THORNS - Grymyrk [Full Demo 1991]
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Black metal from Trondheim, Norway.
1. Lovely Children 0:01
2. Fall 3:33
3. Thule 5:55
4. Fairytales 12:56
5. Home 17:02
6. You That Mingle May 23:55
Rehearsal tape, it was only spread to friends.
Recorded on June 3rd 1991 but never officially released, thus it has no cover-artwork. The tape was released in the same month.
The track "Lovely Children" is a re-recording of "Into the Promised Land" from the Luna de Nocturnus demo.
The riff in "Into the Promised Land" was later used in Mayhem's "From the Dark Past".
The track "Home" reprises some riffs from the track "Ærie Descent" from the Trøndertun demo.
Line-up:
Snorre Westvold Ruch (aka Blackthorn) - Guitars
Harald Eilertsen - Bass
Пікірлер: 346
Snorre Ruch is the most underrated key figure in black metal history.
@whenpigsfly860
5 жыл бұрын
They made him look like such a dope in the movie.
@joshbrown1884
4 жыл бұрын
MayheM would of been even better if they got the chance to record with him.
@Xenotypal
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshbrown1884 imagine snorre euro and varg all collaborating on riffs for one band, while one of the 3 played bass. then have dead on vox and hellhammer on drums.
@drytoon820
4 жыл бұрын
@@whenpigsfly860 hello, sorry, but which movie are you talking about ?
@danielamaro1396
4 жыл бұрын
@@drytoon820 Lord of Chaos movie
true black metal riffing
Quintessential. In 1991 nobody had heard Norwegian Black Metal like this. The rest is history..
Hidden gem of black metal. In these days no one speak nothing about this band. Greets from Finland.
18:19 I can hear this riff’s influence on Dissection’s “Where Dead Angels Lie” even. Thank you for the upload!
@atmosjk
Жыл бұрын
This arpeggio is in Thorn's "Aerie Descent".
@AshenStigmata1431
6 ай бұрын
The main riff of Jesus' Tod has always reminded me of this one
Snorre is the Tony Iommi of Norwegian Black Metal - when all the planet is stealing / playing your riffs .....
@containternet9290
Жыл бұрын
Snorre learnt tremelo picking from Euronymous, he said that himself recentlly in a documentary called Helvete Historien om norsk black metal. Check this out kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqpktqyuoKjNqdI.html By this time, Snorre was just a kid.
@ia1lieutenant
Жыл бұрын
@@containternet9290 I know of this documentary and it's excellent. I think they were kind of shaping the Norse BM guitar playing together in way.
@dometelevision
Жыл бұрын
Iommi is a hack, he stole his riffs from Satan, look it up.
@MagnusOffical
Жыл бұрын
@coldacre
11 ай бұрын
heard of a person called Quorthon? he's the Tony Iommi of black metal. listen to "Satan My Master" from 1984. Snorre was still in primary school.
You just witness an important of part of black metal's history: the legendary demo tape of Thorns, which reputedly influenced black metal guitar playing technique, namely tremolo picking with minor tuning.
@AstronomyDomine
3 жыл бұрын
This was tuned down?
@zachbos5108
3 жыл бұрын
@@AstronomyDomine minor chords/scales, not tuning
@containternet9290
Жыл бұрын
Snorre learnt tremelo picking from Euronymous, he said that himself recentlly in a documentary called Helvete Historien om norsk black metal. Check this out kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqpktqyuoKjNqdI.html By this time, Snorre was just a kid.
Snorre is so underrated
Absolute magic. This is what black metal is about.
This demo brought me back to those days when this music was just emerging and it had an exciting, almost scary vibe. The rawness and the style gave it an obscure, underground, evil feel. And you would want to find a copy from somewhere. You either wrote (hand letters) to the band or knew someone who did tape trading...
The Quintessence of Black Metal, raw and cold, but very underrated unfortunately, even though it is a important piece of artwork & history
@WocklessGamingforAnimeMoms
4 жыл бұрын
Black Metal will gain traction over time.
hehehe finally spotted one of the riffs Snorre contributed to de mysteriis dom sathanas (from the dark past)
@kristianalexandersvardal2953
3 жыл бұрын
18:20 ;)
@mihahell
2 жыл бұрын
@@kristianalexandersvardal2953 dude it' not that riff, stop being stupid.
The bass is badass.. I like how it sounds in black metal it has that growl sound to it lol
@metalheadgamer80
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that a lot of Black Metal doesn’t have bass like that lol
@zbigniewiksinski
10 ай бұрын
u mean boomy mess of a sound? yeah, so black metal
Even for black metal... this is dark....
Birth of black metal.
The best black metal album that never was finished. I remember people talking about this in the early 90's
Best demo ever.
defining a whole approach to guitar playing...
Wow, beautiful. Came here after the helvete documentary..Incredible riffing
I was reading about this tape in "Black Metal Evolution of the cult" by Dayal Patterson. A very good book on the topic. This tape is just incredible, not from this world. Quintessential. Thanks for the upload.
18:18 - Ea, Lord of the Depths
Amazing sound/riffs
Who would have thought this demo would go on to inspire millions of people to play black metal across the world, it’s starting to get its proper dues but even I didn’t know about this demo until a few years ago. Now you’re starting to see more people acknowledging it’s importance which is great. We’ve all ripped off a Snorre riff or two, sometimes not even knowing it.
Without Snorre Black Metal would sound completely different. This is the man who created the guitar style still used today. No one was playing anything like this before him. Tremelo picked minor chords in a harmonic minor scale pattern or tritone patterns, occasionally chromatic, sometimes minor chords broken up into slow tremolo picked arpeggios. The kind of stuff you could put on a horror movie soundtrack. Brilliant. Edit: To those saying the riffing mentioned above was done on deathcrush, it was not. There are no trem picked minor chord arpeggios or any use of harmonic minor scale on Deathcrush. Deathcrush is all power chords, it does do some chromatic and tritone patterns with trem picking, but not the rest of the stuff that makes the Snorre riffs above unique. Mayhem didn't release anything in that specific riffing style till De Mysteriis.
@Fireglo
4 жыл бұрын
Euronymous was doing that style as early as Deathcrush though...
@Ahelphand
4 жыл бұрын
oh yeah..listen to bartok or scriabin...classical music has anticipated it ALL :-)
@veneficus582
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, but Deathcrush was the first black metal album. Bathory was not black metal
@spritefroggy
3 жыл бұрын
@@veneficus582 'Under the Sign of the Black Mark' sounds far more like a black metal album than 'Deathcrush', which even Varg says "sounded more like fun-core than black metal to us".
@veneficus582
3 жыл бұрын
@@spritefroggy Title song is black metal, Chainsaw is more Death metal-ish but overall Thorns and Mayhem invented the norwegian black metal riffing style, and that's how the genre was defined in the first place
Awesome..... Thanks, so much....
perfect guitar sound and riffing for black metal a true game changer! ice cold!
infernal sounds
Incredible work…
Classic.. never forgotten!
For those that think that Immortal is cold, this might actually freeze them... Next level, and this is coming from the pioneer of the genre!
This guy is the mastermind behind the Pagan Fears riffs
@rytkosenjussi
2 жыл бұрын
Probably best song of Mayhem.
@strayy1554
2 жыл бұрын
First songs main riff is also in From the dark past.
@containternet9290
Жыл бұрын
The mastermind behind Pagan Fears, in fact DMDS in its entirety is Euronymous whom Snorre learnt the tremolo picking from.
Just having heard about this tonight while reading a Black Metal book Evolution of the cult. Never would have heard of it. Glad I know now. Very cool stuff here.
Como será de infravalorado Thorns que ni siquiera este video tiene publicidad. Pero la calidad está ahí.
What a golden part of black metal the beginning of an era all captured here on this tape
@kalebtheloser616
Жыл бұрын
Well a lot of inspiration at least
That is so cool.
It is a clean experiment, search... Deify such moments! Enjoy, when hear, as they yet not confidently play a new sound. But, through the curtain of noise hear that quite soon accepted to take their. It is new music, distant from trash and to the death-metal, and it already wonderful!
@xisotopex
4 жыл бұрын
you are correct, interesting thought
Chilling
Pure Darkness!
@WocklessGamingforAnimeMoms
3 жыл бұрын
Don't continue to support Inquisition bro,don't defend Pop Punk when it really shouldn't be defended either.
been looking for a good,dark bass guitar sound for about a year...i finally found it...
@matsurikudo5130
8 жыл бұрын
to be honest...know that i think about it,it sounds like a improved bass tone from Infester-to the depths of degradation album
@gilsaraiva2830
8 жыл бұрын
+Matsuri Kudo You put a decnt bass like a jazz fender through your hi-fi speakers and you´ll get something very akin to this, I used to do that as a kid. Worked one summer for the bass which cost me a fortune and had to wait for the next holiday to work for the amp lol ;so I used my hi-fi and the sound was exactly like this
Hypnotizing
Together with Bathory's "Under the sign of the black mark", this demo is rocket fuel for an international genre.
Fantastic
just wow
This has to be most dark and menacing shit I’ve ever heard
Perfection
History right there
Bewildering journey unto nowhere.
Riff magic at 19:36
@dudeok5978
7 жыл бұрын
This whole demo is some riff magic!
@herrnoatun882
5 жыл бұрын
Listen to Alphaville - A Victory of Love. He stole the riff, so we can thank synthpop for having an influence over Black Metal
@Fireglo
4 жыл бұрын
@@herrnoatun882 it's a melody not a riff.
@atavism-dream
4 жыл бұрын
@@Fireglo "This is music, not a demo"
@Fireglo
4 жыл бұрын
@@herrnoatun882 I'd hardly call it "stealing" this is just a non-profit demo of him messing around with some riffs and melodies.
Sick!!!!!
Guitar and bass only 👏🏻
impressionante...a frieza dessas canções...nota 10
@danielrodriguesbra6539
7 жыл бұрын
100
You really have to be dark minded to create this kind of art. Damn
Mayhem should reincorporate Snorre, he is part of Mayhem's sound and soul for sure... wether people know it or not. Respect for this rarely mentioned BM genius
@zachbos5108
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Varg should join as well :)
@Skurk12498
Жыл бұрын
@@zachbos5108 no
@dEAthlikEstAtic
2 ай бұрын
yes, 2bass players & multiple guitars.
So "Home" is essentially what became "Aerie Descent"
True Low-budget Norwegian Black Metal. Corpse sound at its peak. Nothing sounds sicker than this. Not even Burzum, Mayhem, Amputation, Old Funeral and Darkthrone together. Sick sick sick sick sick... I´d love a digital modeling of the Boss DS-2 and the portable 4-track mini studio to be able to achieve this sick sound in the current guitar processors like Helix, Axe Fx 3, Kemper, Tone Master Pro, etc.
Esto es black metal en su forma más pura
18:18 this is exactly how a new genre is born, why they called it true and norwegian, because it's very different to what venom, celtic frost or bathory had to offer. A werewolf appears.
@silversorgo5482
5 ай бұрын
But Deathcrush is from 1987 or it's not second wave of black metal?
@vrombo
5 ай бұрын
@@silversorgo5482 deathrush 💩💩💩
Whoa! How did you get your hands on this?
@Argflugan
9 жыл бұрын
***** See my reply to JamaWest.
0:00 to 1:20 is From the Dark Past by Mayhem
Qué belleza!!!
is it the bass guitar thats making the rumbling dissonance? it almost sounds like a gun sometimes. legendary stuff right here
@aymanlafaz
3 жыл бұрын
yes
Very good
3:41 That's why I came here...
@victorwho744
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's an absolutely amazing riff
It says that "The riff in "Into the Promised Land" was later used in Mayhem's "From the Dark Past" however that is not listed as one of the songs in the track list. Any idea which track it would be?
@diogosantos4283
3 жыл бұрын
"Lovely Children" is the re-recording of "Into the Promised Land"
Is it me or do I see cloud strife walking into a village in final fantasy 7 at 18:30? Come on the music is identical
@kristianalexandersvardal2953
3 жыл бұрын
It is the riff on From the dark past by Mayhem
yesssss! fucking amazing
this is so fucking good
A lot of those riffs are in the split with Emperor
@kristianalexandersvardal2953
3 жыл бұрын
No, Snorre Ruch used them on Di Mysteriis
"Yeah sure, Varg...I'm sure nothing bad will happen..."
Wish this masterpiece was on spotify
@rangerwhiskeybreath4935
4 жыл бұрын
I hope that's a joke!
@dimas.8300
3 жыл бұрын
@@rangerwhiskeybreath4935 Why is it bad for people to easily access good music?
@soygan
3 жыл бұрын
streaming services sucks
@Mitchery
3 жыл бұрын
@@soygan Up your arse! 👆
@oxypill
Жыл бұрын
@@soygan *is on youtube streaming music*
its pretty rippin
The darkest piece of metal history. Even darker than black metal it shelf.
@atavism-dream
4 жыл бұрын
Listen to "Dark Metal" by Bethlehem
@beastmother9437
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Bethlehem too 👍
How do I get to these places? Just lucky I guess.
in the words of a good friend of mine "this album is how Sunn o))) should've done "black one" I agree
@FetalJuice88
6 жыл бұрын
Alexander creswell sunn shouldn’t do ANYTHING, the rip off artists they are
Anyone know where you can get a copy of this?
@Argflugan
9 жыл бұрын
JamaWest You can't, it was never officially released as a tape with artwork. It has been reissued on CD/LP on Kyrck Productions later, though. See here.www.metal-archives.com/albums/Thorns/Stigma_Diabolicum/176884 and www.kyrck-productions.st05.net/main.html .
@gilsaraiva2830
8 жыл бұрын
+JamaWest I have it as the stigma diabolicum cd which includes this demo. Great cd to own and quite limited too.
@reddyenumber2
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this comment! I just bought the CD!
Amazing classic stuff 🤘🤘🤘🤘
@ignaciosatanizado
3 жыл бұрын
Shut up fuckin bot
@Mitchery
3 жыл бұрын
@@ignaciosatanizado Tu culo.
with 2 pictures of Bard Faust who's not on this recording
can someone cover these songs with a full band? would love to hear it.
@boubou230910
8 жыл бұрын
+centerrightpunk I know what you mean, I would love too to hear from a proper band these songs, but I think that this material has its magic within its raw nature. And must stay as it.
@lightningrod3331
7 жыл бұрын
Mayhem used the riffs from Lovely Children in From the Dark Past off De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (1994). It's fucking good metal.
so snorre is from the group thorns....i did not know that. rhis is interesting the plot thickens in the bm world.
KVLT
Demon really went ahhhh eeeee sssss eeeeeaha
Fairytales.... yeah right!
Father of black metal
The intro kinda reminds me of a song from DMDS from mayhem.
@ahagjkbav5563
4 жыл бұрын
That riff was used by Euromymous on DMDS album
@containternet9290
Жыл бұрын
@@ahagjkbav5563 Snorre learnt tremelo picking from Euronymous, he said that himself recentlly in a documentary called Helvete Historien om norsk black metal. Check this out at 13:00 minute kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqpktqyuoKjNqdI.html By this time, Snorre was just a kid.
Too bad he was involved in the murder of Euronymous... Thorns and Stigma Diabolicum were really great bands. By the way, according to Fenriz, Snorre along with Euronymous pioneered the original tremolo-picking Norwegian Black Metal riffing style.
@samwisebagcheese7207
Жыл бұрын
Being that he and Euro had an Avant Garde band together long before the murder, I doubt he had much to do with it other than just physically being there.
@containternet9290
Жыл бұрын
Snorre learnt tremelo picking from Euronymous, he said that himself recentlly in a documentary called Helvete Historien om norsk black metal. Check this out at 13:00 minute kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqpktqyuoKjNqdI.html By this time, Snorre was just a kid.
@BjrnOlavLeraand
Жыл бұрын
@@containternet9290 yeah he for sure learnt it from Euro, but he then improved it together with Euro also
17:02 Dominus Sathanas - Burzum
cult!
man these riffs are so fucked up and evil sounding- Snorre is the fucking man
músicos monstruosos...
Who is on the cover i wasn't sure Snorre or Faust ?
@JaimeGarcia-gl2tk
Жыл бұрын
Looks like Faust.
Is it me or Fairytales sounds a little bit like Dunkelheit?
192 !!!!!
18:50
Snorre and Euronymous were the two fathers of the black metal sound. I wish the one of the two who's still alive would put out some instrumental work nowadays. I'd mean the end of all these shitty hipster metal bands that exist nowadays for scrawny fucking poser children.
@elpeluca7780
7 жыл бұрын
Demiror Moritur you sound pretentious and dumb as hell
@elpeluca7780
4 жыл бұрын
@GXZaeroX sos groso, SAPBEEEE
@hayleymilligan9404
4 жыл бұрын
wrong
@elpeluca7780
4 жыл бұрын
@@hayleymilligan9404 damn it's been 3 years
@rytkosenjussi
2 жыл бұрын
What about Varg? Or bands in sweden and Finland..
Darkness, unexpected.
Thule
Most interesting thing about this release...no drums!
@Alexander_Tronstad
3 жыл бұрын
There´s a new norwegian documentary out on the black-metal scene, where Snorre explains it. There was supposed to be drums and vocals, this tape was just the first part of something that should be a full record, but it leaked out and stuff got in the way so it was never finished.
@thetruemusichead
3 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander_Tronstad woah intersting. I will look it up. Know what its called?
@Alexander_Tronstad
3 жыл бұрын
@@thetruemusichead Well it´s called Helvete and is a 5-part series that tries to - again - explain the history of Norwegian black metal. I don´t think you will find it anywhere since it is in Norwegian, released on the state-channel, NRK, just recently and exclusively there as far as I know. (tv.nrk.no/serie/helvete). It gets a lot of history straight from members of Mayhem, but apart from the usual focus on Jørns story it also gets into a fairly big chunk with demonstrations from Snorre himself who plays and explains what went into the making of the legendary black-metal riffs (that he created with Aarseth) and typical Mayhem sound. It´s very obvious that Aarseth and Ruch were the ones creating that iconic sound, and that segment is a great reveal of the entire process in it´s banality but it feels like you are there when he shows it. You get a very real sense that this segment really restores some history. This is the only surviving member and mind behind that whole guitar-feel that are so essential to how we came to know that music. This together with revisits into Grieghallen with Hellhammer and Atilla and Pytten is brilliant - the musical perspective was by far the most interesting bit. Also It´s good to get some views from Pelles brother, and some of the ones who were there to clarify and share their experiences and feelings is okay, all-though that part is kind of.. the interesting part to me is what went into the music you know, and maybe new info, so the more it drifts into bands that try to sell themselves as in that furnace when they really seem to just want to be part of the feast after, the less interesting it is. Unfortunately despite the documentary being really good and had a "straight from the horses-mouth" approach, and seemed to care a great deal about being accurate about a very chaotic piece of history, it seems rather obvious that they ran out of time and/or budget somewhere during the last couple of episodes of the 4-part series, and they made a horrible mess of nonsense that they try to sell you as the state of the black-metal scene post De Mysteriis that is just useless, inaccurate and cheap unfortunately.
@thetruemusichead
3 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander_Tronstad Dang dude, thanks for the write up! I actually found it! There is eng subtitled links for dl in the comments too, kzread.info/dash/bejne/ho6E0s-AZ6a4o8o.html
@TheSlamDancer
3 жыл бұрын
Nettopp sett Helvete, artig med litt innblikk fra kjernen.
Tremelo originality.
LLN blueprint
at the end of this i go with my shitted pants to cry in front of satan
@gasmaskedgenocide
8 жыл бұрын
LOL