So Which is Better? Which do you prefer and WHY??

@Ayviation

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what you like

@V1Sim

2 жыл бұрын

Airbus? ;) Sweet review man! You are the best in the bizz for these reviews!

@adam632

2 жыл бұрын

I'm getting the honeycomb alpha for birthday!

@parkershelnutt8897

2 жыл бұрын

I would prefer the honeycomb one but do you know when it will be compatible with the Xbox X?

@AviationLover2111

2 жыл бұрын

@@michalpetrilak3976 I agree!

I'll buy the Boeing yoke and keep my honeycomb throttle quadrant.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

This is actually a great combination

@Mista_Spicy

2 жыл бұрын

Hey is the honeycomb yoke compatible with Xbox u would like to do that combo too

@Mista_Spicy

2 жыл бұрын

@Naughty Boy 💦🤬 ok thanks

@peterpulciani

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of doing the same, I mostly fly the 787 and the yoke would go perfect but I don't like the throttle design so thought get the honeycomb throttles too.

I've learned to like the stiffer pitch axis on the Honeycomb Alpha because it gets progressively stiffer the more you push or pull.. this in turn really clues you in to trimming your aircraft, just like it would in real life.

Thanks for quality review. I am RW pilot and IGI. The Honeycomb Alpha, after 2 years of use, is pretty tired. It never had very good resolution in pitch. (No hall sensors). It is now very sticky in pitch even after cleaning. This is perhaps due to shaft style yokes. The physics are just not there. This causes twitchy flairs mainly. I have tried all sensitivity setings with MSFS, XP, Spad etc. There is not much one do about low res. The newer Alpha for xbox/pc has hall sensors. could be better. The pendular style has much better "physics. The forces, when you pull on yoke with left hand are much better. I use this with TM TPR rudders and Bravo Quad. Great combo for Longitude in MSFS which has pendular style Boeing yoke. The stupid nutbreaker sliders axis on front of yoke are not needed, except for Xbox users perhaps. Gear lever is OK but not great. still use bravo gear lever. Love the spring tensioners. Greater spring tension forces lead to better trimming . Don't purchase quad. Save up fro Bravo.Thanks again.

@KiraSlith

Жыл бұрын

This the exact the combo I was thinking of when I saw the TM Boeing the first time, and how bad they cheaped out on the bundled throttle after putting so much effort into the yoke. But I couldn't bring myself to buy into either set just because nobody talks about mixing sets, this is definitely on my cue now. Thanks for sharing!

This is excactly what id been looking for. Thanks a lot!

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome. I hope it helped

Thanks! This is the comparison we were waiting for! Good to see how it looks side by side and I'm pleased with the size of the Thrustmaster. One more week till the official release! Can't wait.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Let me know what ya think when ya get it

@kelvw76

2 жыл бұрын

@@BluGames oh no, pre-order has been delayed until 5th Jan for me

Cool video!!! Great delivery, package pace and knowledge I found it very helpful and concise 👊

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks glad i could help a bit

Thank you! I've been stuck between those two for a few months now. This video helped me make my choice.

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

So glad i could help! Enjoy!

Really thorough comparison, thank you!

I have both the alpha and bravo from honeycomb. If your a pilot that likes mapping cockpit switches to actual buttons and switches for a more immersive experience instead of just clicking around a virtual cockpit, I would strongly recommend the honeycomb flight control system. Ive really been on the fence about the tca boeing yoke. Im sure it would pair nicely with the honeycomb bravo, but im not sure about loosing a whole group of switches i would have with the alpha

@DownTheRabbit-Hole

11 ай бұрын

Switches not needed if you use Air Manager desktop/knobster

I like the Boeing yoke, really do....with the throttle, it has the controls sufficient to replace the setup I have now. However, the size and how low it goes below desk level is a big factor for me too. As an example, I fly lots of different planes......The little axes at the bottom of the yoke I would use for prop and mixture axis, and the spoiler or flap axis on the throttle assembly would be converted to a BRAKE axis with the square buttons below for flaps positions. I have a small clipboard for notes attached to the hub of my CH yoke, and this one has that option - plus the Ipad mount is very useful for me too.

@marS3l

Жыл бұрын

In a real 737 you pull that yoke up to your balls and hold it there unless you wanna fall back down to the ground after take off, not the most comfortable experience but that's how it is!

Great review; really well done.

@BluGames

10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much

I have the Honeycomb Alpha and it works well but there is a rub: The cat6 cable that connects the yoke to the base. After 2 years of use, the socket contacts in the base or yoke or both have failed and the yoke buttons no longer respond unless you bend cable just the right way. Replacing the cable made no difference. Many users have blogs about this same problem. Caveat emptor.

Thanks for the video !

In my opinion, I like to use TCA Yoke with Honeycomb Throttle for my home cockpit setup.

and yes you need the throttles those little sliders do not put you in the real feel of a cockpit, you get the more immersive feel and functions with a throttle unit, i am going to get the Boeing throttle as well, i want to try em, but getting 2 units is a must so you can have speed brakes, both throttles and flaps lever

I've flown the cessna 172 and I've tried the honeycomb yoke but not the thrustmaster boeing. I gotta say, the stiffness of the pitch on the honeycomb is pretty spot on and you really feel the weight of the aircraft especially during a flare. I just wish the roll axis was a bit stiffer though.

both are equally as awesome, in fact my ideal set up is with the boeing yoke, with the honeycomb throttle unit, and the thrustmaster pendular pedals

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

I have been flying lately with boeing yoke and honeycomb throttle

@Shannonbarnesdr1

2 жыл бұрын

@@BluGames oh cool, im still gonna get the boeing throttles a set of 2, because i might like the large levers, the only thing i dont like about the honeycomb is how small the levers are , other than that, its just amazing

@agpilot1873

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I went for. Can’t say it’s the perfect combo but it’s the perfect for me. Took some trying and selling what I didn’t like. Other than that a joystick is a must, half of my flying is simulated better using a joystick and so I’d add a solid joystick to these to make it perfect. For me that was the VIRPIL Warbrd base and the Warthog Grip.

You need 4 types of controls. Push/pull yoke for GA i.e Honeycomb Alpha. Pendulum yoke for Boeing and other planes that use yokes that are to the floor i.e Thrustmaster. An Airbus stick ie Flightsimprojects. A fighter stick i.e Winwing. That should cover all the aircraft in the simulator. If you can't afford it, then get the one(s) for the planes you fly the most.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Yep agreed

@anthonyvallillo422

2 жыл бұрын

And don't forget the meatball-on-a-stick throttle/prop/mixture for Cessnas! Actually, the new unit from Turtle Beach has this option as well, and might be a good bet for someone who flies Cessnas exclusively. One extra advantage of having a stick unit in the mix is that, as long as the stick is the Thrustmaster T Flight HOTAS X, you can use the rocker on the front of the throttle as your steering tiller - it is quite realistic in that role, placed off to your left. Put it front and center for your turn and burn flying!

@dandyel1059

2 жыл бұрын

I used Thrustmaster Warthog which handles airbus flying pretty well.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it does

@pilotjj1

2 жыл бұрын

How about the embraer yoke?

Imagine the Thrustmaster with force feedback/built in stick shaker. Hope we get to the level of DD steering wheels one day.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

I cant wait for that

@zackeryhardy9504

Жыл бұрын

I don't hink ffb is really as big as people think it is with flight sims. I mean the shakers would be nice for the commercial as the mechanical shaking is reralistic, but from my experience in a real aircraft (pipistrel alpha trainer and pipistrel virus) I find that the air going over the control surfaces makes it feel really smooth. Actually very similar to a spring. The big thing that does differentiate it from the spring and cam system is that the tension increase and decreases based upon how fast you are moving. So you have no tension when you are just on the ground but when you throttle up the tension increases and same in the air. But I would argue that you don't necessarily need ffb to get that feeling. You could just have a system that increases and decreases spring tension. I mean I have flown with some pretty extreme turbulence where I am getting bounced out of my seat hitting my head on the windows and the like before and that feeling does not translate to the stick really at all. Its all in the movement of your body. For this reason I think the impression people get when looking at racing wheels is not the same as in flight. I mean in a car you are dealing with the friction of the road, but in the air even with turbulance, it does not affect the control surfaces much if at all. At least I have not seen it in the particular aircraft I fly. The reason being your forward movement puts far greater pressure on the surfaces than the vertical and horizontal movement of the air. This essentially means you have the air acting as a spring on your surfaces. There is a bit more of a damp effect than traditional springs. I have actually found that having a dampening clutch such as what exists on the VKB gunfighter essentially makes it feel 1 to 1 with a real aircraft. Now the 1 thing I have noticed is very different are rudders. Rudders are different in that I don't really know of any that have enough tension on them. Real aircraft rudders tend to be a lot more stiff than what is generally available. I have been eyeballing the redbird ones, but my current thrustmaster tpr pedals certainly are not stiff enough and that detent in the middle feels incredibly unrealistic. Oddly enough the VKB pedals felt the most realistic despite the gas pedal style, but their issue was that the spring tension was way too loose on the highest spring settings. But again I don't feel force feedback in the pedals. The force feedback products like the brunner tend to not really feel all that realistic. I mean they do give you more information and that may seem more realistic to someone who doesn't fly, but it doesn't actually simulate real life. You get way too much feeling in the stick compared to real life. I would argue a but kicker that activates during buffeting would have a more realistic result than getting a FFB stick in general. Though there is 1 aspect which is trim. Right now in simulators you cannot realistically trim. In real life trimming is super easy, but in games because you are not trimming away pressure, it doesn't work right.

Cannot wait to use this with PMDG aircraft’s in the simulator

Do you know by any chance if the TCA Boeing Yoke compatible with the dual throttle control panel hotas warthog ? Thanks.

Nice comparison! However, I think you haven't really stressed the price difference. You are basically saying, that both of them are equally good, and the only difference is the base of the yoke. But, in that case, I think that Honeycomb Alpha is worth more, because of the lesser price. Also, because of that lesser price, you can also purchase Honeycomb Bravo with it, and you will get MUCH more than with the Thrustmaster throttle quadrant.

@kamael1125

10 ай бұрын

100%. TM is nowhere near the value for money that Honeycomb brings to the table. Just purely going by this, TM is loosing by a mile. Sure if you want to go for airliner feel etc, you will go for TM. But other than that, I really can't see why would anyone want to pick TM over Honeycomb. For similar price or maybe slightly bigger, you can get honeycomb yoke and throttle quadrant and than....TM is not even in the same league.

Thank for the video.

I'm new to the flight world and about to start looking into flying. What is the purpose for the iPad and how does it work with flight Sim

I would much prefer it if Thrustmaster sold their yoke as a standalone without the quadrant (which is missing the flaps lever) at a cheaper price and I would team that up with the Honeycomb Bravo quadrant - that would be like Boeing simheaven on earth !

@drizzle-ATHF

2 жыл бұрын

the stand alone yoke on amazon sells for $399 ... i have the full honeycomb system both alpha and bravo ... i was thinking about doing the same thing, paring them together

The plane I have a chance at flying IRL would be a Cessna, so the Honeycomb is best to practice on.

What's the max thickness a desk can be for the boeing to mount? thanks!

I bought the boing TCA yoke and it feels really good. The only disappointment is that when I apply back pressure and turn the yoke to the right it glitches rapidly back and forth to neutral in game, I think there is a bad sensor in my TCA yoke, I tried to contact thrustmaster on how to fix it but they don't really give me a straight answer. There is literally nothing on the internet that shows you how to fix it. but overall if thrustmaster didn't ship the yoke to with a bad sensor it feels real nice.

@gabrielcouter

4 ай бұрын

did you fix this? Did support get back to you?

I fly my 737 on VATSIM, Just switched from the Honeycomb to the Boeing thrustmaster - it's like having to learn to fly all over again. I had my landings down perfect with the honeycomb, suddenly I'm using a new yoke that is essentially a 737 replica and suddenly my landings were much tougher. It's the problem I would face I guess if I stepped into a real 737, the control column takes getting used to.

@Raymondvanderploeg

6 ай бұрын

Hi, what are your thoughts now?? Is it better or not?

I wonder if adding just a little grease to the honeycomb would fix the stiffness.

Ive always loved the budget friendly thrustmaster options but Im sorry , just watching other videos thrustmaster cant compete with honeycomb for price and/or quality from what I've seen... but ill give you the fact you might be sponsored by one of said controls. I plan on purchasing a honeycomb flight control. I currently run a budget thrustmaster 1600m fcs so I cant say much. Either way good content!

Im a retired airline pilot who sims the X-Plane 11 Zibo 737. I had the saitek yoke, it sucked. I have currently the honeycomb yoke. Disappointing! I think you summed it up when you suggested it was good for a Cessna 172. In pitch and roll, it is not good for the 737. I plan to try the Boeing yoke to see if I can get a better experience. Nothing is going to make any sim perfect. I will sell my honeycomb to offset the cost of the Boeing

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Very true nothing will be able to perfectly match the feel of a real yoke but hopefully you will enjoy this one

@fingerhorn4

Жыл бұрын

Paul: you can now get the Yoke without the accompanying throttles. I think you'll find the perfect combination to be the TCA Boeing Yoke with the Honeycomb quadrant which is extremely well built and has lots of lever combinations instantly configurable. I agree with you about the Saitek yoke (and quadrant). They are pathetically inadequate.

@THESHADOW97139

8 ай бұрын

Hi And now Paul ??

I have the Alpha and Bravo; I will get the Boeing TCA yoke eventually; will also watch prices; I will pass on the throttle Quadrant

What’s the roll axis range on the Boeing yoke?

I already own the Honeycombe Alpha, I always find the pitch is way too hard which causes my roller wheels chair to roll, very annoying. I love the look of the Thrusmaster but dont like the price tag.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Yea a bit pricey. Its not a must-have.. but its nice to have

I find a lot of products that have that soft rubbery texture starts getting tacky after a while. That's my only reservations about the Honeycomb yolk.

@theflyinfisher404

2 жыл бұрын

how are you verified

@SimAviator

2 жыл бұрын

I have been using the honeycomb for more than 1.5 years now. No issues whatsoever with the material

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

I guess i havent been using mine enough. I havent experienced this yet

@kenbarthSimAV8tor

2 жыл бұрын

Yolk is on you eh Bud ;)

@jungerspross7922

2 жыл бұрын

I've had mine for almost 2 years and its still as good as new. Makes me wonder if people dont wash their hands ;)

the issue I find with the Honeycomb alpha is the buttons they've used on the yoke itself feel horrible like plastics used in some McDonalds happy meal toy, the buttons on the main body and the look/feel of the rest of the yoke itself though is really nice.

Alpha & Bravo from Honeycomb plus a Stream Deck from Elgato is one the setup !

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yea for sure

I am looking at either one of these yokes but leaning towards the Thrustmaster because I mainly love flying airliners. I have a half inch glass desk. Would this be a problem when mounting the Thrustmaster. Any advice would be welcome. Great video by the way keep up the great work Thank You

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm ok. In not sure if thats too thin for the mount but you could possibley put a small black of wood or something under your desk.

@pettyjohn725

2 жыл бұрын

No, my desk is thinner and they still attach

Thanks, the video and video looks nice but I would have expected a bit more in depth analysis of these two yokes. Listening to you on your stream, you keep talking about feeling, precision and so on... so behind price and buttons, what is really changing when you switch to the TCA Boeing yoke? because at the end what matters is the plane handling when we pilot for hours. We don't have all 400 bucks to spend. My Alpha yoke is now 2 years old, and the rubber used starts to feel differentely. more sticky. I am scared I will have to sue gloves soon

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

To explain:.. Thrustmaster has a larger range of motion. So you can move the yoke more forward and back without causing aggressive pitch angles especially during take off and landing. After some practice i actually find it helps me from over-flaring on landing. Does the help?

@aquamich129

2 жыл бұрын

@@BluGames thank you! how do you feel when you go back to your Alpha? it is something like more you play, bigger the difference it is?

good review

Curious if the soft material on the Honeycomb Alpha will break down into a sticky mess after a few years like a lot of those coatings do...(looking at you X52!)

@charlie7mason

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I really hated how my X52 did that and won't consider the Alpha if it is expected to do the same.

@MrDemonicDan

Жыл бұрын

@@charlie7mason I haven't tried it yet with my X52, but have with other items similarly affected, but rubbing alcohol can be used to take off all the sticky stuff. Definitely not good enough for it to go that way in the first place. I'd certainly love to know if the Alpha will suffer the same fate.

@charlie7mason

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDemonicDan I guess it'll take a while for someone to figure it out due to the nature of the wear & tear and the Alpha being a relatively new product, so no one's owned one for long enough.

@terryhay2029

Жыл бұрын

Rubberised textures all eventually turn to a sticky mess and my X52 was no different. The answer to this is to use iso propylene alcohol or IPA. But you need to rub it quite vigorously to get it all off. It wont work for just trying to get the sticky stuff off, since it will soon become sticky again. Instead, you have rub quite a lot with the IPA until all surfaces are back to bare plastic. Frankly the glossy black plastic under my X52's rubberised coating was a pleasant surprise and I much prefer it. They still serve me well. But yes, expect the Honeycomb Alpha to go this way too.

i bought the honeycomb when the thrustmaster yoke wasnt released and i love to fly airliners and it has been a little hard to fly them with the honeycomb and this video just made me think if i made i mistake getting the honeycomb and if i should have waited

@Aviator1414

Жыл бұрын

I got the honeycomb because I fly General aviation aircrafts and helps me stay current and if you just started flying get honey comb if you are a airliner pilot I would Get the Boeing yoke but it’s your opinion

this was very useful, thank you

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

does the yoke clamps completely close even though you(me) might have a very thin desk??? would it completely close??? Thank You so much and Excellent Video!!!!

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

Yes it does!

Intrresting video, i order tca Boeing for the honeycomb, can't wait to have tca boeing i wishing Premium quality

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy

I have a Thrustmaster TCA Airbus but I would like to buy a Yoke. If I am a pilot on Vatsim, would you recommend Thustamster TCA Airbus Yoke? Thank's for your help.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Yea i would recommend it

The airport map is KBOS Logan airport right cause i spot there !

For me the 2 are good and I have the honeycomb and I will go for the boeing one soon, one for GA aircraft and the other for boeing planes or airliners, the one who likes aviation, you know that the price is not looked at

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Yep yep

after owning the honeycomb yoke, i’m now switching to the boeing yoke. Honeycomb is too stiff for use with airliners in my opinion

@bbyrd130

Жыл бұрын

How does the TM Boeing yoke do with GA planes like the 152 and 172?

I'm more of a GA/biz jet kinda gal. I still want the Honeycomb.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like honeycomb is all you need. And i also love biz jets

Hi @Blu Games Can you do a video on Aerofly FS 2022

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Let me look into it

I fly Everything, what to go for?

I would want to fly both airliners and GA planes with a yoke. I dont have a lot of money but i could buy either one woth some saving. Which one is best for me?

@jmizzonini

2 жыл бұрын

Wondering the same , basically I want what provides finer control and best ability to trim. Basically sounds best to try each but not realistic for a lot of us to do so.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

To answer both of you.. depends if you have a throttle? If not.. I recommend thrustmaster. If yes Then the cheaper option would be the honeycomb

@jmizzonini

2 жыл бұрын

@@BluGames so you'd say that the honeycomb and thrust master both provide the same smooth and accurate control experience? I used to have a saitek yoke, with the center detent it made it near impossible to trim anything! Lol. Basically looking for which provides the smoothest movent I guess

They each have their place and are quite different so it’s hard to compare.

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

Yes very hard

Can you use none honeycomb peripherals like Logitech rudder pedals with their Yoke?

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

Yes on pc but not on xbox

@theandroids

Жыл бұрын

@@BluGames Thanks.

Already ordered the thrustmaster

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Sweeeet enjoy

Yeah upgrading to the Boeing yoke from the logitech yoke is WELL worth it.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear it

I mostly fly airliners but i don’t have a ton of space and the thrutmaster is a bit pricey so I’ll get honeycomb

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

You want regret either. Enjoy

I have the TCA setup, and it is not worth the money. The gear lever is basically a toggle switch and is a pain. The throttle quadrants are cheaply made, and you have to buy two for 4 engine setup. I recently purchased the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle quadrant, and it is soooo much better than the plastic Boeing junk and way more flexible with the many different levers to fit any aircraft you wish to fly. I ran across this thread and will buy the Alpha yoke in the next few minutes because the TCA just doesn't work for me personally on anything other than airliners. I hear the remarks on the stiffer pitch axis, and that is what I am looking for since purchasing the Hotstart Challenger 650. With 30 years experience in flight sim and flying everything you can imagine on cheaper yokes down through the years I am having hell landing the 650 with the TCA yoke and I believe it is due to the lighter pull on the TCA and the hinged effect, which is just not natural for anything but an airliner. This is just my opinion, but I sorely wish I had saved my money on the TCA and went Honeycomb all the way to start with. Good luck to all of you and whatever you choose, but you won't really know until you make the jump.

@furmanvit

Жыл бұрын

hi, did you fly on real planes?

The Thrustmaster Boeing is good for Boeing airliners but the Honeycomb still gets the job done. When it comes to both the yoke and throttle quadrant, I think the Honeycomb Pack has better value for money than the Thrustmaster Boeing pack.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

If only honeycomb sold theres as a “pack”

@HarrisonVogl

2 жыл бұрын

Do not buy the throttle quadrant, it has a design flaw where the cables break over time and the reverse and toga buttons stop working

@Lucca-An-Aspiring-Poet

2 жыл бұрын

@@HarrisonVogl so far mine is prestine after over a year of daily abuse, could ofc just be my luck.

@mercster

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I feel the TCA is a great specialized yoke for folks that are almost exclusively Boeing fans. But a lot of new people, I feel, are going with the TCA based on an abstract "look and feel", and don't understand that it's kinda goofy to fly a Cessna or something with the TCA. They may not even know what the difference is between GA and jumbo jets...

@hikari2752

Жыл бұрын

@@mercster for me, I would pick the TCA Boeing yoke for Boeing, but the throttle quadrant will be Honeycomb Bravo, because in my opinion, Thrustmaster messed up with the TCA Boeing throttle quadrant's ergonomics design.

Nice video. We live in a new world of possibilities these days, albeit one with a dollop of non-digital viruses running around! I have been using the Alpha and Bravo for almost a year now, and I find the Alpha pretty much the same as you do - a bit heavy on the pitch axis, in fact a good bit heavy. They claim that this is intentional, and that the force is close to that in a real airplane, but I beg to differ (with 40 plus years of professional pilot experience to back me up). When flying just about anything from a Cessna to a Boeing to the PMDG DC-6 with the Honeycomb, the pitch forces are such that one pretty much flies it with trim. Although this is, in fact, done often in the real world, especially on big airplanes, it is not a recommended technique for the uninitiated, particularly in small planes. The Alpha does offer a bit more than 90 degrees of wheel throw, which is actually realistic for a small plane (and a few big ones as well), but that much yoke input is hardly ever needed IRL unless you were trying to emulate the water-pouring aileron rolls of Bob Hoover! For whatever reason, it IS occasionally needed in simulation, but that is probably more related to the flight model than to the hardware. My Alpha has held up very well so far, which is a bit more than I can say for my Bravo (I am on #3 now, but to their great credit Honeycomb has been exceptionally supportive and has promptly replaced the defective units). I have yet to actually see or touch a Thrustmaster Boeing yoke, but on the basis of looks, to say nothing of apparent functionality, I think the setup I will eventually end up with will be a Thrustmaster Boeing yoke combined with the Honeycomb Bravo throttle set. Nothing in view yet, at least at the consumer level, can match the Honeycomb Bravo for realistic looks and functionality. Granted, it is about half scale; but, that aside, it really feels like a Boeing quadrant. The Thrustmaster throttle lashup that pairs with their yoke would be terrific, except for the fact that the Bravo exists. And it looks like a Thrustmaster and a Bravo would play very nicely together - in fact, that might be a good subject for a future video! How fortunate we are to have such choices, to say nothing of the sims and add-ons to use them with!

What app does he use for the map on his iPad

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

The apps on my ipad are “navigraph” for airport diagrams and procedures And “skyvector” free website with vfr charts

Thank you, I don‘t Know-how which ohne I should Bus. I think Alpha… but I want to Fly airliners

@originalpisces

2 жыл бұрын

I would buy the Boeing yoke and the honeycomb quadrant.

I have both

I got the Boeing yoke with Bravo throttles!

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

How you like it

In the start of the video you said you were here to review and find out which is better. But at the end you say you cant tell us which is the better one, which was the whole point in watching the video.

Honeycomb support sucks. The product is inferior. I was a pre-order customer and was left on read with support after the elevator trim buttons stopped working. I replaced the ethernet cord and still only worked intermittently. The yoke lasted until right after warranty ran out. I swapped to the Boeing TCA yoke and it's phenomenal.

@THESHADOW97139

8 ай бұрын

Tca always ??

Black in my days, the only option was Logitech lol.

Both are great at what they do... but I find it odd that a lot of beginner/general gaming sites/channels are kinda pushing the Boeing one as "man this is so cool!" without noting that... this is for replicating a Boeing. Experienced simmers who ONLY wanna fly Boeing aircraft, the TCA is great. But lots of these beginners have no idea what type of planes they wanna fly, they may wanna fly a wide range. And I just don't think the Boeing is as suited for that. Sure it'll work but... I'd feel goofy flying a Cessna with the TCA. Whereas I wouldn't feel AS goofy, flying a Boeing with the Alpha. The Alpha is more generic in a sense, which is a strength in some situations.

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

Very true and fait point. I agree actually

Very interesting, for Boeing flying, I think 100% the Thrustmaster is the winner.

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Yea

When is honeycomb coming out with the Xbox X compatible version?

@matysdebackerXI

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was march April. 20 dollars more.

@animatedchristmascollector3754

Жыл бұрын

It’s double the price, xpc it’s the best yoke out there consumer grade. Has more resolution then the old one. Feels heavier and more realistic. And spring loaded mags

I prefer the honeycomb because my sim work is for GA. If you do chose the Honeycomb Yoke, please see the KZread video ‘ Honeycomb Alpha Yoke SECRET Calibration Mode ! ‘ by Almost Aviation.

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

Yea i used that video multiple times until i got my alpha replaced

The best combination is the TCA Boeing Yoke but with the Honeycomb Bravo quadrant. The TCA "quadrant" is flimsy, poorly made, loose, cheap feeling and cynically lacking enough levers for flaps and spoilers, forcing you to buy two of them. The Honeycomb yoke is too stiff and the switches are ok but lacking in functionality, whereas the Honeycomb Bravo has a whole set of autopilot controls in addition to programmable switches and extremely well made levers with endless combinations of Jet airliner, small jet, twin prop and single prop options, all very solidly built with excellent motion. This combined with the TCA yoke is for me the perfect combination, and now you can buy the Yoke without the "quadrant", though it is still miles too expensive.

What really makes the difference is the throttles that go with each though. I know you are not comparing the throttles, but they need to be talked about. The Boeing Throttle sucks, it’s really bad. Cheap plastic and not resistance or detents, there are only 3 columns so you either choose flaps or speed brakes. The Bravo, however, is a masterpiece even better than the Alpha. For the full yoke and throttle, Honeycomb is much better.

Okay tca I get it is made for Boeing aircrafts I just find the honeycomb ways better okay I have seen rough packages with a broken button for honeycomb which the tca is good but I like honeycomb way better based the apperence the price is cheaper but I had pay a lot for the yoke the come. Just the apetencias looks good the plastic looks strong with on honeycomb has a thicker base to It. Okay scence the yoke is cheaper people are going to call it a GA yoke I will use for both.

2nd persons to watch the vid

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

THAT FUCKING MUZAK MAN

honey comb is much better, built quality, more premium feel

@BluGames

Жыл бұрын

“Better” is relative but “premium” feel yea i agree. All comes down to preference

iv had both and boeing ..yoke is very superior to anything iv used...

The hardness of a real b777 yoke is 2 times harder.

DUDE I am so sick and tired of this company didn’t they say they would start preorders by the end of the year and they have not said a word about anything has anybody heard anything yet.

I like Honeycomb way better...!!!!!!!!!!

@BluGames

2 жыл бұрын

Go for it

Thrustmaster Products just look so CHEAPLY BUILT though. They have one saving grace, and that is their racing wheels. Anything else I wouldn't bother.

Please do not put (Which is Better?) in the title of your video when your conclusion is, "I'm not going to say if one is better than the other"

"Шо то хуйня шо эта хуйня. Эти обе хуйни..." (с) умный пацан из 90х

Red backlights on the honeycomb yoke makes it look like a toy

@tombulva

2 жыл бұрын

Did you know you can dim them or even turn them off ??? ;-)

I have the TCA setup, and it is not worth the money. The gear lever is basically a toggle switch and is a pain. The throttle quadrants are cheaply made, and you have to buy two for 4 engine setup. I recently purchased the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle quadrant, and it is soooo much better than the plastic Boeing junk and way more flexible with the many different levers to fit any aircraft you wish to fly. I ran across this thread and will buy the Alpha yoke in the next few minutes because the TCA just doesn't work for me personally on anything other than airliners. I hear the remarks on the stiffer pitch axis, and that is what I am looking for since purchasing the Hotstart Challenger 650. With 30 years experience in flight sim and flying everything you can imagine on cheaper yokes down through the years I am having hell landing the 650 with the TCA yoke and I believe it is due to the lighter pull on the TCA and the hinged effect, which is just not natural for anything but an airliner. This is just my opinion, but I sorely wish I had saved my money on the TCA and went Honeycomb all the way to start with. Good luck to all of you and whatever you choose, but you won't really know until you make the jump.

@TreFlip1992

Жыл бұрын

To confirm, you have the TCA Boeing yoke and the Honeycomb Bravo throttle quadrant as a setup? That's what I'm looking to purchase but I've been unable to verify anywhere that the 2 units are compatible with each other.

@fingerhorn4

Жыл бұрын

@@TreFlip1992 I confirm the TCA yoke and Honeycomb Bravo are perfectly workable together. Indeed I think they are the best possible combination, as the TCA yoke is in my opinion better than the push/pull Honeycomb yoke but the Honeycomb quadrant is MILES better than the total junk that is the TCA quadrant. Both devices will work together in MSFS.