I have always enjoyed both, but thrash is how I got into metal and will always hold a dear place in my heart. Great riffing!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Me too, and thanks! :)

@oulosvie

Жыл бұрын

I could say the same.

@skaldgard

Жыл бұрын

Same here !

@metaldeth166

Жыл бұрын

It's quite the opposite for me although I started with Metallica and Megadeth but what really got me into Metal was stuff like Parkway Drive,As I Lay Dying and Killswith to name a few

@JonathanGasper

Жыл бұрын

Yup, me too!

These Metalcore riffs could also work very well in Thrash Metal

@bighomiestevethemetalhead

Жыл бұрын

I've always said the same thing, the heavier Metalcore riffs are very similar to Thrash. A lot of Modern Thrash bands blend genres, they tend to draw from Death Metal, Black Metal, Metalcore, Hardcore/Punk, and even some Doom Metal. There's some incredible newer Thrash Metal bands out there!!

@stephantrejo8757

Жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly! very solid examples

@cherryfroggo

5 ай бұрын

​@@bighomiestevethemetalhead That's because thrash and thrash adjacent bands once helped culminate in those styles. There's a reason you see "thrash Till Death!" assholes, because the genre really was that great at one point

@bighomiestevethemetalhead

5 ай бұрын

@@cherryfroggo ummm, what's wrong with saying "Thrash 'Till Death"? There are a lot of diehard Thrash Metal fans out there and I'm one of them, I listen to multiple other genres as well, everyone has their preferences. What's the problem?

@cherryfroggo

5 ай бұрын

@@bighomiestevethemetalhead I also tacked on the word "assholes" to specifically describe the ones that are gatekeepy jerks. The ones who think all metal after thrash isn't metal. Asshole elitists are a biproduct of any genre

I have a thing for both. On one hand, the beautifully rhythmic chugging of Thrash Metal, on the other the melodic intensity of Metalcore! If I had to choose, though, I'd probably stick to Thrash for the sheer aggressiveness. Amazing stuff, Pete!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks! Yeah, I think I’d go with Thrash but Metalcore is really cool too. It also has a lot of Thrash influences so that helps :)

@LeMichaelJordansPoleRiders

Жыл бұрын

if you love both, there's always thrash-fluenced metalcore in AILD, Phinehas, BFMV and Trivium which is thrash with metalcore elements IMO

I never get tired of the 2000s melodic core riffs

@playdiscgolf1546

Жыл бұрын

The best metalcore sound period

@SlyHikari03

Жыл бұрын

@@playdiscgolf1546 true. Modern stuff doesn’t sound the same.

0:01 Battery 0:18 Angel Of Death 2:30 Blackened 2:54 Dyers Eve

@lunchbagSSBU

Жыл бұрын

yeah i thought it sounded a little like snatches of metallica's kill em all and justice for all albums

@blackheavyblans

Жыл бұрын

0:18 Angel of Death / Empty Hearts

@zapiexa4947

Жыл бұрын

1:32 is a bit similiar to Madhouse by Anthrax

@TheGhostField

Жыл бұрын

3:11 Kreator :)

@M.LINS7

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGhostField name music

Thrash definitely is nearer and dearer to my heart than most other metal styles. A lot of my early guitar journey featured a LOT of stuff from Metallica's first 4 albums.

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Me too! :)

@Sugar_K

Жыл бұрын

@@peteplaysmusic not half obvious

Thrash Metal or Metalcore, who wins? :)

@mister-cantes

Жыл бұрын

Thrash rules!

@Joshua-pr4mz

2 ай бұрын

Metalcore forever

the riffs blend so well into each other, great job as always \m/

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

@bmac4

Жыл бұрын

At the end of the day they're both fusion genres between metal and punk, the stylistic musings are similar by design.

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Yep, there’s definitely a lot of similarities between the two styles :)

@Jakob_W3Ch4rg3_

Жыл бұрын

@@peteplaysmusic Trivium has entered the chat.

Having them mashed together is.. PERFECT THRASH CORE

@Nickyd.

Жыл бұрын

Kinda like bullet for my valentine. Scream Aim and Fire has so much Thrash in it

@SorceressWitch

Жыл бұрын

Thrashcore is already a thing in hardcore punk which is where the word thrash was originally used but they later called it core to differentiate from thrash metal that became a thing in the 80's. Metalcore itself was influenced by thrash metal and crossover thrash of you check out 90's metalcore. Melodic metalcore also has thrash influences. Bullet For My Valentine, Trivium, God Forbid, Shadows Fall just to name a few.

@KENNETHCARNIE

Жыл бұрын

@@SorceressWitch you're the historian of metal!! You rock!

Thrash riff 3 just has to be the best for blending both Blackened and Dyers Eve esque riffs

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks! :)

@Parka_Niel

Жыл бұрын

Second was caught in a mosh + mad house and First one had angel of death breakdown

Turns out...the combination of the two is better than just one by itself!!! Well done, Pete who plays music!

Thrash is what I got into metal with as a teenager. Metallica, megadeth, slayer, etc... But as metalcore came about and bands like Killswitch, as I lay dying, machinehead, etc started coming out I kinda fell in love with that genre too. To me metalcore is kinda what thrash directly evolved into as younger artists hit the scene. At least from most of the varieties of metal we have, metalcore draws soooo many parallels with thrash you can't ignore it. Your video reeeeeally illustrate the key differences AND the many similarities those 2 genres really have. Also, fkn awesome riffing man!

@TheSharkAnt

Жыл бұрын

Machine Head is groove metal.

@kryptoniana9489

Жыл бұрын

Machine head is Groove metal and even thrash metal...

@suylyath2658

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s cause thrash and metalcore both have heavy roots in punk music

When I write songs, I never wonder what style it is! You can mix them all or just stay with one. Who gives a shit. People will like it or not. The end product is what counts. You are demonstrating it very well in this video.

@DarthWinterMadness

Жыл бұрын

That's what I love with metal in general, you can pretty much blend every music style whilst still sounding great. Cheers from France! 🍻

Thrash, melodic death metal and metalcore riffs are my favourite. Mix them all in one amazing style 🤤🤘🏻

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha! It shall be call ‘Melodethrashcore’ Metal :)

@jav6665

Жыл бұрын

@@peteplaysmusic yes please!

@asymmetrix7049

Жыл бұрын

Funny you say that, Trivium is exactly that, their name even means "the place where three roads meet" referring to that specific three-way fusion

@outofboundsbro

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that just Skeletonwitch

@jav6665

Жыл бұрын

@@outofboundsbro yes you nailed it!

I honestly think both are good and dont care that much for the versus part, but hearing two styles flowing into each other so nicely in a song is really cool, great video pete!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

@sasa-bv9gu

Жыл бұрын

agreed 100%

It’s so weird. I’ve been a ‘core kid’ for the last 15 years and never even gave thrash a second listen, but recently thrash has just scratched an itch that I never knew I had. Guess a lot changes when you turn 30. 😅 Great vid, and great riffage!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, that's interesting. I kinda feel I'm going in the opposite direction. I always loved Thrash but grew up around the Core stuff too and I like it but, I just like Thrash more I guess. I think more interesting stuff is happening with Metalcore in recent years though :)

@jkobain

Жыл бұрын

Music attracts moods and gets attracted as well. If only you're not a one trick pony, you like music of different bands and genres, naturally.

@christidutoit

Жыл бұрын

@@peteplaysmusic True true! Metalcore is getting so ‘proggy’ now though - definitely loads of blurred lines in the heavier genres at the moment. In my mind it seems like thrash is making a bit of a comeback in the underground, but that could also just be because I’ve had Sylosis on repeat for the last few weeks. The irony is obviously that the metal guys and the core guys have always had beef, but there are so many similarities between thrash and metalcore playing styles. 😂

@christidutoit

Жыл бұрын

@@jkobain Definitely true!

@SkibidiEugensson

Жыл бұрын

Same same.

Thrash metal was my introduction to metal, and now I also enjoy metalcore. Both have different qualities and I like them both.

I’ve always been a core-kid so I’m almost “disappointed” that there wasn’t a breakdown riff in here but those chugs in the second riff were still epic

@2nd100k

Жыл бұрын

core is so cringe

@lutscher7979

Жыл бұрын

@@2nd100k the fuck, did you just say that AILD, Trivium, Meshuggah are cringe ?

@BigTony-bf5jr

Жыл бұрын

@@2nd100k true

@scottybandicoot6347

Жыл бұрын

@@2nd100k yeah sure it is 🤣

@ricksterdrummer2170

Жыл бұрын

@Spiritual Abortion That is definitely a modern metalcore breakdown!! Old-school metalcore didn’t have those paused 0’s all over.

BOTH!! Awesome playing as always Pete. Keep crushing \m/ \m/

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! :)

That metalcore harmony riff at the ending was best. You are sick riffing machine Pete!

I loved both! Your riffs are absolutely monstrous man!!

He's so talented, I wish he had a band, the album would smash. His riffs are amazing. From the EMG 85/81 comparison to this ti many others

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks! I don’t have a band or a proper album but I do release a lot the songs from my videos and put the on Spotify etc. Link is in the description if you’re interested in checking them out :)

Cool riffs, dude!!!! I've really enjoyed so much. Great HB guitar sound!!!! KEEP ON DOING IT!!!

Played together like that it’s metal perfection. Wicked sick shredding man!! Beautiful.

This video is gonna get a spot on my playlist with how well the different sections feed into each other 😄 Not to mention how hard it rocks. Truly great musicianship here.

That last Metalcore riff is SO AMAZING!!! ❤ 🤘

Sometimes when I write music I find myself mixing these two styles. Fast tempo and phrygian scale of thrash metal, and melodic riffs of metalcore.

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Metalcore definitely borrows a lot from Thrash so I often end up blending the two styles as well haha :)

Beautiful quality as always! Thank you for another one 💜🤘🏻

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! :)

It sounds like Thrash all the way to 1:50, when the second Metalcore riff starts. This is obviously not meant as hate, in contrast you made the first three riffs flow perfectly into each other. But I am not sure how well the first Metalcore riff actually represents Metalcore, if at all

That absolutley brun my brain of, that was INSANE! instant abo

Thrash forever, but you rock so hard I love everything you play!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks! :)

I play in a thrash/metalcore (thrashcore) band and this goes hard

I do love me a good ol bit of thrash, awesome as always pete 🤘🏼😈🤘🏼

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks! Love me some Thrash too :)

I love that he’s using Harley Benton guitars, it’s awesome! I need to get myself some

Yes please more videos comparing different styles. It helps so much beginners to know there styles

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Sure! Any styles you’d like to see? :)

@atomicpunk2360

Жыл бұрын

@@peteplaysmusic maybe some nu-metal riffs at some point?

Been digging your thrash riffs, man

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Pleased you like it, love me some Thrash :)

2:29 that sounds like blackened riff that is played with solo

The thrash riffs sound a lot like Exodus to me, and i love it!

Man! It's so hard for me to choose what is better. Both have had such an impact on my life.

That was some really great playing man. Killer

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Love me some all down picking Thrash and Metalcore :)

@guyfromnj

Жыл бұрын

@@peteplaysmusic same here man.

Loved the AJFA riffs pal 👊🏻👊🏻

excellent sound, to listen to on the trip

Great riffing Pete!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

I think the combination of both metal genres and, of course, with traditional metal riffs(and strong vocalist), is an excellent formula of success

Like last weeks video, I think the two actually work well together. It would be interesting to see more songs that use different styles to create movement and dynamics.

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Sure! Any styles you’d like to see? :)

@tim290280

Жыл бұрын

@@peteplaysmusic, putting me on the spot.... Um, Gothenburg, thrash, djent, and a sprinkle of grunge (Smashing Pumpkins fuzz style). Wait, now I've put you on the spot...

If you combine all of these riffs you get bullet for my valentine basically 🤣

DAMN Pete, this video is FIREEEEE

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks! :)

Not surprised that they work together so well, thrash is a mix of NWOBHM with hardcore punk, hardcore punk evolved into the heavier (beatdown i guess?) hardcore, melodic death metal split off from death metal which split off from thrash, and a combination of heavy hardcore and mdm gave us metalcore. That era of metalcore basically has the same origin story as thrash

The BFMV vibes I got from both styles really put a smile in this old core kid's face.

\m/ Hell yeah! Awesome playing Pete! I was head bangin' the whole 4 minutes If I really have to pick a winner: Thrash by a narrow margin \m/

You play so damn well!! I play since 2 years and I love it!! Of course I must get better ;-) For me Thrash wins \m/

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! :)

Great riffs man, just wish there were 1 or 2 more recent styles of metalcore riffs in there

Metalcore its ok untill you reach adulthood and realize Disgorge wasnt just grind noise, it just how life sounds

@hypnovertigo7200

Жыл бұрын

From Mexico?

Hahaha. The classic "don't like the placement of the volume knob....REMOVE!" .Amazing playing pete

You are truly an inspiration for me to keep plugging away and getting better at guitar. Unfortunately I am fairly new at recording and getting my stuff to actually sound good has been rough lol. I would love for you to hear some of the stuff I've done and get your opinion and possible advice.

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome! My advice is to just keep going, learning and improving as you go so each recording gets better and better! I recommend checking out some of Glenn Frickers recording/mixing tutorials or if have more time check out some of the recording/mixing masterclasses on Creative Live. Thanks! :)

Nice references in the riffs Pete… 🤘🏽

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

All good, but that last riff won me over. Some tremonti going on 3:38

Thrash will always be special to me, cause it really got me into metal music in general. But metalcore, to me at least, gets everything amazing from thrash while also adding melodic sutff. I'm just in love with this 2000's metalcore! Also, the last two riffs for both genres, the thrash sounded like your own version of Blackened and Dyers Eve combined, and the metalcore riff reminded me so much of Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying and Bullet for my Valentine

Metalcore Riff No1 personal favorite. Great job!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

2:29 actually thought for a second thats was blackened second solo-riff (fast part), but its just similar and urs go different later. Interesting concept!

I alway liked the idea of merging the two sub-genre’s, for they both have a unique style that would sound amazing blended together

Fuck yeah, i clicked so fast just to hear your riffs 🤘

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks! :)

We won by getting to listen that! They really worked together so well. I went to high school in the 80's so thrash was my jam, but I love seeing the different paths younger generations have gone with it.

metalcore riff 2 was beast, those roswell pickups sound pretty good.

Something about thrash for me 😎 can't help but go crazy!!

Nice breakdown on part 2 of metalcore

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

It Is fucking great Pete, Thanks buddy It fits a lot 🙏💪🔥🤘

Basically Trivium hahaha. Great playing as always!

You have the best riffs Pete. 👍👍

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks so much! Lots of downpicking in these :)

I noticed some Angel of Death inspiration on the first thrash riff, and some Blackened and Dyers Eve on the last one.

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha, yep! Definitely threw in some nods to some songs in these :)

I got into metal via Iron Maiden, then I got into Metallica and Megadeth. Mostly though I've always loved Hard Rock/Metal i.e. Black Sabbath, Deep Purple. I cannot say which of the two won, thrash or metalcore but they are both good.

Both fantastic!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

Thrash riff #3 is Blackened/Dyers Eve. And Metalcore riff #3 is Unholy Confessions, I guess 😋🤘🤘

Thrash has more aggression while metalcore has more melodic elements. I like the guitar that you did for the thrash parts there.

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s a cheap Harley Benton but it looks a lot like the old ESP MX guitars that James Hetfield uses :)

are these new guitars? those fretboards are super polished and made me imagine all that effort before filming.

Can we talk about how he’s got such a badass tone and he’s using stock Harley Bentons?

The seemless transitions between classic riffs in both “genres” is amazing.

What I liked most about this video: how you combined them into one so it resulted in one harmonious picture. I like myself a little Thrash Metal, but I like Metalcore better.

they're both so good 👍

The riffs blend together so good. Nice job! What's that ex84 like?

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Pretty cool, I wish they hadn’t changed the shape though. It’s obviously only a cheap guitar so it’s not on a ESP/LTD or PRS SE level of quality but it’s pretty solid. Sometimes the Harley Bentons need a fret level to get the action as low as I like but this one plays very well. Gonna throw some EMG’s in this at some point too :)

@BrokenStrings231

Жыл бұрын

@@peteplaysmusic Sorry for the late reply man, I didn't get the notif. It looks sick and I'm thinking of getting one after I get my fusion III. Tnx for your reply!

Yo this guy plays for 4 minutes at 200 bpm and his hand is not even tired. Man you are amazing

Hey man..am a new sub. 2 questions. 1) wat camera u using? 2) do u do multiple takes on same camera or do u have multiple cameras on 1 play thru (capturing many angles) Thanks in advance

1: Thrash (Great "Angel of Death"-impression. Sorry, I'm biased.) 2: Thrash (Very close, if the metalcore-riff had more emphasis on the syncopation, it would've won for me.) 3: Metalcore (Thrash felt very stiff on this one, whereas that's the kind of metalcore-riffing that I like.)

I really like metalcore, but I never listened to it before. I think, I should give it a try. Thanks for video!

@SomebodyMeOnceTold

Жыл бұрын

Listen to Trivium's album Ascendancy and As I Lay Dying's album An Ocean Between Us.

@kosty_705

Жыл бұрын

@@SomebodyMeOnceTold thanks for recommendations

@kosty_705

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, these bands are really good, i like it so much

@SomebodyMeOnceTold

Жыл бұрын

@@kosty_705 You're welcome! Glad you like

Really interested what you think about the Harley Benton guitars (or anyone else in the comments as a matter of fact) - I've seen them about but not sure whether people have just got them for the lolz or not. I've just ordered a schecter omen elite MS8 and now really want to get a cheap guitar that I can fiddle about with and just generally play music on that isn't usually my "go to"

Sweet downpicking during a lot of the thrash riffs. A gentleman and a scholar.

Nice Harley Bentons 💜

This thing can makes everyone headbang👌🤘🔥

3:38 Rocks my face off. Love this riff!

I was always fan of thrash since I was 12. I didn't listened to metalcore at all but nice riff in both generes, I enjoyed it. I would hear your comprarision of melodic death metal and metalcore, as it was strongly influenced by melodeath it could be interesting to hear the differences you would put there. Anyway what is bridge in your Strat?

Bullet For My Valentine, Sanctity, Envenomed, Shadows Fall, Trivium, Exzoust, X-Tinction...

I normally lean to thrash metal more but you make `em both appealing

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

I’m usually more of a Thrash person too. But I like both, there’s just something really cool about Thrash :)

That is a very beautiful piece all of it ... i honestly dont care about the style what and where.... it all sounds so complete

Harley Benton guitar, nice 😎🤘

Pete...absolutely awesome as always! I share the same sentiment as many others. I like both, but I started with Thrash and it'll always sit just above the rest of metal in my heart. Amazing riffs, as always.🤘🤘🤘 Thank you for your continued hard work!

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! :)

Wow you're good!

Thanks Pete for excellent distinction. Listened to this while cooking and thus did not know when styles switched. After revieweing, I only headbanged during thrash segments and was annoyed through the metal core ones. And not from lack of competence on Pete's behalf, I might add.

Can't turn my back on thrash ! Nicely done.

@peteplaysmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, thrash is my favourite too.

As much as the thrash is about perfect (it's got a powerful taste of megallica or metallideth over it) I feel like the metalcore is in many parts more "core-ified thrash" than pure modern core. Still, super enjoyable!

Awsome