Three 'Ranger-alikes' - Two Hits and One Miss!

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Well, you can't win them all, can you? The Proxima feels like it comes from a class below the San Martin, despite their identical price tags, just not as good in every single way. But for $100ish, the Pagani more than holds its own visually. And that is kind of the point, isn't it? To look amazing for not a lot of money. Cheers, Jody

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  • @TheFlan80
    @TheFlan80 Жыл бұрын

    Finish work, come home, relax and watch Jody chat about some watches. Perfect

  • @JustOneMoreWatch

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    Жыл бұрын

    Ahhh, thanks Flan. Get yourself a beer or herbal tea as appropriate.

  • @Olddirtytiger

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    Жыл бұрын

    In uk timezone Jody acts as my wake up call 😁

  • @spavliskojr

    @spavliskojr

    Жыл бұрын

    pretty much my day

  • @nakazatotakeshi4286
    @nakazatotakeshi4286 Жыл бұрын

    Hearing Jody says "a bit mid" unironically is the best thing I've heard today.

  • @JustOneMoreWatch

    @JustOneMoreWatch

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, you know, I'm sure there are people watching who will understand it, even though I'm not one of them.

  • @Cichlid_Visuals
    @Cichlid_Visuals Жыл бұрын

    i love the tophat crystal on the pagani, absolute steal for that especially if that claimed 200m resistance holds up.

  • @HuyPham-io4vu
    @HuyPham-io4vu Жыл бұрын

    I got the San Martin, loved it! I might get the white dial on as well. This one truly disappears on the wrist. Thanks for the comparison video Jody.

  • @scottatkinson4937
    @scottatkinson4937 Жыл бұрын

    Top review as always. I picked up the Pagani in the 11-11 sale and have been quite happy, plus the low cost let me pick up a few different pieces over January. Good work Jody. 👍⌚️

  • @TheJaime9526
    @TheJaime9526 Жыл бұрын

    I don’t always think of the differences as ‘not getting it right’ so much as *sometimes* the things that prevent them being a straight clone watch. Sometimes those things work for the watch in hand, rather than the one it is homaging.

  • @MelvinHughesatp
    @MelvinHughesatp Жыл бұрын

    At this stage of my life, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to comfortably spring for a Tudor Black Bay, 39mm Pelagos, or a Ranger. But I do love the Black Bay/Pelagos and Ranger dials and handsets. Enough so that just last night, before I saw your video, I ordered a San Martin SN0107. As I type this, I'm wearing my NTH Barracuda which is about as nice a Black Bay homage as anyone is making. I don't doubt the value of the OG. If I were younger and had never owned a Rolex, Omega, or Tudor, I would be hoarding my pennies for all three of my favorite Tudors! But will a San Martin with a Seiko drive and a NTH with a Miyota work well for me? Yep... What fun! Thanks again, Jody. Always a pleasure to get your take.

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  • @Razor_Burn
    @Razor_Burn Жыл бұрын

    You know the video is going to be good when its a Head-to-Head-to-Head! Cheers Jody 👍

  • @thewatchfemme4051
    @thewatchfemme4051 Жыл бұрын

    I have the San Martin 1016 homage, and it is in contention for my favorite watch. If I was more drawn to the Tudor ranger I’d definitely go the San Martin route. Thanks for the fun comparison Jody!

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  • @WATCHingJames
    @WATCHingJames Жыл бұрын

    Great seeing these side by side. Thanks Jody

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  • @longden57
    @longden57 Жыл бұрын

    I received the Pagani as a gift recently and I put it straight onto a nice suede dark leather strap and I absolutely love it! It looks fantastic. I also love the smaller size. The NH35 is also running well at about minus 1-2 seconds per day.

  • @yankeexpress
    @yankeexpress Жыл бұрын

    I got the Dryden Ranger homage because it came out first, has a smooth highbeat Miyota 9xxx movement and has great quality finishing.

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  • @FRST2012
    @FRST2012 Жыл бұрын

    The two San Martins tried (explorer/bb36) have really impressed me for their quality. I agree with you point on cost vs the real deal, especially if you end up buying more than a few homages. I recently spent not so much on a 36mm Tisell and it’s a great little watch which looks great, but I did it with the knowledge that I don’t think I would ever spend £7k+ on a Rolex Explorer.

  • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
    @HonestWatchReviewsHWR Жыл бұрын

    Great comparison review Jody. I haven't tried out the San Martin or Proxima, but I do have the Pagani Design. The best part about it for me is that lovely deep black dial. Yes the build quality and lume aren't on par with San Martin, but you don't expect it to be for the price. If San Martin added a dial like the Pagani Design one, then I think it would be even better.

  • @sinesaii

    @sinesaii

    Жыл бұрын

    I am not a fan of the ranger, but I do like non-vintage Explorer homages. Who makes the best one in your opinion? I have been keen on the Cronos. Also, keep up the good work with your channel.

  • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR

    @HonestWatchReviewsHWR

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sinesaii I've actually done a comparison video between a few on my channel. The Matic, San Martin and Bliger versions. Thanks 👍

  • @johnmonachelli5256

    @johnmonachelli5256

    Жыл бұрын

    One of the more lucid observations on KZread

  • @AwkwardHorology
    @AwkwardHorology Жыл бұрын

    I bought the San Martin Tudor pro homage before Xmas and I have to say top notch! May pick this one up too 🎉

  • @statlerwaldorf7130
    @statlerwaldorf7130 Жыл бұрын

    Great review Jody, I am very lucky, I got the Tudor Ranger on launch and have to say it is brilliant, very understated, accurate and great value for money for the specs.

  • @JustOneMoreWatch

    @JustOneMoreWatch

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I am not sure why more people don't love it?! Less than half price Explorer in a better size 🤷

  • @pktsqr
    @pktsqr Жыл бұрын

    Picked up the San Martin a while back, and while I guess I'm not as proud of it as if I'd put away $2.7K for the real deal, it still makes me quite happy when I wear it. The finishing is so neat, and it wears great. Having seen a couple of vs vids at this point, I think that's just the way to go.

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  • @kabdu68
    @kabdu68 Жыл бұрын

    Great review, Jody. I was thinking “that Pagani would look great on a leather strap” just as I watched you say it!

  • @darrenaquilina1403
    @darrenaquilina1403 Жыл бұрын

    The San Martin is really finished well. So tempting, and i’m not an homage lover. Looks great!

  • @thetattedpharmacist3215
    @thetattedpharmacist32157 ай бұрын

    Just received my PD Ranger. Cost me $97AU delivered in 6 days. For a watch that will go into the collection for occasional wear, perfect little fun homage. I personally won’t wear it enough to stump up for the San Martin on this occasion, mainly because my one San Martin I do own, I do wear regularly and that’s the 50’s submariner homage the so-called “water-ghost” which is a bloody fantastic watch!

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    You made my day, Jody! My face: 😊 when I find new video from JOMW!

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  • @JeepSec
    @JeepSec Жыл бұрын

    I have the San Martin, bought it on the 11/11 sale last year, and it's one of my favorite watches.

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  • @JasonTheWatchGuy
    @JasonTheWatchGuy Жыл бұрын

    I reviewed the Pagani and enjoyed it but there are definitely some refinements that they need to make. However, for the price it is a winner. Would love to see the San Martin, always quality watches

  • @PheasantPluckersMate
    @PheasantPluckersMate Жыл бұрын

    A hole-in-one again, Jody. Great content and a fun comparison. Cheers!

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  • @darrenjones2070
    @darrenjones2070 Жыл бұрын

    Great video loved this one. Love the comparisons. 👏

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  • @lanky-x782
    @lanky-x782 Жыл бұрын

    Weird timing. I just ordered a Pagani Design PD-1751 last night. The plan is to put it on a vario leather strap. Not really a fan of bracelets. Been thinking of modding it with a green second hand. Will wait a see if it's worth it after I see it in person. Thank you Jody for the review.

  • @tomcat561
    @tomcat561 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jody, I got a San Martin on the way now thanks to you!

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  • @paulbagguley3670
    @paulbagguley3670 Жыл бұрын

    Great Comparison Jody ... My Brother in Law turned up the other week with a Genuine Tudor Ranger. He waited 3 months to collect it then took it back the next day as the hands were catching ... so back to Tudor it went ! I like the Pagani and for the money would go for that !!!!!!!!!

  • @onlythewatchhead
    @onlythewatchhead Жыл бұрын

    Nice looking homage pieces. If I were to purchase one, I might opt for a sterile dial.

  • @RedwoodAggie
    @RedwoodAggie Жыл бұрын

    Huge thanks for taking a look at these 3 Ranger alternatives. I'm sure this will help many an enthusiast on a budget. It's funny how much of the Ranger experience San Martin delivers at a tiny percent of the price. They got the size right, and even offer white lume (my choice). I don't care for the shade of lume used on the Ranger, so this one is quite tempting. No T-Fit clasp of course, but the one there does look nice all things considered. I would stick with the 38.5mm version, but some people were clamoring for a 36mm Ranger. San Martin really is giving people what they want.

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  • @adamdorney5143
    @adamdorney5143 Жыл бұрын

    been waiting for this comparison video

  • @JustOneMoreWatch

    @JustOneMoreWatch

    Жыл бұрын

    Adam! Clearly, as yours is the third comment mate!

  • @phillipgatelein8591
    @phillipgatelein8591 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this Jody

  • @hrs.ai2018
    @hrs.ai2018 Жыл бұрын

    I like how Jody describe proxima as an 'unfinished' one, it looks exactly missing something, more/less like mvnt

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  • @ghostofzuul
    @ghostofzuul Жыл бұрын

    got a pagani air king for xmas.... surprised at how nice it is! i looked at the ranger but liked the air king better! cheers jody!

  • @ThiHambrook
    @ThiHambrook16 күн бұрын

    Thank you 👍 San Martin

  • @SmurfPerfect
    @SmurfPerfect Жыл бұрын

    I have the San Martin and the PD, agree completely with your assessment! The dial on the Pagani is exceptional but the case thickness ruins the overall proportions, esp at only 36mm in diameter.

  • @stephenremington8448

    @stephenremington8448

    Жыл бұрын

    For my Pagani i've never given the thickness a thought. Some years back I did sell my 1963 chrono because of the height, but never felt it on the Pagani.

  • @the_9ent
    @the_9ent Жыл бұрын

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  • @emberkedves6330
    @emberkedves63305 ай бұрын

    Outstanding video!

  • @maxfaberg128
    @maxfaberg128 Жыл бұрын

    The Proxima is homaging an Oysterdate Ranger vintage Tudor. I'd add a cyclops to the date variant. I like that vintage Tudor Oysterdate.

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  • @HALO-2304
    @HALO-2304 Жыл бұрын

    The unicorn logo kind of reminds me of U.N. Squadron, a game I loved playing on the Super Nintendo back in the day.

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  • @georgemole9790
    @georgemole9790 Жыл бұрын

    Great review, Jody, as usual. Can we look forward to you reviewing one or more Long Island Watch Islanders at some point? I've got a few of those now, and although they are not as cheap as the AliExpress specials, they offer good quality and good prices. Hope to hear your take on the brand one of these days.

  • @matthewbessey681
    @matthewbessey681 Жыл бұрын

    I do find myself eyeing up the pagani regularly! Maybe in the next sales !

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  • @mrkitewine7700
    @mrkitewine7700 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jody, do those with the NH35 have a ghost date crown position?

  • @martin4374
    @martin4374 Жыл бұрын

    Should get one for my niece. She loves unicorns! 🎶My horn can pierce the sky 🎵

  • @Keeperofthekey13
    @Keeperofthekey13 Жыл бұрын

    I love the comparison videos & have a lot of respect for both San Martin & Pagani Design. If San Martin gave an alternative for movement choice (say a Miyota 90 series at a slightly higher price) I"d be truly tempted as i'm impressed by the quality for money offered. That said, I would still save for the Ranger if I were inclined to want one. In my opinion, for the money asked, I don't like that the dial has printed indices instead of applied. If it did.... I'd save & buy one. I love Tudor as a brand.

  • @kobusvanrensburg4092

    @kobusvanrensburg4092

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree 100% Instead of the PT5000, give us a 9000 series.

  • @villagranvicent
    @villagranvicent5 ай бұрын

    I totally agree that I rather save and get a real Tudor Ranger than spend 300 bucks on a clonage and regret it later. The Pagani for a hundred can do the trick.

  • @watchalot919
    @watchalot919 Жыл бұрын

    Recently purchased and reviewed my first Proxima. It is loosely based on a Chris Ward C65, and it is excellent. I actually like the fact Proxima hasn't directly homaged the Ranger, and it has the best movement. I am not a fan of the Proxima font, and I hate the unicorn when used. As usual the San Martin is excellent, but quite expensive considering it has the NH35 in it.Of course, the Pagani is the best value for money, but they always let themselves down with something

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  • @johnbuckmaster569
    @johnbuckmaster569 Жыл бұрын

    2 San Marten’s Presently in my collection. I’ve own watches from all the AliExpress brands, And SM Never disappoints.

  • @JP-ly7yp
    @JP-ly7yp Жыл бұрын

    Love the Unicorn!

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  • @brianmsahin
    @brianmsahin Жыл бұрын

    Excellent review Jody. I'm not crazy about the Ranger so not enamoured with the homages either and they're all too small for me anyway.

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  • @aronchas
    @aronchas10 ай бұрын

    picked up the PD for the price and could not be happier, I could not justify your san martin horse😂

  • @Argassin
    @Argassin Жыл бұрын

    Jody, I wonder if for those (like me) that were unable to get their hands on the bracelet version of the BB58, the bracelet of your SM Ranger would fit🤔? Great content as always mate!

  • @Leventgursoy11
    @Leventgursoy11 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations Jody ! Excellent video. I've never bought fake watches however if have to buy 3 of them, I would buy Pagani...

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  • @tonysolino3131
    @tonysolino3131 Жыл бұрын

    Lovely video Jody. Actually, I liked all three. Plus my nieces like unicorns.

  • @larx4074
    @larx4074 Жыл бұрын

    Luuuurve the "Ranger" style, but I'm waiting for the re-release of the Islander/TGV version....................

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  • @kmpaton
    @kmpaton Жыл бұрын

    The T-fit clasp is the most significant thing missing from these, which is one of the Ranger's biggest pros. Otherwise, they look very well done.

  • @briangeorge7965
    @briangeorge7965 Жыл бұрын

    Cheers Jody. Yet another great video.

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  • @boma23
    @boma233 ай бұрын

    Just landed the PD for $35 plus $20 shipping!! Unreal at that price. I'd like 2mm less crystal height and sacrifice some WR to take it down to 50m or 100m, and it would be incredible.

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 Жыл бұрын

    So the San Martin still comes in the old 'oil can' packaging as opposed to the new smaller leatherette travel packaging?

  • @S-Ltd1000
    @S-Ltd1000 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with the bracelet quality compared to similarly priced Orients, Seikos etc. However, I have a couple of San Martins and whilst they are great watches I'm kind of tiring of the homage thing. I just picked up a new orient triton and get a lot more out of the watch despite the inferior bracelet.

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah the Black Bay Pro homage is definitely the one that had gotten me chuffed.

  • @WristWatching
    @WristWatching Жыл бұрын

    If San Martin used the deep black dial from the Pagani, it’ll be the perfect Ranger homage for me. Great comparison!

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  • @georgemole9790
    @georgemole9790 Жыл бұрын

    How does this San Martin Tudor Ranger homage compare to the San Martin "Explore Climbing" Explorer homage (SN020-G) you've reviewed very favorably on previous occasions? They have a very similar look from what I can see in the photos, although the sizes are a little different.

  • @johnseeger9083
    @johnseeger9083 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, mate. Great review. I’ll stick with my Vaer.

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  • @adk7962
    @adk7962 Жыл бұрын

    “Official animal of 6 year old girls around the world.” Pure awesomeness. Yes. Proxima missed the mark on this one. Although their PX1697 (CW Homage) is next on my unnecessarily long list of watches I want to buy.

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  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. Жыл бұрын

    Both companies, Proxima and Pagani have used off-she-shelf cases to work their existing models into Ranger homages, unlike San Martin who have not. This explains the size differences als well as the use of oysterish cases and polished bezels which look totally off to me.

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  • @levi9385
    @levi9385 Жыл бұрын

    I would like for SM to have a white dial option.

  • @gorillasinthewrist
    @gorillasinthewrist Жыл бұрын

    The San Martin is what we’ve come to expect, the font on the proxima dial is clearly aimed at the 6 year old market, but not for me, an unmatched date window? I like the PD, particularly the gloss black dial.

  • @deinhorn2
    @deinhorn2 Жыл бұрын

    Jody, I own about 100 or so watches and 1 Pagani, this one.. Honestly I’m the guy that won’t buy any watch with the Pagani name on it. but bought this one during the sale for like $80US. Simply too cheap to pass up and it looked great. Love the dial. With that said, amazing watch at the price.. (and thankfully only a logo dial) LOL

  • @saurus738
    @saurus738 Жыл бұрын

    When you open the caseback, sometime the disappointment starts there with homages. Most of them you will see the cheap plastic ring inside that holds the movement.

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    @talhakonjic3197 Жыл бұрын

    Jody trying to leave the boomer zone saying "mid" lol love it

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  • @IcarusSuite
    @IcarusSuite Жыл бұрын

    Dang, time for a new Pagani.

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  • @Icarianbrother
    @Icarianbrother3 ай бұрын

    I bought the Pagani Design PD1751. I want to replace the clasp. Do you know what size it is?

  • @joelhenderson4450
    @joelhenderson4450 Жыл бұрын

    The name Proxima inspired passionate visions of… home and auto insurance.

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  • @Michael-4
    @Michael-4 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice, although I'd still prefer the Smiths 36mm Explorer.

  • @hattyfarbuckle
    @hattyfarbuckle Жыл бұрын

    Tudor Ranger was not even on my radar [forgive me Father Jody] and looking at it I'm reminded of the Panerai Radiomir dial [... forgive me again Father for lusting] .. the problem is the same if you add zeros to the price - is the Panerai [with screw in lug locks ... save me Father] worth almost 3x the price of the Tudor ?

  • @MyRetroWatches
    @MyRetroWatches Жыл бұрын

    SM have now made one with applied indices. They have sent me one in. Looks nice. I have their other version and really like it but I do feel the faux patina is a bit to faux and looks off. Great comparison video pal.

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  • @claytonberg721
    @claytonberg721 Жыл бұрын

    That dial on the pagani is great, too bad the lume wasn't a bit better. Maybe get out the tools and put the pagani dial and movement into the san martin?

  • @Ephunker89
    @Ephunker89 Жыл бұрын

    That unicorn could be a bladreunner reminder!

  • @karlsenula9495

    @karlsenula9495

    Жыл бұрын

    Ummm ... no ... it's just a "my lil pony" unicorn ...

  • @Ephunker89

    @Ephunker89

    Жыл бұрын

    @@karlsenula9495 is it really? Never saw it myself

  • @mercster
    @mercster Жыл бұрын

    Nice reverse action while looking at the San Martin bracelet! 😏 Thanks Jody! Why are my listed prices always so much higher on Ali Express (I'm in the states...)

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  • @hufftalbot9296
    @hufftalbot9296 Жыл бұрын

    It would have been nice to see them on the time grapher. I am a bit old fashioned, I think accuracy is quite important in a mechanical watch.

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  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын

    love my san martin ranger

  • @MrWansty
    @MrWansty Жыл бұрын

    has anyone else noticed when jody shows close ups of the san martin it seems to be speeded up to make the second hand look like its sweeping smoothly ,unlike the close ups of the other two?

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  • @franciscomoliner1296
    @franciscomoliner1296 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jody, how about a mix? S.M. case, bracelet and price, PT5000 movement and Pagani's dial. There you have it! Regards

  • @markgoggins246
    @markgoggins246 Жыл бұрын

    Tudor is a nice watch but i would buy the black bay but i like the look of the san martin

  • @theprivateer5570
    @theprivateer5570 Жыл бұрын

    Does SM still offer customized dials for some of its watches?

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  • @johnmonachelli5256
    @johnmonachelli5256 Жыл бұрын

    I'm trying but I can't seem to warm up to the ranger beautifully made no doubt

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  • @murph8411
    @murph8411 Жыл бұрын

    San Martin should really give us a high beat movement if they insist on charging slightly higher prices. A miyota 9000 series would be nice but even a pt5000 if they could up their qc on their internals.

  • @reesebroekhoven3962
    @reesebroekhoven3962 Жыл бұрын

    A head to head to head geeez that alot of head for one episode

  • @SingleTrackMined
    @SingleTrackMined Жыл бұрын

    I'm getting the idea Pagani Design has improved their watches lately. For me, the PD with a leather strap would be beautiful. And cheap. /not Scottish but I understand

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  • @Mr_Memer.876
    @Mr_Memer.876 Жыл бұрын

    I got the 36mm SM version, absolutely stunning quality. I do wish they had used a more inky black dial, but that's just me. For me it's the best AliExpress watch I've owned... And I've owned quite a few... 🤣😅😅😅

  • @JustOneMoreWatch

    @JustOneMoreWatch

    Жыл бұрын

    I also have the 36mm and I'm keeping it! Brings something different to the table in terms of sizing.

  • @Mr_Memer.876

    @Mr_Memer.876

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustOneMoreWatch I'm not sure I can justify keeping mine as I have the new 36mm Christopher Ward C63 Sealander in my collection... But it is sufficiently different to have avoided recent culls! 😅

  • @hillbillyartscrafts4367
    @hillbillyartscrafts4367 Жыл бұрын

    i really like that Pagani Design especially for that price! hell i might just buy one i already bought their speedmaster

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  • @TheWatchChannelAU
    @TheWatchChannelAU Жыл бұрын

    I agree, I did a video on the Pagani Ranger & it's a great watch for the low price ...I mean ...just over $100 inc delivery....how is that even possible?

  • @greamespens1460
    @greamespens1460 Жыл бұрын

    I like a head to head it's like a cup final.

  • @tablameister
    @tablameister Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the excellent comparison video. San Martin tends to receive a lot of accolades from watch reviewers and they definitely seem to be positioning themselves at the higher end of the homage manufacturers. I don't own one yet, but I expect I'll get a San Martin this year, especially since I already own several Pagani Design homages.

  • @olivierdumais6463
    @olivierdumais6463 Жыл бұрын

    The other two companies made theirs smaller because everytime they post their prototypes on reddit, they're absolutely assaulted with comment from tiny men asking them to make every watch 36mm and even smaller. There's a sizeable contingent of of size queens in watch groups that are convinced that because they have tiny wrists and because they wish watch fashion and sizing hadn't changed since the 1960, the watch industry should cater to them specifically. Unfortunately, chinese watch makers have started believing them and have forgotten that most men do in fact have 7 plus inch wrists and that, in line with today's fashion, the sweet spot size for this type of watch is 39mm or 40mm...

  • @khalimheros
    @khalimheros4 ай бұрын

    Pagani is the most accurate: size and glass thickness from vintage Oyster Prince by Tudor.

  • @davepoole5582
    @davepoole5582 Жыл бұрын

    Ace show Jody... I have no complaints about my Pagani. But yes the lume isn't as good.

  • @sinjinadams2862
    @sinjinadams2862 Жыл бұрын

    The common theme in most of these video's is San Martin is the best made watch and Pagani Design is the best value watch. It seems to run true no matter who you compare them to. Definitely two of the best brands on AliExpress.

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