Wow! This was a great video. Showing how to transform the thumb throttle to a twist throttle is excellent. I also got to see your WD-40 grip removal trick too. Loved the video. So informative.

I think the reason you like that twist throttle so much is shown in your video. That Kawasaki set right there. Honestly when I first started riding a Ebike, I really thought that was the only way to go along with a front brake on the right hand side. But after a little while I realized I really never use the throttle, or should say very very rarely. But if I were, that right hand twist sure comes natural.

Right hand twist throttles forever!😎

Bruv. Use an air compressor to take the grips off.

I think this video was a great choice Citizen. It will probably be very helpful for a lot of your subscribers. I agree wholeheartedly that twist grip is the way to go. After over 50 years on motorcycles this old dog isn't ready for any new tricks trying to remember where the throttle is 🤠

@davidfuller764

8 ай бұрын

Thank you yes, I completely agree. Muscle memory I guess they call it.

I really like your channel. I don't have an electric bike yet, but will eventually. Your channel is like going to eBike school. Tks!

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

Glad you're finding them helpful!!

@Tbr7moto

Жыл бұрын

You got a electric bike yet?

thanks!! great video, you saved me some bucks!

i had a thumb throttle on my midrive changed it out for a twist but installed it still on leftside i figure i can control power better .Good find for right hand throttle nice but no bar end mirror have to cut grip

Great video, I too love the twist throttle on the right. I am looking at a Troxus with a thumb throttle on the left, only problem is, I don't have a left hand so that's a no-go for me. Can you please post a link If available, to this slender twist throttle! By the way I dropped in on Wired Ebikes today in Illinois, and actually got to check out the cruiser model, what a beast of a bike. It is also in the running for my next bike, thanks to you! Luckily for me it has a right twist throttle! 👍

In my case: the Voilamart twist throttle is huge! It's a normal size grip if not bigger but it then has a big battery meter guage on the inside of it (bright blue and easy to see, I want to try and separate it from the throttle and do a custom build into the front luggage rack with a lock box. Built in 3 brightness headlight, 50,000 mAh solar battery for it. Cell phone holder, MP3 unit etc) so it sticks out (or sticks in) covering so much of the handlebar that I can't shift it. Right now I'm pretty much just using the front shifter because I have to let go of the right side and reach under to get to the rear shifter. Yesterday the ebike power take off didn't go well when I tried to pedal across the street and I lost enough teeth on the cassette to render it useless and I must switch it out.

I did this but the other way around. been having nerve issues in my right hand and even short ride would mess with me so I switched out my right throttle for an universal thumb throttle to the left. I have yet to find a left handed twist throttle or I would had used one instead but the thumb throttle works for now. now I had to splice the wires in my case not the weather proof pin connect.

Hi, thanks for you video. Where did you plug the twist throttle to?

My ebike has this grip you installed, with the time I've used it ,it is very easy, if you're like me and constantly searching for a decent grip then accidentally twisting the throttle and get that sudden unintentional throttle up. if they made the static part longer where my hand would fit comfortably making the throttle part shorter It'd be perfect, I've got skinny but large hands.

I would be interested in upgrading my hurley mini swell to a 2 system awd bike. Can you recommend patrs list and where to buy? Currently stock 500w 48v. Thanks for any help!

“I’m not a bike guy” (1000 bikes in the background) 😂

Good useful content, thanks! I would not like a thumb throttle on the left, and realize most handlebars don't have room for a shifter and thumb throttle on the right, especially with a trigger shifter like you have there. I tried the thumb throttle and then went to a right-hand twist throttle, and while I prefer it in terms of grip and comfort, I've had several instances where the bike started to tip while dismounting and the throttle twisted causing the bike to accelerate and my grip to twist the throttle even more until it reached full throttle and the only way to stop the the situation was to let go of the bike. I do have a thumb throttle 'on-off' switch on the throttle and pretty much remember to turn it off whenever stopped but not always. As such, and for safety reasons I might go back to a thumb throttle on the right. In order to have enough room for either a twist or thumb throttle I replaced a similar shifter you have there with the Shimano SL-TX30 thumb shifters which are compact durable and inexpensive. I also like just being able to down-shift by moving the lever rather than having to push trigger levers, and a push-button to up-shift.

@oOImpulseOo

Жыл бұрын

Let go of that throttle!!! Trying to save it only makes it worse. Commonly known as whiskey throttle. Funny on a youtube video. Not so much when it happens to you.

@jackoneil3933

Жыл бұрын

@@oOImpulseOo A bit different on a motorcycle as it's typically out of gear or off when stopped.

@oOImpulseOo

Жыл бұрын

@@jackoneil3933 Tell that to this girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z2uuxrdmk8zekqQ.html

KOOL!! Day Mak Max bikes have the short fenders!! They r just for show !! My Daymak Max S has the little fenders!!

Hi mate i am thinking of changeing my bat cycle fat tyre bike to electric i found a kit on fleabay but it says what dropout size does that mean to the motor or does it mean the wheel droputby the way going to go for rear if you asks lol if you can hell it be much appriciate

I have a rear hub Bafang motor “RM GOFO 750. D” The julet connection was perfect. As a test I just connected the throttle just to see if it worked and it did not. Do you have any idea why I can’t swap out my thumb throttle with a half twist? Something tells me that the pins in the julet connector are not correct to the half twist throttle. Is there a throttle out there that would work as plug and play with my motor type?

are there any full twist slim options, I made the mistake of buying the throttle first before doing research, I actually have the same shifter as you do.

What lights do you have on your Citizen bike? I bought a kit that has the light/horn + tail/turn signal. The sm-2y connector that comes to connect the kit to the power of my controller is not compatible with the one on the controller (not sure the name for that connector). SO i need to swap either the sm-2y connector (seems hard to find) or the other one to fit the controller. But since I don't know the name of it I don't know how to find it. I am not favoring hard wiring the kit. What do you suggest? I knew as soon as I posted this I would run across the plug. Seems the light connector for the Voilamart ebike controller is a DJ706a. I likely will clip the sm-2y connector off the kit for the light and add the DJ706a to the wire harness. I really want to keep my kit compatible with most light systems. But since I don't know them very well I don't know what light systems normally come with. Main reason I am asking this question.

Haha, to each his own. I like thumb throttle and put a clip on attachment to my AR X-Class twist throttle. However, I would not like a left handed throttle period. Also, I've been having so many flats with my original tires that I just installed a set of Shinko 244's. Noticed a big drop in range. They knock off a good 30% of range off my battery. Original tires weigh about 2.5 pounds these Shinko's weigh 5.8 pounds. Been studying rotational weight vs static weight and learning the hard way how this affects range and acceleration. Looking into the Huntsman Vee tires now. they weigh a pound less than the Shinko's at 4.88 but still twice the weight of originals and twice the price of the Shinko's. Not sure if I want to upgrade to a second battery yet. Might need to upgrade to a bigger hub motor and go 60 or 72 volt to handle these Shinko's. It's been a fun learning experience either way.

@pattyedzards8587

Жыл бұрын

Was wondering what clip on thumb throttle you used?

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

Wow 30% drop in range is a lot but I guess if you're using straight up motorcycle tires that seems reasonable. Did you ever try any tire liners?

@bernlitzner2739

Жыл бұрын

I just did the same thing on my EMX-Extreme. It wasn't because of flats, I wanted a more aggressive tread for dirt and mud trails. I haven't done a range test yet to see how much off a drop, but since the majority of the bikes usage is trail riding...I should be OK. The EMX Extreme has a huge battery. (60 volt 20ah...newer ones are 60v 23.4ah). I loved how the Shinko's handled in the dirt and mud.

@Campfussell

Жыл бұрын

@@bernlitzner2739 Oh man, you should be good with 60 volts. Would love to upgrade my AR to 60. I don't do much dirt riding, but heck these Shinkos handle better on the road than the originals did.

Left Thumb throttle vs Right half twist throttle is such a divisive topic! Omar from Top5ebikes: I prefer the left thumb throttle because (a) I'm left-handed and bc IMO twist throttles have a higher likelihood of causing an accidental use of the throttle (inadvertently pull of throttle).

Would it be ok to link that half twist throttle to us? I want to change out the Aventus thumb throttle. Gracias amigo!

Love the video on how to switch from one to the other but I’m more of a thumb throttle but yes on the left side would annoy the shit out of me 🤣🤣

Compressed air works to take off handles too

I’m thinking the throttle should be on the left so the rear brake can be feathered with the right while wheelying…. How is the 24 Wired bike set up? I should be receiving my Freedom in the next few weeks.

One thing I'd say is if the throttle doesn't work.. most likely the new throttle you bought had the positive/negative/signal wire in different spots which is unfortunate because you'll need to cut off the connector and make a new one

Do you know how to take off the metal thing that secures the twist throttle off the inside of my handlebars

Thanks

Nice video, I went the other way. I hate 1/2 twist and like thumb personally better. I'm old with not a good grip so twist is not easy to maintain.

I have an X-treme Baja with a thumb throttle that does not seem to work. I have checked the plug and the wires and they seem ok. There is an outer casing in a spot that does not unplug that seems a little indented but no breaks in the wiring is evident. I can't figure out why it is not working. Do you have any experience with X-treme Ebikes?

Funny thing about throttles, in the Rad FB group everybody wants to swap the half twist for a thumb throttle, me included. In the Sondors group they want to swap the thumb for a twist throttle.

Just replaced the twist throttle on my cyrusher 690 in order to change to a better set of grips.

What if the thumb throttle is connected to the monitor on the left side? The monitor and the throttle is like a one piece hub. I really want to change it to right side twist throttle. Or even right thide thumb would be okay. I don't know why left is standard, it's so annoying.

“I’m not a bike guy” The 30 bikes in the background

may i have the link to where you got your throttle

Another great video thank you. I've been searching for an ebike to ride some single track and also ride on paved roads. I like the power of Ariel Kepler , but that bike looks like it won't be good on dirt trails. What's your opinion on dual purpose bike? thank you

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

I think it's whatever you think you'll be most comfortable on. A big fat tire bike like the Kepler probably wouldn't be ideal on single track but I guess depends on how aggressive you will be.

@jimmyjames8736

Жыл бұрын

If rough singletrack performance is a priority then a dual suspension mid drive is the way to go. If you just mean average dirt trails then a hub motor hardtail fattie like a Kepler will do real well. If you check out Aventon Aventure vids here on KZread you can find some trail rides. A Kepler would have same overall capability but with more power and speed than Aventon when riding offroad.

@gustavobarbero9123

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjames8736 Thank you for responding. I like that Kepler will throttle to 30 + MPH , I'm 5'8, the bike looks like a big road cruiser. I want to find something with that throttle power but somewhat more spottier. Any thoughts , please send them .

@jimmyjames8736

Жыл бұрын

@@gustavobarbero9123 If you don't like the looks of a Kepler then your best option may be to look at a 20 inch fat tire bike like an Ariel Rider X-class 52v. It is fast like a Kepler and would probably fit a 5'8" person very comfortably. Most of the bikes with a 1000 watt hub are 20 inch wheel bikes. Very few 26x4 tire bikes with the 1000 watt hub and none anywhere near good deal price of Kepler. A Quietkat Ranger with the 1000 watt hub option is around $3600 even though it comes with a smaller 48v battery. And the $3600 Ranger doesn't even include hydraulic brakes. Ariel Rider is hard to beat when you look at performance vs cost. But another company that makes some very high performance options is Fabulous.

@gustavobarbero9123

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjames8736 great advise, thank you.

Thank you for the video. I want to replace it with this throttle, too. I want a site where I can buy throttle.

Where do you find that throttle, that's what I want for my bike but it has a four pin connection and I need a 3 PM so this isn't really helping me out much

What company did you get the throttle from?

Hello CitizenCycle, I bought this throttle kit for my Aventon Aventure 2 but I noticed that the cable is a female so female to female wouldn't work. I saw on another of your videos you did add a twist throttle on an Aventon you have because your wife doesn't like thumb throttles. I believe this bike used the thumb throttle on the left for your front drive motor. Can you tell me what twist throttle will work for my Aventon A2 please?

I installing the new twist throttle it comes with a Female plug not a male one. Had to order a cable with male plugs on both ends to compensate for the problem. Got the twist throttle on eBay from china.

Is it possible to add a throttle to the class 2 mid-drives which are not manufactured with a throttle?

@Altema22

Жыл бұрын

Only if the manufacturer made provision for a throttle. Many mid-drives have have no throttle input, so it's best to check with the company that made it.

That's why I like fabulous ebikes tell them what you want and they pretty much make it happen. Custom touch 😀 and iam that wierd guy I can't stand that half twist if it was like a motorcycle I would use it .I love my thumb throttle 🙂

Brian you forgot the tip on how get around the throttle trigger shifter interference even when using the newer throttle design.

Does this work on a e-scooter

Yeah I did all the above but when I plugged in the round yellow plug the display said error an new twist grip would not work I thought your video was going to explain how to deal with that but NO!!!

For me, the twist throttle is not an option. I have elbow problems that, in turn, limits my ability to grip and twist. The thumb throttle solves that issue and more so because my right arm is more problematic than the left. Just thought I'd share that Great video and content!

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

Yep everybody has different needs, Thanks for checking out the video though 😁

Have you ever ridden the Hyperscorpion? I am enjoying mine.

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I have not tried the hyperscorpion

Hi, I have the exact same gas, but the piece inside does not hold the gas inside. I can't screw it up. the screw just turns and doesn't hold it. Did I missed something?

area 13 said there sending you a blackbird in the live stream. is it true?

would love and tried to do but E22 was showing on computer and it didn't work.??????WHY

I don't think you would want a twist throttle on a bike with very swept cruiser bars like the EBC bikes, since it would feel awkward. Thanks for the vids !

You said you can't use bar end mirrors but couldn't you just graft a stud with the same thread pitch as the set screw onto a grip mirror?

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

you can use bar end mirrors on this bike not problem, i have one on there.

I'm doing the opposite on my Radrunner Plus. I have to move my hand over to move the throttle and gonna put a thumb throttle on it so I can just hit it with my thumb without moving my hand. lol

@key39075

Жыл бұрын

This and second reason for choosing thumb throttle is accidentally activating twist throttle when I'm not on the bike is really not fun.

@jeffmpvd7689

Жыл бұрын

I did the same thing on my Rad Mission. Added a 3D printed Thumb attachment on the twist throttle. Without lifting my hand I can extend my thumb to throttle!

😀 Brian, you do look like a Brian, I never would have guessed it... My Friend's new ride from Aventon is a LH thumb throttle, the bike she had to return was RH twist, the bike she is trading up from is the Townie, it's a peddle-assist only, it was the most $$$ only because the brand is Trek, not worth the money IMHO. cheers,

I am trying to find a twist throttle for my Aventon Aventure, Can’t find one like this anywhere. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks!

@CitizenCycle925

Жыл бұрын

For sale on Cyrusher website but very overpriced

@jkarasik9931

Жыл бұрын

@@CitizenCycle925 I saw that. Too much for me. I was looking all day and couldn’t find anything

@bloodmoon-ronin

Жыл бұрын

@@CitizenCycle925 hey you know that metal piece that goes inside handlebar for the Cyrusher throttle? What is that piece called? I’ve been trying to get it out (unsuccessfully) and I also need one for my new handlebar

twist and shout

lol that "fat" twist throttle you showed was a half twist throttle. you're supposed to use a half twist compatible grip with it and it would have fit on your setup.

Thumb throttle is good for anyone with Wrist issues

Disagree with you totally on Thumb Throttle. FIRST is safety for those who are used to riding a normal bicycle and grabbing the grips it’s just natural since being a kid. FULL THROTTLE are dangerous for first time users, HALF TWIST THROTTLE are better if you are purchasing a ebike. And I like the option to Thumb Throttle on the left and Shifting Gears on the right.😎 Good information for folks looking for change.

Thanks, I'm changing my Lectric twist throttle for a thumb when I change the bars. Haha. Seriously. Quick response, less effort.

I like the thumb throttle the best. Just my 2 cents.

You should use a watch that matches that bracelet

@CitizenCycle925

11 ай бұрын

yes, in a perfect world :)

@keepitthoro6768

11 ай бұрын

@@CitizenCycle925 in a perfect world?!? No thats just stupid,you act like I said your bike should fly

I prefer the thumb throttle tbh idk why

They should make left side shifter 8-10 speed for 1x user lol

I take it they don't have a bespoken division like Bentley or Rolls-Royce😅

Mine is green 5 pin wtf, nothing has a green 5 pin man.

I guess if you came from the motorcycle side it would be an annoyance with the thumb throttle. I actually like them myself.

well i disagree i think a thumb throttle is far better

The thumb throttle is not where it's at! Instead, I'd rather have click settings on the twist grip to change the speed setting of the bike! If you can vary that setting more easily, there's very little reason for the thumb throttle except when navigating challenging trail features.

A DROP OF WATER. UNDER GRIP... YOU GOT THE ONLY THROTTLE WITH THE. SAME !!! WIRES AND CONNECTING BLOCK. HEARD OF.. WIRED UP NOTHING... STOP IT...... 😅