Would you pay that much for this watch?

@FreshlySnipes

Жыл бұрын

5 shekels

@MrTruckerf

Жыл бұрын

No.

@dannylukic6536

Жыл бұрын

I wish I had that much for a watch. But yes! ha ha

@JohnSmith-ei2pz

Жыл бұрын

Nothing! No one wears them anymore!

@robertbrowne7880

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

For those of you that haven't spent time there, this is about as emotional as a Brit ever gets. He was seriously shocked and moved by the value.

@golden.lights.twinkle2329

Жыл бұрын

Nowadays, they jump up and down and lot and exclaim "Woo, woo!".

@tobyrutter3776

Жыл бұрын

@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 we don't do that i think you maybe thinking of americans

@gavinbissell8847

Жыл бұрын

Raising an eyebrow is putting on a show, have some dignity

@ednammansfield8553

Жыл бұрын

A wonderful watch. The owner was totally shocked when he got the valuation and I think many other people would be too. I hope he will have a good insurance for it and keep it safe.

@rage8kage

Жыл бұрын

The only thing that moves a brit is money

My jaw dropped the moment i heard "minute repeater". This watch is priceless in todays market.

@tesmat1243

11 ай бұрын

Especially considering the size of that thing

@daburamajin-su4gv

4 ай бұрын

how much do you think as a rough guess

@Lomedae

Ай бұрын

@@daburamajin-su4gv One recently was sold for 158,000 CHF. That's about 139,000 GBP, or 161,000 EUR. Great appriciation in value, considering 50,000 GBP from 1991 would be about 110,000 GBP today

@votpavel

8 күн бұрын

what is so special about this minute repeater thing ?

@wertj3977

6 күн бұрын

​​@@votpavel Its not only one of the oldest watch complications, but also one of the most difficult and labour intensive. It chimes the time using miniature gongs which are controlled by a regulator and gearworks that calculate the time. A modern repeater can range from $100,000 to $20,000,000 depending on the brand and comolexity.

Dang grandpop was just strolling around with a minute repeater on his wrist. What an heirloom. Makes my collection that my son will inherit look pedestrian

A minute repeater in that thin of a case. That's incredible!

@wholeNwon

Жыл бұрын

Imagine how amazing they were in 1790's Paris when great watches were built by subscription.

@ZesPak

5 ай бұрын

@@wholeNwon As far as I know, there were literally 0 wrist watches in 1790?

@wholeNwon

5 ай бұрын

@@ZesPak Funny. I was referring to the pocket watches of A. L. Breguet who invented a striking movement in 1783.

@uncooked_ham

4 ай бұрын

@@wholeNwon Yeah you tell him. What a prick.

Saw that episode in 1991. Blown away by the valuation. Always stuck in my mind. To see the clip 33 yrs later, one wonders: a) where the watch is today b) what is its valuation today?

I'd call that a proper tank watch. Simply stunning!

@RataStuey

8 ай бұрын

Proper tank?😊

A solid gold minute repeater is never going to be cheap.

@votpavel

8 күн бұрын

what makes it very sought after, what is a minute repeater?

This time next year Rodney, we'll be millionaires!

I was about 16 when I saw that episode and I've always loved watches especially grande complications such as this this one. I was recently thinking of that very special square minute repeater and wondered if I'd ever see it again. Im delighted to see this video. I thought it was valued at £40k but it was £50k. I follow high end watch auctions and I've never seen a watch like it for sale but I'd reckon it would sell for £300k-£500k probably more. Those that say it's worth nothing don't know the market value of such things. Absolutely gorgeous piece.

@TheNotoriousKID

Жыл бұрын

That’s not a grand complication, it’s a time only watch that includes a minute repeater complication, and as remarkable as a minute repeater is, for a watch to be considered a grand complication, it has to include several complications besides just the minute repeater, like a chronograph, a perpetual calendar, power reserve, moon-phase etc etc.

@Astragoth2

9 ай бұрын

@@johnpoulter could be a Jaeger-le Coultre. Remember they often supllied movements to the companies you mentioned in those days.

@OscarOSullivan

5 ай бұрын

Quite a lot for an ebauche watch

This footage is so old it can star in a newer antique roadshow.

@barbarasch6611

2 ай бұрын

😂

For reference 50k pounds in 1991 was about $85,000 USD. In todays dollars that would be about $190,000.

@pjhelbig

Жыл бұрын

Assuming anybody would want this in today's market.

@paulfitzgerald7513

Жыл бұрын

@@pjhelbig And why wouldn’t they? The rich have always got money to waste.

@jasonantigua6825

Жыл бұрын

@@paulfitzgerald7513 They all have the flash without the bang

@alexanderstefanov6474

Жыл бұрын

The watch market was dead in 1991, that watch is worth over £500k in todays market

@pistonburner6448

Жыл бұрын

My research says it would be worth £108,426 today, which would be $134,437.

This is why we watch and love The Antiques Roadshow.

This watch is a masterpiece. Absolutely incredible to have that in the family.

Congrats! It's nice to see good things happening to a good bloke.

@MrTruckerf

Жыл бұрын

Well....he didn't sell it. It is an heirloom so will stay in the family. Price really makes no difference to him.

@kingy002

Жыл бұрын

How do you know he is a "good bloke"? Do you know him personally?

My heart was racing the whole time ❤❤❤❤❤❤ 😅😅😅 and I gasped at the end. Gorgeous Gorgeous Gorgeous 😍

Never in a million years would I have guessed this watch had a minute repeater inside

He looks like a nice humble guy good luck to him

For those who aren’t horology nerds, the minute repeater is the single most difficult mechanism to build into a watch

@MezzoForte4

Жыл бұрын

Had to look up what it even was. That is actually incredible to have resting on a wrist.

@OscarOSullivan

5 ай бұрын

Used to be used for telling the time in the dark before lume paint

WONDERFUL!!!

He had no idea how beautiful his watch is.

3:02 *Love how appraiser (dry even by British standards) totally head-fakes & stuns the owner.*

@hermanjacobs4425

Жыл бұрын

He suggested that the owner should consider selling it in the market given its assessed value. Because It would be difficult for people to sell off their family heirlooms even if they are worth thousands or millions unless they were cash stripped to the hilts.

In 1991, you could buy a house pretty comfortably for around £50k. A decent semi in a nice area. That same house could be sold today in the U.K., for £250-350k. Just shows the value and appreciation of assets at the right time. Someone, elsewhere in the comments shows you the watch value in dollars and price equivalence today.

@hewoguys2506

Жыл бұрын

and have change

@marlonthomas8042

Жыл бұрын

Exactly These inflation comparisons while useful don’t give the whole picture 4 bed semi on my street would have probably been 30k back then Now goes for 220k+ One sold in like 99 I think for 60 1991 was recession era too

@TG-ts3xn

Жыл бұрын

A £50k house in 1991 is worth about £600k today 😅

@Jammil2477

Жыл бұрын

@@marlonthomas8042 I think the recession bit was mid 90s with Major.

@marlonthomas8042

Жыл бұрын

@@Jammil2477 dunno I was born early 80’s but I reneged everyone being broke when I grew up You might be right though

When are you going to produce a reboot of a similar show, for watches only? The watch market has gained a lot of interest recently and I'm sure a lot of people would be keen on watching something like this today!

@JohnSmith-ki2eq

11 ай бұрын

Nice idea but it'll never happen, the appeal of watches isn't broad enough to warrant a stand alone show, not on the BBC, however it might be possible on one of the freeview channels or online.

Great watch ...

The way he spoke about the watch is the same way a chef talks about his food.

What an awesome reaction :) I wonder where it ended up

nice watch

Beautiful movement 😍

I thought it was a banger BEFORE he said it was a minute repeater 🔥🔥🔥

Bravo

smallest repeater watch I have ever seen, stunning. I wonder where it is now? 🙄

My mother-in-law is a minute repeater... she needs to eat every minute, bless her 300 lb. heart.

50K and he's opening it like he's shucking an oyster

@mulemule

Жыл бұрын

Right? I almost spit out my coffee! (Even tiny pry marks can impact value.)

@paulfitzgerald7513

Жыл бұрын

@@mulemule He knows more about watches than you are ever likely to… he knows exactly what he’s doing!

@mulemule

Жыл бұрын

@@paulfitzgerald7513 True. Which makes his actions all the more unfortunate.

@paulfitzgerald7513

Жыл бұрын

@@mulemule He’s an expert in his field, he won’t have damaged the watch at all…

@alexanderstefanov6474

Жыл бұрын

Watch John goldberger open much more valuable ones with a cheese knife after rubbing it clean on his sleeve

Christopher Walken can tell you the story of the watch.

@mulemule

Жыл бұрын

Honestly? He was kind of an a^^-hole about it though. 🤷‍♂

@littlerascals6529

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@TheCorrectionist1984

Жыл бұрын

... He died of dysentery he gimme the watch...

@touchofdumb

Жыл бұрын

the band isn’t original so…

@HELLO-iq5rb

Жыл бұрын

😂

Would be great if the Road Show could be done in the medieval town of Chillingbourne.

This pro has a very strong clock game

Back when people were not as protective with their timepieces, a lot of patina for a 50 K GBP watch. The bracelet appears to be after-market, no guff.

Gubelin so underrated today

I knew the guy had it made as soon as I saw the movement calibre, the quality of finish and the expert confirmed it’s provenance as genuine. When he mentioned the minute repeater complication and it’s evolution by Patek, and Vacheron Constantin, just 2 of the 3 big names in the Swiss watchmaking ‘holy trinity’ (the other is Audemars Piguet) I knew it was something rare and very valuable. Then with it being sold by a highly reputable high end Swiss jewellery house - Gubelin along with their own name on the dial and alongside the jewellery hallmark reference within the case, it was always going to command a high valuation.

@tesmat1243

11 ай бұрын

The fact alone that is a minute repeater puts it into the tens of thousands

A minute repeater that skinny? Christ alive! That's a find and a half! I hope he kept it.

I remember this

Rodney trotters done well

I have a Gubelin Ipso automatic and i can surely say the watch is a piece of Art

@jonathanjoensen2679

Жыл бұрын

Not compareable at all to the minute repeating watch in the video!! It’s actually an Audemars Piguet watch retailed by Gübelin. Both case, dial, hands, and movement are manufactured and finished by Audemars Piguet. A minute repeating wristwatch made by Audemars Piguet, Vacheron&Constantin, or Patek Philippe, and retailed by Gübelin, Tiffany, or similar retailer would by worth from around 30.000 and up depending on condition. Back in the early 1900 there was a recession in the US, and taxes were laid upon imported luxury items. To avoid taxes high end swiss watch manufacturers either supplied movements or complete watches but not branded, and then they were sold with the retailers brand. In this case it’s a known Audemars Piguet model in original condition. Dial has not been reprinted/redialed, hands and crown original, and the case not overpolished. I agree wtih the valuation! Your Gübelin Ipso-matic is a common watch with a basic Eta cal.2472 movement. If its in 18k gold it’s worth the weight of gold no more.. Do not compare your watch to this watch..

@mpinto79

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanjoensen2679 I did not compare my watch to this but for me personally yes my watch is much more beautiful I have a Gubelin Ipso-Matic Triple Calendar & Moonphase Automatic, cal.11 1/2 and yes it is in yellow gold and in terms of price it's priceless as it was given to me by my grandfather

@d.beaumont9157

Жыл бұрын

​@jonathanjoensen2679 I liked your detailed description of this watch. It was very interesting and informative, but I was disappointed to see you suggest that mpinto was comparing his watch to this watch in the show. Such a disingenuous and arrogant quip was un called for. It rather sowered your whole reply.

@jonathanjoensen2679

Жыл бұрын

@@mpinto79 I’m glad to hear it holds a high affection value to you personally. I just wanted to point out that the minute repeating watch appearing in the video is comparable to a Ferrari branded as a Fiat. In fact the much sought after Ferrari 246 GTS Dino were originally only sold as Dino 246 GTS. They had 6 cylinder engines and Enzo figured they might harm the Ferrari brand if sold as Ferraris. The Dino name actually came from his son passing away tragically. For several decades owners put Ferrari badges on them despite the fact that they were sold without Ferrari badges. Then the tables turned! Collectors looking for original unmolested cars prefered cars without th Ferrari badge in as original state as possible. All of a sudden Dino 246 GTS owner were peeling the unoriginal Ferrari badges of again. In short at Dino 246 GTS with no Ferrari badge was selling for a premium price whilst same car with a Ferrari badge would sell for less😂 The minute repeating Audemars Piguet watch in the video is produced in a time when artisans working at AP had nothing but time to spare. The attention to detail and all handcrafted on the latte as CNC machining wasn’t available at the time is just stunning! Modern calibers from AP lack are nowhere near as detailed. As an example let’s have a look at the anglage applied on this movement. If you a avoid inner corners on the bridges most anglage can be applied with a handheld router. But as soon as we are talking inner corners it gets way more complexed to apply anglage. If you cut two pieces of profiled wood in a miter saw at a 45° degrees angle and match them together, you will notice that the profiled edges will also match up perfectly in a 90° angle. But if you have a router and try to route the profile on two 45° allready assembled pieces of wood you will notice that the profile will not go all the way into the 90° angle. There will always be a 1/4 arc left as the router bit is rotating an thus will leave an arc of material that will have to be chiselled away if you want the same appearance you would get from assembling two preprofiled pieces of wood cut in 45°. That problem is the same when applying angle (rounded edge) on the movement bridged. A router bit will always leave an arc and that arc can only be filed away by manual labour. Try it in a piece of soft wood and you will see how difficult it is to remove this arc of unwanted material and blackpolish the anglage edge. Some of the bridges would even have multible inner corners. If the anglager messed one corner he would have to throw the bridge in the trash can and start all over again. On top of that comes the Cotes de Geneve stripes that would have to be applied in such a manner that geneva stripes match up perfectly from bridge to bridge. If you screw of a bridge younwill notice it is numbered on the underside hence that only matching numbers will fit on the movement platin to reveal a consistancy in the geneva stripes. Today machines do a lot of this work and the finish is simplified imensly. That doesn’t mean that finish isn’t as good as it used to be. It means that there is significantly less timeconsuming finish applied to movements today compared to the past.

@RobespierreChelsea

Жыл бұрын

Nobody is reading that. Making an anology about a ferarri does not require half an essay.

Nothing sounds smarter than a British dude who smacks his lips while waxing poetic. Awesome stuff

Rick from Pawn stars would offer you $75.00 US dollars and he would take all the risk!!

@Itsisawnotiseen

14 күн бұрын

He would have to clean it up and it’s going to sit around for a long time. That’s the best he can do.

A minute repeater is crazy, especially in something this tiny and old.

This watch has been in my family for years. ...How much is it worth?! Sold!

@melvynparkerson9984

Жыл бұрын

Why not !

Never saw such smaĺl minute repeteur !

Hope he didn't sell it, will be worth a fortune all these years later.

50k, back then HUGE

1991, “ let’s hope the market stays that way”😂haha

Anyone casually removing and seemingly touching the movement on any of my watches is getting a thrashing.

$50,000. That's insane. My grandfather had a watch like this. I'm going to start digging for it now.

@collisw8302

Жыл бұрын

Adjusted for inflation it's about 107,000 pounds!

@revo1974

Жыл бұрын

@@collisw8302 Good luck finding someone to pay you that amount. Its value is what someone is willing to pay for it.

@collisw8302

Жыл бұрын

@@revo1974 yeah you're probably right, I was just saying. But also having something featured on the roadshow has been known to increase the sale value. Also this dude said it was a family heirloom so he's probably never going to sell it.

@DukeMundi

Жыл бұрын

@@revo1974 it’s hilarious when people like yourself announce information so boldly as if you are acquainted with high value rare items. People need to learn how to stay quiet when a subject they know nothing about is being brought up. It’s obvious you don’t collect, stay silent and don’t pretend you’re not broke. It’s value far exceeds 100,000 pounds

@revo1974

Жыл бұрын

@@DukeMundi What’s hilarious is when someone on the internet makes claims about another person without knowing anything at all about them, such as you have. Everything I wrote is factually. I own numerous high end watches. My most valuable is a VC Overseas. Finding a buyer of a high value classical watch is very difficult. And once again it’s value-the value of anything for that matter-is what someone is will to pay you for it.

Beautiful timepiece. Wonder what the value would be today in 2023. If anyone knows a rough value please do reply! Would love to know

@AnthonySmith-sc4zs

Жыл бұрын

Somebody else said close to $200,000 usd

@tesmat1243

11 ай бұрын

​@@AnthonySmith-sc4zs I thought too

My fathers father wore it and passed it with love to my father and then him with love to me hoping id pass it to one of my children with the same love Going going gone.

And £50k in 1991?? In case anyone overseas was wondering, you could buy several houses for that in the UK back then. Nowadays £50k isn’t enough for a deposit 😂

When was this filmed?

So this was from 1991. To try and put it in perspective with today's prices, think how much house could be bought for 50k back then? Impressive.....

Thats £140,000 roughly today...

Still a lesson worth learning……a watch’s true value depends what powers it. So many high end (high priced) Swiss watches have the same movement as others less fashionable, thus cheaper.

@porschecollector727

Жыл бұрын

Also a dial

@jonathanjoensen2679

Жыл бұрын

in this case it’s an Audemars Piguet watch! Both case, dial/hands, and movement is manufactured by Audemars Piguet and retailed by Gübelin(most likely to the US market in early 1920) Common practise back the as a recession in US meant that taxes were layed upon imported luxury items. In a way to avoid taxes high end Swiss watch manufacturers supllied either complete watches (like in this case) or a a high grade movement. Thus the item was considered an US manufactured item not deemed to be taxed. But not all Gübelin, Tiffany etc watches are valuable..

@yerrie1908

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanjoensen2679 I should have read you comment before I found the watch in a hodinkee article, that watch is in the AP archives/museum, interesting to know how many there are and what the value might be, you know or any idea ?

@yerrie1908

Жыл бұрын

@Lee Tell that to Hublot

@LordDavid04

Жыл бұрын

No there's a number of factors. Maker, design, movement, features, complications etc. If a watch has a mass produced movement like an entry level ETA, then it would be worth less than one that has a movement made in house, or even a modified one.

This was back in the 90s

Antique Road Show should help people out in KZread. Of what items we found. Some things are hard to figure if it is antique or mass produced

@synchronicity1470

11 ай бұрын

a marvelous proposal!

0:02 He can say that again.

Well done Rodney

I’d give a good full moonie for it

I will go 50 bucks, and not a penny more. Sweet! Go write him up Chum

@tonygreenaway1742

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@johncopeland3826

Жыл бұрын

Awesum......

'I never joke, double o seven'...

50 thousand = put it up for auction !

Anyone know the year/model number of this watch?

In today’s terms, that’s probably £250k!

3:16 I'll just collect my jaw from the floor

Da Host sounded like He would love to have that Watch!!

@MrTruckerf

Жыл бұрын

He never gave it back.

"WHOT :O"

If i remember correctly the E.U brought in a national minimum wage to be inline with the rest of Europe around 1992 of £3.60. So ill be using that as a refference. The monthly average wage based on 8x5x4. Was around 576, which means that a yearly wage was around 6900. Which means it would take lets say in an ideal world no loss of job consistant work very little sick days, and after N.I and Tax had been taken around 8-9 years to buy that watch.

@JohnSmith-ki2eq

11 ай бұрын

To put it into context, in 1991 £50,000 would easily buy you a three bed semi... maybe even a detached house in the right part of the country, now it's not even the deposit.

And just like that, another family heirloom was sold off.

I wonder why the dial had no maker's mark.

So in 2023 it's easily worth over 100k. Incredible.

@johnm9845

5 ай бұрын

Bank of England inflation calculator suggests figure of over £110K. But,given how interest and market in valuable watches has grown since that was broadcast I would say much more particularly so because of rarity of movement.

29 jewels= top end

By looking at the clothes that they were wearing I’m saying this is probably an 80s in that amount of money could buy a house a decent house so sorry dad sorry pop up I’m selling that damn watch and buying myself a house paid for outright. Love you guys and thanks.

A white gold minute repeater made by Audemars Piguet for Gubelin... how much will it be worth today?!

@MrTruckerf

Жыл бұрын

To me, $100.

@wholeNwon

Жыл бұрын

MORE

Was it sold ? 50,000 in 1991 was a lot.

@Jo-yp8wy

Жыл бұрын

£ 137,141 today according to a calculator for 1991. But I expect prices have changed. I just hope he sold the watch then.

@austinjordan5154

Жыл бұрын

@@Jo-yp8wy fingers crossed he did Jo 🤞

Minute repeaters are kinda special they're not all that common they're UNGODLY complicated

How much is it worth now?

That could be a life changing sum of money to the right person; it's not just a watch, it is a non-performing asset that can be utilized.

I think this fella just swallowed a tooth when he was told about the 50k.

Opening the watch with his little knife is like saying “I’ll open the engine compartment of this McLaren F1 with a crowbar”

So small! It's a minute minute repeater.

£50k back then could have bought you a four bedroom detached house, wouldn’t even cover a deposit today

Filmed in 1991 when fifty thousand was fifty thousand.

What year was this? Looks like late 80s fifty grand then must surely be worth around 200 now.

@FOGDaheee

Жыл бұрын

1991, it tells you in the video description.

@MrTruckerf

Жыл бұрын

1947. The description is wrong.

Today it's probably worth way more than that

£50,000?????😮

@Silver_Owl

Жыл бұрын

And that was way back in 1991! For comparison, the average house price in the UK was about 57,000 then. (I bought a terraced house in the mid 90s for less than 30k). I remember watching this when it first aired, and being astonished.

And this must have been filmed 25-30 years ago….

@atom999

Жыл бұрын

1991 as per description

The UK

Wow about €120,000 in todays money

2:25 Pretty sure you can see the damage done to the gold case-back with the steel knife blade. I don’t see why that was necessary and I feel like he would know better.

@HarryFlashman.

Жыл бұрын

He's an expert, he knows what he's doing.

@gorkajames6475

Жыл бұрын

@@HarryFlashman. He is not a watchmaker. He does not know what he’s doing.

@mindspinn311

Жыл бұрын

@@HarryFlashman. Steel knife blade prying open 18k gold. Doesn’t take an expert to know what’s going to happen.

@MrTruckerf

Жыл бұрын

I would still give him 100 bucks for it, and that's way more than I've ever paid for a watch. I don't even have a watch; I use my phone.

@mindspinn311

Жыл бұрын

@@MrTruckerf Gold value alone would be far more than that. Try wearing a watch. It’s still more practical than looking at your phone, and it’s less time looking at a screen. No I don’t mean a smart watch. Watches are enjoyable.

Wonder how much its worth today

£50k is like 2billion today

£50K that’s 1991!

@alexanderstefanov6474

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and it's not just inflation. Back in 1991 no one was investing in watches, for a comparison a Patek 1518 could be had for around £30-40k then, now the most common yellow gold ones go for over £250k, a steel one sold for £9m about 3 years ago, the same watch sat in a new York dealers window for years unsold for 18k dollars back in the late 1980s. This watch is actually a rare Breguet repeating wristwatch, so probably one of two or three, I would imagine it would go for at least £250k in the right auction