I love the princess and the frog. They did not do the movie justice with this.... Its OK to have bad guys. They should have retold the main story with the shadow man. They knew this was a controversial change and it looks like the budget cut it regardless.....

@therealventures

2 ай бұрын

Right?! If you're going to make a new story, at least make it good. If not, a Storybook ride would've been the best route.

@TheShriddler

2 ай бұрын

What’s the storybook reason for why we survive the drop if Dr. Facilier is responsible for it? Splash has that narrative reason. If we make it a storybook ride, what corresponds in the movie that makes any sense?

@pinguinboy2008

2 ай бұрын

They could do the shadows with the lift hill up then have the drop to end with mama Odie just like in the movie.

@Kylocat879

2 ай бұрын

@@TheShriddler it could have been when the shadows are dragging him back into hell. And then after you drop you see his gravestone maybe or something

@ScoobyandShaggy5554

2 ай бұрын

@@TheShriddlerwhat’s the reason ray is alive and singing?

The fact that someone thought this was a good idea is still insane to me

@sebclot9478

2 ай бұрын

Me too!

@sealy1

Күн бұрын

It makes me so insanely sad

I don't think I've been more depressed looking at ride footage than this one, it really made me realize what we lost, and how it's never coming back.

@sealy1

Күн бұрын

It severely hurts my soul.

'Proof positive that Imagineers of yesteryear were far more talented and imaginative than today's... Even with today's superior technology, Splash Mountain was far more engaging and well thought out.

@Incomudro1963

2 ай бұрын

100%. It's like Star Wars a New Hope vs The Rise of Skywalker. All the tech in the world does not make for a better experience.

@cboncle435

2 ай бұрын

they are not less talented, the main problem is the fact that they are now restrained to do what they want to do, they are fans just like you and me, and if they had the occasion they would had brought back classical rides and make original experiences, the lack of technological advancement nowadays is due to the closure of mapo in 2010s, they were responsible for big animatronic capacity attraction, all of what happens now is just due to the shit path that this company is taking and their bad choices...

@disneytherapy8028

2 ай бұрын

Agree 100%

@imgrggbsn

2 ай бұрын

The talent is there, they just are constantly battling budget cuts and being told to keep costs as low as possible from corporate.

@Incomudro1963

2 ай бұрын

@@cboncle435 Different kind of talent. I don't believe they have the talent of scene composition that the classic guys had. Those guys were animators, and knew how to compose each shot of a dark ride. That's why those rides even work when the AA's are not functioning. Looking at Tiana's, every scene is just a group of AA's clustered together. There are no details, there's no humor, there's really nothing to look at.

If they were going to do the ride they should have based it on the Princess and the Frog not some food festival.

The Tiana’s bayou adventure story feels like a Disney junior episode rather than a emotional thrill ride with an actually good story.

@amazingjason455

2 ай бұрын

What is the plot? A young determined young woman overcomes adversity to make her dreams of success come true? No. Just play music and party. This totally lacks what made the movie inspirational, encouraging, and valuable.

@Reeal15

2 ай бұрын

Did they say it was supposed to be an "emotional thrill ride"..? Splash Mountain was a snoozefest leisurely log flume with vague southern folk theming that was tied to an old racist movie. It wasn't meant to be "emotional" or "thrilling." It's just a fun, Princess-and-the-Frog-themed log ride.

@Reeal15

2 ай бұрын

@@amazingjason455 It's a log flume FFS. Did you seriously expect a compelling retelling of the movie!? These types of rides are not and never have been meant for that. It's just loosely themed around a fun after-the-movie 'story.'

@amazingjason455

2 ай бұрын

@@Reeal15I watched the old movie. It wasn’t racist. The only human characters who were unlikable or portrayed negatively were the bratty white kids.

@joncrowley8227

2 ай бұрын

Puhleeze. And did Splash emotionally transform you? Has pirates opened your eyes to the sort of treachery they inflicted? Did you feel Dumbo overcome the years of scorn he faced with the transformative flight? IT'S AN ATTRACTION.

As an older attraction, Splash seems to have more personality than the brand new Tiana. Tiana is very dark in spots, and that may be because it was filmed later in the day but it feels like it was done on purpose to hide the fact that there is nothing there. That final song doesn't have the same feel to it as the Splash one in my opinion. Also, I am not a fan of all the screens being used. At least the ride itself didn't change, mechanically, and you still get the thrill from the hill.

@CosplayCore

2 ай бұрын

That was actually the one change I was personally hoping for… But that’s because I can’t do thrill rides at all. I love riding through a well-done story with well placed music and audio… my body and anxiety disorder were never able to handle that drop (though I loved Splash anyway for the music and story). And I love “The Princess and the Frog” but… not only can I not ride this, it also doesn’t seem worth suffering the drop for me… and I did the drop twice for Splash.

@TECfan1

2 ай бұрын

I feel like there could have been a lot more screens but thankfully there werent. There were really only some to add dimension to the ride, but they weren't overpowering.

@sealy1

Күн бұрын

Only reason I “like” this ride is because of what it used to be. I only enjoy the fact that something beautiful used to be there, and being able to experience the same track brings back a lot of memories. Still, it’s far from the same. (Not the track, that is.) Whoever had this idea has to be so unbelievably dumb, it’s shocking they got out of school.

No contest, and everybody knows it. Splash was the most popular attraction because it was a great ride. Current team at Disney just doesn't have the chops to create a winner.

@gwenmloveskpopandmore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah one of the people working on it dropped out

@jasminedillahunt2984

2 ай бұрын

I feel like people are like deliberately trying to troll or pranked over this. It’s literally just thorns and a desert on splash like I don’t know what the hell magic y’all are spelled bond by dust and rocks and critters OK, I guess it’s a choice. To me the lights and the flowers are a hell of a lot more beautiful than a stump and some thorns, but that’s just me. Not to mention I’d rather sing about going down to Bayou than some cover-up racist-ass song but I guess that’s just my black ass lol

@shadowflame68

2 ай бұрын

@@jasminedillahunt2984 I’m shocked to find someone with a brain down here, I feel like I’m going crazy, the new one is clearly so much better??? Like it’s not even close, the old one just looks sad and depressing and abandoned in comparison

@disneyee7643

2 ай бұрын

Shiny objects to attract fish. Fish and people giving thousands to Disney Corp. Same thing. Almost said Crap. instead of Corp. Not that big of a mistake.

@jasminedillahunt2984

2 ай бұрын

@@disneyee7643 😐 ok

Splash mountain had a story line. This new one seems like a lot of shit thrown together but without a story line to follow

Proof that superior tech does not make for a superior experience.

@Reeal15

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, because a bunch of animatronic hillbilly rabbits and chickens singing an annoying song from a racist movie about the old south was a "superior experience"...

@chadwpalm

2 ай бұрын

@@Reeal15 In every way shape and form.

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

@@Reeal15 It had an actual story that worked with the flow of the ride, for one thing.

@kaleycooper9111

2 ай бұрын

@@A_A610 Literally no one pays attention to the story in these rides. There’s no point in bothering creating a story if 1 out of 1,000 guests will bother following it. It’s just a fun log fume ride that everyone goes on for the thrilling drop. Everything in between is filler long-time guests don’t care about

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

@@kaleycooper9111 Even if you're not actively following it, the beats of the story and the resulting tones still resonate subconsciously. Splash Mountain worked because everything dramatically built up to the final drop. Even if you completely ignored the story, you could still very easily tell the tone was getting darker and more threatening leading to the final drop. I've been on plenty of other log flumes, but the buildup on Splash Mountain's made it work so much better. Without the same story beats, or even a meaningful shift in tone, the drop here just kind of...appears for no real reason other than to be there. It feels really out of place and pointless instead of being the focal point.

Tianas you can tell the spent most of their budget on lighting and the tianas and Louis animatronics . Splash had way more animatronics most we’re recycled but the ride felt more full in scenes and just more scenes tianas is lacking in turns just complete darkness. Hopefully this is 1.0V

@JSwag_Reviews

2 ай бұрын

Disneyworld one had completely fresh animatronics I believe.

@JavaCake

2 ай бұрын

@@JSwag_Reviewscorrect

Tiana's Bayou Adventure is definitely superior when it comes to the lighting and sophistication of the main animatronic figures. But the story and pacing are really weak compared to Splash Mountain, especially all the empty/bare spaces where nothing happens and everything's oddly quiet. Also, they really messed up "Dig a Little Deeper". 🤦🏻‍♂

@WDWCentral

2 ай бұрын

Would you like this ride to come to DLP?

@alfredosalume6949

2 ай бұрын

not even the pixie dusters can claim bayou is better than splash the differences are too many too great in a bad way

@KnottsBear-yTalesPreserved

2 ай бұрын

@@WDWCentralConsidering Splash isn't there. I don't see it happening unless if they do a different approach.

@WDWCentral

2 ай бұрын

@@KnottsBear-yTalesPreserved I asked more as an opinion… They considered adding many water rides before including a western splash mountain…

@GDNebula_

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

Outside the main cast, alot of the animatronics on the Tiana ride pale in comparison to the background characters on Splash, who not only had much more movements, but also more personality than the Tiana ones. There's also no story here, no thematic purpose, no stakes either, it just feels boring. I can't believe Iger was actually right about that

@gratefuldoge8598

2 ай бұрын

What year is your cut off for Chuck E upgrades?

@-Tekuo-

2 ай бұрын

What? Sounds like you're just unhappy about Splash Mountain being gone which i can get but you gotta be kidding when you say the animatronics there are better.

@aranchi20

2 ай бұрын

@@-Tekuo- I think he just means there's more of them and a wider variety of them. These animatronics are technologically better but because they're so expensive, there's so few of them that it leaves a lot of empty space throughout the rest of the ride. Plus a ton of stuff got replaced by screens

@-Tekuo-

2 ай бұрын

@@aranchi20 That part i could understand, that's the downside of them being so expensive. Splash Mountain has more to fill the ride but some of them move up and down on a stick only. Fine by me but not what i'd call "Paling in comparision" The screens is what i dislike most about this. Let's say its Disney trying to cut costs somewhere at least. If used cleverly screens can be great.

@LOLWAAHH

2 ай бұрын

Womp womp

that board with a painted knife and vegetables............groundbreaking stupidity

@therealventures

2 ай бұрын

Lmao yes

@FanThemePark

2 ай бұрын

They should just not have included it at all.

@SirAbyss

2 ай бұрын

It's so hideous and garish, and completely distracts from the beauty of the outdoor scene. Why the hell is it even there?

@zeekbjac

2 ай бұрын

You just picking stuff out that’s pointless, it was a regular boring fence before

@1983horizons1

2 ай бұрын

I was kind of hoping they'd get rid of this fence entirely. It was added a few years after the ride opened and must serve some purpose, but it's always been so random, especially the way it bisect the barn. I don't think Disneyland's even has it. I'm wondering if the WDW crowds kept trying to step out of the logs.

I honestly wish the story of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure was on the actual movie instead. Especially since there is a lot of dead space, and there isn’t really a good plot nor conflict. Like I was hoping Dr. Facilier would be for the drop.

@2ERMINAL

2 ай бұрын

They could have made the Laughing Place the 'Other Side' with tons of shadowy silhouettes as the 'friends'. It'd work with it being set after the movie anyways if you extend canon you get sent to the Other Side and it has glowing / blacklight effects, meet Facilier who's trapped there,( imagine an effect where the skull mask appears on his face! ), are you reaaaady', then escape out the drop and see his grave before the finale.

I love Princess and the Frog, but Splash Mountain feels more fun seeing the two side by side. There were TONS of animatronics so it always felt like there was something to look at and made the place full of energy. There's a lot of dead space in Bayou Adventure that makes the ride feel boring. Also, the big drop definitely should've had Facilier to up the climax of the drop.

@trer24

2 ай бұрын

Ehh. An animatronic that only moves up and down or one arm is just as pointless.

@KnottsBear-yTalesPreserved

2 ай бұрын

Disagree, sometimes quantity over quality is not a good thing. One of my father's complaints with the old ride was how there was too many figures. Which I didn't always agree with... but you know...

@therealventures

2 ай бұрын

Fair point.

@MichaelJacksonRobloxGaming

2 ай бұрын

Also Facelier is dead. So how would be come back? I would love to see Facelier but he’s dead

@eleanorligon7941

2 ай бұрын

@@MichaelJacksonRobloxGamingTrue but so is Ray and he shows up in the shrunk part so it’s not like they had a problem with breaking the canon for the rides story. I don’t think it would have been hard for them to explain him coming back from the shadows to try and get his revenge on Tiana. The story could have started out the same with small hints in his shadow projected behind the characters then through some Voodoo magic he reveals himself leading to Tiana escaping with the climatic drop. I actually thought he was gonna show up in that long empty portion before you’re shrunk. I just don’t understand why you would have a greatest hit compilation of songs from the movie and then not include one of the best. I wouldn’t say I’m all that nostalgic for splash mountain in fact I found it a little boring (don’t shoot just how I felt about it) but even I have to admit the tension was way better leading to the drop made my heart go way faster then it would have on a normal log flume. There’s no real tension in this ride now and I feel like that may mess with the experience for many riders, but we will have to wait and see.

more dead space in this ride and we would have to resuscitate Tiana and friends. No story whatsoever. Seeing Tiana in her explorer's outfit gets exhausting. Can't believe they made such an exciting ride a boring one. And the laughing place, they should have burned the whole thing. Just a bunch of mushrooms :(

@Vespyr_

2 ай бұрын

Can't have Tiana looking like a princess. Disney is anti princess now. Thanks feminists.

I’ve been trying to stay positive but I can’t lie, this got me really sad that Splash is gone, Tiana’s has some really good things, the lighting is incredible and the new animatronics are impressively fluid, but there’s no charm, there’s not a lot of fun, it just feels lesser.

This feels like one of those knock off rides you see in some of the European theme parks. At least Splash lives on in Tokyo, and after seeing what a dud Tiana's turned out to be, I expect OLC to dig in their heels and never allow Splash to be replaced by this.

@sebclot9478

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

@sealy1

Күн бұрын

YES

The new animatronics are really impressive and the final scene looks great. My only real problem with the ride is there's no tension - there's no villain, no danger. Not even the big final drop is framed as something scary within the ride's story. As someone who loved Splash Mountain (by which I mean the ride and characters in isolation, not the movie it was based off of) I have mixed feelings about this retheme. The new bayou overlay looks really pretty, but I think the story needs tweaking.

@goaliegeorge

2 ай бұрын

You’ve obviously never watched the movie. Or you’re letting idiots tell you what to think about it. It was a wholesome tale and they cannot let people know that former slaves and plantation owners got along. Goes again the mind controlling narrative. Slavery is wrong, but these people in many cases were part of the family, as shown in this movie. So, go watch it and try to wake up. And splash was 1000x better than this pandering crap. Tiana should have gotten her own attraction and not a rehash.

@timeflys3248

2 ай бұрын

What does this reply have to do with this comment?​

@AuraLeafstorm

2 ай бұрын

@@timeflys3248 Man's trying to convince me that Song of the South is a good movie.

@princesspikachu3915

2 ай бұрын

Splash Mountain is based on Song of the South. Song of the South is about a wise old black man comforting a little white boy with stories about animals while his parents are temporarily separated. The white boy considers the black man as his best friend. The white boys mother, Ms. Sally, doesn’t like the stories and tells the black man to stay away from her son. He decides to leave and the white boy gets hurt by a bull when going into it’s fence trying to stop the black friend from leaving. It ends happily ever after with the boy making a full recovery after his dad comes back and it shows him, his black friend Toby, and little girl friend Ginny singing and the animals from the black man’s stories being real and the black man rubbing his eyes like he’s seeing things. Really cute movie and it’s message is anti censorship and anti racist. The black man is a good role model and positive representation. Love that James Basket performance.

@AuraLeafstorm

2 ай бұрын

@@princesspikachu3915 The problem with the movie is its portrayal of black workers and maids being merry and happily contented working the fields of a plantation owned by a rich white family during a racially inequitable period of history. While it's important to acknowledge history for what it is rather than refusing to admit that it happened, there are some historical periods, events and settings that are simply not appropriate to "Disney-fy" in a children's movie. I'm aware the movie takes place during the Reconstruction Era, after the American Civil War, which means that the black characters in the movie are not slaves, and that's a common point defenders of the movie like to use. But neither are they treated with the same degree of respect or status as the white characters in the story, which is what makes the setting so inappropriate to paint with a lens of whimsy or nostalgia. Yes, the movie portrays itself as innocent and cute - but context matters, and portraying an inequitable society in which the oppressed group is contented in their oppression is never appropriate. Perhaps the film is not malicious in intent so much as it is dangerously ignorant, but that's still something that needs to be openly acknowledged about it. The animated segments fare a lot better because they were based off of preexisting African fables and folk tales, so it's no surprise that the ride took only from the animated segments and disregarded the rest of the movie. As I said previously, I liked the Brers, and I liked the ride. Splash Mountain was actually my favorite ride, so I understand the people who are still so upset that it's gone. I don't see a problem with Brer Rabbit as a character - but there is most certainly a problem with Song of the South.

The appeal of Splash Mountain was that you were travelling through this hidden community of critters that slowly reveals itself as the ride progresses. The Brer Rabbit narrative was just a reason for the journey to happen. Bayou Adventure starts off the same, gives you a reason for travelling into the Bayou, but there is no sense of travelling through this hidden critter community. It's just a sequence of lifeless set pieces. They could have kept most of the side characters from Splash Mountain and just replaced the narrative centric scenes.

@chadwpalm

2 ай бұрын

"It's just a sequence of lifeless set pieces." - Perfect explanation.

@mk97232

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Yes! You articulate what made Splash Mountain work. It wasn't the "story" as so many people insist. Story isn't really important for a theme park ride. Quality set design is what matters. Of course, pacing and flow matter enormously too, but strict narrative logic doesn't. What SM had and TBA lacks are (1) well-populated scenes with tons of stuff to look at; SM placed charming details into every nook and cranny; (2) mood/emotional modulation; the tone of SM changed during the course the ride whereas TBA maintains the same tone throughout: and (3) conflict, which is related to the previous; conflict-less rides can work (e.g. Seven Dwarfs Mine Train) but long attractions, such as SM, need conflict to generate a payoff at the end. Also, the dialogue in TBA is super cringey.

@1983horizons1

2 ай бұрын

@@mk97232 The idea that Disney attractions need to tell as story is perpetuated by the company themselves. Most of the “great” Disney attractions emphasize atmosphere over story. Atmospheric immersion is what made the Disney parks worth visiting. Anyone can pick up a movie or video game or even a book for a good story. Atmosphere is the best use of three dimensional themed space. Not story.

@mk97232

2 ай бұрын

@@1983horizons1 Couldn't agree more. I think WDI's emphasis on "story" started with Eisner in the 80s. And, if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure old-school WED designers like Marc Davis rejected story as central to themed design.

"Boring." - Bob Iger

@OfficialSapphirePhoenix

2 ай бұрын

The one thing he got right...

@prettycyber8332

2 ай бұрын

Never said that quit lying

@GirthQuake416

2 ай бұрын

@@prettycyber8332yes he did …the fact Google is a thing and you can fact check and you’re still wrong is sad yet on brand for you

@sebclot9478

2 ай бұрын

I say that "Boring" is a generous characterization of this dumpster fire.

@Nellysland

2 ай бұрын

he signed off on the ride btw, hope this helps

I said it on another video but while I think the animatronics look great, there is no way current Disney management keeps those things properly maintained and in optimal condition.

@sebclot9478

2 ай бұрын

I heard the thing was breaking down like crazy during the preview from multiple sources. Imagine when it is in everyday operation.

Splash was spellcasting. So immersive psychedelic and put you in a trance. This ride just doesnt have the same atmospheric or musical storytelling. In other words its not the visuals i take issue with its everything else. Rsther than unexpected drops and tonal shifts in the music and lighting theres all these voiceovers telling you whats going on. Oh were shrinking now. Oh now were big again. Now were going to a party. Now were looking for food. Okay. Should have been all voodoo from the drop in the middle of the ride until the big drop at the end. The song at the end special spice should play earlier, before you get to the scene. You hear about 16 counts of it. Nobody will learn the song and find it catchy if they only hear it for 20 seconds

@superbadgeethan8335

2 ай бұрын

Agree, but I knew they weren't gonna do it. They changed this ride for the same reason. They're scared to add anything controversial. They keep hinting at this villians park, but even IF they do it, it's gonna be the biggest money grab in the smallest area. Packed full of marketing, shopping, food, photo ops, a 4 hour meet and greet, and 2 rides with no theme. I guess they forget why we fell in love with these characters and Disney in the first place.

@davidnevolo4402

2 ай бұрын

@@superbadgeethan8335 villains land with no conflict, skulls, fear, drama

Back when Splash was closing I went on it 18 times in one day. That made me notice how much the ride was filled with small details. Whether it was an animatronics, the gorgeous scenery, or details you'd normally miss like a book next to a character. You could tell how much hard work and love went into it. Now watching Bayou Adventure, it just feels soulless. They took Splash's corpse and filled it with hobby lobby plants and threw in an animatronic or two. Br'er Rabbit and Tiana deserved better.

Disney has let its creative leadership (talent, taste, vision holders) go in exchange for ill-equipped, inexperienced cheerleaders who don’t know how to lead creative projects at a high level of execution. These are people who think it’s unkind to critique or push those around you to a higher standard. It will seem like all is happy and well but it will cost Disney in the long run.

A lot of people didn't want Splash Mountain to go. I felt that, but I LOVE Princess and the Frog and was super excited to see what they could do with the property. So much potential. And we got... this. Like, it's fine... but where's the suspense? Why didn't they just do the story of the movie so Facilier could be on the ride? It would have been so much more exciting. The way the original built up the suspense before the big drop was genius. Such a shame they couldn't replicate that. I mean, they didn't even TRY.

@Goodmorningworld_howareyou

2 ай бұрын

Yeah they could’ve did the movie and put it into the ride.

@Goodmorningworld_howareyou

2 ай бұрын

But its ok I luv it.

Wow...just...wow. I was all on board with this change until I actually saw it and then...wow. I am in complete awe at how badly they screwed that up.

This is what happens when a cost cutting accountant "Charita Carter" with no creative experience is put in charge of Disney Imagineering. Notice NO craftsmanship at all!!! They stripped splash mountain, didn't create anything requiring skill, they just bought flowers from Hobby Lobby, made some or recycled into teddy bear animatronics, and the only construction was the last scene that any construction worker could do. Imagineering team have no talent or craftsmen anymore. They strip rides (she did Great Movie Ride too), replace with cheap projections and things you can buy at any made in China craft or thrift shop. Hotels too. All custom furnishings replaced with Super 8 Motel decor, etc. Then they cut out fast pass, raise prices, cut food quality. I guess Disney's new target market are people that think McDonald's food is gourmet and Walmart items are fine craftsmanship, etc. Disney executives probably think most can't appreciate little details, craftsmanship, quality food, etc, so they now will serve crap and people will happily pay more for it.

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

I can guarantee the problem is executive meddling, not the random black person you want to get mad at.

@notlegitkoolaid4911

2 ай бұрын

@@A_A610ok calling him racist is a good response? Grow up he said way more than that

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

@@notlegitkoolaid4911 Too many people pinning issues on "DEI hires" as the easy (and racist) scapegoat for the issues at the parks, rather than the corporate meddling keeping Imagineering under their creative control when they're not the creative ones. Reading further through, it does seem to eventually lead back up to placing blame on executives where it very much belongs, so I will retract my previous comment because it it does not apply here as I previously thought.

@michaelmason6683

2 ай бұрын

​@@A_A610do you think race played any part on who worked on this project?

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelmason6683 Like I said, the creative teams they went with make for convenient scapegoats to take the heat off of the corporate executives tying them down with too much interference. The problem was not that black people were involved in the creative process (or lack thereof), it's that the Board of Directors was too involved in it. Compare this to the work they're wrapping up for Tokyo, a resort owned by another company that routinely gives a lot more creative and financial freedom to Disney for their additions. Tokyo looks and feels a lot more like what Disney should be, rather than the constant corner cutting from executives you get in the US.

Soon to be lazily re-skinned as “Tiana’s Bayou Adventure with Figment”

Boring....to much dead space....storyline???? Not interested in waiting 4 or more hours for this. No thanks.

@gwenmloveskpopandmore

2 ай бұрын

They have better lighting and more music though

They Smurfed it. Remember what Kings Island did to Enchanted Voyage when they re-skined it to the Smurfs.

@akcalo

2 ай бұрын

Now im curious ! Imma go search that!

Splash mountain is a CLASSIC!

I vote Splash.

@asherandkr8628

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

@asherandkr8628

2 ай бұрын

I miss splash it looks like crap now

Splash Mountain had so many more animatronics and it wasn't as dark as this one. This one doesn't even have a real story to it. Why didn't they make it more about the story....The princess and the frog? I loved the story in Splash and I think it's sickening the Disney people did not put it out there first to see how the public would react before converting our wonderful Splash Mountain to Tiana's Chia Pet. It also appears to be much louder. Why is she screaming when she talks...ugh! I don't think this one is going to make a hit and I have a feeling Disney is going to feel the pinch of this costly mistake. I hope one day they own up to their mistake and put Splash back.

@Equilibrium-pt7xj

2 ай бұрын

It’s dark because they had nothing to fill the space with, it’s the only way they could make it even remotely work in this terrible manner.

@JSwag_Reviews

2 ай бұрын

Disneyland one had the most inconsistent lighting though it was really dark or to bright at times. As much of a gem as it is.

@Gael-qk5gw

2 ай бұрын

@@JSwag_ReviewsI think the Disneyland one could be better since it doesn’t really have that much space to fill in like magic kingdoms. It also isn’t as bright and colorful as this one, but I’m still wondering how that one is going to be since the layout is really different

R.I.P. Splash Mountain, you will be missed.😢

Okay first thought. They need to get rid of the Tiana video in the cave. It looks like something out of CoComelon! Yikes. But other then that I think it looks amazing. I can't wait to ride the Disneyland version which will probably be a little tighter as the track is shorter. Love the colors, the music and especially the cuban rythem during the underground cave sequence. All they have to do is take the CoComelon video out and just use more of the wonderful fireflies and they'd get an A from me. As it is it gets a B+. I'm sure I'll give it an A once I ride it. I love that they took the scenery into the night time by the way. Dark spaces give you a chance to focus on the show scenes. I love the new song from what can be heard. Reminds me of a Shermans Brothers song written for one of the parks birthday parades. Great job Disney folks! Now quit messing with Pirates and please fix the Disneyland version of Winnie the Pooh. :) PS The grand finale looks beautiful. The film aspects don't translate well on video I'm hoping it's different live.

I know I’m in the majority here when I say, this isn’t it. The 3D animation towards the end. It’s basically saying we didn’t have the animators to make it 2D (the way it was hand drawn originally). Lack luster. Splash Mountain had more life and sounds and fun.

@gwenmloveskpopandmore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but I did like when we get shrunk and seeing the fireflies

Yea. Let’s show how better the old ride was by showing it side by side

Can you guys do a better comparison where the Splash Mountain POV isn’t from the attraction’s dying days? Don’t get me wrong, Splash still looks way better even here, but it would be much more fair to use a video from at least 5-10 years ago when it was operating at a level much closer to how it was intended. That way, we can have a much more accurate picture of the difference between these two attractions.

@timetraveler9272

2 ай бұрын

True, this deserves more likes

@Equilibrium-pt7xj

2 ай бұрын

That’s what Disney hopes it’ll be compared to. If people go watch the 1992 8mm video on KZread people will weep at the thought of what they destroyed.

@JRH-1007

2 ай бұрын

@@Equilibrium-pt7xj I have watched it before and rewatched it today. You couldn’t be more right. If there’s a more soul crushingly depressing comparison in Disney history, I don’t know what that could be.

@uykarl

2 ай бұрын

Splash mountain in tokyo is more well maintained than both ones in america. Tokyo Splash mountain looks more like disneyland splash mountain in 1989 than the current one at present.

@MrDmcty1

2 ай бұрын

well why, Splash Mountain needed TLC for so many years, the ride became dull, the animatronics always broken, after watching this side by side, the show scenes are almost all in the same places. people just love to complain. Tianas bayou, is in great shape.

I still think they missed the opportunity to put in Brer Rabbit, fox, and bear as some of the animal band friends

The theme / context is very cringe but seeing this made me realize Splash needed a flair upgrade, these animatronics show how dated the hardware in Splash was but I would prefer the old themes and characters and songs, just update stuff.

@goaliegeorge

2 ай бұрын

This was my thinking. A refresh of Splash. But the new ride is boring. Glad I watched it here and save the time in line! Haha.

Tiana’s Bayou really sticks out like a sore thumb in the middle of Frontierland. It may have been a little bit of bayou before with Splash, but whoever was a part of the theming got it completely wrong for our Magic Kingdom. I’m sure it will look great in New Orleans Square. Ours should have been themed differently or just left as is.

I can't belive Dr Faciller was not put in the ride to add some suspense and friends on the other side could've gave it that and from what i saw is Naveen not in the ride?

@TheatreFanatic1982

2 ай бұрын

Prince Naveen does show up once, but it is very quick, though. Prince Naveen appears right behind Tiana in the celebration scene where they sing the song Special Spice. I really hope that helps you out! 😊

@jennylewin7761

2 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊 gonna watch it again, see if I can spot him 😊

@Allie_Caan

2 ай бұрын

They absolutely ruined the lift to the big drop

@lucaslgswitch3577

2 ай бұрын

The fact you didn't spot Naveen on your first watch is telling. Just look at the old concept art showing Tiana and Naveen in a canoe, it would've fit perfectly in the first part before you meet Louis :(

Pissed all that money, time, and resources away to make an inferior attraction. Disney isn't going anywhere, but I do hope Epic Universe gives Universal a little more market share in the Orlando region and eats into Disney some. Disney World still has all that land though, which will always be an ace up their sleeve.

I will say it looks beautiful at night and I love the music. There are zero stakes or danger in the story (which is collecting players for the band in the finale scene?) but in the places they have groupings of animatronics they look great. I think Splash mountain also had some dead spaces in it and in retrospect they were recycling animatronics from America Sings so they had a ton they could just stick in every nook and cranny. My favorite detail is after the drop, the crickets are chirping in rhythm with the song. So it's literally just an elaborate musical cruise, which is fine if you think about it as the equivalent of if they made Country Bear Jamboree a ride, it would basically be this, but with New Orleans music and newer characters.

@BlueSnailProductions

2 ай бұрын

In fairness to Splash, Magic Kingdom’s version didn’t recycle any animatronics from America Sings. WDW’s animatronics were copies of the original America Sings animatronics at DL’s Splash.

@gamingunboxed2463

2 ай бұрын

Well I agree that splash mountain had dead spaces I feel that they helped build tension

Just rode this ride today and it was FANTASTIC !!!

Iger said it. "BORING".

@thebiggrouch

2 ай бұрын

That's what he gets for wanting it to change

Tiana's Hobby Lobby Mountain < Splash Mountain

One of the parks should've kept the original.

@jamesmaynard3615

2 ай бұрын

Tokyo is keeping theirs

@disneyinuyamon

2 ай бұрын

Thank god Japan is keeping their splash mountain

@princesspikachu3915

2 ай бұрын

Tokyo ride through is so beautiful I cried happy tears for their Splash Mountain. Here I just cry tears of sadness and disappointment…

My only issue with the ride is the lack of an Antagonist. Which Splash did pretty well especially with the build up for the drop. If we would of had the Dr and his iconic song for the drop. All could of been redeemed. Big oof on that one. Here is hoping someday they bring him back... Other than that. There is some nice set work and animatronics.

@gwenmloveskpopandmore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah plus we get to shrink

I hate to say this, but the Bayou Adventure is a huge upgrade. I NEVER thought I would say this. Splash Mountain, as much as I love this ride, doesn't give me the classic old-school Disney animatronics as this newer one. Also, the lighting is much better in the newer one. The animatronics are more fluid as well. A definate improvement. Splash Mountain feels more like a thrill ride, while Bayou Adventure feels more like an actual Disney ride. Well done, Disney Imagineers!

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

Except Splash Mountain was originally built as a thrill ride, and stripping away the thrilling elements makes it feel like it has no idea what it's trying to be.

There’s no conflict or suspense in the new one.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: Excellent decorations, good lighting, amazing animatronics. Splash Mountain: Better story, has tension to the ride, story easy to understand, scary, and fun. -----Overall Ratings---- Tiana’s Bayou Rating: 6/10 Good decorations, doesn’t have a good understandable story. Splash Mountain Rating: 9/10 Theming is overall nice, story easy to understand, has tension.

@Incomudro1963

2 ай бұрын

It's kind of like Star Wars a New Hope vs Rise of Skywalker. New Hope has dated special effects, sure... But which film actually works better?

Its so....dark. needs more light or something

@Equilibrium-pt7xj

2 ай бұрын

That would mean revealing how truly inadequate it is. The darkness is to hide the terrible job they did.

@Chris-B-Interactive

2 ай бұрын

That’s honestly probably more of a camera issue

Splash Mountain was soooo much better it looks like, its a shame I won't get to ride this again in its original form, hopefully they can make this new version much better

@flyingfish7787

2 ай бұрын

Japan is fighting back against Disney to preserve their splash mountain. Wish you get to ride it.

At 1:10 why didn't they just go with an instrumental version of the song? It is kind of weird having Tiana singing that when there are no animatronics around. Splash Mountain had only instrumental music playing until going down the first drop and entering in where animatronics where singing. Feels weird.

@timetraveler9272

2 ай бұрын

Because disney doesn't know how to make soundtracks anymore

@gwenmloveskpopandmore

2 ай бұрын

@@timetraveler9272yeah although they did make an exclusive song for the ride though

@alpyki2588

2 ай бұрын

It also doesn't make sense narratively. They used the lyric "people around here think I'm crazy but I don't care." Isn't this supposed to be *after* the movie, when she's a successful entrepreneur? What's "almost there" about this? Did something happen in that 1 year? They couldn't even be bothered to change the lyric to something that fit.

@tiamystic

2 ай бұрын

@@alpyki2588oh damn you’re right lmfaooooooo they messed this up

Splash Mountain was my favorite ride at Magic Kingdom, and when I heard the news that it was gonna be replaced by a PATF reimagining, I was sad but at the same time excited because I love the movie, characters and especially, the songs. Words cannot describe how disappointed I am with the final product. Sure, some of the animatronics are beautiful works of art and engineering, the nighttime lightning outside the ride looks gorgeous, and the finale is amazing. But the rest of the ride? It's just so dull, unimaginative and boring...the "story" is mostly a copy and paste throughout the whole ride where scene after scene you recruit animals for the party, there are a ton of empty lifeless hallways with almost nothing going on, there is little to no sense of buildup or excitement as you approach the final drop, and for me the worst part of it all, is they somehow managed to implement some of the songs from the movie in such a lazy, nonsensical way. Like, if you're going to commit on creating a new original story happening *after* the events of the first movie, why the hell is "Going down the bayou" playing, if Ray sings that song?? Didn't Ray die and reincarnate as a star in the movie? And also, why is "Dig a little deeper" playing? In what context does the song work for the ride? Did they even bother to see the movie and the message behind the song? The ride would've worked way better as a retelling of the movie. There was plenty of space to focus on all the major scenes of the movie, they could have used the amazing songs throughout the ride, and just imagine the final buildup with Tiana facing off against Dr Facilier as "Friends from the other side" plays before the big drop? And even if they didn't want to do a retelling and rather focus on a fresh new story, there was so much wasted potential with this ride. I'm not bashing the Imagineers, I'm sure they did their absolute best to work with what they got, but they probably faced a lot of problems with the executives and the common budget cuts Disney has been recently doing...like how the original ride concept was supposed to have a big beautiful tree on top of the mountain with Mama Odie's boat on top. Overall, Disney once again leaves a lot to be desired...I truly hope that when Epic Universe opens, they get a big wake up call, and start doing/planning/making more amazing stuff like how Oriental Land Company does with the Tokyo Disneyland/Disneysea resort

I’m so sorry but it’s the lack of animatronics! I would rather have 100 beloved older animatronics that have way more personality than 20 brand new animatronics. The Tiana ones say bland catch phrases! “Look at this band! Hallelujah! They can sure play! Let’s add them to the band” nothing exciting…… it’s a shame really. The story line is not good either! Shrinking to a frog?! And the drop isn’t even scary at all.

I won't wait for it and certainly won't pay for a lightning lane. I'll only ride if it's a walk on and there's nothing else to do.

Splash Mountain is still better. What a waste.

All the bells and whistles of modern technology are nothing without a good story. Splash Mountain the easy winner.

Change for change sake is never good. If ur going to change something it better be for the better. Tiana looks OK. Its not bad. However when put into context, that is, you had a successful ride that was beloved and you decide to spend hundreds of millions to change what wasn't broken, then it becomes lackluster at best. Disney should be moving ahead not sideways.

What an epic fail by Disney. What are we searching high and low for? The story is incredibly boring. This ride retheming feels very forced. Not that it would happen, but Disney would profit by changing this back to splash.

I am sure it will be “ok”, but it looks like a cheap and worse copy of the original. The original had a much more theme and catchy tune. They should have left Splash Mountain alone. In at least ONE of the parks anyways.

They got the new ride from Temu

Thank you for sharing and especially showing the side by side comparison. I was sad to see Splash go but also excited to see how Disney would bring this new theming to life. We love Princess and a Frog (watched it for the 1st time in a theater in Shreveport, LA). I was raised in the South and have lived in the South most of my life. We lived in LA for almost 10 yrs and have visited New Orleans many times (it's one of my favorite non-Disney places to visit). The new ride does captiure some of the essence of what I love about New Orleans. I agree that there are several spots that are underwhelming. I love things about Navi River Journey, and there's elements of that peaceful calmness and ambiance here, but it's also a bit boring for this ride. The animatronics are quite impressive, but I do miss so many of the old animals that would have 100% fit the Bayou theme and wish they had been updated/repurposed. My favorite part of the retheming is the underground scenes and the "magic" that takes us there. The ending has some beautiful and fun elements but again, I miss the Riverboat and everyone knows New Orleans is famous for the Riverboats...it should have been updated and repurposed somewhere even if they didn't use the same animatronics. These are my opinions, and I know not everyone agrees, but that's okay.

@gwenmloveskpopandmore

2 ай бұрын

Finally someone who said the ride isn’t boring

"Look how they massacred my boy" - Don Vito Corleone

I’m sobbing in tears, we lost a once in a lifetime masterpiece of art, music, lovable characters, and charm for this disaster.

It looks like Tiana's Bayou Adventure cares more about the music than the theme.

Seeing a lot of "at least it's" and "it's not that bad" and "it could be worse." Really, what does that tell you? It's a bad replacement. Stop pretending to be nice about it.

They DEI'd one of their best rides

We need more rides like The Little Mermaid where it’s a ride going through the movie’s story using the songs, which they could have done here. Just imagine Dr. Facilier singing “Are ya ready!?” as you are going up to the drop.

they should have let the imagineers from tokyo build it

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

Same talent pool, OLC just gives Imagineering more creative freedom than the Disney executives do for the US parks.

@jacov127

2 ай бұрын

@@A_A610 maybe same talent pool, but Japan doesn't have to hire only DEI People to do the job! The Level of Creativity, Budget and Worksmanship of OLC speaks for itself, Tokyo is superior now in any way.

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

@@jacov127 My point being the fatal flaw of this overhaul was that it was mandated by the corporate executives who tied the creative team's hands with their micromanaging and corner cutting, not that black people were on the creative team.

@jacov127

2 ай бұрын

@@A_A610 k, so you think the lack of storytelling was mandated by executives

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

@@jacov127 I think the executives tied their hands too much and they had to make do with what they were given/allowed to do (apparently one of the big restrictions was not to use any voodoo elements...which basically defeats the entire point of a PatF retheme). In the US parks, they're much more under corporate's thumb than they are with the Tokyo parks where OLC gives them more creative and financial freedom. See also: 1998 New Tomorrowland (especially Rocket Rods), DCA 1.0 (especially Superstar Limo)

That ending scene in Tianna is huge! Wow - I hope Disneylands opens before our next trip.

What the heck is the storyline ?? I’m the speacisl spice that had to get to the party?? How lame !😒

John Lassiter. Nothing is the same since he left

Just read through a bunch of the comments and I’m quite surprised that no one is pointing out the fact that we inexplicably hear Ray performing “Take You All The Way/Goin’ Down The Bayou”. Doesn’t this take place AFTER the movie?!

@jediconnor9349

2 ай бұрын

Some sequels bring back songs from the original, but I do think they could have added an extra new song or two.

Yikes. I’m a Princess and the Frog stan and I knew this wouldn’t deliver. The Splash ride skeleton just does not accommodate other IP. The original film has such an emotional journey, which is why it hurts that this falls completely flat. This was just a really bad idea, period. We deserved an original ride.

I don’t mind about changing attractions I just want to see the movie song of the south just make me happy

Where the fuck is the fancy “mist” they kept yapping about at D23!?

@jediconnor9349

2 ай бұрын

I think it’s right at the end of the big drop.

I don't unstand the story... and no princess in a princess story? If it's after the movie, why is Ray singing?

It's definitely a downgrade, like most new Disney rides. Not terrible but very lackluster 😞

Superstar Limo built in 2001 still remains the worst ride-through attraction in Disney history. But Tiana's is giving it a run for its money. Also, the new Peter Pan ride at DisneySea in Tokyo is nothing but projected images on widescreens. SMH.

@JRH-1007

2 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. For me, the only things keeping this firmly above Superstar Limo are the A-1000’s, some of the music and the fact that nothing can be quite so aesthetically abhorrent as Superstar Limo. Outside of those key areas, it’s a dumpster fire top to bottom, especially when you consider what it replaced and why. As bad as Superstar Limo was, Michael Eisner commissioning an attraction for a cheap, self-indulgent laugh at the entertainment industry is much easier to forgive than what was essentially a book burning for Splash Mountain and anything remotely connected to it.

I love Tiana and the princess and the frog movie, but what were they thinking when putting this ride together. The animatronics are really well done and the colors are nice, but it feels like it’s lacking. Splash Mountain was so much more interesting and entertaining.

@Incomudro1963

2 ай бұрын

For sure. They did Princess and the Frog a severe disservice with this ride. The movie had so many excellent elements that would have lent themselves to the ride spectacularly. Where are they?

I wish Dr. Facilier was present in the ride to introduce a sense of jeopardy. I miss the vultures. "We'll show you a laughing place!"

4:47 I had a feeling they were gonna tribute splash mountain in a way.

my guess is, due to when this ride was originally announced and designed, it was probably intended to be a story more about empowering black women than showing highligts of the original princes and the frog story

And my family said I was being dramatic saying this will never beat splash, I can't wait for them to ride it and feel guilty for making fun of me

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

The waters got SO muddied with political and racial discourse, which made it hard to raise valid points without a bunch of mudslinging. Now that it's said and done, it's much easier to objectively say the ride is terrible.

I agree that the storytelling in the new version seems less coherent and it doesn't feel like there is any kind of true suspense. But to be honest, I think the new version look so much more beautiful and atmospheric. There are a bunch of impressive effects and the animatronics are such an upgrade. The old ones always gave me the creeps. And honestly, I don't go to rides for a story but because they have impressive sights to see etc. and I think Tiana delivers this much better. Idk why everyone is on about saying the new one is dark and empty, because I think Splash seemed much more of those things to me when riding it. I'm honestly excited for this one!

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

The issue is that those story elements worked in Splash Mountain's favor to make the final drop much more effective (and makes narrative sense in the story). This just randomly has the final drop appear out of nowhere for no real reason other than the fact it was there before. Since it's not incorporated into the story in any meaningful way, it lacks the same suspense and excitement of the original, which for me is the biggest deal breaker of the retheme. The story and ride for Splash went together like peanut butter and jelly: simple, but did its job effectively. This feels like peanut butter and ham: the individual ingredients aren't bad on their own, but they clearly do not work well together.

Look what they did to you @laughingplace. Thats no laughing place!

Omg this is freaking horrible 😢. They totally messed it up by changing it. Splash mountain had sucha great story set up and mead you feel like things were happening . Tiana just feels like random ideas thrown at you to be like here it is. Bad story ride for sure 😢

Trust me, this ride won’t be here for long.

Great side by side! Thanks for this

Just look at how they massacred my boy. Looks like such a boring and lifeless ride…

So did they ever mention it’s a salt dome? Why are we “outside” seeing mushrooms and fireflies inside a salt dome that’s a food co-op?

The most telling detail is how often the camera on the Splash Mountain side looks upward and to the sides. That's because there was so much more to see on Splash Mountain.

Everyone keeps commenting, omg its not themed to the movie. Well yes thats correct, its a new story with the princess and the frog characters. Do your research before you comment. ugh...

@A_A610

2 ай бұрын

Still not an excuse to come up with a story this half-baked.

@Incomudro1963

2 ай бұрын

Not using the movie was a STUPID idea. The film is very good, and offered so many great things that could have been incorporated into this ride. Particularly Dr. Facilier. Instead we get an employee owned food conglomerate. Why???

@wil.d_sage

2 ай бұрын

@@Incomudro1963employee owned conglomerate with Tiana’s name on it 😂

The houses are no longer there but the tree is still there amazing reference from splash mountain as shown on 1:36.

@MickeySightings

2 ай бұрын

They could have kept the houses.

@alpyki2588

2 ай бұрын

​@@MickeySightingsMy first thoughts exactly. If you're journeying through a salt mine, why not keep traces of habitation and retheme them? Br'er Bear's house for instance. Instead its the most barren and bland fantasy garden I've seen.

@jediconnor9349

2 ай бұрын

@@alpyki2588Or at least paint it or something.😄

Splash Mountain was so much better!