Of course it's not going to want to go up an icy hill when you keep stopping and are afraid to hit the gas.

@ertatta

Жыл бұрын

I know, tommy should’ve been driving it.

@LanguagesWithAndrew

Жыл бұрын

@@ertatta Yup, I've repeatedly noticed that he's the only one who has a damned clue as to how to drive off-road.

@chrisnah6540

Жыл бұрын

I think that’s why Tommy got the Kia, he’s able to push it to its limits without damaging it. The Audi wasn’t going to make it much further with only 7 inches of ground clearance anyway.

@marcjampolsky5280

Жыл бұрын

Right? Start stop start stop on a hill with ice and snow? Wtf was that?

@rafalst

Жыл бұрын

True, but you have to remember that the car isnt theirs, so they dont want to risk damage it. He even said it on the video. You might have zoned out when he said it.

In snow, momentum is your friend. You guys keep stopping 1/2 way up in the deep and then throttle the vehicles. Keeping a steady pace is the way.

@onefastboi14

Жыл бұрын

This is the truth. I drive a RWD car in the winter with snow tires and Momentum is certainly key.

@dougmael

Жыл бұрын

YEP! That's my first point in the comment that I posted.

@marcjampolsky5280

Жыл бұрын

1000%

The Audi A6 allroad air Suspension goes one step higher then shown in the offroad mode in this video. The way to do it is to select offroad mode, then touch one time in the raise column(where you see the height column). Thats the way to unlock the fifth height increase. In this video the allroad is in height mode 4 of total 5(where 5 is the highest level). Winter tires, little more height and throttle would have helped alot with this quattro🙂. I have own severel, and they are truly great offroad wagons 👍 Test the Audi E-Tron S with three motors and good winter tires, truly a beast offroad and especially on dynamic winter driving (ice track with studded tires😎).. But remember the height column after you select offroad for best clearance in the wild. I personally own the E-Tron S tri motor and it is awesome in the snow and ice😎 Best regards from Norway(Hard winters)

Love the ranch but love to see you guys on the mountains again. You guys are awesome and enjoy all of your off road content... 🙂👍

@wannabeangler

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%! Back to basics every now and then is nice too.

@Ram14250

Жыл бұрын

I miss Tombstone Hill testing! Those were always good!

@paulsmith6327

Жыл бұрын

Goldmine Hill as well RIP

@andrewsmith9980

Жыл бұрын

They got to show the ranch for the tax write off. I bet the ranch is owned by TFL. Nothing wrong with that but they have to be able to prove utilization.

Ok. Credit to the KIA for keeping all 4 wheels spinning without killing power. Would like to see Telluride vs Hylander and Ascent in this scenario.

@mnolanco5599

Жыл бұрын

Subaru AWD will beat the Kia and Highlander any day.

@al151

Жыл бұрын

@@mnolanco5599there is no magic in Subaru AWD anymore. All manufacturers pretty much figured out how to distribute traction to all wheels. That was back in the day when Subaru was leading the pack.

@prestondeters5093

Жыл бұрын

​@@mnolanco5599 There's multiple videos out of people comparing modern Subarus to other vehicles and they get outperformed. For example, Driving Sports TV has numerous videos comparing different Subarus to other vehicles and they routinely get beat. A specific example is the Ford Bronco Sport against the Subaru Crosstrek. In their video there was no comparison, the Bronco Sport blew that crosstrek away.

@27Zangle

Жыл бұрын

@@mnolanco5599 Sorry to burst your bubble, but Subaru is not nearly good as it used to be. I am saying this as a Subaru fan. With a manual equipped car, you will be okay but the auto (CVT) systems are trash.

@ph.5063

Жыл бұрын

@@al151 Plus, Subaru with CVT compared to the KIA 8 speed will not deliver the power. They have a video with an Outback struggling. When Subaru did their wilderness trims they should have really focused on power and traction. The 3.6 flat 6 with an 8 or 10 speed auto would have been a good start. It's a shame because I have always loved Subaru. Ordered a Kia for the wife. We should have it in April.

I like when Roman makes himself vulnerable and reveals he's a hoarder (still has all his childhood toys). This channel with short-term ownership of vehicles is great therapy. I'm with you Roman pulling for you to be able to let go of things.😁😅🤣

@matthewprather7386

Жыл бұрын

Would be nice if Roman could learn to genuinely poke fun at himself as much as does his son and his most valued business partners.

This was a great presentation that would appeal to all enthusiasts. Best line, "How willing are you going to be when you possibly break or damage your own vehicle...."! BINGO! That's the meat & potatoes of it.

All that was missing in this, was Nathan gleefully sending it up hill in the Defender. 😁😁

Matt's Off-road Recovery will be pulling those KIA out a lot, I predict.

"the big hard boiled egg" really made me laugh. I thought it was a perfect analogy especially when you got to the defender

In the most recent podcast Roman said he loves hearing about us watching TFL on the weekends with our morning coffee, wanted to let you know Roman this Sunday I woke up early, stuck on some eggs and a pot of coffee with this episode on the TV! Great job love your content

@TFLoffroad

Жыл бұрын

Roman says 👍

@jordan4328

Жыл бұрын

My Sunday morning routine. Coffee and TFl 👍

@TheMeanmarine13

Жыл бұрын

Doing that right now ☕️

@lamentedZebra

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Great weekend routine 😊

@wannabeangler

Жыл бұрын

Funny you said that, I'm doing the exact same thing. Even if my mornings start around noon....lol

At least you called it that the biggest weakness for the Defender was the wimpy sidewalls. If you had wheels/tires with beefy sidewalls (I'm thinking more like going down to 16-17" wheels) you could have aired down and snoozed through all that.

Audi has always suprised me with their AWD system, I seen them plow thru snow like nothing, but yeah off roading like that I can see why you have to be careful way to expensive & obviously you don't want parts flying all over.

The world needs more wagons!

@ertatta

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more! Put taller more aggressive rubber and less wheel on the Allroad and it would’ve gone much further.

17:06 Andre looks like B.A. Baracus (Mr. T) driving the van on A-Team! lol Great video!

Roman - then why bring the Audi if you are too worried to test it hard? I get it that you don't want to break but, but what I don't get is including it in the video.

I think that Audi had a lot more to offer. Wish it had gotten a fair shake.

@marcjampolsky5280

Жыл бұрын

Agreed... Giving up at that point was annoying AF

The ranch is cool but I love seeing you on a trail.

I strongly believe the Telluride was more than capable for this test. My Sorento with all-season tires has gotten me up steeper hills that were unplowed.

What great vehicles. My price limit for an off roader is $30,000. Surely they come as used.

Really enjoying the videos lately, love the variety of content. Keep it up!

Good thing you abandoned the Audi test before it got scrambled. The Land Rover as expected went over easy.

@louisbabycos106

Жыл бұрын

I see what you did there

Great video, but it really shows the importance of wheel size and tyres. 22s on a Defender?🤯 Think I’ll stick with my current combo- Audi Q4 E-Tron on 20s for daily duties, and a Disco 2 TD5 on 18s if I need three rows (and a set of 16s for play time😜)🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@rushthezeppelin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I find it funny that he through 20s would be a massive improvement when he really needs ATs on 16s or 17s so that he can air down. That course would have been a snooze fest if they had done that.

It would have been awesome to see Nathan's Santa Cruz on this one! I'm considering the Santa Cruz 2.5 NA AWD but I am curious about its performance in the snow. The Santa Cruz would have given us a good sub 40k addition to this test.

@coolyjavon591

Жыл бұрын

santa cruz would be terrible with its transmission

@tpolerex7282

Жыл бұрын

I should call my buddy in Tahoe today about his new Santa Cruz to see how its snow performance has been, but I think he is completely snowed in and unless you have a snowplow no one is going anywhere. Even the ski resorts are closed!

@Malc664

Жыл бұрын

@@coolyjavon591 Nathan has the torque converter trans

@travisp11

Жыл бұрын

@@coolyjavon591 Nathans has the standard 6 speed, not the DCT.

@ph.5063

Жыл бұрын

@@coolyjavon591 I could be wrong, but I think the Santa Cruz has the same trans as the KIA (8 speed auto) Not DSG or CVT. And looks like that 8 speed was doing well.

Love these real word testes. Can't believe Andrey actually gave the LR the beans!!!

Can't believe how they drove that Audi freaking unbelievable...

I really like these kind of comparistions. Great to see all the different settings each manufacturer has for this type of conditions. I wonder how the 2023 Jeep Cherokee Track Hawk would do in these conditions, vs Defender

@chiemekaa

Жыл бұрын

You mean Trailhawk?

@ph.5063

Жыл бұрын

Track hawk? or did you mean Trailhawk. I agree that it would be nice to put one of the GC 4xe up against the Defender. Full comparison (cost, ride quality, interior, towing, 4x4 ability)

Showing LOVE for the channel thank you for another great video once again gentlemen. Have a blessed day everyone

Awesome testing and video!!!

The more I see videos like this, the more I adore my ‘04 Sequoia Limited. It will take me as far and maybe beyond what those brand new, expensive, fancy vehicles might go.

You made Audi look bad. Haha. But also drove it respectfully and like someone that works hard for there money might. Thanks Guys !! I'd never think to buy one of these but it's interesting

Sunday mornings with TFL. Can’t beat it

Love the show it’s the first thing I look forward to watching on Sunday mornings.💯👍

The Nathan method prevails! Good job Andre! Haha

I've driven an old Mercedes 307 (not a sprinter the old square shape no turbo diesel) for miles on the A19 uk , more snow on the floor n snowing so hard I had to use my flask of coffee to thaw out the frond windscreen less bother than you're having here.

fair assessments of all 3 cars. this helps me with narrowing down my decision on which car i want to buy.

Would of been cool to compare a more capable audi like a q7 or q8

Outstanding test! Really shows the difference within the segment

Yeah I do get on Sunday and tfl is the first thing in the morning. Thanks guys for the content.

I have the 2023 x-line Telly. Lifted 2 inches with an aggressive off road tire on 18s. Hasn't failed yet

These are good videos to watch after a day at work.

The Land Rover is brilliant when it works 👍

I want one of the coats that Roman is wearing! LOL......love the color and the TFL logo.

@ertatta

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, couldn’t tell if it’s Columbia, Mountain Hardware, or Eddie Bauer

@markderoller7645

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Where can I get one?

@rodgood

Жыл бұрын

@@markderoller7645 your nearest Polaris dealership .

Snow tests should include the vehicle's ability to make multiple stops on the uphill and downhill stages. Real-world snowy road conditions have the driver sharing the road with cars that "get stuck" and have to back down or otherwise be avoided by the test 4x4. Davison Road at Mammoth Mountain after a snow dump is a real-world challenge. Downhill traction control and Hill Descent must also pass "the test."

Once again, Roman brings a vehicle to a place he knows he won't drive it.(for all the right reasons) So why bring it at all? To make the point on camera (again)that you should not? IF one has NEVER watched ANY TFL videos and this was the 1st time EVER watching and wanting to know if the Audi is worth buying for a family hauler up the ski slopes to a cabin on non plowed roads, the answer is no. Outside of that, the best advice is to buy something "affordable" with AWD or 4WD, put on snow tires with "chains" and bobs your uncle. End of debate.

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

the Audi is perfectly suited as family car and to get up non plowed winter roads, or to drive on dirt roads etc, it's just not a suitable car for offroad paths and trails because you don't need that over in Europe

Need to do the same test with a 2023 Pilot Trailsport! Honda AWD is always superior to Kia and the 2023 trail sport has underbody protection

Was really impressive with my old mk1 V60 cross country. With some all seasons it was pretty much all the car you'd want

@27Zangle

Жыл бұрын

I would love to buy one as a winter vehicle but worried about reliability.

@ckm-mkc

Жыл бұрын

I had an XC70 and it was brilliant with a set of mild AT tires - it went a lot of places you would only see Jeeps or lifted trucks, much to people's surprise. We told them we got lost on the way to yoga.... But seriously, Volvo makes a bunch of accessories for these cars (like skid plates) that make them more capable. Finally sold it to get something with better gas mileage - it got around 24mpg combined. Was replaced with diesel Jag F-Pace that gets 38mpg, but is likely not as much of a tank.

You have to drive that Audi like they are meant to be driven, I.e. harder and with less trepidation and it would go right up that hill. A Q7 which is more similar to this two will keep up with the Rover.

I just tested the AWD on my Escalade. Definitely surprising

Thank You🎉👍👏🙏👌

Didn't Audi want to give their car a fighting chance and at least provide it on winter tires?

I want to move there! This looks amazing, to drive or hike.

Oh come on guys! 13:40 - it's all about proper tyres. AllSeasons or AllTerrains are not meant to perform in snow or ice.

The amount of people that think their crossover with "adventure" trim can handle off-roading is quite scary.

It would be nice to see how a proper quattro with the torsen center diff and the rear sport diff(audi electronicaly controled mechanical lsd or tvd) would do. The current a6 allroad, doesnt have the legendary audis quattro system anymore

@trletts

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, throw a SQ5 with the air suspension/sport package into this.

@loukasantoniou8054

Жыл бұрын

@@trletts or an sq8 with similar packadge

Buhanka! Should have taken the Buhanka as well! Great video thank you!

When I had a Telluride, the mud terrain worked better in the snow than the slippery/snow mode.

@rushthezeppelin

Жыл бұрын

I've heard similar with the Ford Maverick that snow mode was the best for sand.

Put a proper winter tyre and repeat the test...

Medium is the Allroad. Kia is the soft road imho. The original A6 had locking diffs and low gear in the manual version. Proper tires and that would give the LR a run for its money.

I feel you are still the overall best channel that tests off-road vehicles, but the other channels seem to push theirs a little harder during testing. While you guys quit and say, "I'm driving an $82,000 vehicle, I can't push it," they say, "I'm driving an $82,000 vehicle, so I need to be a little careful going up this hill." They get closer to the showing the full capabilities of the vehicles they are testing, whereas you stop short many times in your way of testing. Still, overall good job and good comparison.

That is why cars like the Kia are so popular.

@FrankySilverFace

Жыл бұрын

Seeing all 4 wheels working was impressive.

@tarheel4wd

Жыл бұрын

I wish Tommy had gotten some momentum with the Kia. Putt'n up a hill in snow isn't the way you do it. The Kia awd system seems to work very well.

@wannabeangler

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention relatively inexpensive. More bang for your buck.

@tarheel4wd

Жыл бұрын

@@wannabeangler yeah it's damn nice for the money. 😅 Which is still expensive compared to what cares used to cost.

@arkhsm

Жыл бұрын

@@tarheel4wd Not enough clearance !!

I cannot believe the Audi costs 82k or the prices of the others. The car mfgs are out of their minds. Instead of getting a new car every 3 years, I'll be getting one every 5 to 7 years.

So how capable is my bone stock 2020 Ram 1500 Laramie 22” rims, how much more capable would it be with 18” rims and Mickey Thompson Baja boss AT tires?

Nobody gets a Telluride for 55. Demand is so high and the waiting list is long. The dealer markups on Tellurides are among the highest of any vehicle anywhere. 55 isn't even in the same time zone as what you'll pay.

Great stuff! At $80k+ I want my SUV to not only eat the dirt but the snow as well! But then again if I had that kind of money, I wouldn't be worried about scuffing it up.

I'm bummed that we haven't seen more done with the WL Grand Cherokee. Seems it'd be up y'all's alley.

I bet tommy wishes he was driving a 4runner trd. Off road. Lol

all season tires? Who would choose those on snow and ice?

Are we really surprised as which one would make it?

Low range is not your friend here. Wheel speed and momentum in the snow and sand.

Where did Tommy get that Land Rover coat?! I want one!!

I can not stress this enough. TIRES, TIRES, TIRES, TIRES. If you put the very same brand and model of tires on each of these vehicles, they would perform nearly identical, aside from ground clearance. So I reject this review as accurate. I owned a 2015 Chrysler 200C AWD for about 6 years including in Kentucky where we once had a dump of 28" of snow that I plowed through with no issues as well as in Utah where I once again went anywhere I wanted to with the correct all weather tires.

I'm on my forth Audi with quattro AWD, and one of them was an A6 allroad. I think your fear of damaging the car was hurting your effort. Totally understandable, but I could have done better having owned one for four years.

Ya this is a real pickle!!!!❤

Nice video guys. I love the Audi AllRoad but let's be honest, it's way out of its element. Now replace the all-season tires with snow tires and driving snow covered tarmac should be no problem.

Love the blue coat

Roman it must be a age thing because you & I are close to the same age & I still have a lot of my toys from my childhood. Still have battery operated trucks that I would take the batteries out when I got finished playing with them.

The money you save on the Rover you could put into lift and wheels. I love my wife’s Palisade but the large wheels and sport tyres make it awful when the roads are bad.

Matt Watson from CarWow already proved any car can go through snow if it can get enough traction through better tires.

The Audi could have made it up that entire hill, as well as the kia. Not sure why you even brought the Audi to drive it 1 foot and then say the classic "I don't want to damage it" line. So you're not actually going to test it or show us anything? ok, leave it out than.

@unholierhawk

Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of other content videos showing Audi in deeper snow then the hill they went up..

I'm curious about the Telluride with the Truxxx 2.5" lift and a little bit taller tires

@ALMX5DP

Жыл бұрын

Goodness 2.5” spacer lift? I bet droop travel goes to zero with that lol

@Wheelman1966

Жыл бұрын

I would take a mild lifted Telluride with better tires over a Land Rover any day of the week. They are super impressive for the price and likely much more reliable long term.

I don’t have a cabin so I guess I don’t need to worry about it

Take a look under that Kia. It’s not meant to go anywhere off-road. Compare it to a Jeep Grand Cherokee or 4 Runner on a hoist and it’s clearly visible.

Now like that y’all back at the trail need use it’s more often

These are the best type of videos you guys produce. Just Nathan is missing

I enjoy watching the off road snow excursions because I own an AWD Hemi 300C and Hemi Citadel that are comparable in performance to the Audi and Kia in terms of "off road" snow capability. I live vicariously through the videos. Lol. Thanks for the content!

I wonder how my GX460 would do in that !

@joshgonzalez2112

Жыл бұрын

Very similar to the defender probably.

@ertatta

Жыл бұрын

Piece of cake if you modify or get rid of that dumb front air damn

Like Andre said....childs play...!! Get on it.., that Audi can drive those flat snow covered roads... !!

This test just says get winter tires

All season tires are not meant for any country road in winter.

HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️

Needs at least 3 inches of airlift and 18" with taller sidewall and more aggressive peak rated all terrain .

Can you please test RAV4 hybrid AWD system on rolling racks? Thanks

What would you recommend for overlanding and long road trips? I don't want to dump of a bunch of gas on my trips. Favorite spot (and the one we're commited to perform at) is 100 miles from the nearest ccs charger, an EA station. So non tesla EVs are out. With the wait list on cybertrucks, those are out too. I have a plug and would totally go EV if I could. Need a vehicle that can comfortably sleep 2. Most of the good off roaders get like 20mpg if your lucky.

Okay guys. The telluride is nice, but as nice as the rover? Come on

I think Tommy was too soft on the Kia but I can only see what the video seems to show. Was the KIA really “given the beans” like the Defender? What is evident is the Defender was driven much harder to make it up the course. But that’s just my opinion. BTW, I watch all your videos and am a fan.

A fair test would have had them all on the same all terrain tires

I want to see that Telluride xpro go head to head against Bronco Sport

What brand gloves is Roman wearing?

Why bring a car to a test if you’re not willing to test it?

@louisbabycos106

Жыл бұрын

Subaru