I love seeing the return of weird from Citroen... For too long they've been a bit conventional, this is what we need.

@toyotaprius79

Жыл бұрын

That's what happens when you chase what other competitors think

I absolutely love the design principles. strip out as much as you can, make it as affordable as you can, and make it fun. I'm so excited for Citroën's future

@gudfarfar

Жыл бұрын

As long as they actually make this a reality, and not just a consept car for show, it is actually a great idea. I would imagine that the asking price for that vehicle would be pleasently low, and quite manageable for the common man. Aka me. lol

@ThaCmaro

10 ай бұрын

Put this kind of design i a fun little Hatchback and im in!

Citron doing what Citroen does best, really weird quirky stuff. Stuff that you don't truly get until two decades after it's gone out of production, and then it's a total genius emerges.

It's amazing. I'm surprised no car maker has yet figured out how to make products like Ikea does, innovative light design that doesn't compromise on function.

@blueocean2510

Жыл бұрын

IKEA may do so soon.

Citroën should now put all this quirkiness of design and super light weight into an all new electric CV2 model for mass production.😊

@jumpferjoy1st

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. A reinvented "2CV" would sell hundreds of thousands and give far more people access to EV ownership.

@palkaivanov2840

Жыл бұрын

They don't have the battery volume leadership to execute on this idea.

@clives4501

Жыл бұрын

More like mass deception. Sort of like "safe and effective".

@johnbowyer6902

Жыл бұрын

@@jumpferjoy1st They could call it the CVe.?

@superuberviewer

Жыл бұрын

Yes, yes, yes!! Only thing about concept cars that I don't like is that they're almost perfect as they are. There's only one or two changes I would want from something like this as is.

The biggest thing that bugs me with most new cars is the width. They are all starting to push 1.9 m. In small roads and tight city spaces, the width is much more of an issue than length or height.

@MrAdopado

Жыл бұрын

I agree wholeheartedly. I am fed up of having to squeeze past other huge vehicles. This thing is wider than a BMW 3 series or a Tesla Model 3.

@yips_way

Жыл бұрын

Agree - my "small" car that I use as a daily runabout is 1894mm wide, my sports car which is 800mm longer is only 1770mm wide. Both 4 seaters. Weird that the small car is much smaller in all categories except width.

@thechumpsbeendumped.7797

Жыл бұрын

That vertical windscreen is just perfectly angled for getting stone chips. Nothing will be a glancing blow.

@thechumpsbeendumped.7797

Жыл бұрын

They’re claiming 6mi/kWh but don’t say at what speed.

@jackandblaze5956

Жыл бұрын

They've basically made a 1966 VW bug, only worse and from cardboard. Same weight, length, width, same flat windshield. The Bug required 8 hp to maintain 100 kph on level ground and could climb a 45° angle slope. The Ghia required 6 HP at 100 kph. Does it float? Bugs did. Seats are cool. They'd make a Bug weigh less.

My first car was a 2CV. This feels like a proper spiritual successor. Please Citroën, just make it!

@rossr6616

Жыл бұрын

e-Chevaux! eCV

This looks like an SUV and I was about to turn away from this video, but when Jack exaplained that this car attempts at fixing the problems and told about the weight (a tonne?!) I was pleasantly surprised and watched the whole thing with hope for future mass production cars to follow this example. Please, show us more cars like this. Thank you.

A weirdly delicious combo of style, practical engineering and fun. I like it a lot!

@Narinjas

Жыл бұрын

Same vehicle but with AWD (Back motors optimised for low speed torque, and front motors optimised for cruising speed of 50-62 Mph (80-100 Km/h) with Electric Blue instead of fiery Red accents and i am sold. (Red is a bit too anxiety inducing for me) (Also extended warranty to 5 years for the entire car and up to 10 years for the battery, drive system (including suspension), steering system, and i just hope that we can get 50% price reduction for 20 years after warranty on the recyclable panels for self damage from condensation or regular use compromisation of materials, and I am sold.

@PaulHo

Жыл бұрын

The car, too!

@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi

Жыл бұрын

Its an fj cruiser. only too small.

We already knew how to make a cheap affordable practical car it's called a hatchback, we don't have to re-invent the car. We just have to look backwards and make it sustainable, and cheap not what EV's companies think is cheap, actually cheap like back then.

@AYoutubeAccountName

Жыл бұрын

A fairly normal electric hot hatch is all I want. Why must everything be an SUV like?

@jonsykes8780

Жыл бұрын

​@@AKZreadAccountName not everything, but some of us have a use for a SUV. Two adults, three kids, two dogs, 4 bicycles on the roof and a caravan. Do that in a hot hatch. And yes, we have a small cheap ev for the quick short day to day journeys.

@larrywave

Жыл бұрын

​@@jonsykes8780 Station wagon

@zawatowski

Жыл бұрын

​@@jonsykes8780 I think you need an MPV. Not an SUV. Form follows function.

@udishomer5852

Жыл бұрын

@@jonsykes8780 You represent a tiny minority in the US, Europe, Japan, China, etc. 9% of US households are five people or more. 6% of EU households are five people or more. Its probably even lower in China or Japan.

This is exactly the sort of car Citroen should be making. Love it

I cannot stress enough how much I want this to happen. It’d be my first new car, first ev, but i would by it, drive it and love it instantly. Damn!

5:03 depends on what you want. if you want something that is efficient at highway speed then aerodynamics matter alot. if you want something for slower speed like city driving them weight matters alot.

@nebulous962

Жыл бұрын

i am very sure tesla is much more efficient at highway speed than this even if they weight more.

@Zarphag

Жыл бұрын

This is efficient where no one needs it to be efficient.

@xiaoka

Жыл бұрын

@@Zarphag operating cost is operating cost.

@g1nk0

Жыл бұрын

Highways are dumb, so who cares?

@David34981

Жыл бұрын

@@g1nk0 Yeah those dumb highways, am I right?...

Love it. Building on Citroen's heritage of bold and unusual design. I remember marvelling at the Citroen DS as a child.

@gritnltw

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but DS was a production car. This is a "vision" aka out-of-reality object.

@petergorton9848

Жыл бұрын

an electric DS would be wonderful - addressing a different problem from Oli.

From the immense positive reaction it received in France, I wouldn't dismiss the idea that Citroën is working on a production version of the OLI. One of the main concerns I heard was about the hygiene of the seats when you imagine long hairs entangled in the honeycombs, thus they would be covered with a light fabric.

Absolutely fantastic. As the great Colin Chapman said “simplify then add lightness” and that’s exactly what Citroen are doing. Really hope they make this car.

One Ton. My first car, a 1985 VW Polo weighed 700kg. I like the fact that the Oli looks like a toy US Army Hummer.

@storm4710

Жыл бұрын

For a bev(Oli) it is very light

@ExcaliburPaladin

Жыл бұрын

True, but did your polo have esp and all those safety systems plus crumple zones? Also this Citroen is pretty big, they wanted to show how much of room and features they can squish in 1t limit so it's not exactly they wanted to make smallest and lightest car. My bike weights less too

@GabrieleBonetti

Жыл бұрын

Did not have batteries that are most of the weight.

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

Жыл бұрын

I had a 1980 something Peugeot 205 diesel that was I believe 850 kg so the petrol version would have been lighter, great car to drive and own but nowhere near as safe as a modern car.

@frijevc

Жыл бұрын

@@ExcaliburPaladin Did your Polo even had speed 0-100km/h and was big as this?

Love the design and idea, would like to see more of those in the future. What more do we actually really need?

@clives4501

Жыл бұрын

Luca, I'm guessing you're a 15 year old school girl. No offence intended.

@xiaoka

Жыл бұрын

A trunk.

@robinbennett5994

Жыл бұрын

It's worth noting that some of the most loved cars ever were the smaller, lighter, cheaper ones - the 2CV, mini, beetle and fiat 500.

@JohnnyZenith

Жыл бұрын

Good losing bits in the seats and getting it all dirty.

@dracodominus2800

Жыл бұрын

​@@xiaokalike an elephant?

Citroen seems to be the only OEM that can get away with stuff like this so there is a fair chance something like it will happen. I think it will selll too, in modest numbers, to a certain customer. I think the flat windscreen has to go though, even if an angled screen weighs a bit more and costs a bit more the improvement in efficiency will more than cover the cost over the lifetime of the vehicle I suspect. Good work Citroen 😊

@genephipps6421

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention rock deflection. Flat glass is a big no no for a REASON...

@Park2King

Жыл бұрын

If I liked absolutely nothing else on the Oli, I would be sold by the completely flat windscreen which means cleaning away the haze that accumulates on the inside would be so easy! Imagine the difficulty cleaning your current vehicle's "stylishly raked" windscreen which involves all sorts of contortions which is why it rarely gets done. So, you put up with haze obscuring your vision driving into the sun or at night when an approaching car's headlamps are blinding you. As for rock deflection, if a rock is headed your way it's going to do damage to any windscreen.

@Validole

Жыл бұрын

@@Park2King haze? Clean it once, thoroughly, and then never touch it (use defogging heater, if there's condensation) and there should be no haze.

@robertholland1664

Жыл бұрын

@@Validole Haze comes from decaying polymers in the dashboard, so there is no avoiding it.

@jovanleon7

Жыл бұрын

​@@genephipps6421 they need to just angle it ever so slightly so it could still maintain that unique look. I love it

Just a thought about seats. I have a fairly expensive office chair that is built in a similar manner. The chair is brilliant and light, and very comfortable. It is perfect in summer as your important parts will not sweat. In winter it needs to be upgraded with some cushioning because it gets too breezy. I still love it though.

Love this, what a great concept. Would buy in a heartbeat. Great video. 3:30 40kWh battery: 250 miles=402km | 6m/kWh = 9.67 km/kWh or 10.34 kWh/100km

@Secretlyanothername

Жыл бұрын

Did the math in my head and came to post. Around 10kWh/100km, or about 30% more efficient than a Model 3. Impressive, but not incredible (and that's okay).

@davidf2281

Жыл бұрын

I'd be willing to bet that 250-mile figure is at a substantially lower speed than an official WLTP figure. It's a concept car; they're not selling it so they can fudge the numbers however they like.

@thorwaldjohanson2526

Жыл бұрын

Low weight is king for city driving, but for highway and long distance driving, aerodynamics is what matters.

Man I wish this thing became a reality. It looks so damn cool and the ideas behind it are fantastic! 1ton is actually quite impressive for an ev. I'm still wondering what a mg4 looks like though.. should have chosen something maybe even more obscure to compare it to constantly 😉

@clives4501

Жыл бұрын

You've hit the nail on the head "for an ev". That says it all - by any metric EV's make no sense.

@deltajohnny

Жыл бұрын

Yes he could have conpared it to a VW Golf, for instance! 😉😉😉

@ledsalesoz

Жыл бұрын

@@clives4501 That's a pretty stupid comment. I just put 200km back in my EV by charging at home, it cost me $8. How much would your gas guzzler cost for that distance? How about servicing? My EV's service cost $80 because there was nothing to do (they did a pickup, drop-off and tyre rotation for that money). Honestly, you shouldn't make comments about things you know nothing about.

@clives4501

Жыл бұрын

@@ledsalesoz Somewhat insulting Mr T but I'll look past that. You assume I know nothing and I have no wish to convince you otherwise. If you are happy with your e.v. (for whatever reasons) relax. Enjoy what you have and the decisions you have made.

@ShazeeraTV

Жыл бұрын

@@clives4501 so no arguments? Sad.

This car is beating everything out there in terms of vision! I would buy this car as is without thinking twice.

I want cars like this on the road! The interior is also a nice mix of the 70s and 80s. I love it!

Briliant. Citroën has always been ahead of the game, Shame we don't get them in Canada

@richardnedbalek1968

Жыл бұрын

…nor in the US. 😔

@anemeth9281

Жыл бұрын

Try to grey import one!

@andrzejwrzesz

Жыл бұрын

Shame their cars are single use:)

@AdolfRizzler41

Жыл бұрын

Indians are using these type of cars years ago how Citroen is ahead of game💀

I so would buy an Oli if it was available. Makes so much sense.

I love it. I owned a Citroen years ago and was always impressed with it. Currently I own a Peugeot but I would definitely buy this car if it ever came to production. The only thing I would change, is make the windscreen at least a bit angled. Citroen have gone for the Humvee look. I love how bold it is. Citroen have always been different and innovative.

I’m a big fan of “Me and Mon Ami’ KZread channel (2 Brits who live in France travelling around in their Citroen Ami). Citroen designers think outside of the box and can make amazing looking cars when they decide to make the effort. Why oh why do these cars have to remain as concept cars? These would fly out of the showroom. I would buy one!

I love the Lego piece construction idea. I'm not sure about the longevity of the interior, but hopefully Citroen will have the option to cheaply swap it out for a new one when it gets a bit manky.

@streetwind.

Жыл бұрын

I would imagine a production version would have cloth covers over the seats and such. The honeycomb plastic structure is interesting from an engineering perspective, but not something the average joe wants to see day-in, day out. And really hard to clean. A removable, washable cover is the prefect solution.

@TravThompson

Жыл бұрын

This is so key, if, for example, the stylophone console takes a ding...if it is cheap to replace, who cares. The issue with cars now is a ding in the quarter panel is a multi-day and multi-thousand dollar repair. If I could order some doors off Amazon...boom. If I can fix my own car again....that is a game changer for a brand like this.

I love it, if the AMI only had a higher top speed I would have one of those already, I love that they are daring to do things differently!

@iseeyourschwarz8973

Жыл бұрын

they can't sadly. has to fit within French quadricycle rules - top speeds limited as you can drive an Ami without a licence in france. pretty sure it would be as easy to hack as an e-bike or scooter though ;)

@GudieveNing

Жыл бұрын

Someone has an Ami in my home town. It whizzes about pretty quickly! With our traffic and average speed limits today, it's not as if we can do over 50 very often.

@iantear2271

Жыл бұрын

@@GudieveNing They look great, but top speed is 28mph! If they would do 40mph I would get one.

@mynewschannel3100

Жыл бұрын

@@iseeyourschwarz8973 Actually, they can. Renault did it with the Twizy they do the 40 (for the unlicenced) and the 80 (for the licensed)

@Hayles6677

Жыл бұрын

@@iantear2271 there is a fix out there now. You need to look it up.

American here. I would love to have this little car! I’m sure that it isn’t as comfortable as my big, fully loaded Outback for road trips, but I could scoot around town during the week and take it to the lake on the weekend for fun in the sun activities. Citroen is on to something here. 😊

Fascinating video - looking forward to your full test drive of a production version.

Just Citroen doing Citroen things and I’m all for it. I think it looks a bit stupid, but I love the fun element. As for making other car makers look silly, we’ll in Citroen’s press release, I saw somewhere them, basically actively shaming them and their luxury EVs that don’t do enough to be in line with sustainability, already. That tells me they really are dead serious about this new direction. So yes please!

@examinerian

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that "2.5 tonne palaces" bit Jack quotes is straight out of Citroen's promo blurb for this car. Anyone from Audi/Merc/BMW et al need any after-sun cream from that burn...?! 🤣

Instantiating the fundamental Citroen Principle dating back to horses and buggies: Cars are weird, so cars ought to look weird.

@andymccabe6712

Жыл бұрын

Er .....I don't think that's a word....is it .!?!? ....not on my planet, anyhow!

@pgpete

Жыл бұрын

@@andymccabe6712 its in the dictionary

@youxkio

Жыл бұрын

yes like the Citroën Méhari

@henryandrews2011

Жыл бұрын

@@pgpete so it is! (Horrid!)

@uTPH1

Жыл бұрын

Loved all mine!

Awesome looking car. I have an Toyota FJ and love the styling, reminds me a lot of this. Can’t imagine the noise on the freeway with that windscreen, or how it would deal with rain. But hey all you need to do is cant that front glass and it would improve. It’s like a mini for our time, rather than the retro catastrophe of the beetle and mini. Nice concept

I would have one of those in a heartbeat simply because it is different from the norm as well as being clever and versatile. Citroen going back to their innovative roots! Bravo!!

Seems like a sensible minimalist city car that can occasionally venture as far as the next charging station. Too bad they don’t sell the brand in North America anymore. I’m sure there’s a market on the west coast, if a limited one

This needs to go into production. Just need to add safety features. 😊

6:59 loving that throwback to older Citroën speedos

Brilliant!! I want one. So good to see Citroen getting back to innovative design and taking a sideways look a car design.

Love this- - -the Citroen-Lego love-child! However, a great, innovative concept, and I, and many others would seriously consider this as an idea that makes a lot of sense.

This is very reminiscent of the original (1979) Fiat Panda - minimalist, simple, sparse - in a word, perfect!

So many great ideas… Super interesting and well presented video… Go, Citroên, go 🙏

really hope the production version looks like this. great concept

Looks like a tiny Hummer. I like it.

Love the low curb weight! More of this please!

@zen1647

Жыл бұрын

Joystick on the steering wheel is also 100% better than a touch screen for a car.

This is the Honda Element successor we have all been waiting for. Let's hope something actually like this comes to market!

I want one ! Please push this lovely oddity to production, alas something different, not boring, innovative.

I'm not sold on the flat front window (lighter vehicles don't mean to get to ignore aerodynamics), but I love the form factor overall. It reminds me of the Honda Element...on drugs. Lots of cool ideas. I love the seat concept most of all.

@cosmic_cupcake

Жыл бұрын

pretty sure the flat front window is just a stunt to make it look more like the Humvee, which this car is apparently copying. If they were serious about reducing cost and weight with flat panels, they probably wouldn't have used these weirdly curved side windows which Jack dutifully ignored.

@asharak84

Жыл бұрын

I miss normal seats. Why does a Tesla model 3 only come with electric seats which weigh loads? They're no more comfortable than the seats from my 2001 Corsa. I'm picking on Tesla because I have one but the same is true of basically all manufacturers. Seats are an obvious area where needless weight gets added, but there are tons of them.

@Solotocius

Жыл бұрын

FYI, there are air vents between the DRLs directing the air to the back of the car, at least somewhat fixing the aerodynamic problem

I love this so much. I really hope they make this or something quite similar. It would sell well in lots of markets!

I really want to see more cars like this

Great video; you've highlighted so much more about this wonderful piece of design than have any of the established magazines, especially regarding that fabulous interior. I hope all of it and that colour make production asap. Incidentally, the door pockets remind me of those on early classic Minis. I also share your sentiments on the suicide doors - how often do they appear on concepts, never to be seen in production?

Would've loved to see how they managed security, airbags, belts (saw these, didn't see how secure they fit), etc

@TiagoMorbusSa

Жыл бұрын

They probably didn't, this is a concept, it's not road legal.

@Inim7711

Жыл бұрын

Forget it, its too expensive, Green Deal first. Just be more careful in this car. 😉

@jonsykes8780

Жыл бұрын

That's where concepts fail in the real world. Without autonomous braking, lane keep assist, cameras, auto cruise control, airbags etc this car would get a terrible Euro ncap score and get vilified. Safety tech adds weight. Those doors would fail side impact tests, there's no room for curtain airbags. Probably why the Ami doesn't even have a Euro ncap rating. If I have a choice of 2 cars, one is lightweight, efficient and cheap the other is heavier, less efficient and more expensive, but means my kids have a better chance of surviving being t-boned by another car, I know where my money will go.

@TiagoMorbusSa

Жыл бұрын

@@jonsykes8780 if they're concepts, they're not in the real world, by definition

@Rafaelinux

Жыл бұрын

@@TiagoMorbusSa a concept car that doesn't have security as one of its design pillars is destined to fail for the mainstream

I love this car. It would be great to have in Hawaii.

Love it! My dad's first car was a Citroen GS so always had an affinity with the brand, despite their dodgy years a couple of decades ago. I'd happily drive that. Also love the absence of touch screens. So much prefer buttons that you don't need to take yours eyes of the road and just have a feel about and a small screen close to your line of sight. And on top of that I can pronounce Citroen properly, not citron.

Love the styling and the ethos behind it. Also enjoying the comments, having seen Top Gear take it to the streets in Birmingham 😎 Aero isn't massively critical until you get somewhere around 60 and the top speed of this is limited not much above that. Hopefully Citroen have regained their lost quirkiness

@MrAdopado

Жыл бұрын

But remember where you are driving when you are likely to be pushing the range envelope ... yes, on a motorway at 70mph. Range in city driving already isn't an issue even for the current crop of EVs. People aren't struggling for range driving around the city. Lightness is good nevertheless but let's not forget that cars need to be efficient at 70mph.

Citroen and the French auto industry return to the best of their innovative thinking.

It's like the European version of the humvee, with everything done right. Great car citron

That is actually cool :) I mean, Citroën knows how to make light and fun cars, just look at the decades-long production of the 2CV :D

Cool concept. Toyota and Honda should watch this video. Looks like they took a LOT of inspiration from the Toyota FJ and Honda Element. I'm shocked you didn't mention those cars;)

It's a modern day deux chevaux, which makes it tre cool 👍😁

@GudieveNing

Жыл бұрын

Oui oui

Citroen, always the innovators.

This has everything I look for in a vehicle: 1- Practicality 2- Comfort 3- Simplicity Please Citroen, make this thing now, as is. On a side note, because of the weight and electrical propulsion system, this thing would probably be quite nippy. Not sporty, but perky.

Want one! That would be my first Citroen. Amazing idea to turn the hatch in to a mini pickup truck body for those odd times when it doesn't fit in the car.

I would definitely buy this as my next car after my eC4 - everything a couple of pensioners could need, and it's FUN!

I was looking at the new BMW iX yesterday parked outside a big Church. It really looked like a modern medieval witch carriage. Simply horrendous.

@victorghioca5435

Жыл бұрын

Haha, nice comparison.

Ingenious! Most of these "clever ideas" were on the original Mini . Here it's being sold as amazing new concepts. How do weld or restore the shape of "cardboard" if you have a bump/collision? Answer: back to the factory for a partial rebuild. Brilliant.

It's totally OTT, ... except that it's NOT! What initially looks like a kid designer's first brush with magic mushrooms actually turns out to be as sensible as it gets. If this minimalist's dream machine is anything to go by, Citroën's fearless featherweights are about to punch their merry way from the brink right back into the very centre of the rink. I love it!

I love it! This is an "SUV" I can get behind!!!

I love it and to describe myself as disappointed when you said concept would be an understatement! 😡

@Vaasref

Жыл бұрын

There is talk about selling it 25k euros.

Some very nice ideas there, but I'm not a fan of the flat windscreen, but I could knock up a perspex, polycarbonate (or polythene!) canopy to complete the flowline from the bonnet. Doesn't matter how light it is, aerodynamics is very important!

Brilliant. Seats look difficult to clean. Maybe make them very easily removable for hosing down. A flat screen must be much cheaper to make. Love the enthusiasm of the presenter.

I mean I want it.. But yet again it's a 1 of a kind prototype that's just never happening and we are all sadder having been shown it

I would buy this in a heartbeat if I could get one in the US.

@blueocean2510

Жыл бұрын

Why not build in the US or similar. Make the US great.

This is so very Citroen. My old BX19 was pretty conservative next to a DS or CX, but it still had great design and a willingness to rethink aspects of the car. One of the best cars I've ever owned.

@Chalto

Жыл бұрын

My fave car I've owned yet was my 1st gen BX19 GTi 16v. It weighed just over a ton, and made almost 180BHP (with a full Scorpion stainless exhaust & K&N filter kit), and there wasn't anything GTi-like it couldn't either keep up with or beat. 0-60mph was around 6.2sec (2nd gear), with 140+ top end. I upgraded the brakes, also added a set of Pug 209 GTi wheels, had them refurbed and polished, then shod them with very sticky Toyo tyres, lowered it, and it cornered like it was on rails. I did get a newer model later, but they made it slower, as it needed 3rd gear to hit 60mph, so it wasn't as much fun and I sorely regretted selling my first BX.

This is brilliant. Finally some real innovation!

Really love the concept of light weight and fuel efficiency car. It’s vulnerable from other heavier and faster cars on the road though 😢

@joelsmith4394

Жыл бұрын

That’s a notion that legacy auto manufacturers have been, and will keep pushing, for sure.

@Markle2k

Жыл бұрын

With those doors, I wouldn't want to get T-boned by even another of one of these. No evidence of side-intrusion prevention

@examinerian

Жыл бұрын

@@Markle2k It's not impossible to add - look at how Aptera is doing it in their lightweight doors (I'd post a link to their videos, but since YT would then delete the comment you'll just have to search for them if you are interested!).

@jovanleon7

Жыл бұрын

You're planning to ram it into one of those cars?

@Markle2k

Жыл бұрын

@@examinerian KZread usually only removes external links. Aside from that, you could post the video ID, the part after “watch?”

Interesting concept. I would be interested in hearing about considerations of pedestrian safety with that front and windscreen.

@gritnltw

Жыл бұрын

Who cares about people. It is GREEN and EFFICIENT, it saves the PLANET! (thumbs up by the way for your comment)

@Hubris2

Жыл бұрын

Agreed - safety in general. I absolutely love the idea of 'adding lightness' to cars - but while there was much talk about how much lighter coated cardboard is compared to steel - everybody will have been envisioning the structural cardboard protecting their family. I'm not saying it isn't safe - but don't specifically exclude those discussions. If you say cardboard is lighter than steel - finish the sentence by comparing the stiffness and strength.

@petermcilroy1176

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. I would also like to see how it stands up in crash testing

I was initially aghast by that front windscreen, then I heard 6.2 miles per kwh and remembered that the back can matter more than the front for aero efficiency? Also cheaper to replace? What a win! Although I wonder if there were a middle ground and that was done for shock value?

Finally someone is listening - not everything in an EV needs to be powered! Also, despite the flatness, looks better than the Cybertruck. My main concerns is the durability of the Styrofoam-like interior, and the cardboard in the panels - what happens if the outer fiberglass is punctured and moisture gets in? How long is the vehicle expected to last? What would the safety rating be?

I really like this immense quirkiness and playfulness. If they can make them they will sell.

I would love to see a test with a high weight vs low weight car. Same chassis, just change the weight. My experience is that weight is much less of a factor than people think, certainly at highway speeds.

@logicalChimp

Жыл бұрын

Weight (mass) is a factor when changing speeds (ie it's the primary impact on efficiency in stop-start traffic) - as you say, it's less of a factor once at a constant speed. However, how often do you actually get to stay at the same speed, even on the motorway? I do think that a few tweaks (e.g. sloped windscreen) might help with the aero-efficiency on the motorway, but for most people, the weight-reduction will have a bigger impact on day-to-day efficiency, which results in less charging (and lower 'fuel' costs, etc)

@Validole

Жыл бұрын

You'd be surprised. A car with a drag coefficient of 0.29 (Opel Vectra) is spending about as much energy on rolling resistance as on air resistance at 100 km/h (62 mph). The difference is that at walking speed the rolling resistance is still about 2/3 of what it is at 100km/h, while wind resistance is basically nil. And rolling resistance grows essentially linearily with weight. So a 1000kg car has half the rolling resistance of a 2000kg car always Meanwhile, at speed the 1000 kg is probably a bit smaller than a 2000 kg car (smaller cross sectional area) but also probably boxier and thus has a higher air drag coefficient (still have to fit 4 people, unless you're Aptera). Think of it this way: two cars, both travelling slow (negligible air resistance), when allowed to coast with the gearbox disengaged, on flat land, will coast about the same distance. But if one is half the weight of the other one, that means it had half the initial kinetic energy. That means the rolling resistance had to be half that of the bigger car, otherwise it would have decelerate faster.

Auto journalism at its finest. I look forward to your unique delivery and point of view.. Audi, BMW, Chery, Chevy, Ford, Geely, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Subaru, Toyota take note of this Citroen Olie concept it is very forward thinking and interesting! I’d buy one.

Impressed and blown away by this lil thing!!!

_Cries in American_

looks like made out of legos and im in for that!

@kesgreen4639

Жыл бұрын

The plural of Lego is just Lego.

I genuinely do not know why Citroen are holding back with the Oli..I would buy one in an instant ! RIGHT NOW !! Though the very handsome Jack could sell me snow ;)

Could please translate the efficiency into units that makes sense to most of the world..... either Wh/km or kWh/100km would be nice. Please?

@udishomer5852

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, need to stop with this weird "mile" thing, its only used in the US of A.

@onefiniteplanet

Жыл бұрын

@@udishomer5852 They use "miles" in Scandinavia too...but their "miles" are different ... and everywhere miles are calcuated from metric standards anyway

@kesgreen4639

Жыл бұрын

​@@udishomer5852 and the UK

It looks like a LEGO build..

I was highly sceptical from the start but I am won over by the end. This thing has some very clever tricks.

Out of all car companies, Citroen probably has the highest weed consumtion.

The first mod I can see everyone doing is adding a deflector on the hood to direct air over the windshield for better aerodynamics.

@DetroitMicroSound

Жыл бұрын

If you look at it in a wind tunnel, I bet an air pocket forms at a certain speed.

@examinerian

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that what the built-in air deflectors from the headlamp channels already do...? I'd like to see some CFD or wind-tunnel results to saee how well they work!

Apart from the windscreen I find it fascinating design a head turner and for all the right reasons, and if they can manufacturer it for under 15k and it has bidirectional charging and I mean real bidirectional like the Leaf, I am up for one!

@franciscouderq1100

7 ай бұрын

Will be more like € 20K

Looks fab!! Although I can’t see being very quiet as no insulation at all….

This is very interesting, I'm excited about the future of this. Go Citroën ❤

The design is the single best thing about this vehicle ! It's the first cheap EV that Men don't feel ashamed to drive 👍😆 Please please build it !

I've driven/owned 2CV's since I bought my first one in 1973 .....I could take to owning one of these too.

This is the best new car design I’ve seen in a very long time.

Love it. Even more for Citroën as a brand, which has been wandering in the desert for decades, than just the particular car. Doing things really differently at a reasonable price, that is what they should be about. Only thing weird about the concept is that you can't use your phone screen for navigation and music, which is the first cost cutting measure that comes to mind when thinking how to make modern cars more affordable.

@logicalChimp

Жыл бұрын

That phone-slot is pure concept, and would never make it into a production vehicle, because it's so model-specific (and doesn't support the various cases people use, etc)... so yeah - the production model would probably have a cradle, or at least a mount for one.

„Weight is more important than aerodynamics“ pretty much sums up the quality and seriousness of this channel.