Ahh the sweet signs of aging and realizing that modifying cars is a worse financial decision than buying a better standard OEM performance car for the same money :D I remember the good old days when you bought the car you wanted because you liked it and then spent as much money as it took to get it where you visioned it. I am at a point now that I dont know if I want to do anything to my Accord Euro, because I dont think any of it will be worth the energy and money. And that makes me sad because thats the reasoning of an old man trapped in a not that young body.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's very much the situation I'm in now

@tantofumo5527

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a choice Yes, there’s probably better cars out there but I still have to find a gorgeous, practical and fun car to have for the same era as the accord euro (throw away thoso recaro sits, for a daily use they’re awful)

@benjaminwingchun9665

2 жыл бұрын

Do it if she's a keeper

@HashDogg06

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife Dude! you are to young to be going through that phase yet, might as well go find a woman, buy a house & make some kids then.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

@@HashDogg06 hahah maybe it is that time

It's a beauty and a beast. When you sitting behind that wheel. The thought of the costs just disappear and yes coming from a 3 time bmw owner. I spent more on those 3 bmw's without adding any mods and still remember those cost heartbreakingly. The past 3 years with my accord is a bliss. The accord takes a beating any time, any day and will still get you to work everyday... not the best car yes but certainly a great car.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah agree

I absolutely love the CL9, it's reliable, it looks absolutely amazing inside and out, it has comfortable and sure handling, it's well featured and it's decently easy to work on. Sure it sucks to spend lots of money on your car and still know you can be smoked by the mum in the commodore next to you, but if you can enjoy your car for what it is and the work you've done to it, I think that means a lot.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah absolutely it's a good car, but I think I'm about ready for an upgrade

I own a 2006 TSX and I love it for 2 reasons....the style, and the reliability. It is closing on 420,000 km.

@KiwiCarLife

11 ай бұрын

Very nice

I love that VTEC crossover sound, it never gets old!

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah it's good aye

This is why I left the Honda scene, after owning a modded CL9 myself, the total money you spend you end up wanting more and so many other cars do that better for overall cheaper. In summary, they are good cars stock but when you mod it for power it you still get walked all over by a mum in their V6 Camry. Focus on handling and suspension and enjoy it for what it is, a reliable daily

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly

@hondamanvtec2894

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Wrong A Turbo an 450hp You be having fun with most things on the road

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

@@hondamanvtec2894 yes but his point is for the same money as you would have spent buying and turboing an accord, you could have just bought a tuned 135i and it'll be just as fast

@dennisarnott9854

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my point yeah sure you can turbo a Honda but then what if you upgraded your turbo on the equivalent S3 or 135i?

@tantofumo5527

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife but not as cool

Love the video man, always wanted a cheap euro r but you’re right about there being better options for your money. So surprised this is a kiwi car channel with the great production quality, detail and editing! Definitely subbed and keen for more videos :)

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Glad you're enjoying the content

Every car has it's pros and cons. You buy a car and modify it because you like the platform, you like to tinker, you like it to look a little different. It's what being a car enthusiast is all about imo. If it brings you joy then it's worth every dollar. I'm quite happy to drive a 20 year old Corolla because it's as reliable as the Sun and very practical.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man and I'm super happy with mine for sure

I'm happy with my 06 TSX, it's auto but same bolt ons and tune like yours. I've managed to surprise a lot of cars, I knows it's not the fastest but it holds its own for a 4 banger. Parts are more affordable and the car looks amazing for it's age.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah defo man

I've bought my CL9 for $2500 USD. I repainted the car myself. I have the basic bolt on and did the work myself. Saved a lot of money on labor and you learn more about the car. I'm working on getting Hondata installed. Then changing cam shafts & gears, with valve springs and retainers. I've spent under 10k USD total.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah being in the US or europe where parts are a lot cheaper

Get a larger rear sway bar in the CL9 and you'll bring the chassis alive. The turn in will be significantly better and less roll

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that would be a good idea but im happy enough with it

@tantofumo5527

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a pic?

Great video, I love my CL9 accord. It’s one of the last great cars Honda made. I feel the accord may not be fast in the straight line. It’ll keep with those cars you listed on the backroads/track if set up right.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's very true

Great video.. given the current prices in Aus (Tassie in particular) I have been contemplating modyifing my CL9 6spd manual... and Can honestly say... your video was no help lol just made me more confused haha. jokes aside.. good content mate!

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I guess I'd say treat it as a stepping stone car, with an idea in mind to do what you want to have fun with the car, but have another upgrade in mind for the future. I am so stoked with how my car has turned out, but I definitely don't plan to keep it forever put it that way. There are other cars out there that are also excellent

@elliottb7009

2 жыл бұрын

the manuals are generally more of the base model cars. the lux version are kitted out nicely, facelift a bit moreso. heater leather seats, sunroof, HID lights, sport rims, foglights. sat nav maybe. but they are generally auto if you want to manual swap that.

Well I’ve bought my 2006 honda accord as a project car as I’ve retired early and life is too short to drive boring cars. For $5500,00 I have a registered and RWC luxury car that is a 5 speed manual ( rare as hens teeth here in Australia ) a K-24 engine that has flash tune,carbon fibre intake,coil overs,twin performance exhaust system,and a few other goodies that is going to be a blast to drive and own.

@KiwiCarLife

5 ай бұрын

Very nice!

Love the k24 I’ve done budget frank build on standard ecu reflashed spent bout 8k the car and all the mods I haven’t changed gear ratios I bought fidanza flywheel with hybrid racing short shift really nice set up managed to get on dyno 247bhp 179torque which I’m happy with the numbers your car is lovely by the way

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man and nice car!

@yourummayscuz8521

Жыл бұрын

What’s your mod list?

got my 04 prefacelift manual for 4700 :) garaged all its life, one owner, nz new. serge bo tune 450$, lowering springs and install ~1000$, euro R wheels $300, tints $325.. pretty happy for money invested so far

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah nice sounds like you got a good deal

They aren't brilliant at any one particular thing but the sum of it's parts is what make the Gen7 Accord Euro great. (even it's size and aesthetics compare favourably to the Gen8) These cars do everything so well. Fuel economy is being left behind by two decades of advancement but is acceptable when the low purchase price and reliability is factored in.

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

Yep

Hey Liam, great indepth video as always... Im 17 and i have my restricted license with conditions for only driving auto cars. I have always loved the accord and have found one with the k24 and auto transmission. How is the 5sp auto transmission in the euro accord if you have driven one?

@surenberugoda161

2 жыл бұрын

He’s done a review of an automatic accord euro a few vids back :)

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the autos are good

My previous generation accord actually saved my life. It was so "heavy" that it saved my life when i crashed. The guy from the carsemetary said if i would have been in a more modern car of the same size- ligther cars- aluminium i would have not survived the impact... so long live honda accord '98,build like a tank

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear you're ok, but cars being "built like tanks" or "heavy" is actually the reason why so many people still die in crashes. Sure, modern cars will look mangled after a decent smash, but they're designed to crumple in all the right places to protect you.

@krisc6644

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife not at 100km/hour into a tree,then you are happy that the hood is 20kg. But okay,everybody there own opinion,the carcemetary had accidents at the same speed with more modern cars,he didn't say it for nothing. He had a lot of cars where people in the same way died. I know about krumple zones, but an accord of 98 had a decent krumple zone also,and airbags,its just that the materials used are heavier.if it wasn't so in my case the three would have been where i was sitting. The roof was bended and the rear bumper was totaled from the impact(fiberglass) just to give you an indication how hard the crash was

Nice twist. Couldn't agree more, yet I'm enjoying mine too much to listen to the voice of reason here, hah. I'll finish building mine for commutes to work and look for a 'proper' sports car like the DC5 Integra or an 86 later on.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yep and you'll absolutely enjoy it!

@xenonsaccord4447

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife Thanks mate, appreciate your time.

why do I keep watching these vids even though I sold my CL9 5 years ago and left the Honda gang :(

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Haha good to see you're staying involved

are you able to do a video at some point on the 2.3l manual mazda 6/atenza?

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah got an mps video in the works

Bro for your next review you should try get ya hands on a holden sv6 paddle shift

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

True that would be interesting to check out

Got my manual CL9 for $3,000 AUD 3 months ago with no issues. Best value vehicle I've owned apart from my DC2 Vti-r that I got for $2,000

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

I understand your statements about the chord, I had the same and with a lot of money invested in it .. although I think the main problem today is that people do not know what they want, and there are no good car mechanics, it all leads to factors of disappointment and frustration. I also drove a lot of Hondas and other cars and I went back to Honda again. why? because in the end when I add it all up and subtract what those other cars provide for me, Honda is the best choice. of course, for that money. bmw, golf, audi, american v6 v8 v10 can be fast series but certainly not for maintenance like honda, I know first hand because I have in the family audi a6 we had bmw325, bmw 420, mazda mps3 turbo, renault multiple models and so on. I drove a Alfa Romeo, Audi, Mercedes, Golf GTI, etc. In the end, since I have friends who are in motorsport and I have some kind of experience around cars, I chose Honda for reasons of maintenance, after market, support and reliability. of course i love how he drives and how he behaves on the road. it's not the fastest or the best but it gives me a smile on my face and I'm satisfied, that's the point in the end.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man I'm a bit the same - have driven heaps of different cars but keep coming back to Hondas

If your ever needing a clutch replacement, have you ever considered copping a lightweight flywheel? Could help with rev hangs, but I'm not sure how it would impact daily driving in traffic etc.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've heard lightened flywheels make these things worse to drive for normal daily stuff so I don't think I'll bother. My clutch is all good

Forced induction is the answer :) With a turbo you do not need to change gear box ratios for a start, as a turbo is happy to pull through gears and longer gears can be beneficial for it. With my car I am still deciding to turbo or not and have not touched the engine, I have only done an intake resonator delete and a K&N filter in the stock airbox, meanwhile I have done the suspension and wheels, with a little bit of stance, it looks stealthy and nice, car is grey with dark tint (I love it) probably wont do a body kit, maybe the front lip though, so if I did a turbo kit on it, that would be a really sweet sleeper and that in itself is interesting to me. 400hp in a euro, that would do what? low 12 to high 11 sec quarter miles? and decimate all the cars you mention. So saving money on all the not important stuff such as headers, an expensive exhaust (as turbos are quieter anyway), cold air intake kit, cams and cam gears, intake manifolds, porting, throttle body and all that stuff you do to N/A cars for, lets face it, not a lot of extra power for the money spent. Turbo is still a big expense and will need LSD and a better clutch but I feel it is far more worth it for the gains you get and a stock K24 in good nic can make up to 500hp. See Humble Performance KZread channel for inspiration on how they do their customer cars turbo kits. A lot of these European cars you mention are great but hey man, if you have a problem with an Audi, that will be big bucks to fix, sensors alone are absurdly expensive and them cars will have problems at some point. Honda ultimate reliability, cheap to run. With all that being said, I am considering saving up to get the new Nissan Z if it turns out to be good enough... lol. keep up the good work bruh! I enjoy your vids :)

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure a turbo would be great, but you're talking 10k for that setup here in NZ, plus the car, plus all the supporting mods. So basically it'll probably cost upwards of $25k. And I'd be confident I could make an M135i faster than a turbo K24 for less.

@karmadelic1

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife Bro, turbo noises from an accord.... PRICELESS :) I got a bit excited in my post and failed to mention the main reason I have not turbo my car yet and that is, finding a good tuner you can trust and knows k series engines really well, I don't think I can find anyone here in South Straya that I can trust but if I get serious I will make some inquiries, also there is legality and Insurance. If you have a Euro and want to keep and love it, then instead of spending $1000's on all the bolt on mods and junk, go turbo was my idea. I also absolutely adore the 1 series coupes but I would never buy one unless I had money to burn. Didn't realise the prices in NZ for a Euro had jumped up so much, here in Straya they are still pretty much unloved and can pick them up cheap. I have had mine for 3 years and went all the way to Tasmania to get it and drove it back, car was 140k km almost mint condition and I paid 6.2k In the end it comes down to what you want out of a car really, I have always preferred custom unique cars.

I'm in South Africa and I started following u accord build as I am really interested in purchasing 1. I think it is a well all rounded car. The reason why I would like to own 1 is that I have a family and I need space and I don't want to compromise having fun in the car and. I still want to pull up and car shows with my daddy mobile and since all my friends race at least I will be able to keep up

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and for that it'll serve you very well!

hi curious over the K20 vs K24 like you state the K20 har more power so in which Honda accords do this motor reside? Cheers from Sweden :-)

@KiwiCarLife

15 күн бұрын

Euro R, only available in Japan but there’s heaps imported here in nz

I just got a stock 2008 Acura TSX I want to add the euro r conversion body kit but I can’t seem to find an already painted parts is there anywhere you recommend to go look or do you have somewhere in mind

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't have a clue sorry

You should try and review a twin turbo gtb or B4 twin turbo, well under 10 grand with plenty of manuals around

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's true man they'd be really good

The MPS 3 is probably the best bang for buck JDM performance car you could probably get especially with the aftermarket mods it has and the value there getting upto.... I've had 2 MPSs (brought my 2nd one after my 1st was stolen)

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

I suppose yeah

@Vitoskux

Жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife I mean what else is there that is less than 10-15years old, factory turbo manual and cost under 15k...... Everyone shits on them alot but I could put 10-12k into forging my motor, bigger turbo, tune etc and put out 350-400whp for half the price of a Evo/sti.

I know what you’re talking about, I’ve spent almost 6k in performance mods for my fn2 and i make 135wkw ! On the other hand my mates Mk7 gti makes like 200wkw with just a tune that cost 1.2k, we may not spend money on repairs like euro guys but they spend way less to make power.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly

@HashDogg06

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's easy when there's a turbo already stuck to the side from factory, take any N/A engine & start modifying it without going forced induction & the results are going to be expensive & disappointing compared to forced induction, if you like sporty N/A performance then you won't care about being walked by a twin turbo 3 liter BMW like he stated which has about 70hp & probably double the torque more than his Accord, i mean WTF do you expect!

This Honda euro model is more beautiful and compact than the American Specs. Kudos 💯🔥

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a bit smaller than the US one

Hey Mate, can you please remind what type of accesory front bumper you have? Its not type S? Thanks

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

It's a modulo body kit that came with the car from new

Great video mate. As a Euro owner, I would have to say that they are not "reasonably reliable", they are absolute tanks. I have driven mine like I stole it for the last 10 years and it hasn't missed a beat!

@KiwiCarLife

8 ай бұрын

Depends, I’ve heard some people have a lot of issues but yeah mostly they’re pretty solid

@williamgrounds6911

8 ай бұрын

Oh wow. I guess it goes to show that you can never be sure with reliability!

@skrk6

7 ай бұрын

@@williamgrounds6911 My Luxury model's been reliable like yours and driven pretty hard as well. Had it for nearly 6 years now and around 140,000 km. Lots of people bought the same car at my old work and they were turds though. Major oil leaks, messed up tints, slipping auto transmissions. Basically if they've been neglected at some stage they don't bounce back as well as some other makes.

I guess I got lucky I bought my 2006 JDM Type S badged accord for only 2700NZD, spent 300 for a new windscreen and less than 100 on random bits and pieces that were missing. All it needs now is a new o2 sensor and a panel repair (or another door) and ill have a good condition Type S all for less than $4500. Crazy how only a couple months after I bought mine in early 2021 the prices have skyrocketed to well over 6-7k for an OK condition one and 8-11k for a good condition!

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man you bought at the perfect time!

@tantofumo5527

2 жыл бұрын

I’m so jealous that I hate you right now 😒 😂

Lol, the cheapest part of my cu2 was the car, brought timing chain, windscreen, and tires, and it runs like a top.......you have guessed it was cheap, but to be honest, it's the nicest car I have owned, and is seriously fun to drive

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah as a "nice" car it's great aye

Hey dude, I reckon you should start making track videos.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah there'll be another track day video in september

I have an 08 and all i love is how i safe petro also takes me to A n B.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's good aye

I have a usdm 04 accord autotrans would it be better if i engine swapped it with type s or tsx 08?

@KiwiCarLife

10 ай бұрын

Tsx 08

I suppose if you managed to get it in that $4000-6000 price point; MT/AT and pop the classic relflash/springs/wheels/ etc you'll still have a very decent comfortable car fpr well under 10k. I guess to achieve that Stage 1 and it usually is far better than the competition; like you said. The stage you've brought it has climbed the ranks and you've pretty much pushed it to like a stage 3/final stage spec where it's faster than a EuroR. Too be beating some of the cars you're beating is crazy but like you've send you've really gone to extreme financial lengths to achieve it. So that happy medium imo is keeping you're euro under 10k spent.

@Esdru221

2 жыл бұрын

For beat any NA type R you only need reflash, intake and headers in a cl9... that are 1k, is not that much. Then spend another 2k in coilovers, stability bar, light wheels, good tires, polyurethane silentblocks and a good alignment and you even have a better handling car than a type R atleast for the streets. It's a very grateful cat with mods, that's the good thing of this model.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes agree, it's a good stepping stone car

CL9 will forever be my number 1

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

It is a very good car

would you recommend the Euro for someone who just wants a daily with a bit of speed (want body mods but not engine mods)

@KiwiCarLife

10 ай бұрын

Yeah absolutely man

So ....... should I mod my Blade Master? Combine the wallowy suspension with even more than the 206kW?

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Up to you man, not sure there's much aftermarket support and it'll always be held back by the suspension design and gearbox but it could make for a bit of a mean machine!

I'm going to keep mine. It will be vintage later on😁

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Haha eventually maybe

The real issue with euro R models nowadays isn't the price so much as the condition. I've shopped around for a few and most are knackered. At $20k it's getting silly. You can now get a golf R 2015 for $30k...

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my point. And frankly the euro's aren't all that unreliable these days

what would you say is the best automatic and fast/fun car in the 10K price range

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Accord type s, golf GTI, bmw 130i, bmw Z4 e85, Lexus is350, skyline 350gt all sorts

The Mazda 6's 2.3 duratec can produce very impressive numbers N/A with the right modifications.

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes

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@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

All good

Ahh I got a Euro R with bolt-ons and tunes for 10k three months ago, you can still find them at lower prices, people listing for 20k are definitely not selling at those prices.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Oh I dunno man all the cheaper ones are really high ks

I like your car my friend♥️👌

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks

is 2008 Honda Accord type S 2.0 K20A 233k km for 3500 Euro consider a Good deal?

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

Ehh, surely you can get a 2.4 for that? The 2.0L will be slow

What do you get fuel wise per 100km

@KiwiCarLife

5 ай бұрын

About 9L/100km

The rest of the world got super unlucky with the CL9's gearing but at least you have no sunroof! Some of the serious guys spend a bit of money and time swapping non-sunroof roof skins over on their TSXs Like most good and loved hondas, the CL9 is a fun car but not the fastest in it's class. A well sorted naturally aspirated E90 3-series in manual is worth a serious look if you're looking at a CL9, but comes with it's own set of drawbacks. What engine is in your Z4?

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes exactly - a manual N52B30 anything would be literal perfection. My Z4 is a B25

What was that chewing gum add in Australia with 'Liz"?

@KiwiCarLife

9 ай бұрын

I dunno?

You think buying a deregister 2001 Integra is a good idea?

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

No

Full Turbo kit will supporting mods and tuned on your accord, then that will be fair comparison to more powerful sports cars , c.a.i - exhaust and reflash ECU , gearbox ect not a fair comparison to this other cars , keep the positive vibes . haters gone hate , you can build a super honda accord turbo and blast the doors off a super car people still going to cry about something.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly, but the problem is it costs a lot of money to get an accord to that point... And are you better off just buying a GTI or 335i or something else factory turbo?

@afrospartanwarrior531

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife yeah I get it , but I think it's worth it cause majority of people in those types of sports cars expect to blizt most cars when modified especially a honda, so it's gold to see the look on their face when they get blizted by a honda and start making excuses 😂.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

@@afrospartanwarrior531 Yes that's very true haha

The transmission slipping issues in honda accord 2003 models are really suck

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

I think you might be talking about the V6 ones? Accord Euros don't usually have those problems as far as I'm aware

@dhammathuta5946

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife Not V6 one , I have Honda accord cl9 2002 2.4TL and transmission failure after 150000km and need to replace gearbox and it costs me around 500 bucks to replace used one. And most of the car manufacturered from 2002-2004 models have a failure.

@dhammathuta5946

2 жыл бұрын

Anyway I love I-vetc❤️

Yeah this is why i went with the cm2 instead. Bit heavier but THE BOOT SPACE. Buying those euro cars used might look appealing on value. But they are so unreliable..

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah absolutely man the cm2 is so spacious

@The_Noticer.

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife Lot more so than modern wagons, because of the boxy-shape. You can stack stuff up to the lid, cause the roof doesn't taper. Cost me 5K for initial purchase and another 5K for repairs and mods. (PLM headers, Injen CIA, brakes, tires, rust/body work). The previous owner neglected it pretty bad, i must say. I had to spend more on it than I originally wanted.. :(

If I had to choose something else then the IS350 Is the way to go

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

Problem is the transmission

In Australia v35 gt350 are the same price as accord euros.

@KiwiCarLife

5 ай бұрын

Same here

I have an American Honda Accord Hybrid with 200 hp.. 0-100 in 6.1 sec… faster than any car in its class and higher classes, not to mention the impeccable reliability…

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Dang obviously your ones have a different drivetrain to ours

Mate, the cars you mentioned are not faster than cl9 modified with bolt ons. Only the 335i and not every 335i because most of them are dead meat. I drive cl9 with k20/k24 setup, fn2 head + intake and hondata + all bolt ons and ep3 gears. 6k euro total for parts. Is it worth? Yes ofc, in a world of turbocharged cars, driving 8k banger n/a is somethin else.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely, and parts are naturally cheaper overseas than here... but in NZ, making enough power in an accord to beat anything factory turbo will end up costing way more. Now I've always maintained that the Accord is not about speed and power, but there are a lot of great, affordable cars out there these days...

Thats the thing isnt it, you keep going until you realised you've overcaptialised. For a lot of countries once you go beyond basic bolt on's (or even bolt on's) insurance became a big problem, especially for the younger people who's insurance rates are bad to start with. One might find it's cheaper to insure a WRX/GTi/S4 than a Honda (thanks to young un's crashing those, premium skyrocketed)

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's true

Unbreakable

@KiwiCarLife

Ай бұрын

Yes

Just bought a 2006 lux manual PFL with low k's for 6k aud

@KiwiCarLife

3 ай бұрын

That’s good man!

Guys, if you want a FWD 4 door saloon that can surprise people... buy yourself (don't laugh) a 2005-2009 Volvo S60 T5 with 6 speed manual box. Why the Volvo? It's simple: - the 2.4 T5 engine came with 260bhp /350nm STOCK & limited to 155mph - A Stage 1 remap will give 320bhp, with room for more mods, block can handle it. - 5 cylinder snarl - The best seats ever - Much better,plusher solid interior than the Honda, - Extremely good stereo (13 speaker Dolby) - Doesnt rust like the Honda - Engine will do very high mileages - Flying under the radar because it's a Volvo. - With a stage 1 tune, these cars are VERY quick, go look on youtube!! Volvo S60 T5 "BSR" remap.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Good car, they don't exist here though

@paul--b

2 жыл бұрын

Rust isn’t an issue in most NZ conditions on resonably modern cars.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

@@paul--b yeah unless they live by the sea

@HeikkiHeiskanen

2 жыл бұрын

Mainly it is discarded because of its has huge co2 emissions and fuel consumption. Also volvos are expensive to fix when something goes boom.

but if you bought a let's say reliable 335i for 20k, you'd probably end up spending 10k modifying it also, maybe 20k swapping bigger turbos😂. then you would have a 20k car that cost 30 to 40k. Moding any car is always like that, unless you're happy with a simple stage 1 tune and not swapping any parts(which does quite a bit on a turbo or supercharger). So you've really got to only do that to cars you're keeping forever.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly

I get it You’re bored You’ve already done all that was do do on your car (performance wise while keeping it original) But damn, don’t say something like that That’s an outstanding car and I saw one on Twitter that managed to keep they accord to almost to a million miles If I could keep mine to keep half that much while modified as you did yours ( yes, the gear ratio can be annoying sometimes, and that’s much all I could change) I don’t think I’d feel the need to buy another car Drive others, for curiosity and even have others for praticar use, yes, but as a daily user I love this car Sound ✅ Looks ✅ Quality ✅ And most important of all Ya it’s a 2003 design That’s insane

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes maybe you're right... time for an S2000!

@tantofumo5527

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife I dare you to last 2 years with that

With 8k you could get a low mileage MPS6 here in Europe!

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

8k pounds? Or nzd?

@kiandacoda6577

Жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife Euros!

In my opinion, its definitely way above average, urs is like 150 kw on the wheels and it can keep up with 330i legacy blade etc even though it has like 50 less hp But yea all oldish and old hondas are just overpriced af coz people have noticed how crazy good they are for their previous values.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yep totally

Euro R 🚗💨 💪🏻😎💪🏻

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they're great aye

Driving in Wellington?

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@resolved2948

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife oh I live in welly and I literally bought an accord after watching ur vids

Still can't fathom you didn't do an LSD while the box was out etc lol

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly it just doesn't make enough power and I don't drive it hard enough to need it. Would've cost an extra $1000 for a used LSD (if I could even find one...) Only time I ever notice one wheel peel is when its wet, otherwise it's all good

I go for turbo cars. Plus you are getting what you pay for.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

In some cases yes

nonetheless i still love it

@KiwiCarLife

4 ай бұрын

Correct

Been competily sincerely bro, you have spend a huuuge amount of money and not even have a great thing in terms of preparation... First of all, here in Europe we don't have the accord euro R or civic FD2 either. Here we have cl9 and EP3 and FN2, which are around 10k euros. Cl9's are around 2-5k 03-05 models and 5-8k 06-07 models. You can just buy one of this for around 4k, spend around 5-6k and have a very muuuch competent and fast car than a NA type R and every car you can buy for 10k. I mean, the fact that you have spend 20k in that accord is blowminding, and at end of the day, only have reflash, intake, headers+exhaust and type R gears

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes agree, part of the issues and counterarguments I seem to be getting on this video is that these cars are a lot cheaper to buy and modify overseas...

Why shouldnt buy it....? Cause gasoline too expensive for an even economic 2.4 engine, i am oldschool i love my cl9 and dont care if a 335 BMW let me 3 or even 4 cars behind, Accord has character its not just a random car. I bought 3 accords last 4-5 years, first one was a cl7 2.0l non vtec and got so dissapointed and had to get one with VTEC so i sold it and bought a cl9 which unfortunately was just abused and the owner didnt took care of it, he sold it to me with head gasket damaged and warped cyl head and block, it was a money pit, so i took the parts from it and bought my 3rd accord from a Grandma and now i am at last satisfied :)

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Very nice! Glad you're happy with it. They're awesome cars

Yeah but the problem with used german cars is the price to maintain them. Premium cars come with premium prices.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on what model you get

Welp time to smack a super charger in 😂 go big or go home 😅😂

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahha yes quite possibly...

Luxury … Honda ACCORD Euro L / limited edition Euro tourer Sporty … Euro S

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, or euro r

Acura TSX moment

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

So an over priced Acura TSX with a 2.4L... eeww lol The V6 Accord here is a much better deal and can still be had with a manual

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Hahah heck no

@Michael-he1uj

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife america got those cool as manual Accord V6 coupes too, look and sound like 350z's but FWD

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-he1uj yeah I'm familiar with them

You're getting whacked by a stock 335i with turbo charger and after your mods you think it shouldn't be that way? Come on man..

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Nah I'm just demonstrating the difference between buying a $5k car and spending $10k in mods, vs just buying a $15k car in the first place

Stares in Acura TSX 🤣

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Too late, just bought one 😂

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Haha it'll be good man. You'll love it, but treat it as a stepping stone

@Tuan-FistofFury

2 жыл бұрын

You won't regret it.

Sounds like honeymoon is over

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Heading in that direction yes

Yeah I guess soooo…..but nobody got that VTEC son, you know what can go down once you turbo that shiettt

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah that's true man

3rd

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Well done

@oldrandompixels6690

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife Thanks.

I have k20z2 and would like to drive it whole life, there is faster, better but there is no other car that can make smile on my face like my Accord. If you sell this ,,beauty and the beast" I going to unsubscribe from this channel (ofc i'm kidding)

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAH yeah man it's a great car aye

@tantofumo5527

2 жыл бұрын

No you not

The only reason you shouldn't buy one is so that I can buy my next one cheaper...

@KiwiCarLife

Жыл бұрын

Haha lol

Too late I already own one.

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Haha and you won't be disappointed!

Don’t sell it !!

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Ehhh we'll see man

@tantofumo5527

2 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiCarLife 😔

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

@@tantofumo5527 Hey if I move it on it'll be for an S2000 most likely so it's not the end of the world

Lmao you mean a TSX?

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Nah I mean Accord - different market, different name, similar car

silly video

@KiwiCarLife

7 ай бұрын

Thanks haha

I’m not a big fan of the accords dash , but the tsx dash speedometer is pretty nice

@KiwiCarLife

2 жыл бұрын

Fair enough