This Locomotive Can't Climb The Grade! Something Is Broken?

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In the last video, ELS 503 was having issues already so it wasn't much of a surprise to see the same issue happening again coming north but with far less of a load.. They had to stop and back up to get enough speed to make a small grade, then FAILED to leave Iron Mountain...
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  • @beerancher3225
    @beerancher32252 күн бұрын

    The owner of that track doesn't spend any time or money on maintenance .

  • @clarklindquist8137
    @clarklindquist81374 күн бұрын

    The Cumberland mine railroad is a fine example of what happens when you start spending money on maintenance. This railroad can take a page out of that and do likewise

  • @haworthlowell805
    @haworthlowell8054 күн бұрын

    Seems like they have the same 'maintenance' program for their engines as they do their tracks; 'If it's not broke don't fix it!'

  • @user-lk2yr7zg1e
    @user-lk2yr7zg1e4 күн бұрын

    Get rid of the grass and there wont be any problems. EL&S is cheap not to spray there right-away, you either pay for spray or pay for fuel!!!

  • @sammisworkshops3762
    @sammisworkshops37623 күн бұрын

    Lovely old cemetery. nicely maintained. love the trains along side too

  • @paulpuglia8480
    @paulpuglia84805 күн бұрын

    Hello Jason, I'm in Iron Mountain all week. I'm from Rochester Hills Michigan. I hope to meet you. I enjoy your videos and your parrots. Congratulations on your 10000.

  • @jasonasselin

    @jasonasselin

    5 күн бұрын

    Very cool! I'll be back Tuesday.. ha ha

  • @rds2821
    @rds28212 күн бұрын

    The owners of this railroad have been neglecting the track and equipment for years. Every time I go up there, it looks worse and worse.

  • @ginafleener3962
    @ginafleener39624 күн бұрын

    Love to count cars and see multiple variations of cargo😊

  • @nmccw3245
    @nmccw32454 күн бұрын

    Thanks for taking a puddle splash for us Jason. 👍🏻

  • @dkillalegend
    @dkillalegend4 күн бұрын

    That locomotive IS LEANING!

  • @RealMelodyBlue
    @RealMelodyBlue4 күн бұрын

    Gosh I love hearing those turbos ❤

  • @JawTooth
    @JawTooth4 күн бұрын

    That was awesome 😊🎉

  • @EricArmstrong-vo6dp
    @EricArmstrong-vo6dp4 күн бұрын

    No sand and wet vegetation means a lot of slipping.

  • @n5ifi
    @n5ifi3 күн бұрын

    That's a 3 or 4 engine train for an Alco. WET, Wheel slip. That's all it is. I've seen the dop the cars and go up the tracks with the engine and sand everything. They may have no sand either.

  • @SlapthePissouttayew

    @SlapthePissouttayew

    3 күн бұрын

    Or the sanders are clogged. Had that happen more than once.

  • @Carolb66
    @Carolb664 күн бұрын

    Sounds like my vacuum cleaner😮 its not peaceful for the residents of the graveyard!

  • @clarklindquist8137
    @clarklindquist81374 күн бұрын

    Happy Sunday Jason God bless

  • @ICUNA22
    @ICUNA224 күн бұрын

    Wet rail, rail with grass on it, tree sap, and or no sand (improperly serviced).

  • @barrywilliams991
    @barrywilliams9914 күн бұрын

    They'll spend hours trying to drag too much train instead of dragging it in two parts. What is the grade there?

  • @SleeTheSloth
    @SleeTheSloth3 күн бұрын

    Wet rails make a big diff.

  • @user-iu5wf9yj9w
    @user-iu5wf9yj9w4 күн бұрын

    I think he backed up to sand the rails. We did that a lot on the ACR.

  • @richardhunn4298
    @richardhunn42984 күн бұрын

    We see this on Tehachapi, that's an RBD train ie "runs better downhill".

  • @stevetroutman7787
    @stevetroutman77874 күн бұрын

    Hi Jason, I enjoy your videos. I notice an LP SmartSide ad at the beginning of this one 😂😂. People are watching!!

  • @kittty2005
    @kittty20054 күн бұрын

    Moisture on the rails, wheel slippage, mite be out of sand and MOW crew needs to cut grass between rails, if the wheels slip badly they leave blue streaks on the rails and make a high pitch whistle or squeal. there hows that?

  • @JohnnyFast11

    @JohnnyFast11

    4 күн бұрын

    Yeah seems like someone forgot to fill the sander

  • @barrywilliams991
    @barrywilliams9914 күн бұрын

    Well, your long journey to 100k is finally complete and you get your silver play button!

  • @rc391995
    @rc3919954 күн бұрын

    Wet rail and no sand .

  • @josephsimmer9267
    @josephsimmer92674 күн бұрын

    ELS seems to have a bad habit of running their locomotives into the ground. If ELS is so short of motive power, maybe they should take a page out of the Lake State Railway's playbook down on the Alpena branch in lower Michigan, where the LSRC use road slugs with traction motors that draw power from a locomotive's prime mover to provide additional tractive effort to haul heavy trains loaded with aggregate, gypsum or cement products. ELS has plenty of mothballed locomotives stored at their Wells facility that might be suitable for conversion to road slugs-- might as well make do with what they have on hand if they don't want to spend more to lease more locomotives.

  • @johnd4101

    @johnd4101

    3 күн бұрын

    Bad track, rainy day, overload for one 3,000HP older diesel electric loco. ELS modus operandi, eh?

  • @DavidScott-ij2ef
    @DavidScott-ij2ef4 күн бұрын

    I'm all set with a bucket of popcorn.This is going to be interesting.

  • @davidbunker6115
    @davidbunker61153 күн бұрын

    it looks like they are out of sand on a slick track

  • @rompinroger9614
    @rompinroger96144 күн бұрын

    That seems to be a very nice cemetery, it looks like everyone’s dieing to get in there. Congrats on the 100000 subs Jason.

  • @Carolb66

    @Carolb66

    4 күн бұрын

    It's dying! 😂👍

  • @paulsmith5398
    @paulsmith53984 күн бұрын

    OH, WOW! Seems like a huge electrical issue, alternator/generator/traction motors, maybe even a turbo issue. And no power up north to bail them out🤔❔ What a sorry state of a railroad 🤔☹😤😢😭😵😨😱❗

  • @Rfinerd
    @Rfinerd4 күн бұрын

    When they were trying to push the loads yesterday that would be the same direction the engine would be running as it is now. Looks like the problem is more than the sand. Maybe traction motor(s).

  • @charlesbennett8700
    @charlesbennett87004 күн бұрын

    Definitely something is wrong with 503, maybe a traction motor is bad or something else electrical with it. Obviously the diesel is running okay. Could it be that the generator is going bad?

  • @billxam2674
    @billxam26744 күн бұрын

    There sure is something wrong with the engine. Sounds like a bad turbo.

  • @arlenesobhani8739
    @arlenesobhani87394 күн бұрын

    Engine sounds like a vacuum cleaner.

  • @williamralph5442
    @williamralph54424 күн бұрын

    Sounds like a burned out traction motor. Thanks Jason

  • @robertoja9680

    @robertoja9680

    4 күн бұрын

    @@williamralph5442 if a traction motor goes out on a EMD locomotive say on this SD40 all three axles in the truck go down. So the locomotive only has half the tractive effort..On a GE Locomotive one traction motor goes out the other two in the three axle truck still work so you still have almost all the tractive effort

  • @mshum538

    @mshum538

    4 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@robertoja9680Not true, only two are cut out when a fault occurs …1 is connected to 4 -2 is connected to 5- 3 is connected to 6 … so what you witnessed here was a loss of adhesion due to the rear sandbox being depleted of sand… clearly a maintenance issue …. ms~~~

  • @chuxproductions1090
    @chuxproductions10904 күн бұрын

    Definitely something is wrong with the locomotive and still notched up!!! Sad to see them with so few locomotives and struggling with another locomotive! Seems like they are shutting the Locomotive off and leaving town! Thanks for the coverage! Safe travels to Iowa🙏🤲

  • @haroldreardon8070
    @haroldreardon80703 күн бұрын

    If the unit is slipping, no point in getting more throttle. That may damage wheels as well as rail. If it will hold the rail at 2 or 3 mph, stay there until your situation improves ( grade ?? ).

  • @sclewell777
    @sclewell7774 күн бұрын

    Wet rails and 1 engine doesn't cut it on a grade. He probably went back n forth sanding the rails before he got traction.

  • @user-pi4wj7bm4z
    @user-pi4wj7bm4z4 күн бұрын

    Sunday at 3:40pm in Southern Ontario. J Good catch. Greg. 😊.

  • @alexsands433
    @alexsands4334 күн бұрын

    Definitely something wrong with the train not being able to climb iron mountain

  • @masskhysteria3311
    @masskhysteria33113 күн бұрын

    Grab a shot of that gondola !! That was cool!!

  • @nigelterry9299
    @nigelterry92994 күн бұрын

    Engine and turbo look and sound fine. Dragging brakes? Lack of sand with all that vegetation lying around? Money needs to be spent rather than leaving the Yorkshireman in charge of spending....

  • @ramtuff2007
    @ramtuff20074 күн бұрын

    good train video

  • @Milwroad4ever
    @Milwroad4ever4 күн бұрын

    For some reason the traction motors weren’t getting the juice to run them

  • @erie910
    @erie9104 күн бұрын

    The conductor should be at the back, protecting the shove move. Might be a sticking brake, too.

  • @TPW900GP35
    @TPW900GP353 күн бұрын

    Good video! Right before they stopped and tied down, it sounded like they were getting a lot of wheel slip. I don’t know if that’s a mechanical issue or they were out of sand. Definitely wet rail and probably a lot of wet foliage on the rail as well. I would think that 18 loads would be a piece of cake for them. They were definitely in run 8 at times, then the engineer would back it off. Probably had his ammeter buried at times, so backed off? It didn’t sound like wheel slip all the times he backed off?!

  • @trainboy4024
    @trainboy40244 күн бұрын

    It has dropped its load. He's in number 6 still struggling .

  • @ericanderson8394
    @ericanderson83944 күн бұрын

    No money for anything at ELS. What will L.P. do if the Smart siding train gets stopped by an underperforming railroad company. Somebody with super deep pockets needs to step in and just take over. Great video of a failing company. Maybe even Wisconsin and Michigan can fund it.

  • @richardmead9225
    @richardmead92254 күн бұрын

    Wet rails, high wet grass, no sand?

  • @lars277
    @lars2772 күн бұрын

    Maybe their sanders are empty. Weeds and water are slippery.

  • @user-pp6kl5pk6z
    @user-pp6kl5pk6z4 күн бұрын

    Like I said they need to purchase a bigger locomotive like an SD 70 Mack

  • @franklinwerren7684
    @franklinwerren76844 күн бұрын

    Wet wheels or bad traction motors….or even the generator is shot…..

  • @yahdoober
    @yahdoober4 күн бұрын

    Turbocharger sounds like it is going bad.

  • @TBlackMktg
    @TBlackMktg3 күн бұрын

    Maybe slick rail combined with vegetation on the rails?

  • @crdom12the
    @crdom12the4 күн бұрын

    I love the "disney" car as you call it. Someone obviously has too much time on their hands.

  • @robertoja9680
    @robertoja96804 күн бұрын

    Sounds to me the locomotive isn't loading properly more trouble some to diagnose than not loading at all..meaning its sending power to the traction motors but not as it should

  • @MidWestRailFan-1z2eq
    @MidWestRailFan-1z2eq4 күн бұрын

    Nice video, by chance, have you ever caught the High Hood unit ELS has? I saw it tied down in Escanaba last year.

  • @sclewell777
    @sclewell7774 күн бұрын

    You can hear the traction motors. That's the noise you hear

  • @michaellachapell3455
    @michaellachapell34554 күн бұрын

    I also will be in Iron Mountain next Tuesday for a couple weeks.

  • @Howoldareweanywayyipes
    @HowoldareweanywayyipesКүн бұрын

    I got a feeling Jaw Tooth is watching this somewhere.

  • @paulbergen9114
    @paulbergen91144 күн бұрын

    If you didn't see the locomotive in the cemetery you'd probably swear it was a landscape crew working on Mowing and weed trimming. Then it almost starts to sound like a Mixmaster. Independent Locomotive Services should have a few more SD40s in stock but it would probably take a week to get there from Minnesota it was just the way @12:30 how's the speed just suddenly disappears. EI. EI. Oh forget it

  • @roberthagberg5482
    @roberthagberg54823 күн бұрын

    They better do something or the railroad will lose the customer to trucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @tomroise9426
    @tomroise94264 күн бұрын

    Where is your scanner? Probably had your answer there? Wet wood wet rails old engine Alter metal loads with water. Maybe they blew a traction motor, .

  • @kittty2005

    @kittty2005

    4 күн бұрын

    Yeah 100 tons of scrap with a hundred tons of water lollol.

  • @raymondtaylor3016

    @raymondtaylor3016

    3 күн бұрын

    You people sound so stupid not knowing anything about railroading.

  • @ivantruckman1
    @ivantruckman13 күн бұрын

    Wow that rail is all whoopity whoopity

  • @xxzz9789

    @xxzz9789

    3 күн бұрын

    That rail is in good shape!

  • @roballen5670
    @roballen56704 күн бұрын

    No money for sand. That SD40-2 Shouldn't have a problem pulling that train.

  • @Cratergrease

    @Cratergrease

    4 күн бұрын

    Could be traction motors cut out due to ground relays. Happens lots in wet or snowy weather..,

  • @Howoldareweanywayyipes
    @HowoldareweanywayyipesКүн бұрын

    that's a nice camera you have there Jason.

  • @fstudent0198
    @fstudent01984 күн бұрын

    The plow blade on the rear of the loco shakes the water droplets off the weeds n grass right onto the top of the rail and the leading trucks are slipping. Probably ran out of traction sand thursday already.

  • @Fantom822-i4i
    @Fantom822-i4i3 күн бұрын

    The tracks look a little warped and rough in that area

  • @roadskare63
    @roadskare632 күн бұрын

    UUUUGH!!! the sound of that engine cut off and winding down.........and NOICE they broke the train to allow traffic to pass.....

  • @chesterfrench7721
    @chesterfrench77214 күн бұрын

    They might be out of sand. Engine seems to do okay on the level and downhill, but wheels might be slipping when they are going uphill. Short heavy train doesn't helping either.

  • @harveypeters9015
    @harveypeters90154 күн бұрын

    He thought he could, but he was wrong!

  • @reginald2004
    @reginald20044 күн бұрын

    Looks like maybe scrap metal in some of the gons. You could see it in the last one.

  • @artillerest43rdva7
    @artillerest43rdva713 сағат бұрын

    crazy never seen that before.

  • @allenstayduhar7139
    @allenstayduhar71393 күн бұрын

    You don't think all that lumber is extremely heavy?

  • @tracksidecraig
    @tracksidecraig4 күн бұрын

    This old horse ain't what she used to be

  • @daniellofgren1165
    @daniellofgren1165Күн бұрын

    impressive graffitti

  • @TylerDonitzen-777
    @TylerDonitzen-7774 күн бұрын

    503 can't climb the grade oh boy the last thing ELS needs is another downed locomotive hopefully 503 isn't breaking down.

  • @Dixonsyder87
    @Dixonsyder874 күн бұрын

    Maybe Mr retired bsnf is broken lol

  • @gregdowle8031
    @gregdowle8031Күн бұрын

    Any idea what all the wood is for?

  • @garymessina1609
    @garymessina16094 күн бұрын

    It time for repair great video thanks Jason

  • @timothystrauss3838
    @timothystrauss38384 күн бұрын

    Wasn't this locomotive worked on a few months back

  • @NJPurling
    @NJPurling2 күн бұрын

    Wet rail is bad, but if there's not much traffic the rails might have some rust which makes an excellent polishing compound to make the rails even more slick. At 12:00 What is the gradient on that stretch of track? It is very relevant to the crew on such a lousy evening I take it that the crew outlawed at 6pm Friday so they had to leave the train there

  • @larrythumper1559
    @larrythumper15594 күн бұрын

    Hi Jason poor 503 I noticed the blue boxcars from the view in the cemetery, any idea what the are doing their, noticed it looked like a door was either open or off. Thanks

  • @MrThatnativeguy
    @MrThatnativeguy2 күн бұрын

    It could be a combination of things, it seems like the engine is surging at higher load, that happens a lot on these older sd40s, the sd60s not so mucn.

  • @gatorgator3942
    @gatorgator39423 күн бұрын

    Definitely out of sand with all the wet grass and wet rails. Maybe do some tie replacements to get the speed up could help some as well.18 loaded cars roughly 2,340 tons for that SD should be no issue unless out of sand. Even though class 1’s can have the same problem on the main lines.

  • @Howoldareweanywayyipes
    @HowoldareweanywayyipesКүн бұрын

    they need a DPU is what they need.

  • @erie910
    @erie9104 күн бұрын

    I sospect wet rail with grass and weeds.

  • @mikedurhan9941
    @mikedurhan99419 сағат бұрын

    (4:28) "Have you no respect for the dead, my son!?" HAW-HAW! (That was a good one, wasn't it?) Well.......... all I can say is, I hope they bury me by the tracks......... Thanks for the video.

  • @justintuckermanrailfan8429
    @justintuckermanrailfan84294 күн бұрын

    Sounds and looks like a traction motor locked up.

  • @haroldreardon1407

    @haroldreardon1407

    4 күн бұрын

    Locked up traction motor would have prevented even this much movement.

  • @rodgodx345
    @rodgodx3454 күн бұрын

    Hey Jason when are they gonna weed spray the tracks do u think it’s that time of the year?

  • @paulmace9165
    @paulmace91654 күн бұрын

    Shop time track motor died

  • @leskeegan9033
    @leskeegan90334 күн бұрын

    They need more power instead dragging that many cars with 1 locomotive.

  • @kittty2005

    @kittty2005

    4 күн бұрын

    SD 40s have a reputation for being the work mules of the railroads, specifically SD 40-2 but both are rated at 3000 HP but the dash-2 has lower gearing, you could be rite about that.

  • @Howoldareweanywayyipes
    @HowoldareweanywayyipesКүн бұрын

    wonder what grade this track is...

  • @christopherescott6787
    @christopherescott67874 күн бұрын

    Fix what ya got. Lease until it's done. What a mickey mouse railroad.

  • @filippf12
    @filippf1223 сағат бұрын

    Have you ever find out what the problem was with that Train? Maybe blocked brakes or somthing?

  • @stephenolan5539
    @stephenolan55394 күн бұрын

    I hope there is no ash borer in that cargo.

  • @kittty2005

    @kittty2005

    4 күн бұрын

    Yeah and no ass borer either,LOLLOL.

  • @kittty2005

    @kittty2005

    4 күн бұрын

    Man that would suck to be a hobo enroute to Chicago riding that train LOL.

  • @mrfingerlakes8735
    @mrfingerlakes87352 күн бұрын

    Something is definitely wrong with that engine

  • @rons3103
    @rons31034 күн бұрын

    Looks like the engine is running on a single traction motor or the airhose is not release all of the breaks on the cars, prevent it from pulling.

  • @kittty2005

    @kittty2005

    4 күн бұрын

    Yeah you could have it rite their that would explain why they couldn't get to Iron Mountain, I think I remember Jason saying something about 503 having traction motor troubles down by green bay, But I may be mistaken.

  • @haroldreardon1407

    @haroldreardon1407

    4 күн бұрын

    What?? 5 out of 6 tm's are bad?? Doubt it.

  • @kittty2005

    @kittty2005

    4 күн бұрын

    @@haroldreardon1407 I was mistaken on the quantity of traction motors, I looked it up and you are correct they have 6 so how many do you think it would take to disable that engine?

  • @kittty2005

    @kittty2005

    4 күн бұрын

    @@haroldreardon1407 And they have a higher gearing than the dash2s in that their top speed is 83 mph, and the sd40-2 is 60mph, I would think that the dash2 has the advantage, they both weigh 360,000 pounds and both have 6 traction motors

  • @davidbrown4823
    @davidbrown48234 күн бұрын

    Something seriously wrong. A SD-40-2 should been having no trouble with a train of this length.

  • @mrfingerlakes8735
    @mrfingerlakes87352 күн бұрын

    All that pulp wood should’ve been on the pin

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