I thought I read the title wrong when I saw who posted it. Yall got me wanting to sell my Sigma 24-70 and upgrade. If the man who hates the 24-70 says this is his new favorite lens, it has to be legit.

@itsaprilespi

Жыл бұрын

The Sigma 24-70mm is SO heavy!

@jmackultra

Жыл бұрын

@@itsaprilespi it could definitely be lighter

I’ve been lax this week with the course, but I’ll get back to it today! I also have had the Canin version of this lens for the last almost a year, and while your course is helping me learn to use it better I have enjoyed using it for more composed outdoor images that are urban in nature, and that may include people or specific signage and shapes I want to capture.

This is the video i was waiting for, im going to get a sony a7iv and i didnt know about which lens to go by (I was thinking about 85mm and 16-35mm gm)

i love you pat kay, i hope i stay with you into the new year and many more to come. have a wonderful experience in this transition period and all of your life :)

my boi pat kay! love these vids

Actually, when you add in the different focal lengths the 24 70 covers at 2.8 it 's more cost effective than buying all the primes, add the convenience, weight and not changing lenses all the time. It reduces dust getting into the sensor and work flow.Using technology to your advantage is a no brainer.

since i have the 24-70 f2.8 G2 cant stop using it .... its my favorite overall lens... I wish Sony will come with a 24-135 GM f2.8 in the future if its possible

Was looking at 24-70 GM II, but couldn't justify the price compared to Tamron 28-75 G2...but I shoot on an a7RII. GM II is not much benefit on the older body (maybe a bit more sharpness and a bit more contrast) since burst rate isn't that high. Maybe I'm wrong tho since I haven't personally used the GM II, but based on YT vids/reviews

Exceptional review!

I bought this lens and really excited to bring to Tokyo with me. Going to rock it with my A7IV for amateur use - would be good to see your thoughts on 16-35mm! Keep up the good work!

Do you use a UV filter to protect the front element? If so, which one? I’m assuming it doesn’t compromise on image quality?

I have the 24-70mm gmii as well. Hands down most versatile lense out

I used this lens at a recent Sony event and it was lovely and soo light compared to the Sigma. I will definitely be getting this

Would love to see more of this lens here 😀

Guys, what should i do, stay with zoom lens kit and saving for GM or buy sigma first to upgrade the quality first then go to GM?

As an enthusiast, I picked this lens up as I wanted the fast 2.8 aperture and versatility to capture various photos of my family when we are out. It hasn't disappointed!

Nice review. Unfortunately I just bought the Sony Prime 50mm FE 1.2 GM so may have to wait a while.

I switched from APSC zu Full-Frame this year and buy me the A7IV with this new Sony 24-70 GM II and i didn´t regret my decision.

Have you compared it with 2070mm F4, if for a compact version while traveling?

I use the 16-35 gm for most of my videos. Do you think they will make a mark 2 of that lens?

@Agentlowe

Жыл бұрын

Feb 23

@Deathignator

Жыл бұрын

@@Agentlowe comment didn't age well

Hi Pat, really enjoy your videos and they have taught me a ton. Quick question - as an amateur photographer who normally shoots landscapes and portraits of family and very little video content, and soon to be the owner of a Sony A7 IV full frame, I am looking to invest in this 24-70 GMII but then I found the Tamron 28-75 F2.8 which is 2.5 times cheaper so which one do I choose?

@yongkwon4777

Жыл бұрын

Most people agree that if you're more focused on portrait get the tamron - 24mm isn't a very popular focal range for typical portraits (although I know, I watched pat's video on 24mm portraits and I totally agree with him too), you don't really get to use 24mm for portraits unless you're super intentional and creative with it. so get the tamron only if you're more focused on portraits. I would take 24-70 anyday if landscapes and streets are included. If budget is an issue, you should definitely consider the sigma Art too. I'm using that right now I have very little complaints, although, I highly wish to own the GM II :)

@mrmonday42

Жыл бұрын

My first Sony camera was the A73 with the Tamron 28-75mm. It's a great lens but the build quality is nowhere near GM build quality. The plastic on the Tamron gets shiny over time and the lens feels kind of cheap. I also was also constantly wishing it went to 24mm. The difference between 24mm and 28mm is bigger than I initially thought. When I upgraded to the A74 I sold the Tamron and purchased the 20mm G, 35mm GM, and 70-200mm GM2. I love this trio and it covers all my needs, but if the 24-70mm GM2 had been out when I purchased these, I would have gone with that instead of the 20mm G and 35mm GM.

Really love my 35-150! But damn it’s heavy for all day ;)…. Thinking about this lens just for weight savings

@rickt.8866

4 ай бұрын

I ended up downsizing my lens collection and sold my Tamron 35-150 & several other lenses for the Sony 70-200 gm2 / Sony 24-70 gm2 combo.

does the lens creep when upside down on a PD clip?

This lens pays for itself if you’re doing client work with it 💯

I am excited what they did with this lens. I am really hoping for a 16-35mm GM II, and then I will have to find the cash to pay for it lol. I love my 24mm GM, and my the thing my Tamron 28-75 lacks is that 24mm, which is my favorite focal length I find. Would love to one day grab that 24-70mm lens. Great video.

@Agentlowe

Жыл бұрын

16-35 GMII - Feb 2023

@PaulFeinberg

Жыл бұрын

@@Agentlowe would be cool!

have you tried the 20-70mm f4? would love to know your thoughts on this lens!

great review and video ! do you do any astrophotography/ nightscapes? i would like to purchase only one lens that can do many things in the day and also @ night /lowlight for now as im just beginning photography and on a budget for now. sony a7 iv with the lens reviewed in this video. can i still get some nice milkyway shots/ star photos with this lens and a sony a7iv with the right settings? 😊

@eskaytwo

Жыл бұрын

I don’t see why not. I only just got mine so haven’t had a chance to try at night yet. But I’ve done a lot of great nights and Astro on my 16-36gm at f2.8 so this should be similar, around iso 2000-4000 and shutter speed 10-15seconds. If you go more zoomed in you’ll want to use shorter shutter speed or you’ll get star trails. But this lens should be good for stars.

water resistance yes or no ple im asking for u sir

I am putting it on my wishlist. I am putting together a prime lens plan.

vs 70-200 f2.8mkii? is it better?

Dumb question but how do you know what focal length to use for like portraits and landscape and stuff? Or is it trial and error? 🤔 like 50mm lense for portraits and why or it dont matter and any can work?

@MotoMatt418

Жыл бұрын

50mm-85mm is the sweet spot range for portrait work with 85mm being the most popular. It has to do with the background separation and the way that focal length shapes the face. Landscape work begs for wider focal ranges such as 16mm-35mm to get more of the landscape within the frame, although you can use longer focal lengths to really focus in on something special if it’s desired.

I guess this answers my question after the meeting haha

Man, I’m torn between this, the Sigma 24-70 2.8 or…the 24mm 1.4 GM and a Sigma 85mm 1.4. I’ve owned the Sigma 24-70 before and I loved the roll off from the bokeh. But man it was heavy. Nothing wrong with that when handheld. But the 2.8 on the wider end didn’t wow me. I feel the 1.4 primes allow for a more stylised image. Mainly, I want a set up for product photography/videography, BTS stills, Reels and Promos for small, local business. The 24-70 offers incredible flexibility. That’s what I appreciated most. But, the look from the primes…ahhh. Butter. The minimum focus is great on this and the Sigma Zoom mind you. There’s certainly not a lack of choice these days.

I had originally purchased from BnH but FedE messed up and made my $2400 feel very regrettable. That was back in Sept 22. Fast forward to Jan 23 and bought the lens again thru a local camera shop here in HI and so far it’s been nothing short of amazing! I’m only using an A72 but I do own the 35, f1.8 & 20 f1.8 G, and I can still tell with my amateur eyes the difference in quality of GM to others below! Now I wish I had a body with a longer battery life but will have to wait till next year or sell an organ. Didn’t have this lens on my first trip to Korea last summer 22 but for Sakura 2023 in both Osaka n Seoul, I’m soo stoked to put dis lens through the ringer. Your video set me to get this lens over the Sigma Art and I was already sold on the size and weight but you said it, the price is real! Would be another trip but feel like the glass is more important than the body so bit the bullet again and no regrets… well I’d be lying about the price but I’m okay to live with that! Mahaloz!🌈🤙🏽

1IM TORN! Between the 16-35 or the 24-70 G Master Mark II I need to choose 1

Love your accent!!

Too bad it costs a kidney. Probably one of the best 24-70 out there, but it's just too expensive. Sigma is half the price, although bulkier and heavier of course. Thanks for the review!

what's the difference between the Sony A1, A7rv & A7siii for video. whats the best image

used to think 24 70 is boring... and now it's on my a1 all the times..... so true

Wish I could have this but its beyond my budget..

Wish I didn't have to sell one of my organs for this awesome lens. 😋✌

The best of the best is not just sharpness. Zooms are more about versatility. And the Tamron 28-200 is sharper than you it to be, has more range and is way cheaper. Don't get me wrong, I also use the 20mm G, 35mm GM and 100-400 GM...But you don't have to own always gear just because it's "newer"...

@francoismarc3

Жыл бұрын

This may be the case, but having the native Sony lens allows for Pat to take full advantage of the accessories on his A1 and possibly A7r5. Can't get 30 fps RAW burst on the A1 with a Tamron lens, unfortunately:(

@llStixxll

Жыл бұрын

Lack of 24mm is pretty significant for a lot of people. There are many compromises in the 28-200 that make people skip it for a 24-70. And shooting on a high end body like the a9 or a1 series will also make third party lenses far less appealing. The 28-200 or any other Tamron lens doesn’t enter the conversation with a 24-70 GMii in that context. Even features like focus breathing compensation or 8 stops of ibis in lower priced cameras start to impact peoples purchasing decision on lower end camera bodies. That’s without mentioning the IQ differences. I’ve owned the Tamron lenses, including the 28-200, but the performance difference on stacked sensors is night and day

@matthiasreinhardt8148

Жыл бұрын

@@llStixxll Yes, you are right. It always depends on the needs. For me personally, the perfect combination of lightweight and versatility is the Sony 16-35 pz (or Sony 20mm 1.8) and the Tamron 28-200. Especially because the Tamron also develops its strengths only from 35mm. But then up to 200mm. It has really really good performance. I make almost no videos, mostly photos. When I'm on the road and do not know what awaits me it is good to have more than just 70mm. Especially for landscape photography. In general: For me, a 24-70 alone is nothing special. It is neither fish nor fowl. Mostly Not wide enough. Mostly Not Long enough. My tip is: If you want to have shallow DOF or want take photos at night, take primes. If you want to take landscape photos, take a lens with more focal length and a fast Aperture is unimportant. All new lenses are sharp enough. So, Is Sonys new "standard Zoom" the best in its class? Sure! Is it 3 times more expensive than Tamrons new 28-70 G2. Sure! Is it 3 times better or is the difference "night and day"? Sure not.

@llStixxll

Жыл бұрын

@@matthiasreinhardt8148 your view of the value of each lens is based on your personal use case. There is a time and a place for a super zoom lens. The class of 28-70ish zooms is a cost play. If you shoot fast paced documentary/reportage or sports, the 24-70 GMii will absolutely be worth 3x more than a tamron lens. You can’t make a blanket statement about value when every use case is different. There is a reason these high end lenses are still selling in such high volumes. Not everybody shoots what you shoot and how you shoot. I have shot in fast paced high pressure environments with tamron and sigma glass. I have had to throw out once in a lifetime images because they missed focus. There are circumstances where 8/10 performance is unacceptable. Those experiences have steered me away from third party glass when it really matters most. Because a lens may not be worth 3x more money to you doesn’t speak to what others find value in

@matthiasreinhardt8148

Жыл бұрын

@@llStixxllJap, I totally agree. It's just for my case. I do not shoot sports. (certainly not in this Focalrange 😀) so the lack 30fps would not bother me. I do not sell or print my photos. But I like good quality in relation to price.. The advantage with a zoom is not to swap lenses. As I said, only for landscape, street and travel I found a 24-70 less attractive. I would never ever pay such a high price for that range to post it on social media 😀

The only reason why am watching this now is cuz i got mine today with a Sony A1 Camera. Very expensive that my partner hasn’t said a word since we walked into the house with the receipt on it.. The house is quiet tonight. 😝

The 20-70 F4 G is coming... it will be compact like the new 16-35 f4 G... i hope :P and will be 20mm not 24mm :P

@benldr

Жыл бұрын

Half the price too.

Is this an e Mount lens ?

@3rebornxd

Жыл бұрын

yes

Sigma 24-70 DG DN ART > Sony 24-70 GM I + GM II. #FACTS !

I love Sigma and bought the 24-70 thinking it would be as good as their primes. It wasn’t. I returned it and bought the GMii instead. It’s an incredible lens and gives such a pleasing image. It really is comparable to shooting with a bunch of 2.8 primes.

@Slicktune

Жыл бұрын

Do you still feel the same? I was able to snag the Sony 24-70GM ii for $1600 + tax & shipping = $1727. It arrives later today I hope it's worth it, it was an open box. I hope I don't regret it, had the 24 f1.4 but didn't see myself using it much so I'm selling it to make up for the purchase I made on the 24-70. I'd love to hear your feed back.... anxiously waiting on the lens. Ps I also own the 55 f1.8 + 85 F1.8

@RandumbTech

Жыл бұрын

@@Slicktune Absolutely still feel the same about this lens! Although I did just purchase the Tamron 28-200 because I found I needed a bit more reach for everyday shots. You will love the lens!

@Slicktune

Жыл бұрын

@@RandumbTech thank you, still anxiously waiting of course on day of delivery it would take this long to get delivered lol

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It's not parfocal. This 100% rules it out for video.

isnt the sigma 24-70mm 2.8 art at $1,000 literally the same quality as this? Just that this one is obviously slightly better especially in terms of design. There's also the 24-70mm f2.8 G master, which is $1,600 and according to a few reviews is on par with the II. Obv with the II being a bit better but the price range....

@RandumbTech

Жыл бұрын

The Sigma is not nearly as sharp in the corners wide open. And the Sony performs much better with stabilization and AF. If it’s just stills, the Sigma is more than enough, but if hybrid, the Sony is worth the added expense.

@poti732

Жыл бұрын

@@RandumbTech even if it is the normal G master 1st gen ?

loll

Yes and it's very cheap