"upgraded from cult to niche" I get the distinction but I still chuckled at how precisely you split hairs

Mathew "If i was a salary man" Matosis

@TotalNigelFargothDeath

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew "technically perfect level of control" Matosis

@liplepeoberty5815

Жыл бұрын

サラリーマン

@lukesesh

Жыл бұрын

Saturday Night Big Video Salary Man

I love how Vanillaware games are instantly recognisable, regardless of their genre. I hope they can keep making games for many years to come

@CornishCreamtea07

4 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping 13 Sentinels gets a western release. Yes they are very recognisable, it's like European folklore and mythology have gone through a Anime esque filler.

@Matthewmatosis

4 жыл бұрын

Although I was fairly critical of this one, I agree, I hope they stick around for a long time. I haven't played 13 Sentinels yet but I'm even glad they're taking another step outside the action genre, hope it turns out well. I want all their games on PC.

@TheBadAssNcrRanger

4 жыл бұрын

@@CornishCreamtea07 It is supposed to release in the west in 2020.

@John-jr6bi

4 жыл бұрын

@Vazazell I replayed Muramasa awhile ago, and actually fount it to be really short, there is even a trophy for completing the game in under 3 hours. Even going after all three endings is not that long as you are powerful enough then to slaughter a room full of enemies, so you can rush through sections to get to the boss fights.

@ierdan4257

4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully when 13 sentinels comes out in the west it gets a proper translation, unlike what happend with say nihon falcom's ys 8.

“Although you’ll still be wasting time in real life, which hopefully is a lot more valuable.”

"...I'm probably leaving this grimoire, on the shelf". Love your punchy concluding lines.

All these years later, still the best game analysis channel on KZread.

Matthewmatosis is the only reviewer who would choose to review a niche RTS game from 2007.

@NetConsole

4 жыл бұрын

Which has never gotten a re-release, no less.

@abyzzwalker

4 жыл бұрын

and thanks for that.

@CallinWire

4 жыл бұрын

@@NetConsole It is available to download on the PS3, fortunately. Got it yesterday and playing through it now. store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-NPUD21604_00-0000000000000000

@dumbass4615

4 жыл бұрын

I believe it's a "cult'" game, not a niche one. or at least according to ChadthewPhimosis

@NetConsole

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, cult games are the likes of Snatcher, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Gitaroo Man, Terranigma, Sweet Home, etc. Game which few people have played, but is beloved by the vast majority who have. The latter clearly does not apply to this game. Earthbound, Cave Story and Nier used to be cult classics, they aren't anymore.

"So-called Realtime with pause rules out multiplayer" Meanwhile, at Paradox.

@snapperfisch

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking this exact thing

@rubenfigueiredo3458

4 жыл бұрын

Paradox games were Desync Central for the longest time so let's not pretend the format worked out of the box. And the format would be hard to pull off in 1v1 matchmaking scenarios

@Dext3rM0rg4n

4 жыл бұрын

@@rubenfigueiredo3458 >Paradox games were Desync Central Still are. Tried to play Stellaris with two friends a year ago, had desynch at least twice an hour.

@Nagassh

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not pretending anything, just making a bit of a joke - that said, criticizing Paradox's execution of the format doesn't make it any less true. It obviously probably wouldn't transfer over to a game like Grimgrimoire since it wasn't designed around it, but the comment "realtime with pause rules out multiplayer" is a proven false premise. If anything I'd argue the format would be easier to pull off in 1v1 matchmaking, just limit the amount of pause you get to something low like 5-10 seconds and only have it re-charge at a delayed rate to avoid people trying to use it to grief. Oh, and have the framework to keep people in synch, that'd be a good one. 1-1 should always be a lot easier to manage than the sprawling web that paradox games are, arguably, at their best in. I'll stop typing my dumb essay over a throwaway joke though, just seems odd to see the notion of realtime with pause dismissed so quickly considering part of the appeal of this channel is matosis' willingness to delve into game design choices, posit alternatives and his general interest in developers doing interesting things.

@snapperfisch

4 жыл бұрын

There is still that glitch in paradox games if you pause in multiplayer where you get hit in the head with household objects until you unpause, they still havent fixed that one

GrimGrimoire says more about Vanillaware's art direction abilities than their game directing. I feel like that's an underlying current of all their work. They shipped on a system that has support for usb keyboard & mouse, and didn't enable support for it. Other devs from Japan and the west didn't struggle implementing these controls just as they are in PC games of the time. If you want to make a controller RTS you abstract it to a degree - something like Docchi Mecha on the PS1 or Thousand Land by Fromsoft. Cloning starcraft and pitching it 90 degrees was far from the best way to tackle the genre. The asses on the demons are pretty nice, at least. Bouncy.

1:11 I’m never ready for Matthew’s jokes, and they always end up killing me. They’re simple in execution but extremely elegant, and don’t quite hit you at their fullest until you pause for thought. I guess that’s just how he does everything lol

Very interesting to see this utterly obscure yet fascinating video games such GrimGrimoire receive legitimate reviews, 13 years after their release. One of the many things I enjoy about Matthew's reviews.

I'm loving these short videos every monday.

@arthurjeannin3357

4 жыл бұрын

Same! Long videos are nice, of course, but it's sometimes really hard to get through even when they're interesting. Shorter videos presenting byte-sized essays or quick presentations are such a great idea!

With HD remaster being recently announced I wonder how much will they polish the gameplay for it. They did a great job with Odin Sphere remake.

Speaking from experience: Spawn grimalkin, cast sleep, win

This looks like the Fort Condor minigame from FF7 made into a full game

@QuintessentialWalrus

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. Watching a MondayMatosis video about a game I've never even heard of is like jumping to a random chapter in the Silmarilion and hoping for the best, but... I kinda love it

these bite sized videos are a good start to my working week, especially in these times.

Enjoying these short-form reviews, keep it up

I'm really happy to see that you're uploading every now and then.

Vanillaware!!! I love Odin Sphere and Dragons Crown. Haven't played Grimoire, it doesn't look like I'd enjoy it. Keep up the good work Mr.Matosis.

I love these Monday videos. Obviously a big meaty in-depth video is great, but there's something to be said for a nice little weekly thing as well.

If more short reviews means I don't have to wait months for your videos I'm cool with that.

If you choose games like this, which I like the art so much, I must watch!

enjoying these quick reviews! Keep em coming :)

This is one of my favorite games. You have no idea how nice it is to see it acknowledged, because Vanillaware sure doesn't lol edit: Welp. They finally did. :')

@mechashoujo

2 жыл бұрын

It’s coming to switch.

@mewfeuille

2 жыл бұрын

@@mechashoujo Yeah, I saw the news! Very exciting.

Great video as always Matt!

Always wondered what this game was like. Thanks for showing it off and talking about it.

It would be interesting to see a side-scrolling RTS like this with units focused on attacking in different directions (like bombers dropping things from above, normal troops fighting on the same level, etc). That would really help take advantage of the multi-floor approach and give more strategy than simple type advantage

@Milkb0t

4 жыл бұрын

There was an NDS game like this: Glory Days. It was hella fun especially if you had someone to play with! kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKJ6waaOfMzZlso.html

I've been debating playing this or not for a solid year now and you pretty much just summed up all my fears in one go. Shame that the summation of my fears ended up being your general thoughts after playing it, but sometimes it really just is like that.

These dainty little mini Matthewmatosis videos are so cute.

I don't even care what you're talking about, I know it's going to be great and informative. Thanks!

I honestly haven't heard of many of these smaller games, but I'm very grateful for the introduction. They seem to have a lot to offer, and a lot of lessons to be learned from their designs and implementations.

@Medytacjusz

4 жыл бұрын

well, there's hundreds of new games realeased each month on steam alone, and if you include all platforms and regions...

so hyped for the remake. was happy to see someone had a video on the original, thank you

Was not expecting to see this game reviewed. What a pleasant surprise

Aegis Rim got me hyped

Sometimes I get disappointed to see a video this short then just get shocked at how dense and engaging those 5 minutes are.

Great video thanks Matt

comment for the youtube algorithm bla bla you know the drill Keep doing your thing, Matt!

@suakeli

4 жыл бұрын

Algorithm comment part 477

I hope Matt is not having trouble releasing these weekly vids. Because I love them. Keep 'em coming. (If you burn out at least make them 2 weekly or monthly :)

Keep up the grind man

So not that Matt has done GrimGrimoire. I really hope he eventually gets around to doing dragon's crown and muramasa the demon blade, vanillaware other games.

Pretty please, I'd love to get an in depth video about Rain World. There is so much to unpack there and I'm sure you'd make some interesting observations

I'm enjoying the more frequent, shorter videos. They complement the longer videos well, often just making one or two points succinctly.

You're banging em out lad!

There is a small list of PS2 games which are compatibles with Mouse and Keyboard and that can be any Usb mouse, I'm not sure if GrimGrimoire is one of them

"Which is hopefully more valuable"

Matthews great (as usual) review aside, can we just take a moment to appreciate that this man has barely any ads on his videos? Not even on the behemoth of a vid that is the 6-hour analysis of Dark Souls (and the most I've seen were single ads at the end of shorter videos such as these) So Bravo to you Mr. Matosis, for allowing us to enjoy your content on mobile without getting spammed and assaulted by Raid: Shadowlegends (Hope youre still getting food on the table though)

I love Vanillaware and wonky experimental Japanese game design. It may not pan out commercially for the devs but it gives us something to talk about.

I'm almost certain that in single player Company of herores lets you pause and give orders whenever you want, so if you want to see how that can work in a very good RTS have at.

I had no idea this vanillaware game existed and I'm by far not a fan RTS style gameplay, but looking at this viewpoint instantly has me thinking about the FF7 Mountain minigame. Cool to hear opinions about stuff like this game that I'd actually never try myself. (Really hope the new Vanillaware game 13 Sentinels gets localized, I've heard great things about it from JP.)

Wow, I actually played this a while ago though didn't recognise the name. It was pretty neat.

Sums the game up very well. Vanillaware does have a way about making things looks so nice but a lot of their games tend to lack depth.

@hyde5213

4 жыл бұрын

Do you know how I can tell you only played this propaganda piece and nothing else?

@connorhobson6293

4 жыл бұрын

@@hyde5213 Do you want me to show you my copies of Dragon Crown, Odin Sphere, and this game?

@connorhobson6293

4 жыл бұрын

@@hyde5213 I really don't understand why a one sentence critism of the depth of vanillaware games requires so much priof but i have no way to send images on youtube so gimme your discord and i'll send proof

@fabulousknight1960

4 жыл бұрын

@@hyde5213 why is grimgrimoire a propaganda piece

@connorhobson6293

4 жыл бұрын

@@fabulousknight1960 he's just butthurt and spouting buzzwords

I hope Mathew does another long review series. Preferably persona.

I love this game in everything but the gameplay. The story, music, and visuals are all incredible. Even the English dub is pretty good.

If nothing else, seeing this game instantly makes me want to go play Odin's Sphere L and Dragon's Crown Pro again

Somehow I'm really surprised that you reviewed this even though I should have guessed you'd go through everything Vannila made. Honestly I think the closest Vanillaware came to acknowledging it is through NIS and NISA adding Lillet Blan to Disgaea related polls. Anyway, I mainly just remember doing dragon stack spam, no need to worry about anything when you just AOE spam everything to hell.

they turned the staircase sections in Ghostbusters NES into a stand alone game

Excellent Review

this guy is sooooo on fire

Cute ending to the video, there.

Prismata is another strategy game where workers have a secondary function. Each turn a Drone can produce 1 gold, or it can block with 1 HP. Using Drones to block is inefficient, but it's often better than letting the opponent breach your defense. Prismata is currently free, so give it a try if you think it looks interesting.

Hey Matt, love the frequent uploads as of late. I was wondering if yo have played a game called "The Void", it was developed by Ice Pick Lodge, same devs as Pathologic. I think The Void bares quite a few similarities to Rain World, to the point where I think the Rain World devs took direct inspiration from The Void. I know Pathologic wasnt really for you, but I think you would like The Void.

@Lishtenbird

4 жыл бұрын

I never managed to finish that game but I admit The Void has been one of the most surreal and memorable games I've played. Its strong atmosphere paired well with the mechanics, as far as I remember, so I would also like to see a deep dive into it now, so many years later.

If I was a Japanese salaryman I would take the train every day

I havent played alot of Starcraft-type strategy games, so it was kinda interesting seeing some analysis on GrimGrimoire from that perspective, as I played through the whole game and loved it. Admittedly though, I still noticed some problems with the strategy. Most of my strategy boiled down to getting one the three best units in the game (Chimera, Dragon, and Titania), and figuring out which one worked best to steam roll the enemy. Theres also Chiron who was COMPLETELY useless throughout the whole campaign, even on the stage that wanted you to use him. However, it was mostly the story that got me invested. I loved the characters and story line and was interested in seeing where it was going the whole time. The gameplay wasn't terrible for me, especially being new to these types of games, so I still enjoyed myself with what strategy there was involved, and I had no problem playing a level just to see the next part of the story. I'd definitely recommend the game, but as I said, its interesting seeing someone with more experience in the genre talk about it. Also SPOILER WARNING: but I wonder how those bible-thumping idiots who think video games make people violent would think about a game where you kill the devil by making him embrace God.

I hope you can review Knights In The Nightmare someday.

I hope one of these Thoughts on video's is about Dark Messiah.

Well never heard of this game before.

Dear reader, Please have a fortuitous day! 🤗😀

Seeing as the map is divided in floors and columns, it's odd that you can't navigate between them using the d-pad.

I love how Matthew will just randomly drop a commentary video about a seven-year-old game. I need more of your content man. You introduced me to zachtronics so I'm curious what else you've been playing lately, or if you're going to review the new zachtronics releases.

In retrospect, one would've thought that a game made in compilation between Vanillaware and Nippon Ichi Software would've been...more? I mean, its still a fun game and I enjoyed it, especially since you can see the those Vanilla and NIS quirks seep through the writing and presentation, but considering its pedigree one can't help but think that it could've been bigger than it was. I mean Vanillaware has made fun and memorable games like Dragon's Crown and Odinsphere, while NIS is the company known for well beloved titles like the Disgaea and Atelier franchises and their various cousin games. Plus later on in the company history we DO see the return of characters like Lujei into the greater NIS Multiverse via Soul Nomad, so they are clearly aware that people enjoyed the game. So, considering all the other NIS games that get remasters and ports to other consoles, I feel like a remake of GrimGrimoire may not be impossible sometime in the future

May I recommend removing the black borders on the left and right so that iPad users can watch full screen with the entire device? iPads have 4:3 aspect ratio screens. Love your videos.

Heck, just some modern application of UX would improve it dramatically _with_ a controller. Still a gem.

grimalkin❤️️

Active pause isn't really anything new or unusual in RTS games. I'd say most have it. It's just that the C&C and Blizzard games don't, and they are probably the most popular in the genre.

Keen to hear your thoughts on 13 sentinels. The battle system and story are well connected through a plot conceit but ... it’s not enough to make them gel together. And the story is incredible, but rather dependent on twists. The lack of gameplay moments makes this an incredible title to rent and play once, rather than buy.

This game is "Okay! Okay fine!"

I honestly loved this game and it bummers me that i cant play it no more

Irishtube is best youtube No matter the topic, Irish youtubers seem to be the best. Matthew here, OSW Review for wrestling, Tantacrul for music, and so on

Vanillaware = My aesthetic. The side view of a tower? Wow that's rather eccentric, consider the pillars and floors are straight up blocking those beautiful sprites they are known for.

Youve been rolling em out lately Matt. That rona got you stuck at home making videos? I'm certainly benefiting.. keep em coming.

I wonder what his opinion was on the revised Grimoire.

really like the shorter videos 👍

What are your thoughts on Grimgrimoire?

And now it's been re-released

Do you, or anyone else, happen to know if the PS2 PAL version which is 50hz only was "properly" converted, running on the same speed as the NTSC ones but with worse framerate? Or does it literaly run slower.

So how much would game be with ability to play on PC with mouse?

Vanillaware finally porting games to PC would be amazing, Muramasa in full HD with the art updated accordingly would be a dream come true. For now there's always emulation and some Vanillaware-esque games like The Vagrant but a man can dream.

Abd after that they made Odin Sphere which is a *mwah* MASTERPECE

I knew the name, but never knew the game, and then rewrote that statement to rhyme. Anyways, good work.

i was having an ok time with the gameplay, but i definitely stuck around for the story and the art. I was captivated by the visual novel aspect of the whole thing

There's a good tactic with only a Titania and fairy rings Titania max it out so all glamour characters are slightly cheaper,better health,attack and speed Call fairies and use them to attack enemies Note the reason why fairies are good is that they cannot be attacked by their weakness or sleep effect when they can Astralize using the skill they have this mean glamour is immune to its weakness and can be resistant to another branch sorcery. It's better to have some spare elves and obelisks Elves to heal the fairies when in normal form and obelisks when in astral form. Only weakness is psychic shock from homunculus

You sound like saiki k (anime) in English dub, very cool

I actually like this game a bunch in spite of the obvious shortcomings. There’s a tangible charm to every single unit design that makes it a joy to look at. Which is par for the course with Vanillaware I suppose.

how are you today matt ?

Quarantine content!

Are you ever gonna cover Mario Odyssey, and how it compares to 64?

“Although you’ll be wasting time in real life which is hopefully more valuable”

Warcraft 3 had a variety of mechanics tied to their workers. If there are so many copycats in the RTS genre, surely some of them would notice the improvement that gives in a variety of strategies.

@Matthewmatosis

4 жыл бұрын

Warcraft 3 is the next best example I'm aware of but I would say only ghouls and peasants have enough complexity to them. It's cool that acolytes, peons and wisps all gather resources in a slightly different way but there's not much to them. In GrimGrimoire elves, blobs and imps can all be worth building even if you don't plan on using them to mine at all.

@Medytacjusz

4 жыл бұрын

@@Matthewmatosis I think you forgot that Peons can be put in huts to throw spears at enemies. Apart from mining another reason to build workers is to repair units and buildings and there's also the difference in how they build buildings (especially cultists and peasants). In DawnOfWar the workers are only used for building and repair. But of course there's always space for innovation and different approaches.

@Addsomehappy

4 жыл бұрын

@@Matthewmatosis also wisps can disspell and deal deal massive damage to summoned units, and peasants with their ability to build collectively can be used to tower rush enemy, or quickly arrange a secondary base

I've got to agree with this review. I still like the game though. Albeit mostly as a curio for my collection. Being a game most people haven't heard of.

So apparently this is getting remastered and put on the Switch soon? I wonder if theyll fix any of the issues mentioned