Thanks for the review. Agree on all points. They have 2 sizes, the larger is supposed to be for people taller than 175cm. The difference seems to be in the size of the gas cylinder and that's it. I'm 187cm, sat in smaller one and ordered the taller, but found it usable only in the lowest sitting position. Mesh is also hit or miss in terms of sitting comfort. Sometimes I find the right position and it's good for extended periods, other times is get pressure on thighs from the sides. My previous chair was Ikea's jarvfjallet without armrests.

Do you guys have any plans on reviewing the x1? The h1 lumbar was too aggressive to my liking and hoping the x1 is less aggressive

Very interested in a good non biased review of the newer Hinomi release the X1. So few reviews on it and really curious if it is an improvement over the h1 pro or a step backward. The lumbar support being TPU instead of mesh is unusual and not sure if that’s more or less comfortable…

I"ve had one of these for a couple of weeks...I ordered it in the Xmas sale, and for the price I paid I consider it decent value for money. The chair provides good support compared to my previous cheap old chair, but the lumbar mechanism can feel a bit too hard after an hour or so. My main reason for purchasing was being a musician I needed the flip up arms, and there doesn't seam to be too many options out there that provide this. Unlike you, I find the seat to be a bit too firm, not soft, and I don't find the frame noticeable at all. But I agree that for long periods its not that comfortable. My biggest gripe is that when I ordered there was no option to choose standard or extra tall... I think might just be sending out whatever they have in stock, which is a bit shady. Pretty sure mine is an extra tall as I'm 5'7" and can only just get my feet flat on the floor at its lowest setting. Its ok, but I would've preferred the option to go a tiny bit lower. At its full price I wouldn't have purchased it, but since I can't afford a Herman Miller or Steelcase (I don't want a used chair) it was probably a decent option for me here in the UK for me. I just hope it lasts!

I was considering the H1 classic v3 but seems almost the same chair but with out the foot rest.

The "golden" rule is that part of an one hour, has to include getting out of the chair every hour. As someone who uses the chair for 12+ hours a day, you might want to seek out health advice, because the chair doesn't hurt my ass and I don't think it should be an issue sitting for two hours unless they have health problems. If you had someone spank you before sitting down, it's hardly the chairs fault it's not entirely comfortable.

This is probably the most honest review for this chair on KZread. I've seen a few reviews from some UK KZreadrs from 3-4 years ago, and they generally had heavy praise for this chair, which felt utterly biased to me. They were also very defensive in the comments section, especially when multiple ppl pointed out issues with the chair itself. That's why I genuinely don't trust reviewers who are sponsored by the company (for which they are reviewing a product from) or if they use affiliate links without any transparency.

@MrAllthatgoodstuff

5 ай бұрын

It's obvious BTOD is also sponsored by this company. The chair is like any other chair out of China at $250-300 range.

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

​@MrAllthatgoodstuff Did you watch the entire video? I'm not defending this chair, but BTOD didn't exactly give it a glowing recommendation. I personally wouldn't recommend it to anyone, especially when there are far better mesh chairs on the market. (it seems that this sentence has offended Mike)

@MrAllthatgoodstuff

5 ай бұрын

@@StardustLegacyFighter Yes, I did. Just read the description and click on the link. BTOD has been also paid by Ticova and other brands they "suddenly" discovered.

@mikeg6069

5 ай бұрын

What I can't get a handle on from you is whether you've actually sat in/tested the chair for yourself? You've commented on what other reviewers have said and how you felt about what they said, but what do you have to say based on personal experience? You said you wouldn't recommend this chair but again, is that based on personal experience? Because I don't see how you could recommend for or against it unless you're experienced it yourself. Reviews are great. But final determination should be based on one's own experience IMO.

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

​@mikeg6069 No, I haven't used this chair before, but that doesn't mean that I don't have experience with other chairs at the same price point. As per my original comment, I stated that this chair had been reviewed by other channels, who quite frankly don't know anything about ergonomics and were literally getting paid to make a biased review. Whenever I have recommended chairs to anyone on KZread, I always advise them to try it out first (if possible) because chair comfort is highly subjective.

Has anyone made a chair that can pivot from the center and tilt from the front on the same chair? My home office is used for work and play so I need to sit up when working and I want to tilt back when watching TV. I bought an Ikea Markus as an interim solution until I find my forever chair and it does a decent job for work but is uncomfortable when reclining, especially because I slouch and have no plans to 'correct my posture'. A tilt pivot would push me back into the chair and I wouldn't feel the need to slouch forward while watching tv.

You guys have it all covered for sure...wait a minute, what about the best office chair mat for carpets? I'd love to see you guys do a review on which is the best of these - plastic, glass?

@WolfOfJustice

5 ай бұрын

I don't have carpet flooring, but it would be super useful to know which mats are the best. 😅

@DSDaddio

Ай бұрын

Ditch the mats and upgrade the wheels to the inline style

also on the colamy atlas , the tilt lever is paper thin , feel like you could break it just by using it!

When will you sell to Canada?

If it had a padded seat, I'd likely be a consideration for me. Having legs elevated is really important to me, but not at the cost of a bad mesh seat.

Can you guys add the colamy atlas to the cheat sheet I saw it wasn't on there and people might want to see where it ranks

I'm looking for a new chair to sit at my desk and I was thinking about getting the Hinomi until I saw your video on the Ergohuman 2. Which one would you recommend more? In your link the Ergohuman is listed as Raynor Ergohuman, but since I live in Poland I've only found Grospol Ergohuman 2 chairs - do you know if it's the same chair? It looks the same in all pictures, and the Elite version can have a fabric seat (insted of the mesh one) and a footrest similar to the one in the Hinomi (which I really want lol).

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

Ergohuman is definitely better.

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

The newest version, the Ergohuman Elite GEN2 is what I have been using and really enjoy -Greg

so basically a budget Ergohuman. thank you very much for the honest review.

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

Budget GEN1 ;) -Greg

@Creamworks

5 ай бұрын

@@btodtv ouch, doing them dirty 🥶

@yassinecorbinendo2266

5 ай бұрын

​@@btodtv I'm quite off topic, but I live in France, very interested with the Lamias you sell on your website, but I don't believe you ship to France do you? If not I guess I'll go withe the ergo human gen2. Also you only reviewed the mesh seat version of the ergohuman gen2, what about the padded version ?

Interesting - I was in the market for a chair with high adjustability and flippable armrests, got one on a local website (I'm based in Poland) for ~$370 and now I'm realising that this is exactly the same chair as Hinomi just branded with a different name! Apart from the lower price it also has a padded / cushion seat which, I guess, is more comfortable than a mesh seat in Hinomi. Quite happy with the purchase, especially considering the price but I agree about the armrests - wish they could be adjusted lower. Plus yeah, the leg rest prevents you from putting legs under the seat (technically you can do that, just need to spread legs wider) but the legrest itself is super comfy when you fully recline the chair and relax. Otherwise, everything is quite good - nice adjustability and quality of materials, solid build and comfort for everyday work.

@silrow3052

3 ай бұрын

Do you have a link for the model you're talking about? :)

@m-zurowski

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, share the name! I'm also from Poland and I'm interested in testing this chair :)

I purchased an Embody because of your cheat sheet but I really don't like it especially the stiff back; but this video makes me trust your review again, you share the same experience as what I had with this chair, the seat is not firm enough and all the pressure goes to my tailbone, I sat on it 2 days and returned it (btw, their customer support in Canada seems OK) The other big problem is, this brand is just a rebranded China brand. (don't know if I can post link here, but it only sells for $1199 RMB in China, equivalent to $170 USD)

@orbispictus6127

4 ай бұрын

Yes there are a lot of rebranded Chinese brands and we could find the exact same thing on a Chinese marketplace. Hinomi offering 120 euros this winter sale which is a huge joke imo.

I know Greg loves the Ergohuman Gen 2 Elite. What are you thoughts on it as a person who hates mesh chairs?

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

The Ergohuman Gen 2 Elite or the Hinomi -Greg

@sabotage3d

5 ай бұрын

@@btodtv Ryan opinion on Ergohuman Gen 2 Elite. Would be cool to see a video where more members have tried it and what tier is falls into.

Considering that some new models have been reviewed and some were even highly praised like the colamy chairs for example, you guys should consider updating the cheat sheet and adding them in

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

Agreed, we plan to update it after the next comfort tier list -Greg

I also returned the colamy atlas , seat cushion is good ,the headrest is awful at 5'9" 270 at the lowest positon will touch the top of my head . i would have to buy a large seat cushion to get it in the curve of my neck. so 5' 11" or higher might fit you right. also the armrest are a deal breaker. they will not stay in position no matter how light you touch them. i found myself constantly readjusting them which is very irritating! for a chair at any price! you can't focus on a task , instead your focus on the armrest that slide for under your arms! in one week time the mesh , had lint and lint balls everwhere! i feel like the sihoo m18 was a better chair for a 3rd of the money! it they could make the headrest go lower and make better armrest i might give it another go!

are the seat tilt and backrest recline on the same mechanism?

@damaylaphoenix1155

5 ай бұрын

no

@quatreraberbawinner2628

5 ай бұрын

@@damaylaphoenix1155 so they can be adjusted independently of each other? ( The question I should have asked)

Make a video on aftermarket headrests for the leap v2

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

There are zero we would recommend -Greg

Better arm adjustment (non fold clip), tighter mesh seat + less bucket, and if you can remove the footrest, it would be almost perfect.

@WolfOfJustice

5 ай бұрын

At that point you might as well buy the Aeron. 😂

Hi...I've been waiting for this video for a long time but now I'm kinda disappointed in Hinomi H1...so if it was up to you which one would you pick... Ergohuman GEN2 or Hinomi H1 pro v2?

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

Ergohuman GEN2 -Greg

@rezabagheri6287

5 ай бұрын

thank you@@btodtv

@rezabagheri6287

5 ай бұрын

not sure you see this comment but HInomi is going to release a model called X1...would like to hear your opinion on that too...thanks@@btodtv

This chair is quite a good competitor to the Ergotune Supreme V3 in Singapore :)

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

Not sure that's a good thing :) -Greg

@WolfOfJustice

5 ай бұрын

Probably made up of similar OEM parts.

i brought this chair on the Christmas sale for 450.00 . the Hinomi H1 v2 unboxing experience is second to none. it is the apple of the chair world. ultra high quality! i am 270 pounds 5' 9" well proportioned! the headrest is the best in the business as well as the lumbar support. the chair well flex to allow movement but solid at the same time. the reason i returned it was the seat. i guess am too big because the seat frame hurt the back of my legs. i believe it is too curved! but in the recline position , with the leg rest it is so comfortable it will put you to sleep instantly! i miss it now! if they ever make a model with a cushion seat i will buy it again! i believe if you have a slim body this chair would be perfect for you!

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

I have to disagree on the unboxing experience, as nothing quite beats what Herman Miller chairs (aside from the Vantum) have to offer. They usually come pre-assembled and roll majestically out of the box. No setup is required. 😊

@damaylaphoenix1155

5 ай бұрын

@@StardustLegacyFighter yes i am aware of how magnificent hermin millers are. the himomi is not in the same league . but for a 500 dollar it is still the best unboxing experience ive ever had! put on the wheels and base, two screws for the headrest and your done. check the unboxing video they give you a fancy box for the hex key!

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

​​​​@@damaylaphoenix1155That's true, there's a big difference in price point. Although, there are some European brands like Interstuhl and Kinnarps, which have some chairs around the same price point as Hinomi, which are either pre-assembled or have very few parts to put together. Also, their chairs are made in Europe with no use of Chinese OEM parts, except for the gas cylinder, of course.

@mikegt2

4 ай бұрын

After being on it for a few hours do you get sore? Bought a gaming chair for work and i get a super sore back and bottom. Contemplating this one but not sure yet.

@elpabar

Ай бұрын

It's really the problem you pose that's holding me back. I'm afraid that the right and left sides of the seat will bother me. I'm the same height as you, and 220 pounds. I'm really hesitating. Everything else looks good to me. Have you tried a small flat cushion to compensate?

In all the clips where you're adjusting the arms, I think you can see that your hips and thighs are almost too wide for this chair. You're quite close to resting on the plastic frame rather than on the mesh. As a person of above-average height and weight, I found the H1 Pro v2 to be much more comfortable to an Aeron size C but still not tolerable for more than a few minutes. My old generic "Staples" chair had a larger mesh seat pan. For the last few years I've been using Hon Ignition chairs which are a bit more roomy than many others. I'm still looking for a true unicorn.

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

Maybe mesh chairs aren't the right type of seating material for you? I have the Aeron remastered size C, but my experience is the exact opposite. I've had it for over a year now, and I can comfortably sit on it for many hours each day. I recommend trying out ergonomic chairs with foam padding, like the Leap v2, Amia, or Fern.

Is there something a bit off with this videos audio? Listening through headphones, each time a breath is taken, there's like a doubled breath effect that sounds like scribbling. Is it an audio or vocal effects filter? Not a complaint. Just drawing to your attention. Your vids are top notch, TY, and I only observed it on this one.

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the constructive criticism. Not everyone on YT delivers their comments so kindly. We will definitely look into this. - RG

Flip up armrests 👍

Exactly. Chair comfort is highly subjective. To recommend or not recommend a chair you have experience with is problematic for that reason. To recommend or not recommend based on KZread video reviews is even worse. Does that mean video reviews are worthless? Not at all. Things like revelation of construction quality can be important. Things like actual range of motion, operational processes, dimensions, head rest positions, etc. are very important. But to translate that into actual comfort and rare largely based on comfort, well, that's where I have a problem. I think ratings and recommendations should be based on objective measurables with commentary on personal comfort for context. Just my opinion.

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

Yes, reviews should be as objective as possible, but it also depends on the experience of the reviewer and their credibility. For example, if you're looking for a safe ways to lose weight, would you trust the opinion of a fitness influencer or a dietician? I'd take BTOD's recommendations over those other channels (that I was referring to in my original comment), because those other guys are more likely to be biased and make uninformed comments, based on being paid to say nice things by the company supplying the chair. Nothing will ever beat trying out these chairs for yourself, but it helps to know that you're getting recommendations from ppl who know what they're talking about.

@WolfOfJustice

5 ай бұрын

Why the hell did you start another thread?

Typical. You finally review a chair that's available in the UK and its 'meh' at best. Would love to see a tier list of chairs you can buy in the US AND UK (since i obvs wouldn't expect you to import UK chairs to the US for review)?

@btodtv

5 ай бұрын

We reviewed the new Ergohuman Elite GEN2 chair that should be available in your market and it is excellent :) -Greg

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

Depends on your budget, tbh. I'm also from the UK, and I do have access to most HM and Steelcase chairs, as there are several ADs and ARs across the region. Even if those chairs feel too expensive or unsuitable for your specific needs, there are some well reputable European brands like Interstuhl, HAG, Flokk and Kinnarps.

@shoutingstone

5 ай бұрын

Trying to keep my budget on the lower end since I'm unlikely to get to try before I buy, maybe £500, give it take. Something with a high back but not a fan of mesh seats. I'll take a look at those other brands you mentioned. Thanks

This is definitely the best chair in the price range

@btodtv

4 ай бұрын

Colamy Atlas -Greg

I've bought this chair and had it returned after 3.5 weeks. 1. It is literally a rebranded OEM chair that can be found on some Chinese marketplaces for around $150, so all their claims about R&D and stuff are just BS. 2. All of the adjustments were of poor quality and either didn't stay in place (headrest and armrests in particular), or were too easy to adjust (or too hard to make it stay in a certain position you want). 3. It made my back hurt. One thing that I did like was actually the mesh, it was implemented perfectly - good firmness, the frame was wide enough that it didn't bother me (except for the lumbar support, where a piece of plastic could be felt poking into my back on the lowest adjustment setting). And I also liked some gimmicky features like the leg rest and folding mechanism.

@StardustLegacyFighter

5 ай бұрын

I was literally searching for this comment, lol. Too bad this chair is overhyped on KZread and often gets spammed in the comments section of a lot of reputable chair reviewers. I wonder how good the supposed "15 years warranty" actually is. 🤔

@michaelkindman

5 ай бұрын

@@StardustLegacyFighter apparently, it only covers some parts of the frame. If I remember correctly, the gas lift only had 5 years, and the mesh was excluded altogether.

@edkk2010

5 ай бұрын

absolutely nothing proprietary about the design. just a combination of different parts.

@edkk2010

5 ай бұрын

It is weird a YT channel that reviews office chairs that would rave about an OEM chair like that.

@edkk2010

5 ай бұрын

Do you know why this is an OEM chair? Because it has a footrest. In China, most office workers would take naps during lunch break so having a footrest design is a must. Not so much in the west, at least not popular enough to put in design.

The lumbar support for this chair is too aggressive. Everyone I know who bought this chair returned it for the same reason. Even at the lowest setting. I don’t recommend it for the health of your back

@btodtv

12 күн бұрын

Yea I agree. Would be better if they started the support out a bit less and then let you dial it up. -Ryan

Hater lol