Commenters: “You’re using it wrong, they clearly did NOT intend for you to ever use the keyboard while it’s mounted!” The packaging shown in the video at 0:55 sure implies otherwise.

@Those_Weirdos

Жыл бұрын

That same document even says "Allows keyboard use in place".

@vwestlife

Жыл бұрын

It was designed for the alternate reality in which the light pen became the preferred input device.

@cairsahrstjoseph996

Жыл бұрын

It's a relic, you could not have known!

@arcticrevrus9883

Жыл бұрын

thats a bullet point use, but i think its *primary* use is to be able to pick your keyboard up and out of the way so you can do paperwork where the keyboard would normally sit, while also not making the computer *entirely* useless by leaving the keyboard in a...barely usable position

@mattx5499

Жыл бұрын

@@arcticrevrus9883 Maybe it would be useful in some lab environment or something. And people saying that it wasn't meant for using your keyboard when it sits in the holder are dumb.

YAY! OMG we made it on LGR! Here is some more backstory: My VERY eccentric Uncle Bob (yes, Bob is, or was, my uncle) passed away and Tony and I were helping my mother clean out the house when we found this gem. We looked at each other and went "LGR" . What Clint didn't mention, and I can't remember if we put in the letter, is that part of the reason we checked the patents was, for a somewhat horrified moment, it occurred to me that Uncle Bob might have BEEN the inventor/patent filer (he was not). But given he actually had a few patents on random items it was not out of the realm of possibility. He was _that_ type of eccentric Uncle, mad inventor type of guy. Thanks Clint - great to know we were able to contribute in a small way to the channel!

@Khanemis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sending this Clint's way! It was certainly oddly entertaining. A bit of shame he didn't use it for his Christmas gadget special, these moose antlers would hold that festive lights perfectly:D

@sinisterthoughts2896

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for contributing so we could all enjoy!

@JaredConnell

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a cool guy! Do you have any of his inventions that might be the topic of an lgr video or blerb? If so send it in!!

@DaleyKreations

Жыл бұрын

@@JaredConnell Unfortunately not. I think he invented some sort of device for holding brooms, rakes, etc in a garage or shed. Nothing LGR appropriate.

'I haven't been a puppeteer in years, but when I _did_ do that..." - New LGR Lore unlocked

@Squonk06

Жыл бұрын

No kidding. I literally paused the video and exclaimed, "Wait, what?!" when he revealed that. So we know that in his past lives he was a picture framer and now a puppeteer, as well as his turn refurbing and selling old computers which contributed to him eventually starting LGR. He's a man of many vocations, it would seem.

@KzintiCV

Жыл бұрын

Big TIL moment

@suborbitalprocess

Жыл бұрын

@@Squonk06 spoiler alert; he was doing frames and selling computers _while_ wearing the puppets

@Ash0512

Жыл бұрын

@@Squonk06and lived in the Caribbean

@LGRBlerbs

Жыл бұрын

a puppeteer _in_ the Caribbean, no less

It hurts to use but a Klingon warrior does not complain about physical discomfort

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

What? isn't that why they are always grumpy though..?

This keyboard holder has proven its strength by holding the keyboard in place during battle with Clint, it is truly a warrior worthy of the Klingon name. Qapla'!

the claimed trademark on the package got me curious so i looked it up with the US Patent and Trademark office. They filed for a trademark on Oct 4th 1990 and Paramount Pictures challenged the filing and the trademark was terminated in under a year on August 8th 1991.

@KCBAIRS

Жыл бұрын

The question is, did you need to get your keyboard out of the way, to accomplish this sleuthing? LOL!

@Diggnuts

Жыл бұрын

That seems really odd. First of all, this product in not in the same discipline as paramount and the wording actually makes sense. Phonetically calling it "cling on", albeit with a K and no space is apparent.

@alakani

Жыл бұрын

@@Diggnuts That's adorable you think laws apply to people with money :p Some people can't legally use their own last name on anything business related regardless of industry

@sanityormadness

Жыл бұрын

@@Diggnuts The legal system works by Rules of Acquisition, not codes of honour.

@Diggnuts

Жыл бұрын

@@sanityormadness Rules of acquisition! Yes Quark! Apart from that, many (civilized) countries have rules of such nature. Just do not know about CA or the USA.

Holding your keyboard in the most glorious way possible. Kahless himself would use these. Qapla'!

@Nihilius87

Жыл бұрын

👌

@thruthenever

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps today is a good day to type.

@MasumiOfficial

Жыл бұрын

Glory to you and your keyboard.

@rinhato8453

Жыл бұрын

And it's out of the way in case you spill your blood wine!

@suborbitalprocess

Жыл бұрын

If the adhesive fails, your keyboard is going to Sto'Vo'Kor!

I got excited there for a minute: I thought it was a keyboard for the Klingon language. 😂

@scaper8

Жыл бұрын

Same. Simultaneously disappointed and elated.

@marklarner4495

Жыл бұрын

Same

You are correct about the adhesive tape being 3M. The pattern of the protective film is a match for Scotch 3M 311DC Mounting Squares.

@daveraschke

8 ай бұрын

God bless you sir and your tape information

"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it." - creators of the KLINGON keyboard holder

@-INFERNUS-

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that from Back to the Future 😁

@marccaselle8108

Жыл бұрын

@@-INFERNUS- yes it is 🙂

@ffwast

Жыл бұрын

@@-INFERNUS- No,Klingons are from Star Trek 😉

@-INFERNUS-

Жыл бұрын

@@ffwast 😁

@aylen7062

Жыл бұрын

@@ffwast Klingons are from the β quadrant.

"You Klingon ------ you killed my keyboard!"

So, I think the idea is that there was a time (back in the day) when your computer was just used for certain things in your workday. And, desks were not sized (deep enough) to have a full sized IBM (with the monitor on top) and the keyboard in front, to allow you to do your "paper-work" in front of your computer. The keyboard was always in the way. And, you needed a place to have your printed "report" or whatever right in front of you so you could read through it, mark it up, etc, etc. So, it was a work-space saving device. The keyboard would only be up there when you weren't using your computer. Which, believe it or not, back in the early days of the office PC, would be 50% to 75% of your day. You only used your work PC to "compute" (not to communicate, etc.).

@MrJakeTucker

Жыл бұрын

Copying what I wrote in another post - The packaging has a picture of a woman using the keyboard, around 1 minute in.

@exxmodel

Жыл бұрын

If we were still using CRTs today this would be great for having a meal at your pc while watching youtube

@qurn

Жыл бұрын

@Jake Tucker yeah, she has a peice of paper in front of her at the time too. Like if you were working some reports and you had a spreadsheet open, you could jot some relevant notes down on your spreadsheet as you work.

@Blackadder75

Жыл бұрын

I used to eat meals in front of my PC, and the keyboard was always in the way of my plate, so it would be useful to park it in these holders. But even then it's not much better than just shoving the keyboard to the side

@RyanStewartUSA

Жыл бұрын

@@MrJakeTucker And its still stupid. Hanging the keyboard below, maybe. But above? You're literally putting your arms and hands in the way of seeing what you are doing. There is a reason this didnt catch on and keyboard trays did.

This could have been useful for a point of sale terminal for someone who was standing most of the day.

@theothertonydutch

Жыл бұрын

Only if you are a ghost and can look through your appendages, though that would defeat the purpose since being a ghost makes you incorporeal and that means you wouldn't be able to interact with a keyboard anyway.

@herbiehusker1889

Жыл бұрын

I think it was for industrial computers that control cnc machines and other machine tools in factories. I saw similar set ups in factories before.

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

oooo yahh

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

I swear they had this at the Homedepot paint terminal back in the day!...

The opening line made me google "Klingon for greetings" and sure enough, I was not disappointed. 😀

@thewiirocks

Жыл бұрын

I recognized the greeting immediately. Said in such a cheerful voice! Literally translates to, “What do you want?!?” 😂

@marcberm

Жыл бұрын

@@thewiirocks Google just gives the rough approximation but of course THAT would be the actual translation.

LGR is a KZread OG. It's exactly what KZread was originally made for

@Isaacfess

Жыл бұрын

And we love him for it.

@aintnomeaning

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was made for cat videos!

@39zack

Жыл бұрын

@@aintnomeaningo, oy was made for "day at the zoo" videos 😂

@TheBr00talhamster

11 ай бұрын

He and Ashens embody this in my mind. Pure video making with you as the subject or your interests.

The Honorable way to use a keyboard. Any true Klingon scientist on Qo'noS uses this for their keyboard.

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

wait is that that spaceship alien from Spacetrack..

There was a Next Generation episode where Worf kept traveling through different realities and in one of them he didn’t understand how to use his station on the bridge. Maybe he’s used to using a keyboard sitting on one of these things and they didn’t have one.

This could also be useful for a PC used to control something like a C&C machine or large printer; you need it there to configure and start the machine but not much else, so you'd use this to help it have a smaller footprint.

@SomeMorganSomewhere

Жыл бұрын

Yup, they also saw a lot of use in machine rooms "back in the day" as there was no desk to put the keyboard on.

Notification cut off the"holder" bit and I really thought LGR was reviewing some old Klingon keyboard

this seems more like a storage solution than a working solution despite what the packaging would show... also amazed the adhesive was good!

@JMurdochNZ

Жыл бұрын

I thought so too. Keep the keyboard off the desk until needed, allowing the desk to be used for other things and more easily cleaned.

Glory to you and your mounted keyboard! QUAPLA!

Oh damn, I'm totally making one. At work I literally hang my keyboard off my monitor by the wire when I need extra desk space for paper and books and whatnot. This makes so much more sense

Finally! This clears up more room on my desk for my bat’leth!

Until I saw the back picture I thought it was only to hold the monitor while you used the desk space for something else. Using the keyboard like this is really awkward.I see it on a terminal and pulling down the keyboard to put on your lap when needed and then returned. Using the keyboard while it is in the holder is a little insane.

@bobbyboner6079

Жыл бұрын

That could be it's actual intended use as designed. Using it while on the monitor still could be the result of the marketing team.

@presstmoded

Жыл бұрын

I was about to write the same

If had known those things existed, I definitely would have bought them. They'd free up space on my desk for me to do other things. A related product, I had, was a stick-on copy holder. That was pretty handy for when I was typing up parts from printed documents.

Haha. Hello in Klingon. To introduce the Klingon. Marvelous mate

That holder sure does hold a thing!

@HunterTinsley

Жыл бұрын

It holds like nobody's business!

If I ever come across a Duke Nukem handpuppet, it's yours.

That tartan pattern on the backing lets us know that it was Scotch brand adhesive, before they were bought out by 3M. The Scotch brand still exists but I think it's 3M co-branded now.

@john_barnett

Жыл бұрын

Huh? Scotch brand has always been a 3M product.

To quote one of the riffs from the MST3K episode "Space Mutiny": Wall mounted keyboards, it must be the future! I would suppose that it's mainly just to get the keyboard out of the way so you can reclaim at times desk space to pay bills or paint miniatures.

@Kara_Kay_Eschel

Жыл бұрын

We put our faith in blast hardcheese!

now that monitor needs one of those screen filters, side mounted speakers, some kind of pen or document holder, and one of those fluffy "computer virus" stickies to reach peak early 90s

Only a dishonourable petaQ would doubt the might of the glorious Klingon keyboard holder!

I don't care if it's stupid! I like that it gives the monitor ears and now it looks like a japanese anime robot. I do work a lot on my desk and the keyboard is always in the way, so for a quick out of the way solush it's actually kinda useful.

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

right especially with the old giant monitors

@Freak80MC

Жыл бұрын

Personally I don't get how anyone can use a computer without a dedicated keyboard tray underneath the desk, as I always use my desk surface for other things while also using the keyboard and mouse.

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

@@Freak80MC omg {there's a joke in tha comment} lolz

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

then yor @ name omg lolz

I could see this potentially for use in a school where you might want to put the keyboard up out of the way to clear desk space when the computer was not in use (you see, back in the 80s and 90s students did not tend to do all their classwork and research on a computer, we also used books, paper and pens/pencils).

I can see this being good for a desk you were standing at

I like the idea, it's simple and it works, although I would not want to use it with the keyboard up there, but for getting your keyboard out of the way for documents and such, it's neat! I would just sell a sort of box (flat tiles you can put together yourself, so it's compact when not in use) with room inside for accessoires and a slanted front for the keyboard to put up against, but it would also elevate your monitor, so no clue if it would actually be better ^^'

@nickwallette6201

Жыл бұрын

If you watch The Computer Chronicles, there were all kinds of ergonomic sins in the mid-late 80s. I cringe every time I see someone typing away at their keyboard with the monitor 45° to the left of them... makes my neck hurt just to watch.

Not to far away from where I live. Nice to see a Canadian product back in the day on the channel. Thanks for sharing

This looks like it would have been useful if I needed to get the keyboard out of the way temporarily and didn't have a keyboard tray.

"Get the keyboard off the desk... Or it gets the hose again." - LOL, what a way to start the episode :D

This would have been good if a joystick was used a lot. The keyboard above while playing would free up a lot of desk space.

@JohnSmith-xq1pz

Жыл бұрын

Would've try with with X-wing back in the day

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

yep they saw the future of keybordless computing

@Jon-yh3gb

Жыл бұрын

Its nice to get the keyboard out of the way when setting up a steering wheel, but a monitor shelf wide enough for a keyboard to slide under also makes sure the wheel doesn't block the bottom of the screen.

I'm surprised no one else has an antique Klingon computer... I do... its a 1994 Com' paQ... lol 😆

There's LGR on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow.

@JohnSmith-xq1pz

Жыл бұрын

Slow mo Photon torpedo... away!

dang man, So many uses for klingon keyboard holder. like you said xmasfestive antlers for your computer, or plastic dagger fight in front of computer, shotgun holder plus many more uses! 🤣

Damn, that's some pretty strong old adhesive! Honestly impressive.

"Klingons do not keep their keyboards in front of their monitors" -Worf (probably)

I was hoping to hear you say "Qapla'" and my dream has come true.

A Warriors keyboard holder

We need to see this puppeteer skill in action asap

Dude! You were a puppeteer! You need to share some stories from that! I spent about 7 years in competitive puppetry!

Compared to those awful little pull out shelves they expected you to use for your keyboard on 80's/90's desks, which caused awful RSI and wrist problems due to lack of support, this actually seems like a pretty sane way to clear desk space when needed.

Your desklamp makes me homesick and nostalgic but I don't know why.

I *hope* most people that had these treated it more like a keyboard garage that allowed the keyboard to be used occasionally while they used the desk space for a different primary task, but yeah. Glad under-desk keyboard trays won out for this scenario; just watching this video makes me feel phantom RSI :P

If I didn’t Dell up my panel of a modern monitor with USB port hubs, I would give this a try.

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

usb lolzzz

Eldritch Horrors with arms coming out of their heads really needed this, thanks guys.

Greetings from Belleville, Ontario! Wasn't really expecting a shout-out from LGR today! DID YOU KNOW your favourite Rampage and Duck Hunt shadow boxes were also made in Belleville Ontario? By ME?

Oh my goodness, I had no idea this existed. Though oddly enough I had a vivid dream a few years back. Where I was still working at the small computer repair shop and in the dream all of the keyboards were mounted over the monitor like this for each of the diagnostics stations. It became the reason I knew I was in a dream and it became a lucid dream where I could explore and control the dream space all inception like.

omg every computer in my junior school computer lab had these when i was 5 and the teachers would make us put the keyboards up when they wanted us to listen to them or if they wanted us to write things on paper

The sheer amount of weird, cheap, beige plastic junk that was produced to serve the PC market from the 80s through the 90s must be huge. Nearly all of it would be forgotten if it wasn't for LGR!

If you ever set up a museum, you should have an old early 90's PC setup with all the whacky monitor, keyboard, and mouse gadgets in one crazy setup surrounded by tons of cheesy desk tchotchkes. In a cubicle full of motivational posters. And cat posters. Like the secretary from hell. Corny coffee mug too. Like someone bought out the entire accessory aisle at Comp USA. Add in a few "dummies" books for basic computer tasks, and a fancy framed certificate for something very un-difficult.

@MLX1401

Жыл бұрын

As a proud owner of a framed "Microcomputer User Licence" certificate from the 90's, I fully support this idea 😎👍

the keyboard holder that will not dishonor your house....

"Theeeeere's Klingons on the monitor, monitor monitor, there's klingons on the monitor, monitor Jim!!!" :P

Dishonorable P'takh! A true warrior uses a Dvorak keyboard!

"Impractically practical" You just described Canada lol

The first environment I see this being used is for workbenches that worked on ESD product repair/assembly, where they required the keyboard to be away from any static mats or the product itself, yet were too cheap to purchase benches with enough space, or with a keyboard tray underneath. My current bench requires the display to be sat towards the back of the bench, and has a tray retrofitted underneath.

I a person who is out of the era of old stuff older than around x58/x79 era (2009-2011) love the bumpy tan grey plastic of this

I get the feeling, that if you left it like that overnight you would be woken up by your model m smashing on the ground

I remember these things, I think I had it back in the day but I never knew that its intended use was for space saving whilst in actual operation. I could see it maybe being useful at a terminal where minimal keyboard input would be required but certainly not much beyond that!

I feel like this could be useful for students studying. Like you could use your note book in front of the monitor and just use the keyboard for quick google searches and stuff. Also could be nice with drawing tables.

@AMPProf

Жыл бұрын

nawwww it would have gum on it in 1sec lolz

@drupiROM

Жыл бұрын

Not much internet access back then and sites like Altavista were not modern Google :) But it would been useful for something like that on a small desk.

@jamesmillerjo

Жыл бұрын

@@drupiROM Astalavista!

@kaitlyn__L

Жыл бұрын

@@drupiROM gawd, I still remember how revolutionary Google was. A search engine which actually worked! And displaced the need for Yahoo! portals. Though I still kept bookmarks to a bunch of portal sites until 2001.

So I have to assume that this was on the Klingon ship when Kirk when back in time and it got left behind in the past.

LGR displaying those typing skills! Nice!!

@marccaselle8108

Жыл бұрын

Mavis beacon and Mario have nothing on Clint's typing skills.

8:02 The patten on the backing paper is reminiscent of the tartan branding for "Scotch Tape" (3M) so one would assume it is just that.

Looks like a solution in search of a problem.

Quinte Computer Accessories was a division of Quinte Computer Services at 141 William Street. They are still there. The Owner's son told me the story about how Paramount pictures caught wind of the Trademark infringement and threatened to sue them out of existence. They complied and changed the name to Clingon but it eventually faded. They had boxes of Klingons in the Basement and every terminal in the computer room was outfitted with them too. I used to work there as a programmer 100 years ago and still live in Belleville.

You have so much more in common with Techmoan than we ever knew. How fascinating! Puppetry. Also, not the worst way to store a keyboard, I suppose.

Only a pa'tahk would be caught without their keyboard holder

I LIKE IT!! Now I can clean my desk every so often!

I like the photo on the box. Rather than a stand to hold up the sheet of paper above the monitor while she types comfortably, instead mount the keyboard so your arm is constantly blocking the screen as you type.

This thing would have been perfect check print jobs on a printer/plotter in a CAD Office back in the days (no internet). We had a monitor sitting on our plotter until 2018 and had to use some keyboard in midair to unlock it (password) and open exactly 1 program. Had to use an external monitor because the plotter was in a basement with no access to another monitor or laptop. As Clint mentioned, something like this would've been practical at a terminal where you only need to enter like 12 digits and enter or esc every now and then and have no space around your screen. Niche products can be handy!

Need speaker hangers, a mouse hanger, a mirror, microphone, webcam, and a decorative screen surround to completely outfit the monitor.

Lack of Klingon knowledge here threatens Clint’s geek cred… joking of course

This looks like great excercise

This seems like a more modern useful item. Set up your Netflix on your computer, put your keyboard up, eat your food. I’d sure buy one!

This has the same problem touchscreens for desktops and VR controllers have: you can only keep your arms outstretched for so long before they get tired. They're literally building exoskeletons for people who have jobs that require it.

I bought a Curtis brand keyboard 'tray' off eBay a while back that these remind me of. It's two individual plastic pieces that either mount under your desk or sit under your monitor (though I can't imagine they'd be very stable under a monitor) and have slide-out bits that cradle your keyboard like a pair of arms. I am actually still using them despite the alarming amount of flex every time I strike a key.

I eat at my computer, this would be the ideal solution for me, I always awkwardly move the keyboard off to the side. Its a brilliant idea!

I would have loved one of those 20yrs ago. I could get some music playing / downloading on limewire. Then set the keyboard up and do my homework.

Aw man as soon as I saw those strips I knew they would be rock solid. 3M is the king of adhesives!

Oh man when I saw that old school 3M foam tape, I knew that sucker was not coming off

it is now my headcanon that this is how early Klingon terminals looked.

Honestly? I like it! This is the 1980s so a lot of desk work was still paper based. To quickly and easily get the keyboard off the desk but in a position to still occasionally hit a key, like to scroll through a spreadsheet, it makes complete sense if you don't have a keyboard tray. It's looks utterly stupid, however.

This is, of course, hilarious and awesome, but that's not why I'm commenting. You've lived in the Caribbean, worked as a picture framer, worked in retail, and now we learn you were a puppeteer. Man, what HAVEN'T you done? Next we're going to find out you tamed lions with just your voice alone, and honestly that wouldn't even surprise me.

Worf: "... impressive"

Even for a terminal/industrial solution it seems very counterintuitive to have an input device above the screen. I think most people solved this problem with the keyboard tray/monitor stand combos that existed back then. Definitely seems like a solution that's ideal for a very small amount of people.

@gummboote

Жыл бұрын

There's a reason why writing machines have always placed the paper or screen higher than the keys. This would only be useful to someone with eyes in their abdomen.

Yes, it really is a sight to behold!

when the monitor took up half your desk, space was of the essence

I love semi-usefull pieces of plastic. Such fun

The occasional klingon makes me happy

I suppose it’s like a Bat’leth stand? Is that why it’s called the Klingon?

Truly, the keyboard mount of a warrior!

I prefer the Romulan keyboard holder. It fits so well in your monitor that you can't see it.