Time travel does exist. I have been traveling forward in time for quite some time, with great ease. Going the other way is rather challenging, though.

@heromarks8142

2 жыл бұрын

Is there a limit how far you can travel forward?

@heromarks8142

2 жыл бұрын

Also what makes going backwards more challenging?

@MarcillaSmith

2 жыл бұрын

I was able to travel backwards in time once, but only ever so briefly, and I would also not recommend doing that many drugs at once

@davenik1999

2 жыл бұрын

@@heromarks8142 , yes, time travel is currently limited to a forward speed of one second per second.

@cryptoking7093

2 жыл бұрын

Same here! I'm now at the end of 2021 and just about a year ago I only at the end of 2020...

Dunno about time travel but that was the shortest 43 minutes I've had for ages.

@JamesChessman

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but your post kind of implies a vague reference to time flying during s*x, and that you have not done that in ages, well sorry to hear it lol

@craigix

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I thought it was like 20mins. That is some serious... time travel.

@WR3ND

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I didn't notice the time passing either. Seemed more like 20 minutes to me as well.

@mrkitty777

2 жыл бұрын

I watched this video tomorrow already 🤔

@greenaum

2 жыл бұрын

Took bloody ages for me, I was waiting for someting not obviously bullshit to happen. I remain disappointed.

The biggest flaw with this story is that all the apparent "professionals" involved mysteriously disappeared and somehow couldn't be found. Which ultimately makes the story entirely contigent upon the honesty of the tellers.

@indridcold8433

Жыл бұрын

Truthfully, early IT professionals made hoaxes like this all the time. When I worked at IBM, I would sometimes put some sort of cryptic message in a new computer I just built, to show up at a certain time. I would then seal the computer in a new box, and send it on its way. Building computers, troubleshooting them, repairing them, is boring, slow, and monotonous. A little gag sent out, along the way, was a welcome change form the boredom. There is likely an IBM Pentium, somewhere, that still knows my birthday.

@MadScientist267

Жыл бұрын

@@indridcold8433 Yep I'm blown away by the gullibility of people. It's really bad today but back then it would appear as well. A little common sense explains this one away pretty readily.

@anontwentytwo1380

Жыл бұрын

@@indridcold8433 that's horrible. Wish I was your boss during that time. I'd fire you then kick your ass in the parking lot

@indridcold8433

Жыл бұрын

@@anontwentytwo1380 Who do you think started the gags? The boss started it because we were rather bored and he wanted to have some fun with us. It caused no harm and he knew we had a little fun doing it. Just deleting a line would get rid of the gag. He did not allow for vulgar gags, nor violent gags. If we were busy, nobody was allowed to play. It was a good time. Back then, it paid really good as well. It was the time when IT work paid better than what a fast food assistant manager makes.

@geigertec5921

Жыл бұрын

The fact that the entire story is objectively a science fiction tale should be a clue to the fact that it is clearly a science fiction tale.

as much as I wanted to believe.. it sounds like a hoax to me..

As soon as I saw the first message I was reminded of 'The Ghost of Thomas Kempe', which is a book that was very popular in Britain in the early 1980s, and was indeed used for study in English classes at that time. The plot was a boy in modern times, living in a 400 year old house, receiving letters from someone that had lived there in the 1600s. Was surprised the video did not make that connection, but maybe the book is forgotten now.

@markswang8987

Жыл бұрын

heard about a movie with similar idea but I forgot the name of it

@mikeyle119

Жыл бұрын

@@markswang8987 lake house with keanu reeves

@paxhumana2015

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeyle119 , Somewhere in Time is kind of like that, except that it does not have letters, and that it also involves romance. I think that Kate and Leopold is also something similar to that as well.

@IMWeira

Жыл бұрын

@@markswang8987 The Ghost and Mrs Muir? Of course, he was a little more substantial.

@markswang8987

Жыл бұрын

@@IMWeira no the one with a cabinet

Perhaps some ghosts are angry because there only were zx spectrums available to type their cryptic messages, and they couldn't deal with the keyboard.

@Nostalgianerd

2 жыл бұрын

Thousands of ghosts have been trying to communicate through Spectrums, but failed.

@Vokabre

2 жыл бұрын

ZX80 could've caused poltergeist activity.

@catriona_drummond

2 жыл бұрын

...the ZX Spectre...

@HAVOCJKD

2 жыл бұрын

the oft mentioned "dead flesh" keyboard doth not suit the actual dead methinks.....

@Ndlanding

2 жыл бұрын

Who said ghosts used the keyboard? : ¬ ]

I *love* that the best that time travellers from 2109 could muster for communication was a BBC Micro

The first two messages from “Lukas” address Ken, Deb, and Nic by name and go on to reference actual things in the house basically only a king could have and mentions that they shouldn’t have stolen his house. This was before they wrote any messages of their own. But in a later message “Lukas (aka Thomas) tells them that someone had come out of his fireplace and gave him a box of lights that he spoke into. There’s no explanation of how or why he spoke those first messages addressing them by name and asserting they lived in his house - they hadn’t even sent him a message yet at that point. This definitely seems like someone started off, playing a joke that they were being contacted by a ghost in their house and then later on that person decided to spin the story a little bit into a communication between times scenario. Also the first message with the poem seems very different in tone and language from the second one, with that “pussy cat pussy cat” line.

@matthewrussell8590

5 ай бұрын

Bang on, most certainly the tale developed

@menacetohighsociety

4 ай бұрын

Tom Jones fan.

@mcfcguvnors

Ай бұрын

It was 2109 & alexa but she identifies as a bloke from hundreds of years ago kinda ironic that we talk to computers now in 2024

You can’t really fault a time traveler for appearing at the exact right time.

@tolentarpay5464

2 жыл бұрын

It'd be strange if they didn't - PROOF POSITIVE!

@jonahlefholtz8219

2 жыл бұрын

Woof hiss?

@blacksunshine7485

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@Skauber

2 жыл бұрын

A wizard is never late. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

@brandonlewis2599

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skauber Unless you're a wizard in training. Then all bets are off :P

I had a BBC Model B in the mid 1980s, and I too used to receive mysterious messages, especially after midnight, when I was in a state of semi-wakefulness. The messages tended to be somewhat shorter than the ones in the video, since they always came in the form of bizarre, seemingly meaningless phrases that were sometimes repeated two or three times, as if the sender, in some unfathomable way, knew that I hadn't quite understood them. The phrases certainly had some kind of poetic power, but what, if anything, they meant is anyone's guess. They included "SYNTAX ERROR", "TOO MANY GOSUBS", and "DIVISION BY ZERO", the latter perhaps alluding to the infinite nature of reality...

@reso_ben

2 жыл бұрын

@Zligor St ???? This was the deepest talk ever and you write 😃😃😃

@bigsteve6729

2 жыл бұрын

😂 such a nerdy programmer joke that I laughed 😎👉👉

@SparkySubie

2 жыл бұрын

Mine once said "I want to see bobs and vagene" 🤔

@CuriouslyCitrusy

2 жыл бұрын

😀😀 I miss randomly smiling at cool nerd humor with wit and pretty good writing (for a comment on a video) - thanks 🙏🏻

@johnmchugh8049

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant 😂😂😂

Even though it was 40 years ago, this would have called for a video camera to monitor the computer to have known what really happened. If they wanted to force proof, they should describe a particular brick to remove (which can be checked that it has been unaltered for centuries) and place something specific from that time period, but very rare today. If this 15th century guy were real, he could easily place that object. Indeed, it should be there almost as soon as they leave him the message. So maybe it would not have been so difficult to establish better evidence.

@lopezlopez7132

Жыл бұрын

Yes, great idea! Here's another one, just not pay any attention to this silly story.

@Bobba_raekus

Жыл бұрын

But things in our time cannot simply appear out of nowhere or in any way be retroactively influenced by a past that has already passed. Tomas would have had to leave whatever the thing was to be before a message asking him to do so existed, as the past is unchangeable and the present being a result of that.

@lopezlopez7132

Жыл бұрын

@@Bobba_raekus Oh, well...

@ELREASON44

Жыл бұрын

@@Bobba_raekus I think it is more like Schrodinger's cat. Until you look, the cat is both alive and dead in a sense. As long as the brick was never tampered with prior to the 'checking it', that thing was both there and not there-only revealed when checked. Basically, it is indeed a change to the timeline. There are also infinite possible paradox's dealing w/ time in this way. What would be far more questionable is not finding something from the past hidden somewhere, but to have some piece of advanced tech (the voice compatible computer that supposedly connected with the bbc computer) found from an intact secure place untouched since the 15th (or whatever) century Hardens century came from. Had such a device existed in Harden's time, he could have hidden that device somewhere to be found in our present. That, or the book (depending on what is in it), would be real evidence of time travel. I guess we want to find Hardens book that the future claims was written-lol. Just need to work out General Relativity and Quantum Mechanic issues. Simple (the last word is a joke).

@rmvoris

Жыл бұрын

@@Bobba_raekus I think it depends on whether you believe time is only linear in one direction. If you believe in interdimensional travel, each event altered in the past would bring the dimension of the future farther from the timeline the traveler came from. Both timelines could still exist simultaneously, but any timeline entered by the traveler would exist separate from the original timeline the traveler left. The traveler's timeline is linear in that sense, but the timelines of the dimensions are not necessarily linear to him.

Have to give these people credit. The time, and more importantly the effort and thought they put into planning and carrying out this hoax is outstanding.

@urmother2.057

Жыл бұрын

Okay guy sure

@idekav.

Жыл бұрын

The time you give to try and believe the bullshit you just wrote is the only outstanding thing in this comment section

@clintward3532

Жыл бұрын

@@idekav. the time you just put in to write the crap you just wrote just goes to show. Weak minded and weak willed people will believe anything.

@jessetumpak5867

Жыл бұрын

You're no doubt a liberal sheep. Liberals are such morons.

@nescionetizen295

Жыл бұрын

It is not a hoax. It is a book called the vertical plane and the writer made very clear it was fiction.

The real mind-bending aspect of this story is the never-ending battery on the computer sent back to the 16th century.

@sw0mpy

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Why not ask the simple questions like how the machine was powered. Also ask the person from the "future" simple fact questions like a list of USA presidents or smth like that.

@AndrewJonesMcGuire

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, it's from 2109. It's probably got a nuclear power source (or something even better, it is 2109 after all) in it or something.

@dont-touch-mepg1392

2 жыл бұрын

Yea. Like a huge ass solar panel....

@nobodyknowsforsure

2 жыл бұрын

@@sw0mpy also ask them to describe it, their description would be totally different from the average person.

@raypurchase801

2 жыл бұрын

The battery was supplied by Stewie Griffin. Brian wrote the text. One part of the message tells people to buy a copy of "Faster than the Speed of Love".

Around the time Windows 8 was released I was sent on a home call to repair this old man's IBM XT (my manager thought he said XP), when I got there his table was covered in hand drawn astrological charts, he took me to another room with an identical XT covered in dust, and explained that he was using the broken computer to communicate to his dead wife who was sending him messages from the second computer. Told him I could maybe get the data off the broken computer so he could archive it, but I couldn't restablish then connection to his wife... Guy complained to my manager, said I wasn't trained properly, and I got a write up for the bad customer survey.

@RisingRevengeance

2 жыл бұрын

You weren't trained in ibm ghost connections? smh next you're gonna tell me you couldn't even send messages back in time

@eval_is_evil

2 жыл бұрын

What kind of retard was your manager? Was he stupid or just incompetent? If a procedure creates this kind of nonsense you change the procedure or you make exceptions based on common sense. It's not like you need an OK from HR for this shite (it is not an elaborate freaking workflow). Besides the fact that your manager should take the blame for not training you in tracking ghosts. Prick.

@drinksanddice9528

2 жыл бұрын

@@eval_is_evil he was just a corporate shill. He sent one of my coworkers out to the house who apparently 'fixed' the issue, but that guy wasn't the most ethical tech so who knows what he ultimately did to came the customer down.

@drinksanddice9528

2 жыл бұрын

@@RisingRevengeance I only really knew anything about the computer because my dad had one when I was a kid, and I remember playing some all dogs go to heaven painting game on it.

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like IBM would be the kind of company that still repairs XTs that are in use for vital operations. Their afterlife division was always lacking tho

As someone who was very active on modem/BBS systems from 1983-1987(my father was on them from '80 to roughly '84), this is obviously an interesting/semi-fascinating story. I don't know the particulars of the BBC Micro but if it had modem connectivity at all(even though 32K base RAM would be rather limiting in terms of active data send/receive even if it did, would be a very key aspect to this story. Webster can claim now and then that he was using a "closed system". But if he had access to a school budget and was tech-savvy at all, it would not be a stretch that he did indeed have the Micro "networked" via modem, even if he claims now that he didn't. In any event, if Webster was active on UK BBS systems of antiquity(even accessing extra-regional ones), the Occam's Razor of natural skepticism would suggest that he was just being randomly pranked by some BBS tomfoolery miscreants(which there certainly were no shortage of in the 80's). If Webster is claiming that the Doddleston messages just showed up on his saved floppy disk indices with no initiation by him or outside network connectivity, that would be the least believable part of the claimed story(unless his musician friend pranking him as referenced in the vid is to blame). Many computers in that day had an autosave function for disk/tape drive that would activate for a given amount of time when the user was away upon detection of a ping/data input or change in the system that came in via the modem. The film "Brainstorm" roughly touches and broached this "high-tech" ability and feature, in 1981. This would of course be another plausible explanation as to how the messages ended up on his disk index if Webster claims neither he nor anyone else could access his disk drive, but did have the BBC Micro often running with the modem/BBS access on when Webster was away from the machine. Sorry about the long rant but, just looking at all of the available and plausible explanations and possibilities of such, in the Doddleston message legend. One thing's certain however: I certainly will try to obtain a copy of "The Vertical Plane". If for no other reason than just to be able to research the claimed source of the event phenomenon itself, and because it's nice to have such an off the wall and intriguing(if not haphazardly layman-written) account in my collection.

@robertwilson3866

Жыл бұрын

I was around back then. I can tell you people believed anything back then. There were the Dogon alien stories we all believed because there was no way to check the actual facts. People just believed stuff.

@jitkundough

Жыл бұрын

Headquarters BBS, the one with DOS Doors, games and FidoNet for messaging would update to hubs. Did that on a TRS-80 model 100!

You cant travel back into something that no longer exist. You can only travel to a alternate timeline where the event is currently happening.

Ahh, early Text Adventures were pretty elaborate I see.

@BassandoForte

2 жыл бұрын

He should be buying a potion from Gandalf - that's where he's been going wrong... 😝

@kevinoverbeck4250

2 жыл бұрын

An polite!

@tufferstv

2 жыл бұрын

Go north. »YOU HAVE ENTERED THE VILLAGE OF DODLESTONE go north. »YOU HAVE ENTERED AN OLD FARM HOUSE go north YOU HAVE BEEN TRANSPORTED TO THE YEAR 2109

@mal2ksc

2 жыл бұрын

At least nobody got eaten by a grue. OR DID THEY? (A couple people just sort of dropped off the map in the course of this story.)

@thephantomraspberryblower2675

2 жыл бұрын

Gork

The "Dost thou hath horse?" question immediately gives it away for me. That is exactly the type of question someone would think a time traveler would ask but in reality it would be exceptional for someone from 1600 to question if horses were still around as their first question about the future.

@MMasterDE

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same. :)

@RomeoWhiskey692

2 жыл бұрын

Well , in fairness , he didn’t ask if horses were still around , just if they had one . Not everyone was rich enough to afford their own back in his time . Like asking someone today if they have a car . I’m always surprised at the number of people who don’t drive or own a vehicle . But according to the story , the mysterious “future” entities diddled with his messages to “ make them easier to understand “ so none of his wording can be trusted anyway .

@stephenjamison7195

2 жыл бұрын

Then there is the 3rd party from the future of this storyline that may have hinted at horses not being the mainstay of transportation.

@darktimesatrockymountainhi4046

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds to me like a cheap-ass anachronism based upon "Where's the beef?!"...

@secullenable

2 жыл бұрын

yeah he might wonder if horses were still in use but it's likely not the first question he would ask

Ken & Debbie: How are you powering the device in 1530? Lucas: Ermmm water wheel?

@juu2356

2 ай бұрын

exactly this.

Back in the 90's The wife and I moved her dad in with us. He insisted that our house was haunted. Every time he walked past me while I was in my home office room I could hear thunderous flatulence. But he blamed it on a loose floor board and suggested that the associated foul stench was decomposing bodies hidden underneath. He insisted I have some building contractor and telekinesis crew come investigate and look into this. I insisted that decomposing corpses don't give off an odor of burnt hair and fancy feast filet & pate' with a hint of decomposing sauerbraten. He would stand there wiping his glasses lenses with a tissue - the "floor board would creak" so loudly that the china would rattle - and he would point down at that floorboard. He had my daughter believing him. My wife sure helped none. She would walk around that spot. I put a plug-in air freshener near there. It died. The photo of my wife's grandmother was altered: She now has her collar held over her nose. Our cat, Higgins hissed at the emanations. Things started to get really out of hand. His gastrointestinal ailment had become so bad that you could SEE the spirits. Had you HEARING things man. My daughter brought her first boyfriend over and grampa demonstrated for them. Or, rather: he introduced the young man to the evil apparitions. He was so frightened that he never returned.

@kendoty2463

Жыл бұрын

Such can knocke thy buzzards from ye yon crapwagonne. . . 😂🤣💥oops keep ye fyre avast. . . 😯

@JaneAtwellRobinson1825NY

Жыл бұрын

OH MY GOODNESS! I'm dyyyyyinggg here reading your comment... I would love to see the psychic team "investigating" these smells in real time lolz

@skeggjoldgunnr3167

Жыл бұрын

@@JaneAtwellRobinson1825NY ! Ha!

@kendoty2463

Жыл бұрын

@@JaneAtwellRobinson1825NY Ken Doty 8 days ago Such can knocke thy buzzards from ye yon crapwagonne. . . 😂🤣buffering💥oops keep ye fyre avast. . . 😯

@kendoty2463

Жыл бұрын

Ken Doty 8 days ago Such can knocke thy buzzards from ye yon crapwagonne. . . 😂🤣buffering💥oops keep ye fyre avast. . . 😯

The "REATE" file suggests to me whoever did this didn't know how to really use the computer. They probably tried to type "CREATE" at the main menu but typing the "C" then prompted for the filename, which they didn't see... presumably they were not familiar with typing on a keyboard and were hunting and pecking instead of looking at the screen. (To be clear I don't believe time travel was involved in any way with this.)

@halfbakedproductions7887

2 жыл бұрын

The menu appears to have poor instructions and no highlighting of the first letter, which means people would be expecting to type CREATE rather than just press C. It's an easy mistake to make especially in those days and shows why good UI/UX is so important.

@marcg1314

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree and and your reply has solved this mystery for me. If lukas' method of creating the messages was speech based then it proves to me that the messages were typed by a hoaxer with access to the house and the computer but was unfamiliar (at that point) of operating the software.

@DigbysSignature

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcg1314 My thing is if we were to communicate with someone from the future and not have used I yet having them say it would then in turn cause you to. Hell youd probably sit there and jump around saying I all day. Me is I! if you will. I dont believe it but i do believe it. When they eliminate her and the husband it still communicates. Whats to say they figured out step by step how and what to say to get to wording it the way they do. Then the guy who gets the messages handed to him in an envelope dissapears? Would there have not been a way to go back and see what was printed like some cache of sorts? Theres too much that cant be debunked for it to be thrown out. If they didnt want anything leaking but had an objective theyd of kept at it til they got "the one" way thats right. If time is a flow then wed never be the wiser. Confusion is, to me, the best probable way to prevent changing events. If youre confused you usually ignore it and move on or dismiss it.

@TheWazil

2 жыл бұрын

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood ,but against powers and principalities against spiritual wickedness in high places.

@neonwired4978

2 жыл бұрын

farmers from the 16th century were notoriously bad at computing....and reading and writing.

This reminds me of a story I thought I'd made up - I remember playing the Quake 3 demo back in the day, alone, and I have a memory of one of the bots asking me what my favourite thing was. I replied, food. The bot asked me if they'd get a frag for starving me. For years and years, I remembered this, and yet doubted it; as the years went by, I doubted it more and more, for as I learned more about how computer games function, and got into game development myself, I found it to be implausible that such an elaborate text parser existed for the bots in a predominantly multiplayer shooter from the end of the 90s (especially given that so few games bother to even include bots these days). Turns out I was wrong. The game DOES feature a parser. I did talk to the bot. Those crazy boys at id actually put a text parser into the game... for no apparent reason, beyond the fact that they could. And you can indeed talk to the bots in a rudimentary manner (though I don't know the full limitations of it) - in a recent test, having acquired the full game on GOG, I said "Hug me" to a bot. The bot replied with something along the lines of, "Let's get married and have lots of children". Given that I didn't have internet access back in the 90s, I can only speculate as to what weird stories I would have been telling my friends about my solitary experiences with such an unexpected feature. But it rather demonstrates that technology was not so limiting in the past when it came to subtler, more ingenious ideas. And frankly, if this story were about a program from the 90s communicating with someone? I would now immediately proclaim - text parser, and prank.

@Etcher

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment was as interesting as the video! Thanks!

@kevinbbadd

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like you were playing against someone in the future

@JavierChiappa

2 жыл бұрын

There was this crazy story about bots left on in a permanent game of quake, and they supposedly learned not to attack each other.

@worldcomicsreview354

2 жыл бұрын

@@JavierChiappa I remember that, the guy left a server running for years with the bots fighting each other. He joined it again and they weren't doing anything, as soon as he fired a gun they all killed him, then went back to doing nothing. Also each one had an AI file of 2gb (in a game from an era where a 10gb hard drive was "mammoth"). Provably made up, mind you.

@trumplovesyou4133

2 жыл бұрын

I remember playing Super Mario 64 and I left the game idling for several minutes. Me and my sister remember Mario snoring and talking about Lasagna(in his sleep). I haven't Googled this yet but I wonder if that actually happened.

By far the best account of this mystery. So well and fluently conveyed.

I'm not a nerd but managed to be a computer programmer anyway and remember the 80's in my field. This story is kind of reflective of what was going on in the early days of everyone being able to buy and use their own computer and being able to connect to other computers. Back in the 80's, I remember a couple of kids at my son's high school who were able to break into bank computers with their home computers and look at the accounts of other kids' parents. I worked with a guy who served a jail term for writing a program, in the 80's, that skimmed pennies off each of thousands of bank accounts. Being a programmer, I also knew many programmers who were crossovers into the science fiction fan world. Most had probably read every science fiction book ever written, the sum total of which explored time travel to the nth degree. I myself had a hobby of studying English handwriting and language from the Middle Ages. I remember going to a party around 1980 where the host had a computer he programmed to answer questions you typed in. This was easy to do, a child could do it, but it felt like recreating HAL in the movie "2001" - exciting stuff. In my mind, "Vertical Plane" kinda weaves all this stuff together as reflecting an era.

@mesapdarecriminals0integri563

Жыл бұрын

Programmed to answer questions? Pffft, that’s nothing. You remember LOVEDOS.EXE?? Lol

This would have been one hell of an X Files episode.

@M7WRC

2 жыл бұрын

The X Files had a couple of computer / AI / VR episodes and they were all absolutely awful! :)

@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432

2 жыл бұрын

@@M7WRC yeah, can't say you're wrong.

@leemaddison1286

2 жыл бұрын

Or Doctor Who (back when it was good....)

@o-renishii4277

2 жыл бұрын

There is an Twilight Zone Episode which reminds me of this.

@ephennell4ever

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I can hear Mulder muttering to Scully, as they separate, "I *want* to believe!"

I'll tell you guys a story I still can't explain and I spent years trying to solve it. I was 18 and was a senior in high school. I was at a party in a home about a ten minute drive from my home. Very late at night my friend and I realized we didn't have anyone to take us home so we decided to walk home through the forest. This happened in Pennsylvania and all around our small towns is thick forest with atv trails throughout. As we made it into the forest it began to lightning. Halfway to our hometown it began to pour and we could hardly see the trail. My friend spotted a huge cave entrance on one of the rock walls on one side of the trail. We went in and started a small fire to wait out the storm. Now we knew these woods like the back of our hands and as we sat in this cave we discussed why we never found this place before. As we were sitting there my friend found an Indian arrowhead that was in very good condition. You can find these all around where I live. We eventually fell asleep and when we woke up it was daylight and the rain had stopped. We walked out of the cave and instantly knew where we were. That night we decided to go back and show our friends what we found. The only problem was we couldn't find the cave. Both of us knew exactly where in the forest this cave should have been but we could not find it. We were very confused and after speaking at length we remembered everything exactly the same. A few days later we remembered the arrowhead my friend found and since he and his father collected them he put it in a display case on the wall. We went to get it as proof and the slot he put it in was empty. He asked his dad why he took it out and his dad said he didn't touch it. Now we were really like wtf is going on here. We started investigating and everytime we had some time together we would look for the cave but never found it or the arrowhead. I'm 45 now and still walk my dogs in that forest and always in the back of my head is that cave. I don't understand what happened to us that night. Did we both hallucinate the same exact thing? If we did where were we? We were dry the next morning so we had to be in some sort of shelter. I've never found the cave and still to this day whenever I see my friend the first thing we talk about is if either of us found it. How does a huge cave just disappear? Neither of us ever found any answers and imo something paranormal happened. Anyway it was the strangest thing that ever happened to me and seems like a channel that would appreciate the story. If anyone has questions I will be happy to answer because I too am still looking for answers.

@jeremywilliams4381

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting to read your experience. I have no suggestions or questions for you, just figured since I took the time to read you story then it would be polite to address you.

@villedocvalle

Жыл бұрын

Fake

@butter7734

Жыл бұрын

@@villedocvalle it's not fake I could tell you exactly where this happened and any other information you want besides the name of my friend unless he doesn't care and what would I have to gain from this. I don't care about attention or you as a matter of fact. It's just something that happened that I could never figure out and shit like that bothers me.

@mylife6453

Жыл бұрын

Explanation. You are living in a simulation that can respond to your needs as they arise, and reform as needed as well. have you ever seen flocks of birds at sunset? where do they go at night? Trees? Look for them at night.

@angeliquesengir6479

Жыл бұрын

Did you ever go all the way back to that party house and retrace your exact path?

This reminds me of when I first got a phone as a child and just impromptu role-played as myself from the future, saying random kids were married and successful

If I was the researcher, I would have removed the keyboard or disabled it. And then monitored the situation to see if the messages were still arriving.

Did anyone suspect the cats, I mean look at them there, plotting their next message! I remember watching this back in the 90's. Great video.

@TheVicar

2 жыл бұрын

This is a classic example of cats walking on keyboards

@angr3819

2 жыл бұрын

Cunning creatures :)

@davidjames579

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVicar Right, no one in the house when the messages appeared. That's not entirely true.

@TheVicar

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidjames579 Maybe it was their cleaner just taking the piss out of them?

@davidjames579

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVicar No it was definitely the cats. Those upturned chairs occurred because there was a Dreamie stuck in the lining.

Imagine living there with no idea of all this then suddenly seeing your front door on youtube 😂

@ballsrgrossnugly

2 жыл бұрын

The current owner of that house, right now, dismantling every wall and room, brick by brick in a misguided effort to find that message that's on the book's hiding place... Sigh.

I would really be interested to know if there is still any activity in Meadow cottage and if you can gain permission to go down there with a BBC Micro or a modern laptop, please do and let us know of your findings. Maybe 2109 would like our more up to date technology ?

@shannonrhoads7099

Жыл бұрын

Definately, go to the source and set up a BBC Micro or similar era computer AND a modern laptop. You could also set up a camera to see if anyone is slipping up to the computer(s) while you are out. A followup at Oxford seems interesting, although one would think 16th century bokes aren't availible for perusal by the general public...

@uhn-nohn4272

Жыл бұрын

Yes I think that would be very interesting, just the feel of the place--you could visit the places they did, etc....why not?

@neilcarroll4579

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but how awkward would it be if you went there and the new owners ( I'm assuming there are new owners) gave you permission and you plugged a BBC computer in and you both just sat there making small talk for hours with nothing happening

The weirdest computer thing I ever witnessed was my friend still being in a Skype call after his computer turned off.

@Brojack69

Жыл бұрын

Say what now? Can you explain?

@MikeCrain

Жыл бұрын

@@Brojack69 we never figured out how it happened. He just needed to turn his computer off during a Skype call and we suddenly heard him hysterically laughing because he still heard us but his PC was off.

@prototyping5603

Жыл бұрын

@@MikeCrainmaybe the screen turned off but the computer lagged behind? Very interesting story I’ve had similar happen

@treinenliefde

Жыл бұрын

​@@MikeCrain not really similar but my headphones actually connect before it appears to be on and disconnects to my laptop after I've already turned it off. I suspect it's a similair case in your situation. The computer says it's off or appears to be off, but in reality is still processing information. Makes it appear to the viewer that it's actually turning off quicker than it really is.

@MikeCrain

11 ай бұрын

@@treinenliefde that might be the case. Hell, if I unplug my computer the motherboard LED stays on for a little while after as the residual power drains I guess.

The IBM 5100 is the computer that makes time travel possible.

@rebusak47

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah steins;gate.

@bitwize

2 жыл бұрын

The John Titor urban legend predates and inspired Steins;Gate.

@FindecanorNotGmail

2 жыл бұрын

If you can hack _CERN_ : a IBN 5100 If you can hack _time_ : three Microbee, a ZX Spectrum and a PowerGlove

@rebusak47

2 жыл бұрын

@@FindecanorNotGmail What about a Divergence Meter?

@BlackBox863

2 жыл бұрын

4Chan time traveler

It does honestly seem like something a bunch of bored teachers would dream up, playing with some new technology.

@davidjames579

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, teachers never lie.

@basedcoins

Жыл бұрын

​@@davidjames579 lmao

Ken and Debbie were either really creepy or really fun people.

@kylehereKC

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps both?

@thecongo8505

Жыл бұрын

😂

@Aix_Plainer

Жыл бұрын

Suspiciously the RL stuff only happened to Debbie. And messages mostly only appeared when she was alone at the computer and nothing happened when people where looking at it. So she either has MP or craves for attention. We only get people defending Ken´s character, nothing about her.

@hedgehog3180

Ай бұрын

@@Aix_Plainer She could also just be really funny.

The Beeb. Was my first micro (Model B). It was way, way ahead of its time and had one of the best, if not THE best implementations of BASIC Interpreter (BBC BASIC); allowing you to 'embed' machine code routines within a BASIC program. Had a number of spare ROM slots under the hood allowing you to plug in whatever extra software you wanted, getting around its 32K RAM limit by memory 'page' switching. It also introduced me to a game called ELITE which became a cult classic and is now in its latest incarnation as ELITE Dangerous. I miss my Beeb.

For me it went from intriguing to grade A BS as soon as the poltergeist activity started.

@DidierSampaolo

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the girlfriend starting to have vision was my tipping point. As far as I'm concerned, she's responsible for all of this.

@diracflux

2 жыл бұрын

@@DidierSampaolo Its 1984 Britain. Drugs could be responsible for all of this.

@gerardcox9584

2 жыл бұрын

My tipping point was when laye lines were mentioned. Back in the 80's anything paranormal or other worldy involved laye lines. Including crop circles.

@philrod1

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerardcox9584 - I guffawed at that too. I would have been more convinced if she _hadn't_ found a Ley Line that went directly through the cottage. I doubt anyone has gone looking for a Ley Line and NOT found one.

@ballsrgrossnugly

2 жыл бұрын

For me it was grade D BS from the jump unfortunately. But it was interesting seeing how an English professor somehow trolled his friend for literal years and tormented him into writing a book and then going into hiding. Someone is a monster in this scenario... a living person in 1985 was a sociopath with a twisted sense of humour.

I'm an extreme skeptic when it comes to this sort of stuff, but I find myself really wanting this book to show up. What a compelling story, even if it's likely a hoax!

This has to be one of the most fascinating stories I’ve ever heard, and you told it amazingly. Wow. I couldn’t look away, riveting

@adoculos4521

Жыл бұрын

Fgs, don't be so gullible, it's a HOAX

@119jle

Жыл бұрын

Biden voter

@adoculos4521

Жыл бұрын

@@119jle Are you? Not interesting.

@sauriel596

Жыл бұрын

yea, its pretty interesting. Mysteries gives some spice to life

@bazinga1831

Жыл бұрын

ur dumb if you believe this

Thanks for your post!!! It's intriguing. Will watch more as time goes on. Have shared it, as well.

The really elaborate trolls are the best ones.

@jonathansoko5368

2 жыл бұрын

The more we lie on the internet, the tougher skynet will have it later on

@AcornElectron

2 жыл бұрын

Ayuh!

@AlMcpherson79

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathansoko5368 SSHH! she sees all!

@chrismeighen5463

2 жыл бұрын

This kind of stuff is more pathological attention-seeking than clever trolling. The modern grammar gave the game away at the very start.

@draugrdraugr

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine trolling your friend so hard and they believed it so much that they wrote a book about it

As if the "time travellers and communicating throughout centuries using a BBC Micro" wasn't hard enough to believe, suddenly there's ALSO ghost activity in the house? This really sounds like someone going "how far can I go with this prank". Also, the first messages really seemed more along the "I can see you in my house, you stole it, this message is spooky" vibe than "just" a normal person from the 16th century dictating messages to his chimney. The only consistent thing about this story is the inconsistency throughout the entire thing.

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, if I were a time message sender and knew I'd become a ghost, I would obviously prove both by sending a message about the ghost doing something, then do it as ghost, and vice versa.

@keiiko

2 жыл бұрын

There are actually cases in England about poltergeists doing such things like movings furnitures, stacking up things and so on. This phenomena does really exist. Why is it happening or what or who is upto one believes in ghost proofs. Now can such phenomena type on computer? Surely can. Can it type meaningful words? Sometimes it seems it's intelligent. Can it write letters? Who knows, maybe, maybe not. To me it seems the story is partially believable at least as it was based on true events in some form and somewhat historical facts.

@d2factotum

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's where it all started falling apart for me. If it had *just* been the ghost messages on the computer it would have been more believable.

@johnknight9150

2 жыл бұрын

I've got to side with the linguistic expert. That probably flew over most people's heads, but they were looking at basic forms of conjugation that don't even require the average person to think about. Things like I am, she was, he is, they are, etc. We modern English speakers think we can just throw in a "thou hast" and you have Middle English, but it doesn't work that way. When people make basic conjugation errors, it stands out like a sore thumb.

@Trenchbroom

2 жыл бұрын

@@keiiko We had "moving furniture" ghost activity in the U.S. as well in the 70s and 80s (Amityville NY house that inspired the "Amityville Horror" movies being the most famous). All shown to be frauds years later. Sorry but the phenomena really does NOT exist.

Thanks so much for this! Absolutely loved it. I really like these topics, and hearing about one (that i did not even know about in the first place!) from someone not usually making this type of content, was very refreshing. Very good production all in all. 5/5

i know its nearly 2 years since you published this - but thank you as I have just watched it - a fascinating and indepth production - has there been any updates ?

Although it seems like a poorly crafted hoax, it is, in fact, a poorly crafted hoax.

@andylawrence7955

2 жыл бұрын

and you have the proof no doubt

@earledemise5827

2 жыл бұрын

@@andylawrence7955 it is healthy to be sceptical, opinions do not require proof ( even when they state it as fact because it is still merely an opinion).

@guns4toilets

2 жыл бұрын

And the man responsible... you guessed it- Frank Stallone

@smartyyone2000

2 жыл бұрын

What is poor is your being

@zvisger

2 жыл бұрын

Ya lol. Ppl trippin if they think this is real. Great video by Nostalgia Nerd as usual, lame hoax.

Gives new meaning to the term "ghost in the machine". There should be an 80s style movie made of this, written, directed and scored by John Carpenter. This would be right up his alley.

@dakidblack

2 жыл бұрын

There is a movie, and by the that exact name, look it up written by william davies

@lavona8204

2 жыл бұрын

There is an anime

@marcoslaureano5562

2 жыл бұрын

@@dakidblack Seriously? I had no idea. Gonna have to check it out now.

@marcoslaureano5562

2 жыл бұрын

@@lavona8204 Does the anime have the same title as the book?

@LoadDiscrepancy

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcoslaureano5562 no, the anime one I think people are gesturing to, is " Ghost in the shell" about a sentient lifeform that is born on the Internet and named project 2701. The movie is of the cyberpunk genre and sprouted an interesting story ark in the stand alone complex, that is loosely based on J D Salingers works. Worth a watch but probably took me 10 views to get my head around every tiny finesse of detail and reference.

Please make more videos. Dig deeper. Can we see all the messages back and forth? Not just the ones given in the video. This was fascinating.

This reminds me of a story of two British couples traveling in France by car I believe in 1979. They got off the main highway, found an inn for the night. The inn appeared old fashioned, the woman was in an old fashioned dress, the windows had no glass but only shudders and the beds no pillows. They stay the night and next morning talk to two gendarmes in old fashioned clothes. The men asked them about how to get to their destination. The policemen were confused. They take pictures, pay the small bill and leave. later they try to stay there again on their way back but can never find it. I believe this was later on British TV.

@justinwaller5122

Жыл бұрын

True story. Time slip.

@ganeshnaik6503

Жыл бұрын

I wonder same currency could work

@elvispopovic482

Жыл бұрын

How did they pay the bill? Currency changes over time. You cannot pay a bill at another time with modern money.

@southernguy35

Жыл бұрын

@@ganeshnaik6503 , I did find a link to this incident. They mention this. There is a video of the TV program about it but I couldn't find it.

@ericneiman5556

Жыл бұрын

What happened with the pictures

Well - to be fair to _Ken..._ he outright said in that interview that "Oh, I fully expect that there is a natural explanation for all of this... there just is not one now." If anyone hoaxed it, it likely wasn't him. He sounded perfectly okay with the question, and didn't try to say things like "Well, we had all these experts come, and..." Nothing. He simply said that he expects that it's something normal just unexplained.

@videosfromthefuture9427

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@fehmeh6292

Жыл бұрын

The events absolutely required for it to have perpetrated by the household.

@kennethpeterson4068

Жыл бұрын

He said multiple people had access to the machine...so any one of them could have inserted a command line in the auto.exe...

@jeffbguarino

Жыл бұрын

@BB Sky I had an Eprom programmer in 1980 and was burning them and had an UV eraser. You put the Eproms in the Ultraviolet light eraser for about an hour. I still have all this stuff. So it would be easy to modify the Eprom. I imagine they opened up the computer to look inside to see if there was a massive add on sitting there? Do you remember the crop circles. Scientists said it would be impossible for people to make them. It had to be aliens. That went on for 20 years until a group of them confessed. They used simple methods to make big giant designs at night in the dark. Another thing they could have done is clean the keyboard and put some invisible powder on the keyboard that was like visible in black light. That would show when they left the house that someone was typing. Probably other methods , I can think of other ways you would know. Also put some black ink on the keyboard, like the dye they use in bags of money at the bank and then check the fingers of everyone after a message to see if they have dye on the fingers. Clean the keyboard and then after a message appears , check the keyboard for fingerprints. That is what they should have done , instead of deleting the question , when these investigators were alone in the room. Ink the keyboard with unremovable dye. place the keyboard near the edge of the table and take a picture of it . Most people will move the keyboard a little for more comfortable typing. So just put it in an awkward position and see if it gets moved.

@glynnisthomas9165

Жыл бұрын

@@videosfromthefuture9427 Wtf?

I love stuff like this. But you can see how the prank evolved: it clearly started out as a ghost of a former resident, who was unaware they were dead. Then it changed into the whole time traveller thing. And then they started adding verifiable details, so they had to reveal they were using a fake name originally etc. Not sure who was in on it, but probably all of them. It's a good story that will live on forever.. well done!

@redoz9768

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, it obviously began as a ghost prank, and evolved from there.

@crusher1980

2 жыл бұрын

Human souls dont wander the earth, they are either in heaven or hell. These entities are demons/fallen angels (old gods/aliens).

@2GENDERS_MAN_WOMEN_CRY_ABOUTIT

2 жыл бұрын

@@crusher1980 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... And then you woke up? Or are you still sleeping?

@ironlion45

2 жыл бұрын

@@crusher1980 You been eating moldy bread?

@s47zloudj35

2 жыл бұрын

@@crusher1980 I agree

I'm 53, so, in the USA, we had Commodore 64's seems comparable so, this is close to home in terms of technology. This story is pretty amazing not sure what to make of it, but, thanks for taking the deep dive.

@njones420

Жыл бұрын

The C64s were much more popular (and better) than the BBCs over here in the UK too. I only knew one person who had one growing up.

I recently found your channel and I have so far loved every video you have made. I like spooky stuff, so this was a nice surprise when it came up on my watch next. Keep up the great work dude!

The cryptic nature of these messages I think falsifies them. Like the SETI program it's reasonable to assume that messages are made to be understood by the recipient. "Paranormal" messages always seem to be made to intrigue and to lead nowhere.

@AaronLitz

2 жыл бұрын

It's the age-old prophecy method: be as vague as possible so the listener can apply just about any meaning to the message. It's how mediums and prophets and psychics and astrologers throughout history have always operated. If the prophecy doesn't happen like you expected it just means you didn't interpret it correctly!

@uncannyvalley2350

2 жыл бұрын

The cow will bark three times, the rain will fall up, the mirror will see inwards, and the eye will behold ... That will be $50

Last night I watched this video and found it fascinating. Eventually I remembered the Stephen King story, published in *Playboy* in 1983, called "Word Processor of the Gods." Without giving too much away, the story talks about a computer that can change reality depending on what you type into it. It occurs to me to wonder if somebody involved in this mystery knew about that story and decided to run with it.

@mattr.1887

Жыл бұрын

Great short story by SK! One of my favorites.

@jerseyjoyride1316

Жыл бұрын

Would be hard to track down as most people read Playboy for the articles....😏

@MatthewWathen

Жыл бұрын

They made it into a short film. I remember watching it years ago.

@halonothing1

5 ай бұрын

This story was in the Book of short stories called Skeleton Crew. Recognizable by the toy cymbal banging monkey on the cover. I loved the premise of a word processor that makes anything you type come to fruition. But it was way too short and not fleshed out well enough for all the potential it had. It was only 4 or 5 pages long. He basically has a bit of fun with the word processor a little, then kills his wife and the story's done. You kind of get the feeling King was sitting at his desk, staring at his word processor trying to think of what to write about when he made this. "what to write about... a magic word processor!" Heh. It's worth the read, though. Out of Skeleton Crew, I also recommend reading Jaunt and The Mist. All 3 can be read in less than 2 hours.

@Number4lead

5 ай бұрын

​@@jerseyjoyride1316😂

What suprised me the most is that I live near Dodleston and Hawarden High and never heard of this until now. Top vid ,👍

"Econet was Acorn Computers's low-cost local area network system, intended for use by schools and small businesses. It was widely used in those areas, and was supported by a large number of different computer and server systems produced both by Acorn and by other companies."

As another UK KZreadr from the 80s, I really appreciate all the effort you go to for these videos. Some seriously amazing research, the series on nes/megadrive/atari are some of the best things I've seen on youtube.

@leombayard

2 жыл бұрын

You were a KZreadr in the 80s? How was the monetization back then?

@tire_reviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@leombayard It was great, Littlewoods had all the budget in the world

@velvetfont_

2 жыл бұрын

how was being an 80s youtuber

@dyscotopia

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously he's from the 2180s and using the tachyon disruption field feature of the latest KZread Studio app available in his timeline.

@blacksunshine7485

2 жыл бұрын

Another time traveller

That one of the files was called REATE tells me it was made by someone who pressed C for the Create menu option and then kept typing. And probably looking at the keys rather than the screen, thinking they had to type the whole word in. So unless you believe the time travellers were using EDWORD with the same menu system, it was created by a human on that BBC Micro, and probably an inexperienced one at that.

@RaduP3

2 жыл бұрын

also it suggests the person typing was in a rush

@memejest

2 жыл бұрын

This is undeniable proof.

@d3l3tes00n

2 жыл бұрын

The "covfefe" of that generation.

@michaelashman

2 жыл бұрын

Edword or Ed Wood?

@robg7970

2 жыл бұрын

@@d3l3tes00n No , covfefe actually meant something . He wasn't misspelling coffee or coverage , it stood for the " Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically For Engagements act in 2017.

I would love to see a follow up where you investigate this further

@johnchris8181

Жыл бұрын

Radar Stations of Dodlestone Area, preferably.

Interesting story for sure. I read the book a couple of years ago - it was re-released, available for I think under £10 - prior to that yes, it was crazy expensive to get a second hand copy as out of print. Thanks for the video.

So intriguing. I was thinking I’d just watch a few minutes then just got sucked right into the whole thing! Yes please do a follow up!

@DB.KOOPER

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Same here... very interesting.

@samuelnelsen8872

2 жыл бұрын

A follow up seems to be in order??? Who knows you maybe the missing fellow to find Thomas's missing book.

@JackSarfatti

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelnelsen8872 yes, look for the book at Oxford.

@chezLynn

2 жыл бұрын

I stumbled upon and got caught up in this video, too, and was impressed by the presentation. I'd definitely be interested in seeing a follow-up, especially whether or not this mysterious book can be found : )

@samuelnelsen8872

2 жыл бұрын

@@JackSarfatti hopefully it wasn't destroyed during WWII? Don't know which buildings were hit during the bombings.

The big clue here is that the computer had to be left alone for the messages to appear. That means someone was simply typing them.

@newforestpixie5297

2 жыл бұрын

Good point Mr Logic 👍

@adamburdt8794

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and when things started getting extra suss they would not respond for large swaths of time. I dunno, kinda like a human being would do to avoid getting caught.

@scottmartin7717

2 жыл бұрын

What a blatant crock of shit

@rogerdodger1790

2 жыл бұрын

Lol yup

@johannaholmgren8088

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe (halfway through the video, I just stopped watching. What a load of garbage. This story could be debunked in 5 minutes by a 5 year old) that the presenter made the comment "And to this day, no one has been able to satisfactorily explain what happened". Really? How is that even possible??

There's a new edition of 'The Vertical Plane' published 2021. I bought one on Amazon a few weeks back at £14-40.

I would not be surprised if another printing of ‘The Vertical Plane’ by Ken Webster gets done sometime since this video has been released.

What breaks this story is not the grammar, spelling, question about horses... it's the idea that someone in 2109, having the hindsight of how much technology evolved, would pick a BBC Micro to do this weird communications experiment... Someone in the 1980s would, because the Micro was probably the best thing at the time from their perspective...

@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432

2 жыл бұрын

wait, is there any actual information that the 2109 people actually used a BBC Micro?

@imkluu

2 жыл бұрын

@pnorbert2222 John Titor was from 2036.

@TheHaratashi

2 жыл бұрын

If I was around in 2109, the BBC MIcro is exactly what I would pick to do a communications experiment because if I chose the late 1990's and later people wouldn't even notice.

@roromil2441

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 The ones in the 1980s used it, but the ones in 2109 picked who to contact and when. Someone in 2109 would know how much technology evolved from 1980s to 1990s or 2000s, and yet they chose to contact someone who was using a BBC Micro...

@T57Custodian

2 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't use a smart phone as you could back track and find the source the BBC micro seems perfect

Hi, I'm writing this message in 2110, after finding this interesting video on the internet archive of the 22nd century. After some historical research, I can confirm that you did go to the college looking for the book, and you did find it. 📚Good work.

@ArruVision

2 жыл бұрын

I only went to get a cuppa tea, and then BOOM, this comment appears. Spooky,

@azmanabdula

2 жыл бұрын

Im from 2150 Do not listen to this man For the love of humanity do not listen to this man

@TheVicar

2 жыл бұрын

@@azmanabdula Are there still Peloton adverts every 15 seconds in 2150?

@azmanabdula

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVicar Wasnt add blocker invented in 2009?

@TheVicar

2 жыл бұрын

@@azmanabdula Pelotons have learnt to CRUSH their way through the ad blocking barriers

What an imaginative group of friends. They could've wrote a cool sci-fi show on Netflix.

Great video! New fan here! TL;DR: To that end, I'd very much enjoy hearing that you continued researching this story - not because I believe you'll find an answer, but because I believe the journey will be worth it. I've noted that there are primarily two groups of people; skeptics, and believers. Both can be securely bound within the same box of limitations, and in my opinion, secretly seek the same thing: an answer. I differ from these two groups. I do not seek answers. I am neither skeptical, nor a believer. If I were to describe myself, I reckon the easiest declaration would be thus: I am a blank parchment that takes input, logs it, and assigns it a set value of veracity. That veracity will always start at 50% plausible, 50% implausible... and I have no issue with that logged info remaining in that state, forever. Therefore, when I run into stories like this, I have no qualms letting the story sit in an unsolved state for the rest of my life. Though I am a man of science, I find it impractical, and even illogical to ignore, or to discredit that which is often beyond the current capabilities of the human species. I cannot disprove a God being. I cannot disprove ghosts. Hell, I can't even prove or disprove the Big Bang, nor the laws of Thermodynamics. Though we, as a species, have used science to explain our observations, I've yet to hear any logical reason as to why I should choose to/not to believe something science has proven/disproven. Science applies to only that which we can observe, and with each passing moment, or ignorance is made more clear by the day, and our observations are made to often appear childish. An example is the James Webb telescope, appearing to discredit the Big Bang theory, with but its first few images; or black holes shredding the theory of relativity, and probably the laws of thermodynamics as well. I won't even delve into the mystery caused by white holes. While I find science to be one of our most valuable tools, I don't see it as the end all, be all that skeptics do, nor do I find belief to provide any real solutions to events either. I write all of this, not to disarm, or dishearten people in either group. Rather, I write this to suggest that "answers" may not be what we should all be looking for. For me, I feel that observing events, and simply logging them, while leaving the "ending" open for more, or no further input, to be the most logical pursuit. Answers can always come later, should we ever be able to properly, and with 100% accuracy, prove them. For now, I simply "enjoy the ride." To that end, I'd very much enjoy hearing that you continued researching this story - not because I believe you'll find an answer, but because I believe the journey will be worth it.

@bbflyer5952

Жыл бұрын

was this written by two people? the first line and the TL;DR seem like a "common tongue" whereas the long description is way more observant; the word choice and structure almost seemed to be chosen and not written.

I worked in a school only 5 miles or so away from the Hawarden school you speak of. I personally knew the teacher who helped developed the Edword word processor. I made regular trips to Clwyd Technics, who used to deal with the BBC computer. AND I have used an eprom programmer to program spare ROMs for the school at the time. It IS possible ( done it myself at the time ) to use a disc sector editor to change the file BEFORE it's burnt to the eprom . However to link that in, in a random way would be difficult. Also the rs232 could be used to connect, and communicate with the BBC. Econet, Teletext, and tube connections as well. However, I think the whole thing is down to a fanciful young woman with romantic notions and a interest in history

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

just one question where the hell does that guy in the 15th century getting the proper electricity to run a bbc micro in that time as they didn't have 110 volt or 220 volt electricity back then

@TheNightstalker80

2 жыл бұрын

@@raven4k998 no he had a different device, it's not clear what it was or how it works but at 25:40 it's explained pretty good

@glenwaldrop8166

2 жыл бұрын

@@raven4k998 He supposedly got a device from the future. Look at the processing power of the BBC computer vs our phones, a CPU made to those specs on 2020 tech would be capable of running from a wrist watch battery for years, throw a solar panel on it, only use it literally to write a letter via dictation, yeah, it could run indefinitely. It would cost more power for the voice to text than anything else. Regardless, proper battery maintenance (ie; design it so that the battery can never be drained) and I could design a low power computer that is recharged by solar with integrated battery that would last at least ~7 years or so with little to no maintenance. Not saying I buy the story, they had to leave the PC on and leave the house for this to work, but the theoretical future computer in the past without a power source is the least of the problems.

The part where Debbie starts getting visions, dreams, whatever, and then does a "from memory" drawing just made me go "oh I see, so she is an artist" and I honestly in my mind jumped to that explanation for everything. Just seems like a very clever creative exercise and a hoax. I love it though. You should totally go to Oxford and search for the book, sounds like a good fun. Ty for the video!

@AnonEyeMouse

2 жыл бұрын

Dismissing all the fantastical elements, as a work of installation art it is quite excellent. The research, narrative and guile with which it was executed makes it a shame that the artist will never get the credit. Whoever she may be.

@Batnano

2 жыл бұрын

yeah no,that part make me go "oh,its fake"

I don't think the book would be hidden at the university, I think it would have been hidden in the house because Thomas, Tomas knew someone would be in the house that he could trust to receive the book because he was talking to them. That is of course only if the story is true. Definitely go visit there with a BBC and some type of scanning gear such as GPR (ground penitrating radar).

First time to this channel. I enjoyed that, great work. Also, I really liked the music at the end 😎

An expedition to find the lost book sounds like a lot of fun. Just imagine if somebody _did_ find it. As sceptically minded as I am, the story surely captures the imagination and a followup investigation would be most welcome.

@analogmatrix1442

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good in theory but I doubt Oxford University wants weirdos pulling up floor boards and destroying property.

@tplwork1285

2 жыл бұрын

@@analogmatrix1442 maybe with enough funding (coming from media and individual patrons) someone could use some of those machines that are used to scan through everything, including 'petrified' books well enough to read the text?

@analogmatrix1442

2 жыл бұрын

@@tplwork1285 start the petition 👍🏽

@satortenet

2 жыл бұрын

If such book ever comes up, man... what a mind fuck.

@NGNetwork1

2 жыл бұрын

IF such a book were to turn up ... our perception of time would be tossed out the window.

On a purely technical note, although it is highly unlikely that a single machine taken home from school would have been connected to econet, if it was, everything described would have been doable by a dedicated remote hoaxer to an unmodified machine, as it is possible to remotely read and write arbitary areas of memory.

@777anarchist

2 жыл бұрын

Or it just was the other bloke they were sharing the house with.

@halfbakedproductions7887

2 жыл бұрын

@@777anarchist We only have their word that this even happened at all.

@777anarchist

2 жыл бұрын

@@halfbakedproductions7887 Yes. I'm pretty sure they made it up because that would explain everything at once.

@greenaum

2 жыл бұрын

You could maybe have snuck in some two-way radio setup. Maybe running with thin wires to the micro itself. Radios were bulky back then, and a transmitter would have interfered with the operation of the computer. Error-correction and the like, it's all asking quite a bit. "Down the Earth cable" is a non-starter. Wires though, would snap if they tried move the machine. Onboard radio, no, not practical. That and it just seems simplest and most reliable, to have an accomplice sneaking about doing the few bits that had witnesses waiting downstairs, the rest just being lies. Like a magic trick, you never actually see it happen, it's always behind a curtain. You see before, and after, but never during. Still, interesting old Econet, I can see why they went with IPv4 instead for the Internet. If we *had* gone with Econet, by now a bug might well have mutated up into sentience.

@LostCylon

2 жыл бұрын

This is only a few years earlier than I got into computers, but from PC knowledge, I know a file could be deleted, then undeleted and read again. If this computer did auto save as was said earlier, could this have happened?

Loved this one of the best videos you've done!

I have fond memories of the BBC Micro. When I first saw a program being loaded from a disc, rather than a cassette tape, I was blown away by how fast it was!

Ok. So I'm just saying. If I were to receive messages from the past. I would give the true challenge. I would tell the medieval guy to bury a trinket. Carve something into one of the floor board or any original part of the house that is still there...if something comes up, either it'll be aged and tarnished, or it'll be obviously fake. Done. Deal.

@PlatinumTales

2 жыл бұрын

Then we would all still say its a hoax and Ken just scratched that into the floor boards himself lol. I've experienced supernatural things in person, so I totally believe in this stuff, but there are for sure a lot of plot holes in this story as shown at the end of this video.

@lennysmileyface

2 жыл бұрын

@@PlatinumTales Easy, tell him to bury some animal bones in a particular place. You'll be able to tell recent bones from 500 year old ones.

@topsgaming4266

2 жыл бұрын

What if there are parallel universes where something done to that universe may not show up in ours.

@williammccarthy5248

2 жыл бұрын

Like LtCdr Data’s severed head.

@beezle1976

2 жыл бұрын

There's the possibility that even if real the item could found and moved in the few hundreds years since it was buried, so its not really a solution.

I think the key thing is that woman being left alone with the computer. Also when they typed the message, they had to leave and come back. They could have just sat there waiting for the response, which due to the time travel aspect would have been instantaneous! (i do love these kind of stories though!)

@frechjo

2 жыл бұрын

I've watched enough sci-fi to know that everything can be solved by conveniently devised technology limitations or other plot devises. Say, for instance, that setting the time of the connection takes a huge amount of energy. It's a one time event, or done only when really needed. But keeping the connection synchronized is, relatively speaking, cheap, so they keep it open and time advances more or less the same for all ends. Even better, once they disconnect and reconnect to other time, they end up connecting to some other random instance of the multiverse. That, sadly, was not in the collective imaginary, otherwise it would have featured into the story no doubt. (It could have also explained the book not being found!) Or how about, they didn't care about making them wait? The future people seemed uninterested in illuminating anyone on what was going on, except for the UFO enthusiast who was lost from narration. If you want to believe, you can, no matter how absurd it is. Conspiracy theories, ghost stories, religions, they all prove it. I think the main point here, is that even if it was sound and solid, it being real would still be the least likely option, but one that attracts the imagination, one that's exciting, so people still want it to be true.

@TheFerretLives

2 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to find out if she ever did any other kinds of hoaxes, ppl like this who go to such lengths rarely only do it the once. She didn’t cash in on it either.

@benjaminkadoche4378

2 жыл бұрын

I just came here to have a nostalgic spaz at your zub avatar. Damn that brings back some old memories!!

@magicknight8412

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminkadoche4378 lol it fits nicely as an avatar and in some websites its animated :)

17:35: The test-questions were typed into the computer b4 deleting them. What about keystroke loggers by which someone could capture what was typed on the computer (whether it was then immediately erased or not)? Did they exist back then? The theory that microphones could've been placed to pick up the sound of typing to guess what had been typed makes no sense. It could not be guessed what was typed by just hearing typing.

@zaptainkuboom5520

Жыл бұрын

A.I. can after it learn you typing patterns, but it didn't exist at that time

Also this video was seriously well produced, Kudos all.

What makes me discredit the entire series of events, aside from the inconsistencies in the story, is that 2109 seemingly made no effort to convince us of its actual existence. Even though we would likely argue its pure chance, they could have simply given a detail or two about an event that would happen in the near future. The fall of an empire, beginning of a war, etc. After all, the Soviet Union would fall 6 years latter, the Gulf war around the same time and the first Chechen war in 1994. But they made no such effort as best I can tell. And that makes no sense to me, seeing that anyone today if contacted by a time traveler would demand some kind of proof of their validity. And I cant see anyone in 1985 being any different. The only proof of existence given was from LW, but that can be researched. Perhaps one of the original players had come across that information while at Oxford. So while an interesting story, I doubt its real.

@kagenlim5271

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, any small detail could have changed the future heavily. Imagine if gorbachev was killed on August 19 1991, or that the russian SFSR comtinued to sign the treaty keeping the USSR alive, It would have completely changed the fall of the soviet union

@sparkplug1018

2 жыл бұрын

@@kagenlim5271 True, but easy enough to prove they're are real without giving details. A war will start a plan crashes and an empire falls, no where near enough to know what to change, but enough that when those 3 things happen you know they were legit. Because without some way to verify that, its fake.

@Gamechamp3000

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparkplug1018 Predicting future events so vaguely wouldn't be impressive, since there's so much room for interpretation. Rather than historical facts, I think more convincing evidence would be yet-unknown scientific knowledge that could be tested to be true. Making a legitimate world changing scientific discovery in pursuit of a prank would be pretty impressive. Especially if that knowledge was, for example, the mechanisms by which time travel can be done.

@tsartomato

2 жыл бұрын

you mean besides the whole ordeal being stupid bullshit starting with the premise?

@chandranapier2259

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with your reasoning.

I've always loved this story because the same thing happened to my family, our dialogue wasn't as involved and interesting as theirs but the message we got still haunts me to this day... "We've been trying to contact you regarding your cars extended warranty" ughh.... *Shivers

@realJimMarshall

2 жыл бұрын

That's better than what I got. I just kept getting "local singles available in your area."

@ULTIMATEGOOSE01

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@PaulaXism

2 жыл бұрын

@@realJimMarshall I keep getting weird ones demanding I require something called "viagra" which apparently is only useful to males who suffer from being useless to women... what is this sorcery? How do all these people from around the world know my name and mail address?.. and knowing all that why do they not know I'm female???

@oldmuso586

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha!

Very interesting story! I enjoyed watching this video all the way through.

15:15 The future was speaking to the past. A computer was in that location broadcasting into the past. These broadcasts were being sent to a machine in the past as a test. However at some point in-between the messages were being intercepted. Whatever method they were using to communicate perhaps this computer was being used as a relay point. Like a cell phone relay tower.

This was pretty darned interesting and I congratulate you on taking this side-step. When I used a BBC B at home, no one ever appeared, although the box did sometimes get hot and smoke a bit. I also smoked a bit, but not enough to time travel -- just fly my ship on Elite with the lights out.

@justinellison4214

2 жыл бұрын

Yes tell me more!

@Ndlanding

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinellison4214 I've been sworn to secrecy.

@Dong_Harvey

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes time slows down

@YakobtoshiNakamoto

2 жыл бұрын

This made me chuckle 😂

@Ndlanding

2 жыл бұрын

@@YakobtoshiNakamoto It will.

I watched the whole video, but it was an obvious hoax before the 10 minute mark. Dude was trying to bolster his career and even tried to make a profit off his book.

@Nyctophora

2 жыл бұрын

How so? The book had a small print run and that's why it goes for so much these days - second hand, for which he doesn't get a penny.

@AaronLitz

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nyctophora Only because he failed at getting the hoax to catch on.

@JonnoPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@@AaronLitz exactly. It's fairly obvious in hindsight, but some people just really want to believe I guess.

@HarishBabuM

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonnoPlays have seen you in the comment section of Praveen Mohan's vids 😁

@B-26354

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nyctophora How is it not an obvious hoax? So many basic facts wrong with so many opportunities for someone to have enabled it. Ridiculous story.

In the future I plan on a bumper sticker for my hover craft, "I travelled time, it sucked gas."

The BBC Micro, a work of art. I had the use of one with a speech chip, it was better than the voice simulations of early Android devices. I wish I had one now although it would probably be a just a trip done memory lane XD. Where did you find such a clean device to make the video with?

Somewhere, around the perimeter of the cottage, stands an innocent looking, though possibly out of place, 16th century outhouse, that is, in fact, a cleverly disguised Chron-O-John.

@glenwaldrop8166

2 жыл бұрын

yet another TARDIS with the chameleon circuit busted...

@EverydayRetroGuy

2 жыл бұрын

And they said imitation Diamond wasn't good enough

@robertcartier5088

2 жыл бұрын

Is it bigger on the inside? ;-]

@EMarkMoore

2 жыл бұрын

As a family, we’re actually replaying DotT right now! And, Peter, many thanks for this video. Fascinating. In fact, thanks for all your hard work as usual.

@newforestpixie5297

2 жыл бұрын

Is “ Chron o John “ the correct term for those Pods which appear all over the world in the 28th Century ? Recognisable by their Entry Doors which were all sourced from 1960s Caravans and were actually mistaken to be toilets by those from 2020 ? 👍

Being able to tell what someone is typing by the sound of their keyboard is a recently demonstrated technique.

@mickeythompson9537

2 жыл бұрын

Morse operators in WW2 could identify who was sending by their keystrokes. The human brain can do incredible feats of recognition.

@Wobbothe3rd

2 жыл бұрын

@@mickeythompson9537 right but thats a LOT less advanced than actually being able to figure out what is being typed.

Yes! I'd love to see you seek out the book!

The Voice-overs in this are really good!

I have to say this sounds very in line with society of the era. My grandma in Surrey created a whole intricate story about a ghost called ‘sir rigor mortis’ that walked around the house in people’s shoes at night, and she propped them all over the house whenever we were there to put the shoes in positions that looked like they were making footsteps. She even made little comic books about him too. average 80’s citizens with futuristic and mysterious new devices like PC’s, along with a pretty big cultural affinity in the 80’s all over the world for ghosts/spiritual/psychic stuff, seems a lot like an enthusiastic English person that came up with an awesome idea for a story and tied it into the real world like my grandma did with sir rigor mortis. Plus, the other comment on this video about the possibility of it being networked would also pretty simply sum up what was happening too.

@highpath4776

2 жыл бұрын

The amount of trash paperbacks and monthly magazines in all kinds of science fiction had been around in the 50s/60s/70s and earlier decades and centuries, the problems occur when its passed off as fact.

@DigbysSignature

2 жыл бұрын

So how would you network that exact pc then?

@onesixski

2 жыл бұрын

@@DigbysSignature en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econet

Yes, Nostalgia Nerd, please go to Oxford to do more research, try to find the hidden book! A sequel to this film would be very interesting to say the least. I enjoyed the story very much.

@Pixelkip

Жыл бұрын

Lol there’s nothing to research or anything hidden cuz it doesn’t exist xD

@thealize808

Жыл бұрын

Meow

@drewberrynews3875

Жыл бұрын

It was a demon, there is no book

@esahutske

Жыл бұрын

@@drewberrynews3875 I am leaning toward that also

@robmen1402

Жыл бұрын

There is no hidden book, at all. Use your brain. He would have told them where he was going to hide it. He could have had a few copies printed and hard bound and given it to the library on top of that. But none of that was done. Because as long as this book remains a mystery and is "hidden" there will be some people that believe and that is the intention of the hoaxers.

Thank you for the tall tale that was well worth the telling.

Excellently presented mystery.

I remember this from the time. There was quite an interest back then as Hawarden is only 20 miles. Computers were new - and still creaky. Few people understood their workings, so the concept of deception was more than likely. Mind you, anyone with such an in-depth knowledge of computers back then was unlikely to have a sense of humour. It was the 'box of lights' thing that grabbed me. I suppose we all wanted it to be real.

@filminginportland1654

2 жыл бұрын

??? Computer engineers have a wicked sense of humor. Ours is darker than anyone else’s, usually, but it’s also much deeper & more a part of our daily lives than it is with most normal people. Nerds don’t grow up much. We’re still like children and we’re the ones who run your banking systems, your infrastructure, your corporate IT departments. Never forget that we love trolling people and practical jokes, and wouldn’t think anything about setting up a decades-long practical joke just so we could have a continuing inner laugh every now and then. You really think engineers didn’t have a sense of humor in the 80s???? It was much funner back then _because_ the rest of you never knew a damn thing about what we were up to. Much easier to have fun with people, without their even being aware of it. I’d put my money on Easter eggs - some engineer or group of engineers at acorn playing a practical joke on people. Or, given this unreliable narrator, they could simply be lying about enough of this that it makes no sense to even discuss it, being completely unaware of how it actually played out. For all we know, it was the wife/girlfriend simply typing them up when nobody was looking. But if that couple didn’t do it themselves, I’d look at the acorn engineers first.

@geezermann7865

2 жыл бұрын

@@filminginportland1654 Interesting, I hadn't considered a running practical joke by an IT insider. Personally, my sense of humor tends toward the South Park type. I have a cousin in Portland. I lived there many years ago when it was normal.

@JFlovesjesus

2 жыл бұрын

@@filminginportland1654 we still don’t understand their workings and need to unplug from it. I offer a persona challenge: For a half hour each day put this thing in the microwave or throw it on the front lawn but spend thirty minutes consciously to not being here. Perhaps do a puzzle, clean the kitchen, walk to the store or walk a pet, go break an old phone and put it back together and fix it. No, tablets and TV are equivalent. just simply be Elsewhere than here but make a bet against yourself (it makes it fun) and go for it. We are half way there, don’t give them the whole enchilada unless you want to of course;)

@thrillhausen8858

2 жыл бұрын

Surely would have been issued a tablet if from 2109.

@JFlovesjesus

2 жыл бұрын

@@thrillhausen8858 it’s just recommendation Lots going on outside typing here. We should explore more, I think. Good for the gizzards and brains ;) I have spent less time here and made projects for myself. It’s oddly more satisfying and then I relax and send a note here or there, here.

I'm new to researching the sceptical world and conspiracies but I absolutely love that this video is done in a way that is open minded and not biased towards a decision made prior to listening to the alleged facts of the story. Fascinating stuff

@onx9920

Жыл бұрын

The Whyfiles makes great conspiracy videos. Also skepticizes and points out inconsistencies if any

Whats most interesting for me is 1) the leyline that was running almost directly thru the cottage & 2) the paranormal activity that was happening during that period

21:08 This video is interesting and all, but I just need to mention how much I like the fact that you put a dot where the text begins after switching camera angles.