Gotta fire the head office first.....absolutely dont want those fools in charge of a rebuild.

@Notjackpausner

Ай бұрын

Shapiro is ok Atkins sucks ass

No way should Atkins be allowed to make moves. Fire him now

@gcanada3005

Ай бұрын

Please he's giving ownership exactly what they wanted. An excuse to slash payroll and start the rebuild. Look at the teams history since Rogers bought them. It's what Rogers does. We will see payrolls in the Bottom 10 for the next 3-4 years. Rogers gets richer, $9 billion isn't nearly enough

@SChoi380

Ай бұрын

You guys both right. But really atkins should be fired

@ronb5529

Ай бұрын

GET RID OF ROSS before he totally screws this team up

Atkins has to go first!!!!!!! HE CANNOT BE IN CHARGE OF THE TRADES FOR THESE GUYS. I cannot believe that the ownership group is ok with him with a sell off. I give Atkins credit for putting together a really good starting staff and at times, a good bullpen. But he has wasted that by failing to put a line up that can hit. It's a huge disappointment to me that this organization does not have ONE outfielder waiting in the wings to take some load off of springer and keirmier. That's a joke. Poor coaching staff has led to poor onfield performance as well. Atkins and Schneider have to go asap so that proper assessment can be done before the deadline.

I hope Atkins isn’t making the trades , can him first

@christopherblack4520

Ай бұрын

Glad AA is not making trades did the worst trade in blue jays history, Dickey for Syndergaard,.

@Jroc9

Ай бұрын

@@christopherblack4520 You mean the guy who won a World Series in Atlanta?? You mean the guy who has been leading a team to the playoffs since 2015???

@christopherblack4520

Ай бұрын

@@Jroc9 Alex Anthopoulos did not build the Braves he walked into a great team and only won once. Braves have a lower raked farm system than the Jays. Name one thing Alex did for the Braves. Alex Anthopoulos did not last in LA Did Alex Anthopoulos make the Dickey for Syndergaard trade?, the worst trade in Blue Jays History. Did Alex Anthopoulos sign the worst contract in Blue Jays history for old , slow, injury prone players that the Jays had to pay teams to take. Alex's time as a Jay accomplished nothing, no world series and that all what counts 4th place is the same as 30th.

@msteele2214

Ай бұрын

@@christopherblack4520 I mean, Gurielle Jr and Moreono for Varsho is up there as well for one of the worst trades in blue jays history too....Just saying

@christopherblack4520

Ай бұрын

@@msteele2214 This year Varsho is one of the better Jays hitting and great defense, I like him as a Jay, only 27 . Gurielle Jr defense sucks, streaky offense. Moreono should be great, Jansen can be the 1 catcher for years to come proven offensive power, it would be a waste to have Moreono as backup. I would of liked to see Kirk gone trade would never happen. Dickey cost more games than he won, Syndergaard would have been one of the best Jays pitchers ever.

Do not trade Vlad and Bo. WTF. Plenty of others on the team to move and get prospects with.

Should have traded the two of them two years ago...

i think it's 90% guillermo's fault. the behind the scenes hitting coaches in 2021 had the jay's hitting like crazy until guillermo found out and shut them down.

@rman5895

Ай бұрын

It should be fired long time ago...2020 the hitting advisor is Dante Bichett...

@user-wq9wp5ps1w

15 күн бұрын

I think so too and Don Mattingly too

No way. This front office is clueless and will only get fleeced again.

Neither Bo nor Vlad are premium players that Jays fanbase so want to believe. They are worth exactly what other teams are willing to pay and at the moment, and that's not too much. Blue Jays marketing, which includes Sportsnet and Fan590, pumped this stock well above market value. Fans are in for a shocker.

@spman2099

Ай бұрын

If you are talking about Guerrero, then what you're saying is true. I still believe Guerrero has greatness in him, but belief doesn't put food on the table; he just hasn't shown that greatness consistently in the last couple of years. but Bichette? One rough month does not erase the excellent career he has had up to this point. Personally, I think his defensive foibles are a problem, and would prefer to have a more reliable defender, but outside of a few weirdos like me, no one gives a shit about defense in baseball, and his bat will be coveted.

@Flexb123

Ай бұрын

Nah man. Vlad has an MVP ceiling. we've seen it and at 25 no reason to think he can't get back there. I actually think moving him though will help him and end up making the jays look awful when he recaptures his form. And aside from that, he has a big name in ball, way more of a brand name then most players do. He also had tons of awards and accolades, more than 99% of players do after a long career. Gold Glove, HR champ, Derby Champ, Silver Slug, Hank Aaron, 3x Allstar, 1 x Allstar MVP and there are a few more that aren't coming to mind. His lack of MVP play is more on the team and coaching than it is him. And we will see this if he gets traded.

@Flexb123

Ай бұрын

@@spman2099 Compare their career stats - Bo has a slightly better BA at .290 compared to .280 but Vlads OPS is .840 compared to Bo's .810. (also Vlad leads in slugging and OPS+) Vlad has been the better offensive player over the course of their careers thus far.

@itheuserfirst3186

Ай бұрын

Ridiculous. They will easily be traded. Too much talent. Welcome to baseball. Not every season is a good one.

Good, trade both Bo and Vlad. Get back the highest offer you can, regardless if it's the Dodgers Yankees or As and Pirates

FIRE ROSS ATKINS

One can only hope *trade springer while they're at it

I agree with everyone's comments about not letting Atkins do the trades, especially if he knows his firing is coming.

I don’t know lol trade Vlad and Bo for stack of peanuts? Why not hire an experienced manager lol 😆

Agree with what a lot of folks on here are saying... before trading any of these players the head office needs to be cleaned out. Let the new GM make the trade, not the guys currently at the helm.

@ronb5529

Ай бұрын

get rid of all the hitting coaches and hire Bo's Dad Dante Bichette

Bo shouldn't be playing SS either though, he should be 2B. And Vladdy's offensive cieling still much higher. He still could be that guy, hes only 25. Judge was a rookie at 25

Talk is just that talk. We had talk that Ohtani was on the plane to Toronto. Out of anyone on the Bluejays who do you think is the first person you think of ...it's Vladdy. He is the blue jays. They would have to offer a premiere player like an Ohtani. The problem is Shatkins and their scouts. They are too into analytics that they don't go and sit and watch a player when they are scouting. Thay is why the older managers are better, now they run to their tablets instead of standing at the railing and watching the pitcher live throwing each pitch.

Ship them both out and throw in Springer to sweeten the deal

Good to see the Front Office being proactive. You're not keeping both long term. They need to get rid of the Springer contract, too.

Changes have to be made by a new GM. Ross Atkins cannot inflict anymore damage to this team.

Watch Atkins trade these guys for defence only players lmfao

@Notjackpausner

Ай бұрын

His favourite types of players is good defender immature players and players who don’t know how to hit

@mcfarlac1

Ай бұрын

@@Notjackpausner the Ross Atkins trifecta lol

@alanwarnock71

Ай бұрын

that's what i was thinking

@simonjohn354

Ай бұрын

​@@Notjackpausnerand players with "years of control".

Trading either Bo or Vladdy is a mistake … especially Bo

@CP-kb1du

Ай бұрын

Why. 3 homers

@user-wq9wp5ps1w

15 күн бұрын

Yup I agree

I'm going to laugh if/when Bichette gets traded and is immediately put at 2nd base by his new team. Something the Jays should have done a while ago.

Can only point to batting coach. From 28-5 against Red Socks and powerhouse offence to a dead offence. Time to face the music. Time for a real batting coach.

Yes trade them for guys that can pitch and guys that can hit and win games. Add a new manager as well!

price needs to be astronomical. need at least 3 defensive specialists for each of them.

I was hoping they were trading Atkins. Bichette is golden and not the issue.

Oh, I'm not so sure about this one boys. There's not too many SS that can hit like Bo. Tops in the league in hits the past number of seasons. Vlad is hot now hitting singles. We need power at 1st and DH

FIRE SHATKINS NOW!

Trade Ross Atkins to Atlanta first.

@bernardalvares7281

Ай бұрын

Don't think that Anthoupoulos will accept the dregs of his former team!

The problem is John Schneider horrible manager, team is good. I can see trading Vlad playing better might get something, he will never grow up.

@user-wq9wp5ps1w

15 күн бұрын

Nope I think it is the hitting coaches and Don Mattingly that are at fault

I can’t see us trading both of them, maybe 1 but not both

little eddie rogers does not want give long term contracts for their young stars bo and vladdy and it is weighing on them their uncertainty in a couple years Rogers and Atkins did not want give a long term contract for marcus semien, traded teoscar for an average reliever and gave away guriel jr in the varsho trade and also little eddie rogers does not seem to care that atkins fucked up his team.and his players. he is just glad his stadium the rogers center can make him a lot more money with the additions of bars and restaurants...this Is Why They suck now!

I agree with Peter. All points

Why are shatkins still employed????

If I traded any of the two or even both, they are getting traded to an NL team, no way am I sending them to my competitors

The love the perpetual rebuild mentality. Yes let's trade younger talent constantly just to end up trading more young talent. Like if they were old then ok but guess what.... they are not old.

Didnt think we would be talking about these trades couple years ago?

Stop with the 2.5 games out of a play-off spot. This team, even if they make the post-season, are not doing anything in the play-offs. Get rid of atkins and then make the trades. Everyone is tradeable.

@Tango21C

Ай бұрын

About to be blanked by the white Sox haha this team is a complete joke

Ross Atkins is a Walmart Kyle Dubas

#fireatkins

It does make sense to trade Bo and Vlad With Horwitz and Clement you get better defence at a 32million dollar discount. Can always pick up some bats in free agency. Not like Toronto is going to do anything in the playoffs this year or next.

@davenugent5882

Ай бұрын

Can always get bat's in free agency.......then why haven't we????

Peter should go to the Rungrado 1st of May stadium

Its actually not suprising , they havnt played well. So thats not insane !!

Well they gotta do something - I wouldn’t pay to see this team… this is supposed to be an easy part of the schedule 🤭😏

Yeah I’m sorry to be that guy, but if they move one or both of my literal favourites, I’m done…like I’ll follow them to whatever team they land and be a fan of that team, I won’t support the jays anymore unless Ross and John are both fired and banned from ever entering Canada again.

@gustavvson

Ай бұрын

Or better yet locked in an insane asylum

Dodger Blue for Bo

What are inconsistent ballplayers worth??? Not much. Don't hold your breath, Vlad & Bo aren't going anywhere if the Jays are asking a lot.

Peter has changed his tune so many times. We went from an ohtani away from winning the World Series to let’s trade these core players. If atkins making the deal we probably het nothing back. Both players going to walk for nothing

Don't see it at all but if anyone goes it'll be bo. Roger's doesn't need money and I don't see a trade to fill his spot.

If a team could make the deal that Bo moves to 2nd - okay.

Vlad, maybe, Bo for sure!

Every move over the years was to compliment these 2 players. Now they are considering trading them? Just fold the team at that point

Seems like all Toronto teams are dismantling their teams. Raptors did a good job doing that. I could be basement dwellers for a couple of years. Leafs and Blue Jay's are questionable what moves they will make. Maybe all 3 teams will be basement dwellers together.

Rogers should be looking at new GM and what ever Ross is, not getting rid of Bo & Vladdy. This is Ross's team he has really done anything to help this team since he has been here except fot the pitching. HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO GO. START A SIGN DRIVE TO GET RID OF ROSS. SIGNS AT ALL THE GAMES TO GET RID OF BACK STABBING ROSS. SIGNS SAYING ROSS HAS TO GO AT EVERY GAME

Jays fans are naive -- we can trade away two known superstars for future prospects who may never work out. We need Teo and Soto and our offence issues would be addressed -- both are free agents next year.

I would trade them all the jays really have is a starting pitching staff. Imagine how Kikuchi felt last night.the third baseman commits an error that eventually leads to a run. The pictures know they have no wiggle room most nights. Pitching with that added pressure that if I give up 3 runs over 7 innin*s 90% chance Jays lose the game Springer who is a great person is nearly washed up at the plate Varsho who has shown some pop this year is barely hitting 200 Jansen is a bright spot but he can’t play everyday and he is only catcher the Jays have Schneider is fine as a supportive player but he should be hitting 6-9 in lineup. He isn’t a core player Turner just wasn’t a great signing he is ok but when the batting order is this weak Jays needed a stud in this spot Kiner-Falefa he would be ok batting 8 or 9 on a strong hitting team but again Jays need bats and this is a border line triple A player Clement is even a big step down from Chapman no power and weak defensively another Triple A player Gladdy making 20 million his power has gone he doesn’t seem to be same person that hit 48 home runs in 2021 his HR TOTALS are falling from 48 to 32 to 26 now at almost 33% through rge 2024 season Gladdy has 4 HR. He is a cancer on this team his goofing around is annoying he needs to be traded Bichette is hitting 226 down from 306 last season. He has always had a bad arm throwing to first base. He may be worth building a team around I’m 50- 50 on weather you extend or trade him The Jays will finish last in there division and Shapiro and Akins will be fired. If jays are wise they bring back ALEX ANTHOPOULOS give him President of baseball operations and General Manager jobs. He is Canadian he would leave Atlanta if he had total control over all baseball roster and staff hirings. Alex could right this ship quickly. If I’m ownership of Jays I ask permission to talk to Alex now. It’s similar situation as to when Bobby Cox left the Jays to return to USA this time Alex comes home. Just give Alex Carte Blanche and whatever salary and term he wants. Shapiro and Akins have just gutted this team over the last 10 years

I'm totally fine with trading both these guys but like others have mentioned, they better get rid of the front office first. Why would I trust these guys to rebuild the team when they couldn't do it the first time around??

Nothing wrong with shopping them, their return could be massive for re-build. However, we don't want Mark Shapiro in charge of it as he'll screw it up. Come on Rogers, bring in baseball people who know how to WIN. Not corporate suits.

@neptuneisbleeding

Ай бұрын

Get rid of Shatkins FIRST. I DONT WANT THEM ANYWHERE NEAR A REBUILD.

Kikuchi , Gausmann, Bo + Vladdy, even Springer gone would bring a rebuildable haul for the jays, and compete next year.

@mcfarlac1

Ай бұрын

Agree with all of this, but I don’t think Springer would draw much trade interest given his last 1.3 seasons

Season still early, u guys believe everything u hear

did you see today's game . 2 hit's against the worst team in baseball. which makes us the worst team in baseball

Good get em both out and reload the farm . Get the rebuild going with the Buffalo Boys ! Time for the dog and pony show they bring can go . Not hitting their potential , running out ground balls , watching their hits instead of running . Base running mistakes / errors/ bad defensive on both of them Nick both of these guys are going to, neither are staying wait and see Peter this will be a complete rebuild “Full” Players at end of contracts are being dealt for value while they can Vlad has turned into the singles hitter now lol not the Vlad of old

Trade away these guys and start opening up slots for Buffalo guys. Why wait? What do we think is going to happen? A magical elf is going to make them start hitting all of a sudden? The Jays aren’t going to go anywhere. Sell their contracts and let’s make some serious moves to salvage the season.

Just don't go to watch Blue Jays as Jays fan...time to push Rogers to fire these people...Shapiro, Atkin...and the coaching staffs ...Pete walker is the only coach that is safe to stay.

Bo to cubs for Morel + two prospects

@robertkidnley93

Ай бұрын

😂😂 nope more like madrigal and two prospect

This core will not work, get what you can while you can. If they drag their feet and these 2 have another crap year their value drops exponentially. I get they don’t want to tank their revenue this year and try to draw the blind Toronto fans to the park but in the long run this core is not a championship team here anyway

Ross will get another leftie in bp and another avg leftie at bat at the deadline

Trade both. Peter is right that they’re both complementary pieces, not cornerstones

You both wanted maanona gone

@JaysDigest

Ай бұрын

We never said that.

2 hits 0 runs, terrible, pathetic, embarrassing, boring, unacceptable.BEFORE selling,fire the entire awful front office

Vlad hasn’t performed in 3 years! Bo has picked up bad habits from Vlad. Like sauntering to first base and hitting into double plays, Their attitude is bad also. They say how hard they are working and that they are getting results now but it is the same thing especially from Vlad that we have been hearing for years now! Trade these under performing players while they still might have some value!

Makes sense to me, 4 years these guys have had, and seems like they are not leaders that Jays need, like they said they are good players/stars.....not superstars...and not leaders....the Jays need to realize its re-build time again

No they aren't. Lmfao

Good, they suck.

This team sucks.

trade vlad . Hes a clown and cancer on this team

@kofibabone725

Ай бұрын

L

It’s not crazy … Bo to the Dodgers for Lux and some prospects and Vlad to the Cubs for a haul. Kickuchi , Jansen and Garcia at the dead line. Bammm rebuild

Fake news

Trading Bo would great. He has no hustle and a bad attitude and can barely play his position.

Gotta get rid of atkins and Shapiro. They’re terribly bad, they did the same nonsense in Cleveland

Atkins sat around hoping for ohtani which he wasn’t coming let’s be real here. So he sat around while others made moves like Yankees and such and he sat around hoping for ohtani and no plan b whatsoever.