first of 2 videos from yourself I've watched, and can I pay tribute to your delivery. It's fantastic to see someone deliver good content, in a manner that shows great understanding to your field of expertise. Love how you get to the point in a direct but informative manner. Will be watching your other video's Tao, great job, and I've subscribed! As someone who was into the whole flight SIM back in the 90's, I may be coming back! lol!

Man, your reviews are just far the best I've ever seen, and probably not just in the field of flight sim products, but in general. Excellent work, thank you very very much! ****** of ***** :)))

So glad I've ordered the stand alone Boeing yoke. Without detents, it's pretty much a deal breaker. Got an awesome price too, £250 so £100 off the yoke's RRP.

I have this and paired it with the Honeycomb Throttle. It's amazing! I agree with you on your points with the yoke and I'm afraid of breaking the switches on the TM throttle. However when I fly VR, I find it easier to navigate around when paired with the TM quadrant throttle due to the layout and the size of the throttle handles.

@ariminkus2185

2 жыл бұрын

I am getting the yoke and I am wondering for u is the whole setup with the quadrant and yoke smooth with the game u run. When I have used it in the past the quadrant light for gear did not turn on and switch problems. How did u solve that?

@kelvw76

2 жыл бұрын

@@ariminkus2185 no switches issues for me. Just make sure if the honeycomb app bridge is running before you launch msfs.

@remymassa3929

Жыл бұрын

Hello do you know if I can pair TM yoke with the honeycomb bravo throttle on Xbox series x ? Thanks

@kelvw76

Жыл бұрын

@@remymassa3929 the Yoke would work with Xbox but I don't think Xbox would recognise the Bravo throttle quadrant

@remymassa3929

Жыл бұрын

@@kelvw76 thank you for your response ! Why do you think that it will not recognize ? Because honeycomb Alfa and bravo can be pair with Xbox with the Xbox hub !

I have one of these, and I concur largely with this review. The yoke is life changing. The throttle quadrant isn't, but it's not a *bad* throttle quadrant for $100. I do agree that I will get the honeycomb quadrant when it comes time to expand, but for the time being I have a single throttle input and flaps and speedbrake and that works fine for me (don't need asymmetric thrust at the moment) so I wouldn't necessarily recommend delaying purchase until march.

@a.nelprober4971

Жыл бұрын

Im gutted that i purchased the honeycomb alpha before this but it only cost me 130

@KiRiTO72987

Жыл бұрын

For me just the fact that you can get both the honeycomb yoke and the bravo quadrant for the same price was the deal breaker for me especially since I tend to fly Airbus and private jets more than Boeing's anyways in sim

@homomorphic

Жыл бұрын

@@KiRiTO72987 it's a good yoke for any aircraft type. Doesn't have to be a boeing. It sounds like you think flight simulator is only for airliners.

@KiRiTO72987

Жыл бұрын

@@homomorphic never said it's a bad yoke but it's clearly marketed more towards people that want to fly Boeing specifically

@homomorphic

Жыл бұрын

@@KiRiTO72987 not at all. I ne er fly boeing. I never fly airliners at all. I fly aircraft that I would be likely to fly IRL as a training aid.

Great review and great advice on avoiding the throttle. I have the Bravo so will be grabbing yoke only, even tho I'm just GA at the mo. If its the same quality as the pendular pedals - and sounds like it is - sure I'll be very happy

Superb review, been looking at a few reviews now of this Yoke and currently own the Honeycomb Yoke, glad you answered most of my thought questions already, one question though I'm not sure about, does it auto centre ? I guess so with springs. I think I'm going to grab one now, but just the Yoke itself, pity about the faux spring clip check list ... also will the rest on top of the yoke be OK with a keyboard? Great detailed review, thanks for helping my purchase decision.

Thank you so much I'm tempted! Tell me--could a standard PC keyboard be set on the Tablet Holder behind the yoke? I use Saitek yoke and TQ now and set my keyboard on top of it with a custom tilt put in to I can easily access they keyboard.

Thanks for quality review. I am RW pilot and IGI. The Honeycomb Alpha, after 2 years of use, is pretty tired. It never had very good resolution in pitch. (No hall sensors). It is now very sticky in pitch even after cleaning. This is perhaps due to shaft style yokes. The physics are just not there. This causes twitchy flairs mainly. I have tried all sensitivity setings with MSFS, XP, Spad etc. There is not much one do about low res. The newer Alpha for xbox/pc has hall sensors. could be better. The pendular style has much better "physics. The forces, when you pull on yoke with left hand are much better. I use this with TM TPR rudders and Bravo Quad. Great combo for Longitude in MSFS which has pendular style Boeing yoke. The stupid nutbreaker sliders axis on front of yoke are not needed, except for Xbox users perhaps. Gear lever is OK but not great. still use bravo gear lever. Love the spring tensioners. Greater spring tension forces lead to better trimming . Don't purchase quad. Save up fro Bravo.Thanks again.

Another excellent review with fantastic visuals and audio! Well done Tao :)

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

@thenetheriteminecart384

4 ай бұрын

It's actualy $799, same price as an Xbox Series X, bro is sooooooooo American, here up top in Australia, it's $799 for the Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke and $799 for the Xbox Series X, the white Series S is $499.@@VirtualRealityPilot

I was looking at this over the Honeycomb of which I hate the pitch / roll feel. Only concern is the base of the unit and how low it hangs.....might not fit well with my seating position and desk space.

Hello, serious question but could I ask where you got your desk from please? I need a new one but trying to find one large enough for my 4 monitors is proving very difficult. Thanks

I totally agree with your review... I am surprised who made these weird decisions at Thrustmaster... If they will release the yoke alone one day I will get it and then will get the Honeycomb quadrant .

I like what you said about using TM Boeing yoke with Bravo 2 so I bought them. I am a flight sim rookie, so I am lost how to set them up together. Any wisdom or guidance you could send my way would be greatly appreciated.

Beware of rubberised coatings, they may not have longevity. Rubberised tech from the 90s is turning into a sticky goo.

@drScorp1on

10 ай бұрын

I know this comment is a year old, but FINALLY I see someone talk about this IMPORTANT issue. It's the main reason I'm still not sure if I should buy the Alpha XPC or the Thrustmaster.

@VirtualRealityPilot

10 ай бұрын

@drScorp1on I’m still using this yoke and have had no problems with the coating

@VirtualRealityPilot

10 ай бұрын

I’m still using this yoke and I’ve had no problems at all

@drScorp1on

10 ай бұрын

@@VirtualRealityPilot thanks for replying. How long have you been using it? This usually takes quite some time (years) to happen, but when it does it's awful. Happens quicker in warmer climates.

@drScorp1on

10 ай бұрын

​@@VirtualRealityPilotI guess that @truckerallikatuk was referring to the honeycomb. I actually just sent an email changing my order from alpha xpc to the boeing yoke. I just don't want a gooey mess in the future.

Is there a link for the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant? The boeing style one with the reverse thrust? I cannot find it

I have these. The Yoke feels great but the quadrant is the let down. They stupidly didn't add indents or even wm aftermarket fix so you can add indents for the flap settings.

hey i got a question would i be able to use the honey comb quadrant and use it on a Xbox series X combined with the Boeing yoke would that work well at least the honey comb?

Sorry to hear that they didn't take the same quality approach as they did with their Warthog product or their Boeing Yoke. Good to know. The Warthog throttle is amazing.

Does the boeing yoke and the bravo throttle quadrant work along side eachother in msfs?

great video as usual! keep it up mate

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud, glad you enjoyed it

This is my first time seeing this yoke and it looks very interesting. I prefer GA aircraft so I bought the Turtle Beach Velocity One - for about the same cost.

This is exactly what I want to do. Yoke stand-alone and the honeycomb throttle.

i sort of hate the fact you have to choose between flaps or speedbrake . i know there are sliders on the yoke but for the price i would rather have maybe even the option to add perhaps a flap detent addon instead of having to get a second throttle unit.

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree and this is exactly what they did with their airbus line up. The throttle is a real miss in my opinion but the yoke is excellent.

Great review, interested in the yoke - maybe, I usually fly combat sims and GA aircraft with a centre stick

Great video per usual. In your personal opinion, do you prefer the Boeing or HoneyComb yoke?

Thanks for that fine review!

I was suprised to hear that the Yoke only release is March. In my part of the world the Yoke only was released at the same time as the Yoke Pack with throttle. I've had the yoke only since the new year and paired it with a Honeycomb Bravo. Judging by the reviews of the throttle, it seems like the better option.

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome combination - it'll make for an awesome cockpit. So lucky they released the yoke only pack earlier where you are.

I have to saying, strange as it sounds. This works perfectly for me when the yoke is paired with the thrustmaster AIRBUS throttle quadrant

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn’t sound strange, the airbus throttle is much better than the Boeing one, sounds like a great combo!

The knob which is located beneth throttle working good like a real MCP Heading knob? I mean turning rate is depend on how fast you trun the knob. you know? I'm sorry for my bad English.

@user-ts9xe2xd3p

Жыл бұрын

This is crucial b/c hunnycom throttle's knobs is really bad so...

What do you mean about the new one coming in march what is it?

What’s the vr system you use for msfs?

What rudder should I pick

I just wish these had force feedback. I'm using the MS Sidewinder 2 as a stick and I just love having the feedback.

@KiRiTO72987

Жыл бұрын

I didn't even know they made FFB flight sim gear, how much did that set you back?

If it was 4 axis I would buy, and I really like my Airbus (and I did get another throttle quad for eng 3&4). I suspect they want you to guy a second throttle quad here too, then you would get both speed brakes and flaps. When you compare the prices of the two, I'm sticking with my airbus and just making it work with 737.

What's the max desk thickness that this can mount on?

hello your video is amazing ! but can I pair TM yoke with honeycomb bravo throttle on flight sim 2020 on xbox ? thanks

@VirtualRealityPilot

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not as you need the xpc yoke and Xbox hub from honeycomb to get the throttle to work with Xbox. I’d recommend you stay with all thrustmaster or honeycomb on xbox

I have the Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo and they are excellent but as I much prefer the big commercial jets I cannot go past the Thrustmaster Boeing Joke. I was waiting for the standalone yoke to come out, which it has at my local store. As you suggested I will pair it with my Bravo for a top notch setup. That means I have an Alpha up for sale.

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

I think the boeing yoke and bravo throttle are a great combo - so immersive and in VR if you position the yoke where you see it in the sim it really feels like you are there.

@remymassa3929

Жыл бұрын

@@VirtualRealityPilot hello do you know if I can pair the thrustmaster yoke and the bravo honeycombs together on Xbox with the Xbox hub honeycomb ? Thanks

I was trying to find out if this yoke works with x plane 12

Does the bravo one work with xbox?

To my mind, this is for experienced simmers who are ONLY interested in flying Boeing jets. It is great for that... but controlling most other types of aircraft would be odd? The Honeycomb Alpha yoke, while not as specialized, feels like a more well rounded, flexible package... and is less expensive. I know there are people out there who only fly ONE brand of planes... but they seem pretty few and far between. I see this TCA yoke being reviewed and recommended on beginner / general computing publications and channels, and I'm not sure someone wanting to dump a few hundred bucks on a nice shiny new set of controls for MSFS on an XBOX or something entirely understand the narrow scope of this thing...

So TM yoke and what quadrant?

I just purchased a Turtle Beach Velocity One Yoke and Pedals Yoke-Fingerhut-[$447) [forced to use or would lose $1600 credit account] Pedals- -MicroCenter-$299+2yr warranty=$359 (6-months same as cash...no interest) I know I spent about $900. But I really am impressed...the low resistance of the throttle controls means I'm not gonna have to worry about regular wear and tear for about 4-5 years. For my first jump in to flight sims...I'm a bit shocked at the prices vs options offered on most flight controller/yoke Personal Edit: @6:32 your wire management skills give me a "chubby"

Great review!

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

The all metal internals certainly make this an interesting choice but at this price I’d say get yourself a Fulcrum yoke. It’s the best non force feedback yoke there is and for what it is the price is amazing. It may not be well known but it puts the bigger brands to shame. Unfortunately most of these reviews never mention it in comparison because as far as I’m concerned it’s the bench mark by which others should be considered against. The Honercomb’s have some nice features but they will not last and we are already beginning to see issues with the alpha cord and the bravo internal wiring and no doubt the choice of pots over Hall effect will also start to cause issues in time. If you are serious about flight sim do yourself a favour and check out the Fulcrum yoke and their work in progress throttle quadrant. No affiliation just a delighted customer.

@simplymrklmYT

Жыл бұрын

Are there even feedback yokes? No. Is it the only one of its kind? Yes. Is it the most amazing yoke i ever tried? Yes. Does it feel like a real Boeing yoke? Yea

@simplymrklmYT

Жыл бұрын

I am using the standalone Boeing yoke and i combine it with the tca Airbus captain pack

@ExperimentalSimAvionics

Жыл бұрын

Wrong there are feedback yokes. Anyone saying something is the best they’ve ever used is always so open when there is no context. If you’ve only ever tried this and a Saitek then that is not saying a lot. I stand by what I said the Fulcrum is the best non force yoke there is.

@simplymrklmYT

Жыл бұрын

@@ExperimentalSimAvionics i have used the saitek yoke al welk for a while and i have the honeycomb and the feel is very nice of it but i dont like how it flies

@simplymrklmYT

Жыл бұрын

@@ExperimentalSimAvionics and your not even the same person

Great video, would you say you prefer the Honey Comb Alpha yoke or Boeing ? Thanks!

@williamstrachan-ks4tq

Жыл бұрын

the honeycomb alpha pitch and roll are horrible for the cost, also turtle beach reviews scare me for 500$ , I dont know what to buy

Does anyone know what app is shown on the iPad at 7:32?

I did buy one. Found it had deadzone on both x- and y-axis on Yoke, so returned it the day after and got back my money. Even tried updating firmware..... For me a Yoke or Joystick should only have deadzone, if you like to put it inside a game yourself.... Have a good flight....

@Deltaexe190

4 ай бұрын

you do know you can remove the dead zone in the settings unless it was an issue with the yoke itself..

Do you know by any chance if the TCA Boeing Yoke compatible with the dual throttle control panel hotas warthog ? Thanks.

@BlackShark032

2 жыл бұрын

I'm using TCA yoke with HOTAS warthog throttle. It works.

@basbiro6527

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackShark032 thanks 😊

The thrust controls you can get separately for 150$ and the yoke is 400$ that’s why I only got the thrust controls

I might buy when I get a pc but idk about rudder on it

Mine arrived yesterday, gonna try it after my night shifts, I am a little disappointed in the throttle quadrant, just feels to much like a toy and built cheaply compared to the yoke.

Boeing yoke with a honeycomb throttle quadrant would be the best setup

Can we combine the boeing yoke and the honey comb bravo throttle for Xbox

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not as you need the honeycomb yoke to connect the throttle to the Xbox

Yes it's worth it, best yoke I've owned.

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

It is a beauty

Definitely doesnt look like the same quality as the airbus setup, which overall is pretty good

What is better choice - Turtle Beach Velocity One vs this Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke? (for Xbox)

@thevirtualgoalie

2 жыл бұрын

TM Boing Yoke pack

Feel like, for the price, I would go full honeycomb. But who am I kidding? I don't have the money nor the space at the moment.

Hi, good review, great production quality. Really professionnally made. I don't understand why your channel does not take off. mauybe you should complete with more live sessiosn, twitch etc..? coming back to the review, i find the overall rating inappropriate considering that the yoke is the most important. I bet their pricing is due to licence agreement. Microsoft and boeing are two big names you must pay to sue their logos and specifications. Can't wait to feel the pendular on my desk

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, very much appreciated. I'm sure you're right, I bet the license fee from Boeing was pretty steep. Its a great yoke and no doubt it will really add to peoples flight sim experience.

Thanks for the Cool Video👍🙂

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Most welcome

@izer0014

2 жыл бұрын

@@VirtualRealityPilot thanks

Re the comment about rubberised coatings: 1) Materials technology has improved hugely since the 1990's. 2) Given my age, nearly 70, I'll be dead before it causes a problem even if the material hasn't improved. 😁

Thank you 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Most welcome 🙏

VR is why I went for this, I really liked the honeycomb but with no way to see it I was anxious it was just too busy with controls. Also note that whilst you only get 3 levers for the Thrustmaster, you can go 1 speed brake, 1 thrust with reverser and 1 flap. Whilst the single thrust is perhaps not as realistic for airliners, again having these three levers setup like this is much more suited to VR and there's never been a time I wanted differential thrust anyway. Also note the thrustmaster positioning of buttons below the thrust levels and the dial, that should make setting the basics whilst not being able to see much easier.

@KiRiTO72987

Жыл бұрын

Differential thrust is nice for making tight turns on the ground or if you're someone who likes to simulate failures and try emergency landing but yeah def not a requirement

They need to get force feedback on yokes.

I'll wait for Stand alone Yoke; especially since I have Bravo and Alpha; eh!

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Yup - I definitely think its the way to go

is the product for windows 10 or 11

@VirtualRealityPilot

Жыл бұрын

It will work on both

I love looking at things I can never afford

@williamstrachan-ks4tq

Жыл бұрын

i can afford all of them and dont like any of them for one reason or other

The "premium feel" rubber goo won't be premium after a few years. That stuff degenerates into a sticky mess. Not having that stuff sprayed on the plastic it a positive thing.

The best solution of Boeing aircrafts is Thrustmaster(Yoke) + Honeycomb(Throttle) + Logitech(Flight Rudder)

We can connect this thing to PlayStation

Mine Wont Turn On

I like your accent

could be funny with Elite Dangerous or SW squadrons

But the honeycomb throttle doesn’t work on Xbox ;)

I got mine for 700$ but TOTALLY worth it!

I am in the market for this Yoke but there is something keeping me annoyed. Its looks kinda cheap, also the little thrust levers below it and the crapy looking landing gear lever. We are waiting for an affordable boeing yoke without the crap but with a pendular design. So honeycomb pls come up with one.

No, its not worth it when you can buy a Honeycomb Alpha yoke and Bravo throttle quadrant for about the same price. If you really want a joystick then buy a Warthog. I have all three and highly recommend them...depending on what you are flying.

The quadrant is so dumb. So manny missed opportunities and the whole design looks like its supposed to force users to buy two instead of one. I can't believe that Boeing approved it. It looks like it should cost 60€ to be honest. Sad to see Boeing going with this bad of a product especially because it will likely be the only Boeing yoke on the market. Sad that it isn't the B737 style.

500 dollars is a lot for this yoke, even 400 dollars. My main problem with it is: Why does it have to be a column yoke? The length of the column is too small for such a design to really make much sense. At extreme ends of travel this thing just bends over too much. The whole thing just seems really gimmicky. The Honeycomb yoke does a lot better, but I dislike how little travel it has. Makes small movements very hard. I returned my Thrustmaster yoke and got a AGRONN yoke instead. If the selling point for you is the column feature, I would buy something else. This yoke is pretty good otherwise, but I think it is a little overhyped and overpriced.

Is it worth $500? No. Even an actual boeing plane isn't worth that much.

Anybody complaining about plastic is silly when the yokes and sticks in Boeing and Airbus aircraft today are plastic

I also buyed it👍🙂

@VirtualRealityPilot

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy 😉

@izer0014

2 жыл бұрын

@@VirtualRealityPilot thank you

I think it would have been better if TM had removed the Throttle and improved the Yoke material quality. Throtte is disaster.

The mouting SUCKS! Breaks easy, need about 1/2 an inch more heigh to pass over all types of desks, and it is not very stable.

Both look incredibly cheap on the outside. Not worth US$ 500 at all. Plenty of better alternatives on this price range.

Get Yoke, go broke

NO

NO!! it is not worth it!! absolutely ridiculous price in a world where companies like winwing and Virpil exist!!!

it is not nice wat thrustmaster doing !! the Joke ar Grait bud the rest !!!! no

Hi VRP, . I like your quote re: the quadrant: "It's like it was developed by a different team." It's amazing isn't it that one half of the package falls far short of the other in quality design. How on earth did this get past the quality checks? Think I'll do a mix n match using the Boeing yoke and the Bravo quadrant. This makes more sense I thinks. Thanks for a great review ~Rm @Navisim101