Dooku: "Good. Twice the effort, half the rewards"

@chezux979

9 күн бұрын

How can you do this? This is outrageous. It’s unfair.

@tripporquit75

8 күн бұрын

Lol

@dan1282

7 күн бұрын

This isn't where the fun begins.

Twice the effort, half the rewards.

@jvgoat6725

9 күн бұрын

That’s the CG way

@yachtman87

9 күн бұрын

@@BigBrainTrips apes together strong

@nonono9194

9 күн бұрын

My credit card limit has doubled since the last time we met

@Hailstone_stuff67

9 күн бұрын

Ultimate downfall of capital games has begun?

@gunnerdown

9 күн бұрын

It’s much more fun at least

I move for a vote of no confidence

@infantry31st95

9 күн бұрын

😂

@guywaugh7110

8 күн бұрын

​​@@infantry31st95should sue them for hate crime i recon 😂

It's like opening up a Christmas present and it's a bill

@shanivl3668

9 күн бұрын

A bill for which you have to physically go to a specific location to pay in cash.

@tungle1991

9 күн бұрын

Yikes

@ronroy8784

9 күн бұрын

Ouch😂😂

@Higglewoggle

9 күн бұрын

😭

My guild went from the 4th box to not even being close to the first one

@soulless435

9 күн бұрын

Same!

@darththespian4856

9 күн бұрын

Yep

@fbezsw

9 күн бұрын

same here bro!

@SunriderSayajin

9 күн бұрын

Same bro... This sucks

@auzor5900

9 күн бұрын

We went from 5th box to seemingly nothing.. until finally, barely first box. Which is.. not worth it due to the lack of Type 2 vs 500 Type 3, so back to Endor we go.

A: The gap between the 22.5m crate and the 67.5m crate is fk'ing ridiculous and needs to be addressed and altered B: If CG is gonna be this gatekeeping on a new raid, we at least need to be able to still get like half the mk3's doing the old raid C: If CG "fixes" B2, we riot!

@n1c3s43

9 күн бұрын

we were running the old raid and got Mk3 lol

@okthatismyname0

9 күн бұрын

@@n1c3s43 thats only for the last time the next time you do that raid you will not receive mk3

@R3M073

9 күн бұрын

@@n1c3s43 Well if Endor was already running when the new raid launched, then yeah that's how it works...If not, then enjoy your miracle and I hate you ;)

@darthrevan9858

9 күн бұрын

​@@R3M073😂😂, I heartily agree 😂

@taywoodz

9 күн бұрын

Dope to see another LoL fan invested in this game, all love to ya. 💯

I remember that defense of dathomir gave us zetas

@Hitmanzay

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@terranghost5432

9 күн бұрын

They still haven't even compensated for all those lost zetas.

@burtfurt1995

9 күн бұрын

Are we surprised by anything by a company that brought us LOTR: HOME?

@maxfield3106

9 күн бұрын

where is our rewards

@yachtman87

9 күн бұрын

@@DankIdeals pepperage farm remembers

The fact that 2 of the main teams for this raid are newer than 2 months tells you everything about it

@philipp17802

8 күн бұрын

and one is a conquest character which will be farmed in what? 3 years if you didn’t get her from the start. Yeah cool

Yeah, I really hope this gets addressed. This raid is so whale focused and it’s horrible.

@bluu7964

9 күн бұрын

the new meta, all old farms are obsolete, only marquees count, and become valueless after acceleration

@shawnm1902

8 күн бұрын

Have to follow the flow of the game. GA/TW shifts every 3 months, raid every 12. They're only introducing a handful of characters annually roughly 1 per month, sometimes less or more depending on release cycle. Shifting all crystal gains into the new marquee/weekly shop keeps pace. TB with bonus planets is more than enough to supply them. Just have to get in pattern.

@alextitanfinder1885

8 күн бұрын

@@shawnm1902 "1 per month" literally 4 gungans in what? 1 month time? padawan obi wan and new qgj the same, so we should be done for 6 month to u.... oh wait, they announced more characters in the upcoming months, i guess for the whole next year we get 0 new characters, if we follow ur logic lmao.... also if u think TB crystals income is enough to keep up this whaling process, idk what u smoked lol

@steveh84

8 күн бұрын

​​@@shawnm1902not that easy for f2p unless you have no life outside of this game. And they've released loads of new characters in the last couple of months alone! 🤦🏻‍♂️

@bivyb6249

7 күн бұрын

​@@shawnm1902nothing you said is correct.

My guild got abosolutely wrecked by this raid. We went from 3rd crate to no crate, it’s actually insane…

@martontruszek9464

9 күн бұрын

Same It's insane

@NicolasGarel1201

8 күн бұрын

same here

@emperorrattiuslloydfathom

8 күн бұрын

Same for us!

Considering they allowed characters like moff Gideon and shore trooper on endor they couldve thrown dooku and journey guide padme in this raid to make it even just a little more accessible

@darththespian4856

9 күн бұрын

High key agree, I really think the idea of trying to keep it canon is a bs excuse to force whaling behavior

@mastermichael0751

8 күн бұрын

Or even grievous and jka

@alextitanfinder1885

8 күн бұрын

@@darththespian4856 also i didnt see mace windu, luminara and more "trash" jedi, fighting droids on naboo, so the canon excuse is literally out of discussion

For Endor we got mk3 4000. Now we got 1500 only... 😵‍💫

@eddolateralusio

9 күн бұрын

Same for us

@osets2117

9 күн бұрын

Same for my guild

@non7top

8 күн бұрын

Same

@rodwinter5748

8 күн бұрын

Exactly the same for us

@patriksliva961

8 күн бұрын

Yep... same.

The fact they didn't have jar jar come back before releasing the new raid is kind of scummy

Can we talk about how this is counter intuitive to attracting a new playerbase? They can't even hit first crate

@ronaldnixon8226

9 күн бұрын

New players aren't doing this raid

@Tyrantofesp

9 күн бұрын

They could do endor? What is your point?​@@ronaldnixon8226

@herculesmwp7983

9 күн бұрын

90% of new players are going to get stuck on the sith raid. So it's not really for them

@ScottPress

9 күн бұрын

So build raid teams. Dark side team and GR Jedi are two solid raid teams for Naboo and accessible to all players, no legendaries or conquest toons required.

@osets2117

9 күн бұрын

​@herculesmwp7983 which is a problem, new players want to play the new stuff and they should be able to

Leia was somewhat farmable by the wider playerbase for Endor. Jabba was farmable for Krayt. The problem for this raid is Jar Jar is a rotation character. Quadme team isn't fully farmable yet and CG want to nerf the B2 team.

@osets2117

9 күн бұрын

Potentially Nerf the B2 team

@shawnm1902

8 күн бұрын

Really doubt that's going to happen. It's not as good at r5 and below and they're trying to force people to invest. If they cut it off, people will just ignore the separatist faction as a whole, as they have been for years.

@philipp17802

8 күн бұрын

Quadme is a fcking conquest character. We should not build raid in conquest characters

New Raid... "I've been looking forward to this!" Half the loot..loses both hands, visibly confused, terrified......dies. 😂😂

Yeah my guild just doesn’t have enough people with good enough teams, it’s sad because I really like the road and theme as well as the prequels

It's so strange to me. The original 3 raids had absolutely no character restrictions, they just designed them in such a way that you need specific kinds of teams to do well in them. Then the Krayt dragon raid came out and you were restricted but to specific tags, not specific characters. You could use all hutt cartel, all mandalorians, all old republic, all jawas and all tuskens. Then came endor, and they restricted it to only specific characters who would/could have been there in-lore, but I assumed that this was due to the fact that they had to make a new endor version of each character so they didn't want to put the effort into making a speeder kit for every single rebel Now we have naboo, and they decided to keep the specific character restrictions and went so hard with it that the characters you need to use are either brand new and not easily accessible to F2P players, or they are characters that are so old and bad that only veteran players will have geared them up. I could easily gear up enough characters to have 2-3 good teams for this raid, but by the time I do it'll be almost time to move onto the next one and I'll be kicking myself for having relic'd maul, sidious, luminara, kit fisto and consular because I just won't find any use for them elsewhere. And even if I did consider those characters to be a worthwhile investment I won't make the difference for my guild being able to do well in this raid. I'd have to convince many other guild members to also invest in them and that's just not gonna happen.

@nucphyschem1

8 күн бұрын

maul and sidious at least are GL requirements so at least they move you towards a GL but yeah overall the characters here are complete trash.

Whats crazy is that they could fix or at least ALEIVATE the problem in many ways. 1. As mentioned in the video, just make the dang thing a bit easier. Enemies have less health, change up the commander modifiers, make them not heal so dang much, something 2. Add more characters...... Do they think we would feel betrayed if they did this? Like i wouldn tbe upset if they added in characters that werent "there" just to help fix the problem. We all know Plo Koon or Lumi wasn't fighting in the dang battle for naboo, whats to hurt adding OG ahsoka, GK, GAS, or something of the sort? 3. Up the rewards per box. Krayt came out about 16 months ago.....and we are still on the same amount of raid currency income structure. Its going to be a constant problem for guild of all sizes. Guilds spend months ant months getting to a higher box (possibly max box), just to get pushed back several guild boxes in 8-9 months. Would it be a crime to just add a bit more get 3, or flat out have 1 aeromag at box 1, 2 at box 3, 5 at max crate? I dont think that will break the economy... And this is coming from a person who scored 9.1mil on raid attempt 1, but who is in a guild that dropped from 424mil endor box to 130 naboo box.

It wouldnt feel nearly as bad if we received the rewards were used to, but missed out on some new currency. This is one of the biggest problems with this raid format. The old format just added rewards so it always felt good

I think this raid sucks ass. I even bought the lightspeed bundles to stand a chance and my scores suck. I spent 2 hours trying to get the max score possible and I couldn't get anything close to the last raid. If I hadn't bought the lightspeed bundles I wouldn't have been able to get almost any rewards at all. Their strategy of forcing you to pay money to be able to participate in the new raids that rotate every 6 months is quickly turning me off from the game and I've played it daily for almost 4 years now.

@aarongoodman6824

8 күн бұрын

Wtf Swany, you’re still here and you play swgoh. This is a pleasant surprise

From a late game player perspective - if a raid is only going to last 7,8,9 months then all the required units NEED to be readily available day 1 of launch. No exceptions. The situation with Jar Jar and the QA team is frankly ridiculous and more noise needs to be made about it.

@steveh84

8 күн бұрын

Almost makes it pointless trying to gear up some of the units. May as well skip and keep your focus on whatever else you're gearing up. This raid is a joke.

@Boomer2k6

8 күн бұрын

​@@steveh84 That's what I'm doing tbh I can't get KAM so that removes the KB team as an option I can't get Quamidala so that removes that team as an option Jar Jar isn't coming back until August so that team is non-functional except at low level until then Which leaves the Lumi and Seperatist teams, which I've already farmed, so tbh, once Jar Jar's back, that's all the farming I'm doing for this raid, I'll be scoring over 2M and that's all I need to do to meet guild targets so not pushing any further, completely disincentivised me to farm any tough toons. I may still get KB for BKM but not going to gear anything else unless aiming for requirement

@steveh84

8 күн бұрын

@@Boomer2k6 I gave up on KAM years ago. My guild took a while to be able to actually make good progress in the light side Geo TB so unlocked him late. Then the RotE TB came so we never went back to that Geo TB. There's better characters to spend guild currency on, he's just not worth it.

@jayrock248

7 күн бұрын

@@steveh84 yep, by the time u get and gear them up the new raid be incoming

Don't forget the big loss on personnal rewards too. I went from 1.6 million personnal rewards box, to *nothing*.

The LSB packs are a guaranteed money maker like those crystal and relic packs. So strange they don’t opt to keep them in the store until you buy them (or don’t, but still have them there).

@eatmorvegetal3444

9 күн бұрын

FOMO makes them more money, I guess.

@garagegames2555

8 күн бұрын

@@eatmorvegetal3444This is the answer. How much you wanna bet the Jedi LSB will return before they tune the raid?

Dear CG: fuck you! Sincerely: The Playerbase

@johnmoore8627

9 күн бұрын

This whole raid would be fine if they just made all the other normal GR stuff everyone has in the raid but NOOOOOO!

I don't understand why they didn't put someone like JKA, GK or CW Padme into the pool of usable units too. Sure it would make no sense from a lore perspective but nither does Giddeon, Stark or Veers in the Endor raid. I'm also convinced that nobody at CG ever playtested the Naboo raid with units weaker then R5, when an R5 GMY with over 7k special offence barely removes 1/4 of the protection on enemies in the stage intended for G8-11 units you know something is wrong. When a G10 Windu is barely able to take 2 turns before being defeated you know something is wrong. When a 4-man-team of G12 droids struggles to get over 100k in the stage intended for G8-11 units you know something is wrong. I think CG should either rebalance lower tiers by lowering the HP / the amount of bonus attacks on the enemies, or add a few other units that are a little more accesible. If they don't do anything to the raid it will end up as the least played raid, since the krait raid at least had Revan requirements and Boba as usable units.

@markkostka6897

8 күн бұрын

The lore aspect has always been half hearted at best and restricted to a few toons...then just make players gear up a lot of useless toons to waste their cash and spend on the game.

Its also incredibly demoralizing to score 10-100k in this raid, right after scoring millions in Endor

@JoeShmoe-tz9fc

9 күн бұрын

I feel that in my loins. Went from being top 10 on my teams raid scores to now I have a single team that can maybe get me 100-120k. Depressing.

@dan-lr4zm

8 күн бұрын

Yep, I went from 2.3m to 100k.

@erok9095

8 күн бұрын

Yes man, struggling to break 100k with R5-R7 toons. 🙄

@markkostka6897

8 күн бұрын

Not just that but the time and effort to get a lot lower score angers me. I expected some time to adjust but not so much time playing each round with lower toons.

Spot on. I like the idea of the raid, as a newer account, I feel worthless and it's a kick in the spacebawls.

They should’ve just made the raid accessible to factions instead of specific characters. Krayt Raid was faction specific even though some of those factions never dealt with the Krayt Dragon. Making Naboo open to Seps, Galactic Republic, and Gungans would’ve been a lot more accessible.

@auzor5900

9 күн бұрын

Could have gone all GR minus clone troopers, and all separatists minus Geonosians, and it still would have been a lot more accessible.

Cut in half? No, my guild got NO REWARDS.

I like how they acknowledge the new player experience sucked, put forth some effort to improve it, and then immediately drop an update in which new players can’t possibly participate in

This is sadly exactly what we called would happen when GL'S were first announced, the Kylo and Rey ones. That what would happen was that events would have to be balanced for GL and relics, which would cripple newer or lower power accounts

I feel like they release new content one update that takes a step forward, then the next update just feels like we take two steps back with the game. I just don’t get it

I'm pretty sure this is intentional. They knew people will be upset at this extreme difference. Then they will follow it up with an apology and an incremental improvement-which everyone will thank them for and forget that it's still worse than before.

i miss being able to use every character on my roster

FIX YOUR GAME

It's getting harder and harder to keep interest in the game. Lucky for me I have whales in my guild dragging me along for the ride.

The first tier is crazy. Historically, you would be able to at least nibble at the raid, and get some points. Here, you will take 5 minutes to kill one droid for 5k score, unless you got a coherent team which takes advantage of the raid modifiers. Even in cpit, could just throw a team at it and get a few 100ks of points...

Speaking as an officer another issue I find is that this raid is FAR more effort incentive to get good scores, if you don't remod then scores took a drastic hit. Comapre that too Endor where you can optimise but you can use standard mods, you relaibly get 80% score or even 50% on full auto. So it's likely gonna be a struggle to get the average joe guild member to really try and get the same rewards you perivously got.

I think CG has missed the mark with these past Raids. What happened to the character unlocks thru raids? I miss those. Make Raids Fun Again (MRFA)!

@osets2117

9 күн бұрын

They moved them to conquest (actual statement from the forums). I both agree and disagree with it

@SymeonPhronema

8 күн бұрын

@@osets2117 And conquest is a terrible game mode, imo.

@osets2117

8 күн бұрын

@@SymeonPhronema far too grindy

@SymeonPhronema

7 күн бұрын

@@osets2117 Exactly. 💯

Who are we kidding, they wont do anything about it

I think a good fix for this change would be allowing all galactic republic, separatists, and jedi, or even just all galactic republic and seps. they could also bring back mk3 for endor raid but halve it

CG: Takes my money for a Separatist and Jedi bundle. Also CG: Cuts my Mk 3 raid tokens in half for supporting them. Me: 🙃

This is just sad. CG actually made a Raid that does everything right, and they still find a way to ruin it. The accessibility is not friendly for free-to-play, & by the time they actually unlocked the required characters, it’ll already be replaced with another! What’s the point of keeping the old raids if they’re not going to be relevant anymore? I get why they’re replacing them, but it still ruins the experience in the game.

@jayrock248

7 күн бұрын

the old raids are basically dead let us play them for nothing or new currency play them kinda miss them was fun trying new teams but sacrificing raid currency for old raids not gonna happen

Twice the pride, double the fall

You gotta give it to CG though not only did they replicate Battle for Naboo flawlessly, they also managed to replicate the backlash against The Phantom Menace when it came out in theaters……

What irradiating is the Jedi didn’t get a rework it would of been great and perfect time for the people who already upgrade them or the ones to want to invest in iconic characters

@SymeonPhronema

8 күн бұрын

Agreed, but CG is lazy as hell. CG is all about low effort, and max profit.

Yeah, my guild was previously almost hitting the fourth crate, we now barely made first. The only reason I was able to do anything at all is because I went after Gungans, which was a decision I made purely because I love Gungans, not because it makes any sense for my account.

I was getting 5M in Endor, I’m getting 400k in Naboo.

@ScottPress

9 күн бұрын

So build raid teams for Naboo. You can't seriously expect to hit the same score in the new raid as the previous raid without working on new raid teams.

@peterclark2152

9 күн бұрын

@@ScottPress Lol, yep that’s how it works.

@alihorda

9 күн бұрын

​Still the contrast is huge and annoying @@ScottPress

We had 2 long standing guild members leave cause our reward was too low for them, sad but i understand

this problem would probably be fixed, if they announced the required characters sooner. Guilds could've planned and farmed for the raid, but you just cant get a conquest character or gungans running in about a Month

I wish CG would make the MK3 currency available in all the new raids (Krayt, Endor, and Naboo). Let the guilds choose which path they want to take in regards to farming for raids instead of moving the bottleneck every few months.

The guild for my new F2P account went from 3rd box, halfway to 4th box on Endor, to NO box in this. We get NOTHING. We’re 215 million and can’t get any raid rewards. Just lost out on 180K tickets. This feels like an ambush and I wish we would have just not even tried it. They need to nerf the enemies in the first two levels and also give us a make-good for guilds who got zero rewards trying out this new raid unawares.

I miss the days where you could use your full roster on a raid

It’s not a good time. My guild was getting the 424mil crate in Endor. No where near the rewards for Naboo Raid. The character selection is piss poor and the raid itself is not fun. The tier 1 and 2 are absolutely ridiculous. Also, WTF are Guardian and Counselor there? At least use characters that are somewhat useful.

@kristoferscott3677

9 күн бұрын

Counselor has a ship and has a healer tag so he can be used as a leader.

@osets2117

9 күн бұрын

The fact we only have 1 healer leader with an actual lead is not okay

Still better than being forced to watch an episode of the acolyte next to reylos lol

This raid is the definition of putting lipstick on a pig. So what if it finally looks good if everything else about it are crap

I think the issue with the raid is just the required teams not being enough for lesser accounts and guilds. You NEED Quadme and Gungans if you want a decent score. If you don't try in conquest right now to get her, you lose out on one crucial character. Gungans and new Jedi require a ton of Kyros and that's a huge pivot for players already working on other projects. My guild is advocating for us to reach 2.5mil score per player by the time the raid ends, but I don't see us getting to that point because unlike Endor or even Krayt, too many are either useless outside of the raid so you have to pick and choose to work on the raid or not, or they are expensive investments that aren't beneficial once the raid ends outside of Gungans and Quadme. The raid could really benefit from some # tweaks on damage and score + maybe adding some more characters to be available. Why can't we use Ima-Gun-Di or even Bariss? I think what new raids need is a feature that allows ALL characters (maybe no GL's unless they're a focus on the raid like Leia) but have the benefits like in the Naboo raid for specific teams and not specific characters. Maybe non related teams get .5 of the score? If that's the case then I'd be willing to participate more because it's giving me options rather than requirements. When locking the rewards behind a raid "chase", you're really running with bigger blindsides if you are focusing on other parts of the game unless you are already big spending.

@espark3259

9 күн бұрын

Pfff, buy them, that’s it.

@PeriodicallyProlific

9 күн бұрын

Bariss is like ahsokas age dude, that wouldn't make any sense if they don't even have anakin

@carsk6903

9 күн бұрын

@@PeriodicallyProlificBariss is around the same age as Anakin, only TCW makes her seem the same age as Ahsoka. Padme is also a child as Quadme too.

I think that the mk3 should move from raid to raid on a month or bi-monthly basis

I feel like CG is cheating us, so I wouldn’t min cheating in PVE. I just wish I could convince my guild to be on board with it

They need to just let us pick a raid to play for all rewards. If people want to farm up for Krayt, let them.

I just got off of a 7 day cruise. My mind is blown with all of the updates in one week🤯

This is what they need to do: - Nerf the NPC’s in the raid - Buff the points you get for actions in the raid (defeating, dodging, space abilities, etc.) There. That’s all they need to do.

I run a 330m free to play/dolphin Guild. We're going to hit 14,5m crate in this first raid and I spoke with my co-leader about the raid yesterday in Voice chat and the difference with Endor. This raid, as cool as it is visually, is gatekeeping the F2P players A LOT and since MQGJ is not even farmable yet, without mentioning the Jar Jar situation we we're very puzzled on why they even realeased it yet if only the Whales are able to actually participate properly considering how the "cheap team" of Seps requires R8 across the board for the enrage stuff to work. We're content on having the first raid with 14,5m crate, but in order to get the 22,5m one, we need to have our biggest members to invest to the game for the Guilds sake so we can reach it and by the time the next one will roll out, we should have enough to handle that, but it's still the same what we got from Endor by just throwing in teams and pressing full auto. It's certainly de-motivating, especially for the lower GP members who didn't buy the LSB Jedi's and don't have teams for it, so we literally have to direct people to build up Gungans instead of Inquisitors for Reva shards, which we finally are getting some of. It's either or situation and the Guild can't grow if we don't get the raid rewards as we used to. CG needs to bring it down a notch or this will kill the lower GP Guilds and the whole free to play/dolphin aspect of the game completely.

Raid rewards, galactic challenges becoming ridiculously hard they've effectively halved the omicron drop rate, dathomir con job, and datacons. Its like they're trying to kill this game now

@osets2117

9 күн бұрын

Punishment for lotr: home not making them money

I WISH my rewards were simply cut in half. Instead, they were multiplied by 0 :(

Kinda mad at myself, I geared up master Qui gon, obi wan, and kel beq just to realize you need them at 5 stars or up

The difficulty is too high. Endor and krayt you could at the very least toss in a mismatched team of sub g12 to get some points. You toss in a team of r5 mismatched and you can't kill a single droid at base difficulty. That being said the deficit between raids hurt the whale guilds a lot more than mid range guilds. We get less personal rewards but the guild payout is about the same.

I was the only person in my guild to hit over 1 million. We did not even hit the first reward crate. Going back to endor next go around

CG has officially made it pay to play to get decent gear. What a joke

My guild went from getting about 60m in the endor raid to not even getting first crate here, feel massively punished for not having what is essentially a pair of pay to win teams. Even with the B2 "operating better than intended" I'm lucky to get half the maximum score on the R5 tier. I think it's insane that so many people are struggling and CG are like "we should nerf one of the easily accessible units that is performing well in this raid"

There are definitely issues to be fixed, but I think the panic is being WAY overstated. The raid is new and people still have no idea what they’re doing. I took some time and experimented with different comps and modding during our raid run, and I was able to score 2M with only two teams: 1) Darth Maul, Sidious, B1, Magna, Nute 2) Luminara, Kit, Shaak, Plo, Koon My initially attempts were much, much lower. But these are two VERY accessible teams that I’m confident could max out the R7 tier, so that’s 3.6M right there without ANY new characters at all, and not dependent on B2 lead. That’s still a slight dip from last raid (I need to get to 4.2M to match Endor), but much better than what people are currently experiencing, and very achievable by a lot of people.

The other problem with this raid is thet the lowest level enemies are still g13. Lower those down to like g9-10 and a lot more guilds could get rewards

Getting Wat and KAM shards went from 10 months to like 2 years with the MARK3 Currency. Played since like 2016 but didn’t get Wat or KAM when they came out now getting GL Kenobi just became 10x harder just because Wat is so hard to get. It’s hard to convince guild leaders to go back to Geo TB when ROTE has so much better rewards. They really need to make the old TB characters easier to get but this Naboo raid just made it even harder

our guild can't even reach the bronze crate now, so no tier 3 for us... this is a one and done raid for us.

I will never enjoy content that doesn't let us use whatever we want.

The simple fact that they pulled the MKIII's out of the Speeder Bike raid completely, after so many worked really hard to build all of the necessary guys to relic 3 and higher. It's extremely frustrating. I am highly considering quitting, and so are many others. It's basically evil and greedy. Force people to build very specific characters, only to make it obsolete if you want the MKIII's. Now waste your time and money on building these new guys, and in the future, we'll make that obsolete too, and force you to build others. It's the guide book for greed and evil. Disney is horrible.

I think the difficulty of achieving the third crate is being blown out of proportion. Bear with me... Luminara w/ Zeta & Kit Fisto basically carry one of the teams. Get 3 other random decent Jedi that you probably already had lying around, take them all to R5, and boom... 900k score with mediocre mods and maybe a couple retries. "All you have to do", as a guild, is require every single person to go get Luminara, toss a zeta on her, and Kit Fisto, use 3 other Jedi they probably already had lying around... 900kx50 = 45M. With a single team. Blowing 3rd crate out of the water. Now add in a bunch of people in the guild who already have some droids/seps/maul/sidious lying around. Let's say they're not even modded well. Cool, drop it down to Difficulty lv1 and get 450k points, conservatively. Let's say half the guild (25 members) can do that without really any investment at all. Boom, another 11.25M. Now you're sitting at 56.25MM... coming up on 4th crate. Toss in 5 whales / people who just really liked Gungans who can EASILY max the 1.8MM tier each, giving another 9MM. 65.25MM. I get that it's not "convenient" but we need to also acknowledge that Endor may have spoiled us in that 1) its character requirements involved a lot of toons tons of people alreadyt had and 2) you could achieve reasonable scores on full auto even with crap teams. Endor, if anything, was easier than what we were used to.

The issue with each one of these raids are very much about wailing. How many new players would have access to Queen Amidala? How many players would have this toon? We need to realize that the accessibility issue is based on their rollout to the top players who spend.

They need to add a way to convert the MK1 and 2 currencies for MK3 if they're going to screw everyone over with moving rewards or cutting them to half constantly. Not everyone's gonna be able or want to do these raids.

This is the exact reason I went so hard into gungans (also the memes). I’m about to be finished with my last Jar jar requirement and then I am going to focus hard on the queen amidala team which is mostly finished. Gotta drag my guild to better rewards if possible.

I unlocked and R7 GL Leigh on the very last Endor Raid. I finally crossed the finish line to having the best character for the raid and now its on to hurrying up and farming Gungans.

I get the character pool, it is all the characters that were around during this battle in the movies. Not that they were in the Phantom Menace but timeline wise, they were around in some way. A Jedi Master Dooku, capt Panaka, other separitist leader with Gunray, and a pilot Anakin as easily accessible characters to be added would be nice but it seems too late now.

My guild said forget the GET3 tokens and we just ran the Speeder Bike again

This is probably the most whale exclusive raid so far. A lot of the major and only useful characters are very new. I wouldn’t be surprised if most guilds start forcing gungan farms.

I checked that my guild hadn’t started yet because we had a very late Endor raid and only started Naboo yesterday. You should run that poll again in a couple weeks. I’ll be curious to see what happens.

Half the teams available, a quarter the reward. This is the way

My guild is dying. We haven't had a new member join in more than 2 months. I don't know if it is swgoh itself or if it is just our server. I really hate that when cg added the speeder bike raid they combined all the raid tokens into one pool. That cut our raiding ability down by three quarters. We don't even have enough tokens to try the Naboo raid yet. Not that we will. We'll stay with the Speeder raid.

My guild at 600mil doesn't even care about it as most people dont have proper teams

I know its not likely, but what if CG removed the unit restrictions for these new raids on the lowest difficulty? It would scratch people’s itch that wish they could use their more fun teams like back in the legacy raid days, it would be more new player friendly, and I imagine even if people could max out all 5 of their attempts in the lowest tier, that still wouldn’t be such a large difference to prevent people from wanting to build up the raid specific units as well to improve their score. Thoughts?

It feels like CG made the character requirements for this raid as annoying as possible. You have gungans which are a slow farm rn. Jar jar which is a rotating event(I miss the old legendary character events). And you have a ton of shitty galactic republic Jedi most people don’t have. This raid just seems inaccessible to like 70% of the playerbase.

The points everyone in my guild is getting on Naboo is 1/10 of what they got on Endor: We went from the T3 box on Endor to no rewards (6m) on Naboo. We'll just go back to Endor, so we can at least get some G12/13 materials again.

Let’s be honest, it should have been delayed by another month. If we can’t farm Master Qui Gon yet, and Jar Jar has only had one event so far, plus Queen Armidalla has only just gone to Proving Grounds, it’s impossible to even attempt at present. Sure you might be able to do one or two battles, but the point of a new raid is to at least make it assesable or make you work on getting the characters up like we did with the Sith raid. I’ve had my Gungens ready at R5 for over a month, and CG gave us all those wonderful double drops recently, only to bring Jar Jar back in August? I have Queen Armidalla at R7 and am only 50 shards away from having Padawan Obi Wan to Seven Stars, but Master Qui Gon isn’t even farmable yet. This comment comes from a day one account by the way, and I feel if CG was going to push this new raid out, Jar Jar should have come back prior to its release and Qui Gon should be farmable.

I told my guild this yesterday, SWGOH has been infected with the Disney cancer. Just like Disney's brand, the theme parks and what they have done to the Star Wars IP, they're maximizing profits at the expense of customer experience and quality. Anyone that grew up going to their parks since the 80s and 90s knows what I'm referring to.

I think they just want everyone to whale on Gungans

I guarantee that if they put the Mk III rewards back on Endor raid so Mk III is on both raids, every guild in the game will be playing Endor instead of Naboo.

Raids are the game mode equivalent of datacrons, temporary power/whaling

I like the idea of rotating the raids because like you said it gives us a return on investing these characters that are made specifically for the raids. Also for people that did apply the raid omicrons, it doesn't feel like they wasted resources. Datacrons are something that have a limited shelf-life and if people want to spend money on em then that's their perogative, but for omicrons, that are permanent, have a limited time use, it's just absurd. Putting these raids on a rotation allows for more people to invest in these characters due to the reoccurring use of said characters, but also not put people in a corner and force them to not apply the omis. If people want the freedom to be able to apply the raid omis then they should have every right to and not have it stripped away because as this current system is, no one would go to such lengths to waste resources like that on something that has a limited use.

whoa! we are in the same guild??? thats awesome!

What would make raids more enjoyable was if they rotated them every week. I wish they could adjust the difficulty for Rancor, Tamk and Sith raid without being challenge Rancor levels. And rotate which ones are available each week for mk 3 currency. Cause the formula they have now of playing the 1 raid for 8+ months gets very tedious, very quickly. No idea why they went with this model when they started with Krayt. Seems like such a waste to make all the older raids unplayable because of the reward structure