For carpentry, I use the Occidental proframer and love it. Cannot stand the adjust to fit because I like to push my bags towards the back when in tight work settings or when the residence I am working in is worth more then I will ever earn in my life! Prevents me from knocking or scuffing doors and furniture in those situations and the adjust to fit doesn't let me push the bags towards the back. I added the hip buddies and the stronghold suspenders as well. Best setup ever for carpentry. I am 6'2" and I still find the fat lip models are too wide and long for me. I prefer the smaller length and foot print of the proframer for that as well. All leather is heavier but you get used to it rather quickly. Either way, occidental belts are not the Cadillac of tool belts... they are the Rolls Royce :). Diamond Back and Buckaroo belts are very good, some of my employees have them, but the horizontal setup of the Occidentals is much better for me (less bending sideways) then the vertical one (bending sideways is annoying) these brands offer. Btw, my occidental carpentry setup is now 26 years old and is still rocking it. I also have electrician and drywall belts with suspenders from occidental that I purchased over the years and I wear them regularly. My carpentry proframer is my go to EDC and I would not go towards any other brand. Good review.

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Brazeau! This comment is so good I'm pinning it to the top. I've really got to try the proframer sometime. But I will concede an upgrade from Cadillac to the Rolls 😁

@ibrazeau3044

4 жыл бұрын

The Honest Carpenter - Thanks and Happy Holidays and the Best New Year to you and your loved ones.

@ibrazeau3044

4 жыл бұрын

The Honest Carpenter - also, after having had the Fat Lip, I cannot see how you would enjoy the proframer! It is smaller and less wide but unless you really wanted to live with that difference... I think you would hate me afterwards. It's like going from a Ford F-250 to a Ford Ranger. Unless there is a need for it, I don't really recommend a downgrade. But it does fit the bill for me well though... the proframer that is :)

@packman21421

4 жыл бұрын

You should look up diamondback toolbelts... Thick leather isn't the best anymore. You may also think stiletto makes the best hammers, they don't, Martinez does. It's all good, different School of thoughts. I'm just after the best of the best, not just almost the best.

@ibrazeau3044

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Nguyen - I have tried the DB Denali rig and sold it because of the vertical setup DB has going. Plus the belt has to be worn higher because of that and I don't like that at all. Occidental also makes nylon bags which are just as good as DB for less money. I love leather, and it does last. Leather comes from a living being and Occidental uses top grain and saddle leather for their belts. Most boots don't use such high grade leather and can sell for double the price. I can't see myself spending big money on a nylon belt that reminds me of military days anymore. To each their own but I don't see any reason mentioned in your reply to substantiate your negative opinion of Occidental belts then the leather is not as good anymore. Which is false. I do own Martinez hammers... an M1 curved handle with both the smooth face and a waffled face heads and also an M4 curved handle with the dimpled face and a wide claw smooth faced head. I also have a Stiletto 15oz Tibone III hammer and a 12oz finish. Do I prefer Martinez over Stiletto? Yes only for one reason... that the handle is thinner and a 2" shorter on the M1. Other then that they are equivalent in pretty much everything else. For $300.00 the Martinez hammer head bolts have rusted and stained the handle and the paint on all the heads has chipped and degraded the appearance of the hammer heads quite a bit. To say that one is better then the other is a loose statement as each, hammer or belt, has positives and negatives that need to weighed in before purchasing. I think that these high-end products are all top notch and worthy to be considered. Then it boils down to the positives and negatives of each to make you decision. Have you tried any of these products? Good luck

Just bought my own occidental fat lip tool belt last week and while it was expensive, it is worth every penny, where i work i have to sometimes do drywall, trim work, board ups, flooring and just plain demo jobs. This belt allows me to carry almost everything i need. Huge upgrade from my 40 dollar husky carpenters tool belt. Great video!

I’ve got friends that wear them & they still look good and are functional after 23 yrs. I’m definitely getting one & I really like the set up you have, working for a general contracting construction company I do a little of everything being a foreman & I’m tired of going through 2 sometimes 3 belts a year. Thanks man Merry Christmas

I finally got myself an Occidental Framer set last year, the classic green bags, and it's awesome. Leather is great in that it forms and wears but stays strong. I was still somewhat desirous of the functionality of the more modern systems like Diamondback, and the Occidentals do feel very dated and lacking by comparison, though I do really love them, so I opted to innovate a little and improved them with some leather work. I added a bunch of loops and interior pouches and slots for all kinds of tools to make better use of the space. I stitched a bandolier-style bit holder along the inside of the fastener / square bag, along with a chisel loop and two slots for pliers and wrenches, and I'm making a clip-on adapter for torpedo level, and then for the dominant side I sort of doubled the current slots and loops to organize all of my other stuff, and it all looks like it was original to the system. I can quickly organize and add whatever tools I need for the day without just dumping random stuff in my bag that falls out while climbing around. It's now everything I could possibly need for a tool belt, it looks and operates amazingly, and I'm excited to take it through the many years of building!

I've had my occidental setup for over 15 years. Its awesome and can't imagine anything better

Love my Occidentals. Heavy use for 7 years now and holding strong.

Recently purchased the Big Oxy with the stronghold suspenders......Absolutely love it!!!! The best system I have ever owned..

Just got my second set for finish work. I have the same setup as you for 7 months now. It’s great

I remember going through a ton of paneer style pouches and belts, but nothing seemed to work to my liking. This one seems like it covers most of the stuff that I wanted. Good stuff!

I used to work construction here in Santa Rosa (Sonoma County) and Occidental Leather is fairly common for anyone who's been working for more than a year or so. I never quite built up the gumption to pick one up, sticking to a pretty strong nylon one. Having seen them up close and personal, I know that they are amazing and worth the money if you plan on working construction long-term.

Truly a king's set of bags. Used a 3" belt, pro drywall pouch,2 pouch pro fastener bag (the one with the dedicated leather molded tape holder, I like my tape on my left), the stronghold lights, and a high mount hammer holder. Used for a couple years as a drywaller (barely scratched a fraction of these set ups life expectancies) and changed professions. Def a lot nicer than a rocker needs but the quality and utility was unbeatable. If I ever go back into the trades all I'll need is a different (trade specific) tool pouch and I'd be set for anything.

I have the fat limp and strong hold suspenders. 6 years using it. I’ve worn threw the metal clips on the stronghold suspenders a few times. I call occidental and they send me new ones for free. Great system

Been using the fat lip framing on the obx for the last three years and they are holding strong! Can’t say enough about the quality. Nothing you can get at a big box store even comes close.

Enjoyed the video Ethan. Thanks for taking the time to share that tool belt information. I wish you and your family a blessed Christmas from Surry county NC. Y'all take care and God bless

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Ron! Merry Christmas to yall out there in Surry County!

Just got my occidental 7 bag proframers yesterday so stoked can't wait till I brake them in.

I run leather Occidentals too but I run them on my fall protection harness. I keep a small 16” lanyard attached too so when I have to work off of a ladder or rebar cage I can hook in, lean back, and I’m good to go. It’s especially great when in an odd elevated position and I have to drill into concrete or something

Dude thanks for the info, you answered every question I had

Billy Zabka's stunt double from Cobra Kai

@richiedeleon566

Жыл бұрын

Damn I couldnt think of who it was! Spot on!!

You said organization and that is the biggest thing for me. I bought the electricians belt to help me organize my tools. The quality is amazing and in 100 dagree heat I can wear it all day.

Good video, Everything you said is true, I have been in the trades for 40 years

Really excellent insights on which tool belts can provide the most ideal support - and great footage! Not loopy or jumpy at all

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Some professional camera work in this one 😁

I still love my all leather Craftsman bags with straps I have an electricians bag on the right for my tape and tin snips and a nailer on th he left for screws I have owned them for 20 years I put mink oil on them often.

My Occidental bags are 18 yrs old and show no signs of failing... "Buy once, cry once"

I have the Occidental builders vest with detachable bags, probably the best all round set up i've worn to date. Occidental Leather are are fantastic company that make great products, 👍 😁 🔨 🇮🇪

good review. I'm in New Zealand i have just ordered my first belt as frustrated with a lack of design ideas to accommodate different layout and tools. the occidental does thee perfect lay out i have been re configuring my belts my self and they make one that fits right off the the line.

@overcomer4226

3 жыл бұрын

Kiora!

Thanks for the info on your tool belt. Good points

I use the 5078 pro carpenter with the stronghold suspenders with the hip buddies. I have been using occidental belts for over twenty years they are the only tool belt I will use . The best period .

Bought my first occidental set up 22 years ago, for $140. I'm still using them, have had them repaired a few times. Looking to get new bags now, definitely going with occidental

@user-hd8ej8yx9p

2 жыл бұрын

wowwww 140/22 years is 6 dollars/yr cost. Did you get new ones?

I have had the Occidental tool bags for about 15 yrs. You can’t destroy them. I agree with you they are the best. And like you I agree they are heavy, even empty, which is a bigger negative now that I am 69 yrs. old. But I’m not getting rid of them. I might add the shoulder harness at some point though.

Great review!

I am a fan of Occidental leather tool belts but I also have a Diamondback tool belt setup and am an absolute fan of the Diamondback tool belts as well!

Im in commercial HVAC and I use the electricians set up with a few ad ons and I love my belt.

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

I've always like electrician's paneers, Paco. They have a lot more small features, for all the various sidecutters and screwdrivers and tapes you guys use. Carpenter setups tend to be just these big hollow bags 😂

Great video!

Great video dude, thank you. Loving your content. I'm using tough built cliptech system, only because I can have the option of hooking up my bags/ pouches onto my tool box, and cliptech hub in my Van. I like that versatility. 🍻

Man, these tools bags the best. I bought mine in a swapmeet for $135. almost new conditon.

Great video! Thanks.

Thanks for the review.

GREAT VIDEO ON SUSPENDERS.

Good review thanks !

Another great vid, thanks.

💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 Thanks, you’re really good at what you do, and you have the talent to explain everything in good detail ! A Romanian’s greetings from Germany ! 🇷🇴 🇩🇪 🇺🇸

@TheHonestCarpenter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Tudor! 😄 🇷🇴

I have that one but in oxylite no leather. I’m a drywall/metal framer . After 5 years it has no rips and still comfortable. Really good for framing but kinda clunky for drywall. Thanks

I have the stronghold suspenders and really like them.

Dude, that's my belt! I love it, I'm a lefty and really appreciate being able to order it that way instead of wearing it backwards like I used to. The tool storage is excellent, more than enough hardware storage. I've had it for 2 or 3 years, still great.

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for writing in Max! You’ve got it right-almost TOO much storage in this thing 😅 My rig rests at about 14 lbs. then I stick a drill in it, a driver, a 2x4 cutoff with notes on it, two weeks worth of pulled out fasteners...

@ajs96350

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheHonestCarpenter I hook a makita impact on the belt right behind me on my left side. Dont even notice it's there most of the time.

@buildinit6523

4 жыл бұрын

NOW I NEED A LEFT HANDED HAMMER

@tomforward990

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ve got a Diamondback rig but use the stronghold suspenders. They’re sweet and I’ve had them for 10 years. They’ve been on about 3 set ups

@gideonkroll5573

2 жыл бұрын

Still working for ya??

i love occidental tool belt so comfortable but heavy ... i bought mine off a builder who was retiring and had the belt for 8 years got it for $250 USD and i had it for 4 years now

Well done man.

There's a new sheriff in town (well, actually from Canada) --- Akribis Leather

It’s like the batman utility belt of the woodworking world. Great review!

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Very true, OGB 😆 Thanks for watching!

@o.g.bwoodwork

4 жыл бұрын

The Honest Carpenter any tips on how to grow a channel? I’ve only just started and I’m finding it really hard to get subscribers.

@ibrazeau3044

4 жыл бұрын

O . G . B Woodwork - IMO, stick to one thing and post. If it is carpentry, travel, food, stick to it and post. If you like multiple subjects, open a channel for either but do not mix content. Seems monotonous but that's how YT recommends to viewers. Always keep the content and language clean an refine your style. When you're at a certain number of posts, YT will recommend. Also, in maker videos, ppl like to see how to's/reviews/opinions of the tools you use (such as this one with THC in the belt or the nifty orange ladder in your shed #3 video). And for building stuff, keep to a type... furniture is furniture, Handyman work is Handyman work, framing and building is.... well you get the picture. Most high subscriber channels have really started with a one-hit-wonder video, the one that got 1000's of views and they stuck with that recipe (content, editing, style) afterwards. Good luck and keep it monotone :) I subscribed, keep them coming. One comment, the timelapse is cool but you should mix up overlay description but talking and section your video from time lapse to regular speed to explain your progress and what you are going to do. Timelapse is cool for repetitious tasks within the video. Just a thought.

@packman21421

4 жыл бұрын

You should look up diamondback toolbelts lol... People who say Occidental leather is the best tend to say stiletto makes the best hammers too, without knowing about Martinez tools. Diamondback and Martinez are the ultimate carpenter rig.

I had one pair that I built "EMPIRES" and civilizations with. I am long and lanky and LOVE Occidental. It is a heritage system. Not about money or fashion. It is sold at Ashland LUmber in Ashland Oregon. Thank you for the video. I have the nylon and leather overalls.

wore occidentals for 25 years occi leather and oci lights have shifted to vests and am now wearing atlas 46

@goatgoeslarping3147

3 жыл бұрын

I went from atlas 46 to the Occidentals, the atlas 46 were just not ideal for me but I love the Occidentals so far

I use toughbuilt. I have the padded belt (makes a huge difference) and suspenders from my old mastercraft belt. I would like to upgrade the shoulder straps eventually, but they're broken in and fine for now. Tried the toughbuilt belt because it is very affordable, but it was money well spent and I love it. The pouches are awesome! This is where it goes off the rails! The pouches can be taken off and put on instantly with their clip system. I don't have to remove my tool harness any any point during the day. Am I working a cut station and don't need to carry the weight? *Click click* and the pouches are off and on the floor in under 2 seconds. I have a small utility pouch on me at all times that holds a knife, pencil, tape measure, chalk line and marker. I'm ready for cutting! If I need to change jobs, I have a few extra pouches that can be swapped out instantly as the job requires. I can take them off to climb trusses and squeeze between joists. If someone is getting fasteners, I can pass them my pouch for top ups. If someone is ouyr of fasteners, I can pass them my pouch. If someone needs to borrow my driver, I'll pass them my holster with a clip and they can add it to their belt without taking the belt off. Big rant, but the flexibility is so mind blowing that I still think about how lucky I am to have them 5 years later. I'll auto pilot the action, but appreciate the ability to be so flexible with my gear in retrospect.

Recently I was doing more home projects then I would like to , BUT its part of being , a home owner . I thought I should get myself a tool belt . yeah BUDDY ! here ya go again with most excellent advise . I love the list of great tools as always . Joe the tree guy ..

@TheHonestCarpenter

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Joe! 👍😁

I have been dissatisfied with every tool belt system I’ve tried and I’ve tried many. I’ll definitely have to give this one a try.

I'm not a professional carpenter, but I also use Occidental. Very happy with it! I think you mean Pannier, as in the side bags on a bike or a skirt hiked up on the sides. Not being critical, just trying to help. If I am wrong, I would like to know what right is, as this stuff is very interesting. Thanks!

@ I've heard a few people talk about how the Occidental belts can have pretty long pockets....I'm 5ft 8in and I'm a thinner build...just wondering if this bag would be to long or bulky for me? Thanks!

Awesome video! You should make a video of what your every day carry in your tool belt system is :)

I have the same Kobalt pliers like the ones you pulled out of one of the pockets. Do know what their name is? they are my go to pliers. Good video and overview of the occidental system

I run a stronghold comfort belt with fatlip fastener bag and electricians tool case. Over 20 years in the electrical trade and no other setup comes close. Occidental customer for life!!

I DB5080 pro framer bags and they’re amazing 💪🏾

I have both Occidental and diamondback I love them both! The only thing I don’t like about Occidental is there belt itself. Soo to fix this issue I got a Buckaroo Toolbelt.you may like Buckaroo more than Occidental because they are all leather, durable and lightweight. But, those three names( Occidental, diamondback and Buckaroo) are the crown of tool bags. It all depends on what you like but all three are made to last.

I think my latest set is 25 years old and HAMMERED and yet still perfect. no holes.

Excellent bags good price too. A Diamond Back rig will run $600

Diamondback is worth a look as well.

OK OK the straps of the belt make it look like my nephew needed to toss them on to wear my tool belt. But I also do like this and the vid on what your essential contents are when you wear it. That one made so much sense I tossed out a few of what I thought were commonsense and added a few of yours.

Worth the price 100% they will last u 3 at least extreme ware but most people I know have them for about 5 years

I got a Zakco Pro 20 tool pouch w/ an Occidental Stronghold Suspension System

I agree I just got this belt 2 months ago I wish I would’ve got the 4 years ago lol

Thank You Ethan (Fat Guy, really just Big and Tall (:-). You read my last comment. This is my Christmas Present to Me. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas, Art! Enjoy it!

THE PLASTIC CUPS ARE WHAT IM LOOKING FOR. I KEEP OPEN RAZOR KNIFE. GOOD REVIEW. SAME EXACT STORY. WENT THRU SO MANY AND THREADS GET CUT

I’m thinking about making a custom belt and build it little by little

I got several different tool belts. I wear the leather apron style belts backwards. I’ve found it lets me bend down and not have all the junk in the pockets fall out onto my lap.

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Billy bob, thanks for watching. I've worked with lots of framers and roofers over the years who hung them that way. I tried it lots of times, but just couldn't get used to reaching back for fasteners--couldn't tell what was what. Works great though if you've just got gun nail racks and such back there though. Saves some money too

@lordrichard8184

4 жыл бұрын

The Honest Carpenter yeah. I only do it when I carry 1 fastener. The bags aren’t really set up for different kinds like my framing bags. Plus they don’t hold as many tools.

Oxys are the best for sure, find the paid that works for you. I started with some Pro Framers (as a framer) blindly, but i almost wish i would have picked out a diff bag setup. Ill prob just switch/swap mine piece by piece. because overall I'm super happy with it. (with oxy stronghold suspendors)

The link you attached for this belt doesn’t seem to have the leather tape holder. Is there another link. Thx

I have a whole collection. Just sent my 15 yo leather bags in for repair...cost me $35. Replaced two small outside pockets, pinched and riveted all corners, and fixed torn stitching. Told em I lost a knee pad and they said they try to find one for me. Top notch, worth every penny

@eazyfnduzit

3 жыл бұрын

I just bought a nylon set. The leather bags are smaller but weigh more. The nylon bags are really big, but comfortable. I can’t decide which I like better.

I need this

Thanks bro

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

I just bought these same bags they were 377.00 , I still have to order the suspenders, and that's an additional 138.00. Then another 15.00 for the loops to slide on the belt to connect the suspenders to the belt, that's over 500 bucks now for the same bags in this video.

Great video mate. Have you heard of Buckeroo yet?

I have had the nylon bags and vest for 12 years. Its awesom and worth every penny of 300. It would cost a little more now

The only tool belt I have is a hand me down nylon that’s breaking down. This and the Milwaukee contractors belt are the only two I’ve seen that look decent. I LOVE leather, but idk if I love it as much as $300😂

Looks like I’ll have to save up for that one. I hope Santa brings you something in stockings Ethan!

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ed! Happy holidays!

@packman21421

4 жыл бұрын

You should look up diamondback toolbelts... Thick leather isn't the best anymore. You may also think stiletto makes the best hammers, they don't, Martinez does. It's all good, different School of thoughts. I'm just after the best of the best, not just almost the best.

My progression... Free canvas apron from lumber yards customized with coat hanger hammer loop & riveted sleeves for my knife. Carpenter's belt (hand me down). My first rig; AWP oil tanned leather (belt, left side framer's pouch, right side hammer loop & knife sheath). The BEST bang for the buck, think Occidentals on a budget. My final rig; Occidental Framer's Belt that I'd swap pouches in & out from time to time. Occidental is undeniably the best, but I'd never kick AWP's (aka Rooster Products) oil tanned belt set-ups out of the bed. The Roosters would last me for about 5 years with regular use, but the Occidentals last forever for a set.

I have one the only problem I found with them is that I sweat so much the leather dries out I have oil them but once you oil them they Mark your clothes really bad they tend to rip right where the belt connects because it's not double layered there

My electrical foreman still has his pair after 20 years and gets work out of it.

I started with a occidental upgraded to a diamond back since it was lighter and I got tired of my hammer smashing the back of my leg all day

@thisisconstruction.

4 жыл бұрын

Slot Hut I have a diamond back hammer holder on my Occidental 7 bag ☝️

Great video. Can't wait to build my Occi-rig. Cobra Kai. ;)

I had the occidental leather Adjust to fit fatlip bags for maybe 7 years until the waist stitching tore and started to fall apart. That was the 2nd most comfortable setup i had. Most of the occidental bags are not ergonomic, especially for a right hand dominant person. Tape measure should ALWAYS be on the left side. I personally thing the B5611 and 5525 are ALMOST the perfect left side bags because tape measure AND chalk box is right there. If they had 2 smaller outter pockets instead of 1, that would make them perfect. Akribis leather bags are the most comfortable and ergonomic bags i have ever worn. Until they got stolen 🤦🏻‍♂️

I know you really like Occidental Leather tool belts. I was wondering if you have tried the Diamondback Artisan tool belt? If you have, would you consider making a video reviewing it? I really enjoy your videos, I too, enjoy a good tool belt. I have the Occidental Leather Pro Framer and really like it. I have seen RR Builders channel do a review of the Made in USA company Diamondback. Let me know what you think and keep up with the great educational videos. Thanks.

I had the-adjust to fit fat lip framers, and hated them too and sold them.

i got my ox bags and suspenders at a ol carpenters estate sale aution,,,,25.00 bucks ,,,god bless ol lynn

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Man, that’s a find 😁

Did Occidental buy badger? Are badger good bags?

Seems like the best idea yet, but what would you suggest, could you suggest, for a gal like myself who’s quite “well endowed”? (😆). Suspenders usually chafe a bit...

@danielbabcock7004

4 жыл бұрын

Theyre expensive but look at Buckaroo Leatherworks, they're an Australian company

I wear size 32 pants what size belt should I get

Now that you’ve had the nylon bags for a while, what is your recommendation. Stay to stay with the combination nylon leather or go the full leather version?

@TheHonestCarpenter

Жыл бұрын

I like to have at least leather bottoms, Nathan! Full leather is nice too; but full nylon is too prone to tearing at the bottom 😬

I wore occidental for 22 years . I had to retire them. 3 months ago I bought diamond back. There are things I like about the diamond backs but the comfort is just not there. They are stiff . The pockets are plentiful but too tight to fit a hand into. The tool pockets are too tight to fit tools into. I’m going to buy the occidental and add the diamond back hammer holster to it. That’s the best feature about diamond back . Occidental is the best for comfort

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Christopher! The Fat Lip can be a little bulky, but it's hard to beat that open access to your tools. I can shove a whole drill, or a trim cutoff, down in my right pouch and just walk around with it in there. Thanks for the insight on diamondbacks!

@packman21421

4 жыл бұрын

If you're a big guy, you should've gotten some Grande bags and then broke them in by washing them and stretching them out overnight... It literally says so on their merch info page.

@ajs96350

4 жыл бұрын

The one he reviewed is the one I have, you won't regret it.

Buckaroo!! For the win dog

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

I want to try one!

I like my occidental tool belt, but ever since I got my atlas 46 rig, I’ll never go back. Atlas 46 is the best most comfortable belt system I’ve ever used.

14 years In my strong hold setup best bags out there.

That was great Ethan and the Merry Christmas at the end gave it a "Soul". It's always good to see another Christian man. Merry Christmas to you too. 🙂🎇🎄

@TheHonestCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Al! Wishing you all the best!

Any hvac installers recommend this belt? I’m currently a lvl 1 apprentice and am looking to find the best belt possible for me. I’m right handed.