banshees are TibWar 2, though I was sad not to see those UFO things again this time around

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

He added a “pinned” comment that it should have been venom.

Scrin Aircraft Scrin & Traveller-59 Scrin Planetary Assault Carrier (PAC) Stormrider Devastator Warship Traveller-59 Traveller-59 Planetary Assault Carrier (PAC) Traveller-59 Stormrider Traveller-59 Devastator Warship

Bro get in, new c&c lore just dropped.

Fuck I gotta replay C&C3. I still remember the feeling of seeing the scrin ship in tiberian sun for the first time.

The Scrin were so cool.

Not stag beetle, but flying space lobster!

nice :)

Are you going to make a Space Stations, Kodiak, Dropship and Mammoth Mk II as your next video???

Jethild its me Joshua lang Kotrc and i did a drawing of BROTHERHOOD of nod and scrin

I can only hope, with videos like this, a new generation will discover C&C

I thought the devastator was a lobster. Pretty cool that the weapon has my name. I didn't know that but they were one of my favourite units to use along with PACs to protect them. Flattens entire bases really quick. At least when I'm not using the mothership to nuke everything.

I think it's pretty safe to assume that almost, if not all scrin units are tiberium based cyborgs.

@serinahighcomasi2248

2 жыл бұрын

Synthorgs, to be exact. Synthetic living beings constructed from the bottom up.

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

@@serinahighcomasi2248 First time hearing that term. *Awesome.* 👍

14:04 so just like the alien ships from Independence Day, nice 👌.

I did want to see a game where the Scrin tried a second invasion; Command and Conquer Tib wars 2: Ichor boogaloo.

why does this feel so much like starcraft but i just noticed these dudes need gravity stabilizires does that mean starcraft dudes are advanced than them since they dont need a gravitational stabilizer structures? even the zerg adapted for it they even needed repair drones when there is a auto repair for machines and structures

Not sure if someone noticed, but wasn't the nod aircraft was based on the scrin stormrider?

Very cool and informative video. It's really too bad that "second invasion" never occurred!

I have a theory: The scrin are silicon-based life, and their bodies use tiberium for fuel, hence why they call it "ichor", since it's their "life blood". The reason that it's impossible to tell if their units are biological or mechanical is because they're naturally evolved mechanical organisms: they literally are "machines, but alive".

@serinahighcomasi2248

10 ай бұрын

Interesting hypothesis. Personally I’d believed their infantry and maybe aircraft at least to be some kind of synthorg or nanorg; a ‘living’ synthetic being but ‘grown’ much like an organic creature does; their biomimetic appearance being a nice side effect of their growth/assembly process.

First? Also, just wgat I needed for this day, great video.

I was always wondering the relation between the scrin ship in tiberian sun and scrin we met in CNC3

@matsuhikotakagawa8060

2 жыл бұрын

From what I read and watch, the TS Scrin was Nod's attempt to replicate an old-original Scrin spaceship obtained through the Tacitus... It was still being developed... until the wise crack-pot general VEGA took it.

I really think for future videos you should use the Scrin's original Blue colour from Tiberium Wars, rather than the purple from Kane's Wrath.

So when will this full invasion force of Scrin arrive?

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

We don’t know. I guess whenever EA gets around to it.

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

@@RC-qv9in *So never, basically.* 😑

Banshees were a Tib sun unit and weren't present in Tib Wars. Venoms and Vertigos were Nod's aircraft of choice in Tib Wars and Kane's Wrath.

Oh Hello

@RC-qv9in

2 жыл бұрын

Hello.

@lcoop9351

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there.

Even now we didn't get to see the invasion force

Ah, I love all this channels arising, this game was like underground culture, now there's even shitposting (refer to scorched earth channel), tg analysis and more.