When I bought my RV the finance lady offered a warranty that cost 25% of what the RV cost. I feigned a shocked look and told her I wasn’t told the RV was so bad that it would cost that much to warranty and stood up to walk out. Her reaction was priceless. She stopped trying to add stuff on.

@marybourgeois5235

Жыл бұрын

Brad.... I'm borrowing that line!!!

@Tool0GT92

Жыл бұрын

Camping world wanted to sell me the 7 year warranty, I held out and got it for a third the price. Never say yes the first time.

@artymaj6

Жыл бұрын

@@Tool0GT92”Scamming World”

@Tool0GT92

Жыл бұрын

@Russ Stringer I actually had a good experience with them I think its location dependent

@artymaj6

Жыл бұрын

@@Tool0GT92 There are several lawsuits that say it is a business practice.

This is legit like having a family member in the RV business. Priceless

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Well I am your “Uncle Josh” after all 😉

I wish I could have seen this video a year ago. Camping World is a perfect example of an RV dealer that practices all these tactics. I did go through with my purchase, but I had to fight to get all the junk fees taken off. It was a terrible and stressful experience. I actually resent the fact that I went through with the purchase. I hope anyone planning on buying an RV watches this.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Sorry that was the case. Camping is supposed to just be easy

@FrigidNorthAk

5 ай бұрын

Good thing to know about camping world, have been keeping an eye on prices in Idaho on their website.

@Mi_Tony

5 ай бұрын

We have a camping world about 10 minutes away. I won’t even buy accessories from them.

@UrsulaEJames

4 күн бұрын

We looking at Camping World and $ 2000 is part of deal and listed as Just Camping package!

Not only do I have to worry about buying a poorly made rv I have to look out for junk fees and scaming tactics.

@dianedenham5259

Жыл бұрын

As with all products that you're buying.

@keitha.1888

Жыл бұрын

@Diane Denham 80k BMW you're in and out of warranty repairs in a couple of days. Rv's a couple of months at best.

@oldengineer1519

Жыл бұрын

@@keitha.1888 And BMW provides you with a loaner.

@keitha.1888

Жыл бұрын

@@oldengineer1519 BOOOOOOM...

@donchaput8278

Жыл бұрын

That's just called life. Welcome

Just purchased a White Hawk 29BH from Bish's (after visiting many other RV retailers) and found them to be totally honest with regard to fees. Yes, they wanted me to finance (who wouldn't) but when I told them it would be a cash sale, I still got the agreed upon great price. I drove over a 1200 miles and got the best deal ever. I was NOT going to pay the extra 2K for the walk thru fee at delivery at Camping World. Thank you Bish's for your honest business practices.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ross thank you so much for sharing this. I think it means a lot more coming straight from someone who's actually gone thru the experience!

@nia6849

Жыл бұрын

From experience Camping world is creepy. Watch out everyone.

@secrets2youth

Жыл бұрын

2here are you Josh? anywhere near southern California 😊

@fantastiqueberliotz1209

Жыл бұрын

Camping World is THE worst! 💩 I wouldn't buy a roll of toilet paper from that company. 🤮

@connielogsdon6212

Жыл бұрын

We have been through this the past month. They refused our "cash" and told us they HAD to charge us an additional $2000.00 for us to buy anything with cash. !!! How insane is that? Josh Thank you so much for all this information.

I don’t even own an RV of any sort and I’ve been hooked on this channel the past week since finding it. New favorite channel for sure

@JoshtheRVNerd

9 ай бұрын

Wow ty 🙏🏻

I don't know of anyone that "pulls back the curtains" like you do and "tell it like it is"! Thanks so must for educating the Nerd Herd.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I try. Ty

Thanks for the info. Another scam I've seen posted is the contract is written up for a different unit than the one the buyer agreed on. Wingman Wisdom just told the story of a couple that bought a $200K motorhome that got scammed this way. If you find a unit, take a photo of the VIN and make sure it matches the contract.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I’ve had clients buy elsewhere have that happen twice in Michigan in my career. Both times on Motorhomes

@sssophiesmom

Жыл бұрын

Wow!!!

Thank you Josh for all you do for us. Not only all the great RV stuff, but sometimes when I get tired of things in general, the news, etc. it's just great to tune into the Nerd, a friendly face and great disposition, plus lots of good information . Keep up the great work! A friend in Holland, Mi.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY Tom :)

We pick up our new fifth wheel from the dealer tomorrow. I just went through the paperwork and the only additional "fees" on our paperwork are the addons WE asked for. The hitch for my truck, the modifications to the unit (tankless water heater etc) and an extended service contract that goes beyond the manufacturers end date on theirs. The sales lady at our dealer asked for our budget, what we were looking for as far as features, length, weight etc. and when we asked for the out the door price, she had it in writing within 5 min from finance. The finance guy was straight and to the point, and at no time did we feel like they were pushing us into anything we didn't ask for. We're in Tulsa, OK and the dealer we used was Bob Hurley RV. They didn't waste any time trying to upsell us or push us into anything we didn't want to see. Great dealer.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I don’t even mind you mentioning someone else’s location here. I think this is nice to see

@jeffreybryson

Жыл бұрын

This is why you negotiate the out the door price. I don't care how you write it up. That's what I did when we bought our 2021 Alpha Wolf 26DBHL. I just wish I would've known how bad the service department was at this dealership for getting warranty work completed. It took months to finalize and some things were never pushed through warranty and then charged us diagnostic fees for these items, which we were not told would be done. They cut a tire down in the shop and expected us to pay for it. Nope. I don't care what your sign says and policy may be. We took pictures of it and no tire was down. It took another 6 weeks to get a matching tire. They forgot to put our tire cover on the spare and I didn't noticed until I got it home. I called to see if they ship it , which a tech said they found it, but it's never shown up. Never again with them.

@meistersonthemove

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshtheRVNerd I’m glad you don’t mind as that COMPLETELY slipped our mind commenting earlier. We love your content so keep up the excellent tips!

@skyegirl

10 ай бұрын

I’m glad you mentioned the name because that’s my hometown and I am a single woman and I know the first place I’m going to go shopping when I get ready to buy!

Could you do a video on safety and security measures RV owners can take? I've seen so many posts on RVs being vandalized, broken into, burlarized (inside and out (propane tanks, batteries, even sway bars)), and stolen. These things are happening right on people's property, at dealerships (waiting for service), in storage and campgrounds.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Might see what I can do..

@nia6849

Жыл бұрын

Location pls.

This is definitely new to me, thanks nerd!

Josh, I think this one of the best vids that you have done. A great service. I want to add that if you are being "strong armed" into purchases.....walk, if not run. ALSO report it to your State's Attorney Generals Office. I saw too much BS in my career of people being taken advantage of. I'm lucky that my Daughter was a Attorney for our State's Supreme Court. Contacting the State's Attorney General's Office was her recommendation for unfair business practices. One thing I have always done when buying a car from a dealer was make my offer " I have X amount of dollars, I HAVE to be out the door for that X amount of dollars". If my offer wasn't accepted initially, I walked. I had a couple of times when I would get a phone call the next day saying now they could do it.......I didn't go back, if I can't get the best price right off.....forget it. Also "sleeping on it" is one of the very best things you can do. Amazing how getting away from the dealer, a good meal, a "cooling off" period can clear the head and make it possible to make a unemotional decision. Great video....Thank you Unc Josh!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ty Richard. I hope the message spreads

A year after we bought our camper at Bish's Coldwater location I see this video. Good to know they practice what they preach. We made a tour of NW Ohio, Northern In, and southern MI and looked at several models. While we intended, and did pay cash, everywhere we went I asked for the OUT THE DOOR PRICE. When we got home, we thought about it a few days, called Bish back and gave a credit card deposit and asked for the amount we should make out the check for and that is what we paid. A year later we have many happy camping memories so far and that will continue when I retire next year

@JoshtheRVNerd

11 ай бұрын

Ty so much for sharing this!

Personally, I am a big fan of hidden junk fees, but then again, I enjoy a good colonoscopy. Now to my point: While I really haven't had a big issue with hidden fees, I have experienced enormous pressure to buy add on services, such as extended warranties (usually available for less elsewhere), paint packages, etc. Perhaps a video on these packages would be useful to your viewers

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

NEARLY spit my drink out reading this dude

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY for the suggestion at the end as well. Was considering something like that as well

Hey Josh, buyers can also be "pressured" into buying the extended contract, GAP insurance and other things. Not told it is required, but it is discussed and added to the contract which is brought to you be signed. When you see the total price and decide you don't want the extras, the finance people doubledown on selling the extra products to you. And in a moment of weakness you agree. The good thing is, there is a cancelation clause, but it has already been added to your loan which affects your term and payment. This happened to us at one of your Bish's dealers. Needless to say, we were not happy with the process, especially since we chose this dealer partly due to your videos. We are hoping to have a better experience with the service department.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

You’re spot on here And sadly.. it works on a LOT of people

@rogerspalding5673

Жыл бұрын

It's hard to get your money back once you've discovered that you've been swindled. It helps to have a mean, vicious lawyer who can threaten a lawsuit, and then back it up by alleging fraud in the inducement and treble damages. Filing a claim with your state's attorney general's consumer protection division doesn't hurt, either.

@steved9397

Жыл бұрын

As someone who finances a lot(tow trucks) the gap has saved me more than once it's one of 2 things I'll get that and if I can't work

@rosslarsen3702

Жыл бұрын

Okay, when you walk into the finance guy's office to buy a car, truck, or RV, just know they are the up sales guys. Just say no. Do your research before and decide if you need or want any of the extended warranty or services stuff. I got NO pressure on my purchase just this past Thursday. I paid cash and merely said, "not interested." You still have the power. But I guess being a crusty old fart, makes it easy for me to say NO. bahahaha

@1kenswee

Жыл бұрын

This happened to me on Monday! What can I do as a consumer to reverse these charges, for all these products? Do I have to contact a dealer, or each individual item? And how do I find out if I really need any of these?... Ken

In 1989 I worked at a Florida dealership and we had a book to go by it had a scale of pricing and color coded Green, White, and Red. Basically a motorhome could sell in the range of $35,000 up to $85,000. The RVs did not have price tags on them. Someone would ask how much is this 36 foot class A? I would have to go ask my boss. He would look at the book and he would give the highest price allotted in the book for that motorhome. Then the customer would have to come up with a counter-offer. Then I had to go back to my boss and he would counter-offer and say "If they balk at this price ask them how much would they pay and ask them to give you a check to show they are serious." I hated this practice but I was a dumb 24 year old and knew nothing. If the customer was a complete gullible person they take them to the cleaners. I sold one 21 foot class C to a man. It was the least expensive Class C on the market for the brand. It should have sold for $31,000 and they got him after down payment and trade in for $51,000. I had no idea. The man came back 6 months later to buy our 36 foot Class A and he was soooo upside down. He came up to me and said "You got me." I felt so bad because I had no idea until after the deal how much he got screwed over. BTW, when he had come to buy the Class A I had already moved to the parts and accessories department. At least I could price things honestly there. This is why if I was anywhere near MI I'd buy from Bish's.

@nia6849

Жыл бұрын

Very informative.

I'm so glad I found you. We are new shoppers and about to finance a travel trailer. We had to put a $1000 holding fee until bank gives us approval of loan amount and after detailing and such until we sign real contract. I left the building not feeling excited for this and staying up at 3am researching if this is a right buy. And your video solidified my thoughts. At 8am we are going to cancel our buy and not shop with them. Thank you for making this video.

@annwhale4418

Жыл бұрын

I have a “sleep on it” policy. An RV is NOT a NEED item so taking the time to do your research will save you in the long haul. Before buying our used trailer I looked at what the going price for that particular trailer was around the whole U.S. and averaged it out. I then took that number to the dealer as my final offer and I got it, saving us $7K. I gained a lot of respect from my husband that day.☺️ Never be afraid to walk away.

@tutttutt9558

3 ай бұрын

Never leave those snakes a deposit.

I love these videos! I appreciate your efforts to inform the buying public. Keep it up!

@JoshtheRVNerd

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Too Good..!! Leave It To "Josh The RV Nerd" To Prevent "The Sleaze From Invading RV's"..!!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I’m not perfect. We’re not perfect. But we try.

Josh, you and Bish's are golden. This stuff goes on in the car sales world, but I had no idea how bad it could be in the RV world. Thanks once again for you and your company's outstanding integrity.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

It goes on anywhere in the sales worlds I fear

Thank you for the education for customers on this! I worked in auto sales for several years and it's very similar. I walked away from a car purchase once because the dealer had "mandatory fees" on every vehicle, "you have to get the paint package and extended warranty, all the cars come with it here". I will pay more for the better value/experience and I actually tend to buy an extended warranty if the price is right!. When you are looking at the total picture, the cheapest is rarely the best and you'll get what you pay for. (Most people shop off price rather than value though)

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure I hope it helps

Josh I met you at the Kalispell Bish RV dealer a few weeks ago. I made a deal on the Artic Wolf 321 BH fifth wheel. The entire experience up to the point of signing the paperwork was great. Then the finance manager tried to sale me all the extend warranty BS. He even tried to sell me gap insurance on a 54K purchase with 20K trade in plus 9K cash down. There was no gap that needed insurances. Needles to say I got my down payment and trade in back and walked out. I’m currently shopping for the same RV at different dealers. It wax great meeting you and I truly like you are a stand up guy. It’s a-shame it ended this way. Keep up the great videos!

When I bought ours, I called about 10 different dealers. I asked them all for a purchase invoice. That way I could compare.

I was in Camping world buying a part. They were redoing their sales offices so they had tables out on the floor for rv sales. You could hear the guy selling this couple the under belly water proof spray and the camper spray lifetime wax LOL

Met car dealers that gave the gut feeling of, run as fast as you can. To me buying a car from many dealers ranks right up there with dental visits. Avoid it until there is no choice.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I don’t enjoy the buying experience either. My car is overdue for an update but I just don’t want to deal with it

People become sticker blind and human nature is to take the path of least resistance and avoid conflict.

@snake_king

Жыл бұрын

Great point!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Sad but true

@porkchop10

Жыл бұрын

That's not my human nature lol.

All good comments, but I wish more people understood the true cost of financing a depreciating asset for extended terms.

Your "TRUTH" on this subject is inspiring. I will take this knowledge to the negotiating table on our soon to be purchased travel trailer. Thank you Mr Winters, I would love to meet you in person.

@JoshtheRVNerd

9 ай бұрын

Glad to be of service

I wish we'd have seen this last October. The more I think about it, the more I know we got stung! Added on so much that the price jumped tremendously. Then they told us that they had to be the ones to winterize it, and charged us for it!! Thanks for the scoop, it will save someone alot of $$$$, and next time we buy a tt it will help us, too!

When we bought our RV we should have walked away. They charged us a prep fee. I questioned it and they said that when they get the RV from the manufacturer there is a lot that they have to finish. I had never seen that from any other dealer. I guess I really wanted that RV. In hindsight, I should have never signed on the line.

@tutttutt9558

3 ай бұрын

It’s pure profit for those shady dealers. Refuse to pay it.

Thank you for this. People need constant reminders of things like this.

When the salesman or especially finance manager asks “What do you want your payment to be?”after you ask for their best price, you should probably run as fast as you can. If the sign outside a used car dealership says “we tote the note”, run at the speed of light. Who benefits if you have to buy insurance that makes a payment if you can’t due to job loss? Hint, it’s not you, it’s the seller/finance company. If you are buying a new car, you can shop the protection plan or extended warranty across the Internet from another dealer before the 24-72 hour cancellation window expires. The manufacturer’s extended warranty price is negotiable and you can save a lot outside the finance manager’s office, or simply by relying on the vehicle’s manufacturer warranty and standard emissions warranty. Even with manufacturer financing, the rebate that you may receive for financing under the manufacture, a program will be likely be exceeded if you pay your loan off to completion at their higher rate. Line up your best financing before you walk in to the sales floor with a checkbook.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

This is all super fair

Nice to see the honesty!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I try!!

Awesome video! I've thought about becoming a rv buyers consultant. So many people just will not push back at all while negotiating. My mother could talk her bill at the grocery store down 20%! It is sad how many dealers are willing to take advantage of the goodness in most people! Thanks uncle Josh!

My Mom and I started paperwork on a Grand Design this weekend. The guy said "this is the price, these are the state taxes, and with the down payment, this is how much you will be financing." That was it. We still have to go back and go through the training session and pick it up, so hopefully everything continues the way it has so far.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Ай бұрын

as long as it stays that way!

Love this video, thanks for taking the time to make it!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Love all of your videos and we learned a lot. Wish more people would do this to help out the buyers or their KZread followers.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ty 🙏🏻

Is this dude gliding one 2 wheels. He's got no body sway and zero camera shake.. lol.great vid dude.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Ай бұрын

Would you believe I don't use a gimbal or anything? I'm 100% free-handing it

Same here wish I watched this video before I purchased my rv Good thing I didn’t pick up the TV yet because I’m taking all the warranty’s off

Thanks Josh, this whole video is gold. I took your advice and it gave me the confidence to not get pushed around by a dealer. And pushing back helped me save almost $1000! Passing a bit of that along for ya.

@JoshtheRVNerd

9 ай бұрын

Glad it helped! Ty so much for your kindness and generosity

@JoshtheRVNerd

9 ай бұрын

Mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review for the helping hand? Would be so appreciated

@DavidKitchin

9 ай бұрын

​@@JoshtheRVNerd​Sure thing, five of my finest stars for a fellow nerd.

Man I wish I would have seen this BEFORE we bought our RV.....37,000 went to 48,000 before I knew it... really did NOT know what we actual spent untill we got our first statement.....now we are so upside down in it I couldnt trade or sell it if we had too.....and now being disabled we were actually thinking on trading it on on something smaller with an auto leveling system..... smh. BUT as as always so proud of being part of the Nerd Herd!!! Keep the good info comming!

@lyfandeth

Жыл бұрын

Is a lender allowed to require insurance coverage, the way a home mortgage company is?

@timf6916

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@FERDABEERS

Жыл бұрын

Same some of the things seemed nice but we did say no to a lot of bullshit

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Man sorry to hear it Mike. Ty for being willing to share

@sssophiesmom

Жыл бұрын

​​@@lyfandeth absolutely yes. The lender has to make sure their RV is covered if damaged/totalled. Because it really is theirs not yours until you have paid in full. If you dont keep it insured you would be in default of your loan and could have insurance force placed and cost added to your loan and that insurance will not payout to you it would payout to lender. That being said they typically cannot dictate who your insurer is. They can have things like min insured amounts/type of coverage and maximum deductibles. If you have a loan you absolutely need insurance on your rv. To add clarity this doesnt mean GAP. I am talkimg about collision and comprehensive insurance.

You are the best Josh. Thanks again for being transparent about this subject.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Thank you sir for posting this video. You are truly a man I respect.

THANK YOU! I really appreciate this info.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Very, very interesting. I've heard of these add-on costs, but haven't seen the details. I remember years ago my dad walked away from buying a car he wanted when they added several fees that he wasn't prepared for and thought was bs.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Good for him

This video s/b required watching for ANYONE buying a RV or vehicle!!!!! GREAT WORK Josh!!!🥳🙌🏼

Thanks for sharing Josh! I just went to the RV show and it was funny listening to the salesman lie to me, so I pumped him up and lead him on and then told him the deal is off and I walked away. That was gratifying!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

It’s unfortunate you were out into that position May I ask what was said to you?

Suze Orman would say "If you need to finance something more than 3 years, YOU CAN"T AFFORD IT". (Except house). And many people end up financing a nightmare.

@BrittMFH

Жыл бұрын

Suze was my financial guru. I retired early with no debt. She's the best! 😻👍

@mattdagger1480

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily true and most of the time doing it that way your credit would suffer long term (5 years) from doing that. I’ve never had any issues financing stuff for long periods with EXTREMELY low interest rates due to my credit score and credit history. For shorter term loans like you suggest sub 3 years, with my history and score I’ve never been quoted a interest rate higher than 3% on any purchase. To me it’s worth the small price of admission to further build my credit vs paying it in full immediately even tho most time I could. I understand what your saying but it’s not always the right choice to pay in full if you ever wanna have a super high score. Sucks I admit but it’s the world we live in and one day an emergency may arrive where we need to finance and if your credit history sucks you’ll have to take a high interest rate regardless because you didn’t play the system before hand. To each their own that’s just my outlook.

@BrittMFH

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdagger1480 I don't finance ANYTHING. I don't care what my credit score is. You're always ahead when you don't pay interest.

@tallcedars2310

Жыл бұрын

@@BrittMFH So true!!

@rotwiler7674

3 ай бұрын

I always walk in to any dealer(car, rv) and say, how much it this, I don't want anything else, no extra warranty, no gap, no paint protection, etching, lojack etc. Every single dealer as soon as I get to financing, the person goes through the entire list of add on crap, then acts rude when I continue to say no. One place I seen a Ram truck, 29k miles, 18k, was good deal. Called, said I was coming to see it 2 hours away, 30 mins before I got there, they changed price to 22k, when I seen that. I found a online ad they forgot to change. So they honored the 18k but wouldn't let me use the $150 off coupon they text me. After I bought it, I left review then they starting calling me to resolve issue. Also they came out(I have 810+ credit) nothing financed, own my home outright, quotes me 8% interest to finance. I said never-ending, my credit union will do it a 2.75%, then they came back with 2.5%, hate the scammy crap.

Love the info, I'll keep all of these in mind when we get us a trailer

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Hope you don’t encounter the stuff I talk about here

Thanks Josh I’ve been researching to find the best for me. This world has been foreign to me and I’m gaining so much knowledge. Thanks for your help

@JoshtheRVNerd

3 ай бұрын

It's our pleasure. Glad to be of service :)

Thanks Nerd. Great information. I appreciate your candid videos

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Thank you ❤️, I love that you are educating people on buying an RV from a reputable company. They love to prey on the vulnerable.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY Debra. Won't claim that either I nor Bish's are perfect but I'd like to think it's not for a lack of trying

As always great information. What you said goes for vehicle purchases. People need to research, research, research. A friend of ours quit a fairy large RV dealership because of their unethical practices. Josh if we were to purchase a new RV it would be from Bish’s in Texas, I’d be armed with all the information that I needed before we went. Josh there’s an old saying don’t trust anyone any further that you can physically throw them🙂

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Yeah well I am Not strong enough to throw anybody so…

@crazydoglady5

Жыл бұрын

There is a Bish's in Texas? where at?

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

@@crazydoglady5 Longview! See here: www.bishs.com/longview-texas

@crazydoglady5

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshtheRVNerd oh my..thats not that far from me...cool.

Thank you Josh! I really appreciate all that you share and the work / effort that you put in to every video.

@JoshtheRVNerd

10 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Just starting this journey again, first time was over 20 years ago. None of those issues when I purchased my Weekend Warrior but things change and I am glad that you bring this up. I’ll be prepared a bit better I’m sure!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Hope my little channel here can help!!

Absolutely 💯 agree uncle Josh I have several dealers in my town and I would still drive 8+ hours to cw Michigan versus dealing with junk fees

@tallcedars2310

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love walking away with a grin knowing you will save money at a dealer of your choice.

Definitely go in prepared for battle. We bought ours last year and what Josh said is true.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I wish this wasn’t good advice but.. you’re not wrong

Thanks for plainly explaining all of this. I know these tactics are a regular part of some large dealer's sales plan. They give the industry a bad reputation.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

_"They give the industry a bad reputation."_ It's reason #37 people feel they need to borderline treat their salesperson like trash. There are, without a doubt, some shady salespeople out there. Being real - we try to weed them out but I'm sure there's a few even on the BIsh's team now. It's not always easy to identify. But there are also good people out there -- not just the folks at Bish's but some very decent salespeople and organizations in general in the industry as well. I've met plenty of them.

Thank Josh! This is great information.

Josh, I am so happy and thankful to hear you call out dealerships that encourage people to take out a 10-12 year loan on an RV that will be worth virtually nothing long before they even pay off their loan👍👍👍

@andystewart1580

Жыл бұрын

10-12 years? That's old. I just was offered a 20-year note on a 2023 Alliance Avenue for 98k with 9.9%

My wife & I was looking at a Jayco 264BH a couple weeks ago. One of our local dealers had it for 27,995. They told my wife via text they would knock $500 off as a discount. Then a day later said they would knock another $500 off as a special. And said they couldn't go lower because they just got it. Less than 5 minutes after she told me. I checked the dealer site and they had already marked it down that $1k. Clearly showing he was blowing smoke. Then after all their "extra" fees it went from 26,995 to around 32,500. Needless to say. We didn't get it. I don't like liars!!!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Glanced.. we have those new starting around 24... and don't do fees ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think that Josh should be a must see video before anyone buys an RV. Why, because I have never heard a salesperson yet discuss weight. Their answer to the customer is always "oh yes that vehicle is plenty big enough", Just to make the sale, their not worried about tthe customers safety. Thank you Josh.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Man I try. Ty

Good on ya Josh. Speaking the truth. When it comes to upcharge shenanigans, if your spidey-sense is tingling (ie: you are feeling the pressure, especially in the finance office), always remember you get to decide what you are willing to pay for. If you aren't willing to pay for it, tell them that point blank. If they tell you its not negotiable tell them they are correct, it is not negotiable to you either, thank them for their time and move on to your next dealer of choice.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I love the spidey sense reference. It's truly perfect. If it doesn't smell right.. then it's not right for you

Josh, you're right on again! You've got to play attention all along the way. So we traveled three states away to get the exact model travel trailer we were looking for. They damaged the underbelly installing the inverter for our solar (left a gaping hole). It took them three times to try to install it.(putting us up in a hotel several nights) They didn't even know we needed it😢 not to mention others issues, but the kicker was when we received our paperwork to register our trailer it showed we had paid $0. Actually we had paid cash in full. That finance manager was very disappointed we weren't financing, even trying to sell us on it. The store manager was great paying out on all the repairs for the lousy work his employees did. Just too bad he needed to.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

At least they stepped up to fix the mistake on the camper. Sorry you had that experience overall of course

@angiebieber2581

Жыл бұрын

May I ask who this dealership was? I'm about to make a purchase and I am not feeling at peace with it. Thanks.

@charlenecastaldo3602

Жыл бұрын

@@angiebieber2581 This was outside of Waco, TX. The General Manager was great to step up and take care of repairs. It was a new location in 2021 when the manufacturers were throwing things together as quickly as they could and it was difficult to find good, knowledgeable mechanics.

@angiebieber2581

Жыл бұрын

@@charlenecastaldo3602 Ok. Thank you. It seems you don't want to give the Company's name, or dealership name, and I respect that. Happy camping!

@charlenecastaldo3602

Жыл бұрын

@@angiebieber2581 Only because the GM stepped up to take care of things. It was not CW. If you're looking in Texas or have a guess, ask and I'll tell you if it was or wasn't them. Have you had problems, too? Or just trying to prevent them?

Thank you. I know we have been ripped off. But couldn't get it thru my husbands head. I lost $5200.00 on that deal. That's one reason I hesitate buying again.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that

You are an incredible goofball Strike those last two words You are incredible, simply incredible! I so appreciate your videos and if a Bish dealership was close...it would be the first and last place I'd go to buy

@JoshtheRVNerd

3 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you!

Great video Josh! Sad to say none of the points you brought up surprised me, but I've been around several decades. It's been buyer beware for a very long time. What does surprise me, is that we don't arm ourselves with knowledge to be aware of, well, scammers. Your video is spot on with tactics used on buyers. This topic couldn't be any more relevant today and is literally worth it's weight in gold for anyone who can "see" when they are buying. I was shocked at the example you gave of an rv priced at $14k, had a finally cost of $37K! I especially liked that you included the point about walking away from places that attempt "add-ons." There are so many valuable outlets like Bish's that can save buyers A LOT of money and troubles down the line. I must say, it's worth travelling to buy an rv from you. Thank you for this in depth video on scam tactics!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I just hope this helps people avoid getting burned

Josh..... My wife and i would like to thank you for all the information you have taught us through the years through these videos. We just bought a new camper from Bish's in Lincoln Nebraska.( we live 3 hours away) And it was one of the funnest experiences we've ever had while spending a B#tt load of money LOL we went in knowledgeable of what we were buying and what we wanted !! But to tell the truth the guys at Lincoln was a pleasure to work with ! . The salesman and the Money guy was just fantastic to work with ! no nonsense no high pressure AND NO unseen numbers ! . Thank you Josh for all you do !!!!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

That Nebraska team is super fun out there. Ty for sharing this. Please make sure you leave that store a google review!!

I’ve mentioned it before, my biggest mistake was not buying from you. I should of drove East to Indiana not west to Missouri. Besides being fair, I believe you have knowledge on Embers or would of admitted you had to look it up. Flat windows are not an upgrade, but a supply shortage fill. I still steam about that.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that. I hope you’re able to enjoy your rv regardless though

@mgysgtk8835

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshtheRVNerd we do now enjoy, but we hated our purchase at first. Once i got through the hype by KZread and salespeople lies and got great info after contacting Battle Born,MasterVolt and Go Power i am now very happy after learning about the solar system abilities. Once i learned the systems from their manufacturer people i have had my Ember running for weeks at my farm disconnected from solar only. I don’t get the short term investment by sales of; tell them what they want to hear to make a sale. Yes they make a sale, but after i went home and had many failures until i learned the truth of the capabilities, they have to know me or other customers will never set foot on their property again. And i sure not going to recommend them.

Thank you for looking out for people in the community

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I try thank you

The thing that has driven me nuts for years are the "mandatory options". If it's "Mandatory", it's not an "Option"!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Oh preacher brother Preach 🙌🏻

@bobwaldron420

Жыл бұрын

@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV I realize that this is every manufacturer, not the dealer. Near as I can figure, it's a way to get you in the door with a lower MSRP, then wham, "mandatory options."

Very informative video. Thanks

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Very welcome!

#1 stay away from Camping World!

Great advice. Thanks for sharing. Love your talks.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

Thank you for this Great heads-up information! 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

As someone who sold cars for years. (I’m out of the business now.) I LOVE YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! YOU ARE INCREDIBLE GOT SHARING THIS KNOWLEDGE! #nerdherd

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I try man. I/we aren't perfect. But I try

Love you're posts about campers.. BUT this one frosted me. Better check out your Iowa store before posting anything like this again. We drove 4 hrs. last August, bought a BEAUTIFUL camper BUT we're STILL battling... First our credit score got slammed when they processed the loan TWICE so we had TWO loan accounts entered... 3 months to get fixed, THEN got letter from Illinois Dept of Revenue that the taxes were incorrect and we owed more, PLUS penalties!! A month now of assurances it will be fixed - IL says not done, more owed AND NOW cannot get return calls. Better stick with reveiwing campers cuz Iowa just screwed your rep.

@BrittMFH

Жыл бұрын

He's not so much pushing Bish's but giving us advice for buying anywhere. Not to say I don't sympathize with your situation.... That s*cks.

@nealblue6413

Жыл бұрын

@@BrittMFH But, he did say that Bish's does not do shady practices.

@BrittMFH

Жыл бұрын

@@nealblue6413 I know he did. I'm just saying, give him a break. He's trying to help us. Listen to the big picture.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

For clarity - this doesn’t sound like a case of fees as discussed in the video. You’re describing a significant clerical error - something different entirely. Have you contacted customersupport@bishs.com? They may be a good contact for you

@chrissimpson4258

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks for the suggestion. I was looking for some kind of corporate contact but couldn't find it... As always you've come through with useful info! Thanks!

Thanks Josh! I really appreciate the information you give. I've learned a lot from watching your videos.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY Buddy

I told them I wasn't paying 995.00 dealer service fees. So, the dropped the price of the RV 995.00 and added them back in. I almost fell out of the chair laughing.

@JoshtheRVNerd

7 ай бұрын

Wow

Josh, thank you so much for all the insight. This will certainly be good to know when I buy my first RV.

Had a Regional Manager for a National dealer yell at me as I’m walking out because…. “$6,000 is what all dealers charge as dealer fees” My response “only the unethical ones”. The $6000 was just listed as dealer fees. Other fees were Destination fee of $2,100, Prep fee $995, Battery adjustment fee $ 295.😂 still lead acid battery Admin Fee $499 Almost $10,000 in extras, and they tried this with a straight face. Like they were serious. And would not remove them. This was in central Florida beginning of July.

@JoshtheRVNerd

10 ай бұрын

Wow.. just wow

@HighCrimesMisdemeanors

3 ай бұрын

I would just laugh in their face. That is just outrageous. Who agrees to be ripped off like that?

Very informative. Thank you Josh!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Hope it helps, Scott!

Your videos are always very informative. Even my son (not Rver, not buying) loves your videos. Because of you I drove 5 hours to buy my Artic Fox 990 at Bish's. Thank you

@JoshtheRVNerd

11 ай бұрын

That is awesome! Ty

Once in a while an excellent video is made on KZread. This one of those videos. Super job, Josh.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Wow.. TY Edward. Very kind !:)

Excellent, Uncle Josh! Brad (below) is right on: when in doubt, there is great power in walkiung away!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

There's always another one!

More excellent advice! Thank you!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

Josh you are awesome thank you for sharing this important information. These details will be very helpful when I decide to purchase my first RV. Also, I love your humor it’s incredible and very funny. Please keep making these videos and do what you do so well! Thanks!!!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Great informative video! Keep them coming.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

👍🏻

Thanks for the shooting straight, Josh. Just thinking about this leaves me feeling anxious.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I try Mike. Ty

Great advice. 40 year legal admin; every time we finished w/a client we sent them finals to "KEEP SAFE FOR YOU RECORDS". Inevitably, yrs later they'd call back, "do you have a copy, can't find mine". GRRRRrrrrr!!!! 😑

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Well said!

I learn so much from your videos! Thank you for what you do!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

Josh you have done it again and provided information that I definitely will need when I go shopping for my next rv. Ever since seeing you the first time with rv info I knew Bish’s RV would be who I will turn to as my dealership of choice! You may not currently be close to where u reside, but it will definitely be worth the drive for the best outcome! 🎉. Thank you again and my rv purchase notebook is getting thicker by the day and it is greatly appreciated because I know it will be the best purchase ever!!

@JoshtheRVNerd

9 ай бұрын

Man I sure try. TY so much. Would you mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review

Great info!!!!! Keep it up Josh!💞

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY Michele!

Great video! Thanks as my daughter is going out today to look at them...its a cut throat bussness for sure, at some dealerships..snakes..

@JoshtheRVNerd

3 ай бұрын

Some good places too but some you really need to watch

To Josh. I have watched a lot of your videos. You are great guy for doing this for the people out there. I hope you get he customers. You deserve it.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ty John! I think it’s awesome. I work for a place that encourages this kind of information sharing.

Camping world comes to mind. You have to fill out paperwork before you can even look. You can only get to the RVs by going through the office first. You can't just look before hand they have huge fences around all of them.

I had a dealer tried to do that to me but I had the salesman text the information to me so took that to sales manager and they finally honoured the deal

@JoshtheRVNerd

Ай бұрын

Good for you

I do appreciate your honesty!

@JoshtheRVNerd

9 ай бұрын

I try

Mr... You make me look smart lol of course only after watching the tremendous information you provide to we the people. Bless you