This is a $20,000 Computer - The Portable NAS

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  • @LukeStoodley
    @LukeStoodley Жыл бұрын

    The fact that Linus can accurately flip his screwdriver but drop everything else is a talent in itself tbh 🤣

  • @alaniasdruid8616

    @alaniasdruid8616

    Жыл бұрын

    That was take 963 and he broke 715 of them before properly flipping. Editing is magic.

  • @DarkKitarist

    @DarkKitarist

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alaniasdruid8616 No wonder he need 100+ people to support him...

  • @rustyzipper19

    @rustyzipper19

    Жыл бұрын

    Man’s been doing it since before they announced the screwdriver. I saw it when going through old videos. Screwdrivers are the only thing I haven’t seen him drop.

  • @1.618_Murphy

    @1.618_Murphy

    Жыл бұрын

    The LTT Screwdriver is his puppy! That's why...

  • @Fipsh

    @Fipsh

    Жыл бұрын

    3:33

  • @stevenhaynes9605
    @stevenhaynes9605 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely should’ve done some custom jiggery pokery so that the peli case WAS the case of the computer!!! Would’ve allowed for so much more space!

  • @TheTravelBus

    @TheTravelBus

    Жыл бұрын

    Came here to say this

  • @Rok_Satanas

    @Rok_Satanas

    Жыл бұрын

    Having done the same for about 1000€ that included monitor, speakers, peripherals and cables included, i think they dropped the ball here

  • @derhesligebonsaibaum

    @derhesligebonsaibaum

    Жыл бұрын

    thought they would do that tbh

  • @bluein_

    @bluein_

    Жыл бұрын

    Riot Games actually does this for their local game servers they bring to LAN tournaments! They have a plane-safe, custom case for their custom LoL servers complete with a comprehensive booklet on how to get it set up on any network. It saved my bacon quite a bit back then.

  • @aphoxema

    @aphoxema

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was kind of expecting him just to strap a test bench plane in there or something cool like that

  • @patgauvingeek
    @patgauvingeek Жыл бұрын

    I thought you were going to transform the suitcase in a computer to save space. Maybe next time but I'm not sure if it will pass the security at the airport though... 😅

  • @OneMomentPls

    @OneMomentPls

    Жыл бұрын

    It will, but i feel like the hassle is too much for them. Especially when you remember some TSA can be pain in the ass. All this people who said to mod it directly into the case truly never get to experience how relentless TSA can be when they suspect you.

  • @RaceSimCentral

    @RaceSimCentral

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve taken computer parts a lot but never risked carry on. I always check bag it.

  • @JebFromWarmDays

    @JebFromWarmDays

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@RaceSimCentral Wouldn't check bagging it be more nerve-racking because you can't keep it with you?

  • @thomasa5619

    @thomasa5619

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JebFromWarmDays that’s not a sentence.

  • @JebFromWarmDays

    @JebFromWarmDays

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thomasa5619 lol I tried

  • @BradleyMackintosh
    @BradleyMackintosh Жыл бұрын

    Should’ve just used the pelican case as the case

  • @ItsTooSlick

    @ItsTooSlick

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what I thought he was going to do lol

  • @RichWhiteUM

    @RichWhiteUM

    Жыл бұрын

    @Blake Belladonna The answer is in your latter question and not the former. You carry on what you can't afford to have a luggage handler "misplace". It's not about the $50 luggage fee, it's about security.

  • @schlemihlrosenzweig3780

    @schlemihlrosenzweig3780

    Жыл бұрын

    @@an1m3n00b When was your last flght? Theese times it has a 20-50% chance that your checked in luggage will arrive later or never and gets lost. So everything important you have always by your hands/eyes.

  • @Joe-so6su

    @Joe-so6su

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe they didn't want to have to lug around the pelican case if they want the server somewhere other than the hotel. Although the pelican case is easier to carry and has more protection. .

  • @bachtomin213

    @bachtomin213

    Жыл бұрын

    They are flying their entire editing staff to CES. "Someplace other than the hotel room ". What, they going to take it and run a Lan party at CES, and not stand over their editing staff on the clock with a whip?. Oh yeah, that's what Linus has Yvonne for.

  • @dhindsa01
    @dhindsa01 Жыл бұрын

    honestly, besides the 30tb $7,000 hard drives, the rest seems affordable and "easy" to make

  • @ItsAho

    @ItsAho

    Жыл бұрын

    Other than the $500 motherboard everything else will be affordable. And you can get itx or other matx boards for much cheaper if you're willing to go without high end features like on board dual 10gig ethernet

  • @joee7452

    @joee7452

    Жыл бұрын

    They are a little excessive. It was fun to watch, but in reality you could build one with a smaller footprint with larger capacity and throughput for less then the cost of one of those drives. It just wouldn't make as good of a video.

  • @Tagiau

    @Tagiau

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joee7452 Oh yeah, because 30 2tb nvme drives is going to save so much more space than 2 30tb drives. 30 980 pros only cost 7000, but you have to wire and store 30 980 pros. Good luck doing that. Good luck cooling your epyc processor with a l9a. Because you also aren't getting the lanes to power all 30 drives with any consumer cpu.

  • @Tagiau

    @Tagiau

    Жыл бұрын

    @@username8644 Homie read the comment i responded to before responding to mine. Homie thinks you can fit 30 2tb drives on a board with a 5700x. You literally can't do that. It will never work on a consumer board. So good luck thinking 30 drives would've been better than 2 in this case. Good luck.

  • @prestonlui6451

    @prestonlui6451

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tagiau well, not like you really need 30TB of storage, even 8TB ssd is probably an overkill anyway. That said, if they can, why not

  • @masterleague8349
    @masterleague8349 Жыл бұрын

    You could have built the pc inside the pelican suitcase😂😂. That would have been cool

  • @volvo09

    @volvo09

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely!

  • @Brandon-uy1uv

    @Brandon-uy1uv

    Жыл бұрын

    @@omg_gta I've taken a bunch of pc parts over the border in my checked bag before. They were a bit confused but honestly didn't care once they realized I was a tech nerd xD

  • @volvo09

    @volvo09

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Brandon-uy1uv yeah, shouldn't be a problem if checked.... With carryon you have the stricter procedures.

  • @blarque

    @blarque

    Жыл бұрын

    @@omg_gta the seperation thing is because of the battery. Supposedly they have the same density as some explosives, i literally travelled with a 19" network switch in my carry-on once and nobody cared.

  • @markpywell3506

    @markpywell3506

    Жыл бұрын

    TSA wouldn't like that

  • @hikaritsumi2123
    @hikaritsumi2123 Жыл бұрын

    "Give everyone a 10GB network dongle to bring everyone up to the speed." Yeah, literally I guess

  • @TrueNAS
    @TrueNAS Жыл бұрын

    Great Choice once again by the LMG team using TrueNAS SCALE as the reliable storage solution for their CES build! We can't wait to see the content from CES! Happy New Year to everyone at LMG!

  • @Kolokotrones
    @Kolokotrones Жыл бұрын

    Some quick cnc drilling and that pelican case could have been the computer case itself

  • @horacegentleman3296

    @horacegentleman3296

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what I was thinking, it's like they've never hacked together a briefcase PC.

  • @djstraussp

    @djstraussp

    Жыл бұрын

    Sincerely, i was expecting the same. Some #hackapelicancasemod with RGB 🤓

  • @stue2642

    @stue2642

    Жыл бұрын

    Although the case wouldn't have been watertight and the back plate would be exposed. Would've been cool if they were re-routed so you run it with the lid open though...

  • @Ellioze_oops

    @Ellioze_oops

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the airport would have had some concerns with how it appears on an X-ray

  • @warriorsmustang1784

    @warriorsmustang1784

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stue2642 They could have easily 3d printed a cover that quickly screws on

  • @brys6577
    @brys6577 Жыл бұрын

    Was there any reason you didn't build the PC actually in the pelican? I feel like that would be a sick engineering build/challenge.

  • @errorerror6918

    @errorerror6918

    Жыл бұрын

    I would not want to take the results of that through airport security

  • @thehumancondition5764

    @thehumancondition5764

    Жыл бұрын

    my thoughts exactly. Would give more freedom and cooling would be a cynch with the door open.

  • @brys6577

    @brys6577

    Жыл бұрын

    @@errorerror6918 that's very fair, although they'd be going through airport security as a business company, specifically flim/news company, maybe that would make a difference into what TSA considers to be dangerous or not? I don't know, but last time TSA stopped me for having some sour gummy worms in my bag, so take that for what it's worth 😂

  • @xyzen9673

    @xyzen9673

    Жыл бұрын

    Try to explain that. Case of JUST electronics to airport security... Best case scenario they think its a bomb... Worst case they think its some sort of hacking tool to hijack the plane.

  • @Phreedom

    @Phreedom

    Жыл бұрын

    I scrolled down to say this!

  • @MauaCedeiros
    @MauaCedeiros Жыл бұрын

    Imagine they go through all this effort and the flying company loses their baggage. edit: yeah I get it's a carry-on, but your brain is so large that it suffocated itself in your small head and you missed the keyword IMAGINE

  • @marioluigi9599

    @marioluigi9599

    Жыл бұрын

    LTT stands for lesbian tech tips. AND this guy is clearly a lesbian

  • @Ahmed0Elyamani

    @Ahmed0Elyamani

    Жыл бұрын

    no way they wouldn't carry this stuff onboard the cabin

  • @fuelvolts

    @fuelvolts

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL @ "flying company". You mean airline? :D

  • @Steamrick

    @Steamrick

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why Linus specifically said that they're taking it as carry-on luggage.

  • @marioluigi9599

    @marioluigi9599

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Steamrick it's not "Linus". It's "the lesbian"

  • @uvacity
    @uvacity Жыл бұрын

    why not just build the server directly in the Pelican case?

  • @plyr581

    @plyr581

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly what I thought was happening when I saw the Pelican.

  • @DGotliebVids

    @DGotliebVids

    Жыл бұрын

    I think TSA may not like that solution

  • @ArchangelUltra

    @ArchangelUltra

    Жыл бұрын

    If you have to drill huge holes into the pelican case to create mounting points and airflow, then you've defeated the point of using a pelican case.

  • @Top_Cheeze

    @Top_Cheeze

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArchangelUltra you could just open it when you wanted to use it, no one said they had to glue it together forever inside :P

  • @bodgeitwithbrian

    @bodgeitwithbrian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Top_Cheeze yes, that's what I was thinking, open it like a luggable Compaq from the 80's. In fact, pelican make cases like that, gas struts and all

  • @ignajara
    @ignajara Жыл бұрын

    As a video editor, rushing projects on the go for different youtube channels (not as big as this channel, but in the 1 to 5 hundred thousand range), id just love to work on those conditions. Thank you for making all of the editors jobs less painful. You can really tell these things add to the quality of the production. Its super common to have producers really shave off the post production department. Hats off to you all and hopefully some day you open remote job spots for people outside of canada, i would really love to work for LMG. Hugs all the way from Argentina!

  • @Werdna12345

    @Werdna12345

    Жыл бұрын

    Genuine question: how would an ingest server help a work flow with multiple editors? I know I’m missing something. In my mind there would only be one editor working on a single video. Why not ingest the footage directly to the respective laptop?

  • @happinessiskey2858

    @happinessiskey2858

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Werdna12345 There are multiple reasons, here are a few that I can think of: 1. Not hogging the networking and/or PC in the editors' den when something has to be ingested. Usually the latency with ingesting that much data create long response (ping) times for those editing and basically makes you unable to edit. This has to do with storage, CPU, RAM, and networking bandwidth that contributes to this. 2. It just makes it easy. There's one place for you to go in the building/office to ingest footage. You just create a new folder for the video, and put the footage in a folder labeled 'RAW' or whatever directory scheme your company, boss, or you want to use. 3. Really only one person can work on a project at once as Adobe will give you a warning saying that the project is open somewhere else. but in case, someone's laptop crashes, gets Linus dropped, someone's chicken grease or favorite smoothie gets spilled all over it, etc. you still have the footage. MacBooks are NOT redundant and on the off chance something happens, everything is replicated (not backed up) on the server. Also, in the situation where someone was out sick or out on vacation (I think you're specifically talking about when they go to CES in LA, but all of this pretty much applies to the office as well) they could still have access to the project and not have to wait for so and so to get back so they can finish and release the video *in a timely manner*. That's the gist of it at least. Hope that helps!

  • @zeroa69

    @zeroa69

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Werdna12345 because they are going to need all that storage space to hold the raw footage before editing. assuming they are only rocking 4k and not 8k like in house main cams are. everyone is going to shoot several hours worth footage @100gb every 40min. its a lot cheaper and quicker to build this server then upgrade every labtop with the most tb they could which still wouldn't be enough. also space is a major factor since they are traveling by air no need to lug around slow external drives. this will allow them to pump out the highest quality videos as fast as possible which in return will skyrocket views during a real time event like this. effectively making more money from this trip.

  • @Werdna12345

    @Werdna12345

    Жыл бұрын

    @@happinessiskey2858 @zeroa69 thanks. It didn't dawn on me that the editors will probably still be working on a video when more footage needs to be dumped. Have the server is probably handy for letting someone else look at the project file, reviewing the project, color grading, etc. There might not be 2 editors editing at the same time but there might be other people who need to look or work on it after the editing stage before export

  • @happinessiskey2858

    @happinessiskey2858

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Werdna12345 Of course! Linus also mentioned the possibility of having a Windows rendering PC which it would help have all the projects on one central place so you aren't having to transfer files between computers all the time which can be time consuming even over 10 gig LAN (better but it's quicker to just have it in one place where anyone can go get it when they need to). Those rendering and raw (I wouldn't transfer the raw files every time with the project, I'd just keep them on the server and link them to the project which is probably what they're doing) files take up a lot of space.

  • @vorishloss1890
    @vorishloss1890 Жыл бұрын

    I actually flinched watching Linus drop that backplate onto (what seemed like) his motherboard

  • @tinyBigGAMES

    @tinyBigGAMES

    Жыл бұрын

    I know right, I flinched most of the way through the video at the handling of those components, sigh. There where moments where I said out loud, "be careful there", LOL!.

  • @ScottWinterringer

    @ScottWinterringer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tinyBigGAMES alll I know is whoever made the explosion effect needs a raise LOL

  • @SkulShurtugalTCG

    @SkulShurtugalTCG

    Жыл бұрын

    You must be new here.

  • @SankalpSaxena99

    @SankalpSaxena99

    Жыл бұрын

    If you are long term viewer you wouldn't even care about him dropping things now!!

  • @Taizunx

    @Taizunx

    Жыл бұрын

    In 10 years you'll be expecting it instead of flinching at it.

  • @TheTechnoPilot
    @TheTechnoPilot Жыл бұрын

    Hey there @LinusTechTips team, professional DIT here. Your slower offloads on Windows are likely due to the single threaded operation of Explorer (including on Windows 11) and anything using its backend, while it’s most noticeable on underworked machines, switching to either a Robocopy based offload software, or going right to the command line Robocopy command itself and using the multi thread argument will allow you to get far closure to parity of a Mac machine, especially when using base clock limited CPUs.

  • @KaiYuzy
    @KaiYuzy Жыл бұрын

    Here i go again drowning myself with knowledge that I can’t afford.

  • @dsm1891
    @dsm1891 Жыл бұрын

    kinda wished this video was making the Pelican Case into the PC case

  • @siljeljoslandbakke9613

    @siljeljoslandbakke9613

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what I expected when the Pelican Case was brought out

  • @moonik665

    @moonik665

    Жыл бұрын

    Airport security might not like the idea. Or rather, while explaining that inside the case there is a computer would be true for either scenario; explaining that "this is what the inside of a computer looks like" is far more time consuming than presenting a black box as "a computer".

  • @iTzDritte
    @iTzDritte Жыл бұрын

    I just watched an entire video about how you’re going to make computers portable enough to provide media coverage for a trade show about computers.

  • @nothanks5531

    @nothanks5531

    Жыл бұрын

    what the hell, i just did the same thing 👁

  • @dallasurban9676

    @dallasurban9676

    Жыл бұрын

    Too much for sure.

  • @kevnor7909

    @kevnor7909

    Жыл бұрын

    Which content is going to be edited on a Mac 😂

  • @spaceowl9246

    @spaceowl9246

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nothanks5531 so did I! What a funny coincidence.

  • @360ModsandHacks
    @360ModsandHacks Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love to see the 10gig networking equipment. I really wish I could find one of those CalDigit 10g networking adapters for a laptop. Crazy how you have 4 of them! I'm in the process of building a 10gig NAS in a small form factor case, all because of your videos!!! Keep up the good work 😁

  • @nikitastaf1996
    @nikitastaf1996 Жыл бұрын

    Rent a house instead of hotel I guess.

  • @santiagoalmeida5553
    @santiagoalmeida5553 Жыл бұрын

    To anyone that says that He should have build it on the pelican case. Yes, it's a pretty fun idea, and it could be more beneficial considering it will give more room, which means there will be better airflow for the stuff inside. However, airport security can be kind of problem if you do so. Security can stop them because it's unusual to see a modified pelican case with lots of electronics inside. I'd love to see that pelican case as the server itself, but I see why they decided the other route.

  • @manuelsputnik

    @manuelsputnik

    Жыл бұрын

    True, custom pelican cases for portable computers and electronics are usually made by the pelican case manufacturer. Not DIY solutions. Unless they really limited their space and used the foam of a pelican case without damaging/exposing the exterior; I don't think it would be timely and efficient solution unless they really planned far ahead for this trip.

  • @rkan2

    @rkan2

    Жыл бұрын

    How about using the 10k$ to rent a damn dedicated fiber in Las Vegas?? Just sounds like an excuse to get the editing team to Las Vegas on loll...

  • @happinessiskey2858

    @happinessiskey2858

    Жыл бұрын

    @@manuelsputnik True. Not to mention cooling in that thing. You wouldn't want to really drill holes that would make a potential entrance point - especially while traveling. Still a neat idea though. Weird how every comment of the 20 or so that I've read seem to all say the same thing though....

  • @10Tie

    @10Tie

    Жыл бұрын

    @@happinessiskey2858 could just open it for cooling

  • @FastSloth87

    @FastSloth87

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rkan2 They already had those drives, they did not buy new ones just for this.

  • @Alex-zi1nb
    @Alex-zi1nb Жыл бұрын

    Agreed with other posters - making the pelican case, the case, would’ve been a fun challenge. Lots of shock force damage to plan for and suck

  • @zekrinealfa1113

    @zekrinealfa1113

    Жыл бұрын

    Well yeah, but they need to deploy the system, they can't risk a challenge going wrong.

  • @kanshashiteiru6552

    @kanshashiteiru6552

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zekrinealfa1113 easy, build internal cage as a case, i would add tracks to, so i can bull it out 🎉

  • @boostio2720

    @boostio2720

    Жыл бұрын

    Airport security

  • @Bobis32

    @Bobis32

    Жыл бұрын

    @@boostio2720 trust me airport security wont care about whats in your pelican case unless its a Gun, drugs, or Cash well also bombs but a computer like this looks like a cheap office PC where the pelican case is worth more than the computer, also i bet they chose to make it a carryon size simply to prevent theft

  • @ibapreppie

    @ibapreppie

    Жыл бұрын

    Or ship the pc to where they are going, fly to said destination

  • @Smithson52
    @Smithson52 Жыл бұрын

    Excited to see full CES coverage again. I've always enjoyed them in previous years before 2020.

  • @mythosmint80085
    @mythosmint80085 Жыл бұрын

    Cool vid. Would be cool to see a follow up on how it worked. And maybe some more info on the work flow to explain why there needs to be network storage vs everyone editing footage for one project at a time

  • @glaydsonp
    @glaydsonp Жыл бұрын

    I really thought that Linus was gonna screw the pc into the pelican case.

  • @ross-carlson

    @ross-carlson

    Жыл бұрын

    That's because that's what they _should_ have done. Shocked they didn't.

  • @Chazbc

    @Chazbc

    Жыл бұрын

    Try explaining that one to airport security.

  • @tefoca

    @tefoca

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Chazbc "It's a portable server" done.

  • @ArmiaKhairy

    @ArmiaKhairy

    Жыл бұрын

    My guess is because they don't it confiscated or weird stuff done by the airport security.

  • @Chazbc

    @Chazbc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tefoca I think you overestimate airport security's willingness to listen to reason.

  • @TheSmileyTek
    @TheSmileyTek Жыл бұрын

    I use an Intel Optane cache drive for my 2TB mechanical drive that I store Steam games on. Works great for me.

  • @hzuiel

    @hzuiel

    Жыл бұрын

    Now that I finally upgraded my motherboard I have a spare m.2 slot so I should probably look up how to do this for my mechanical game drive.

  • @ivanmalinovski7807

    @ivanmalinovski7807

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hzuiel Honestly, just get rid of the mechanical drive at this point.

  • @hzuiel

    @hzuiel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ivanmalinovski7807 Are you planning to pay for the replacement ssd? I already have the hard drive, and as they pointed out in the video, used optane drives are cheap. Just to replace a 2tb drive with an ssd is at least $150, several times more. If you were looking at a new setup its even more drastic if you are weighing hd vs ssd. 4tb for well under $100 or like $350 for ssd. That is a good chunk of change. My main ssd is 1tb, so some of my games i want to be snappier will be on it. Games I play less often on the hard drive.

  • @hzuiel

    @hzuiel

    Жыл бұрын

    @Zaydan Alfariz optane?

  • @ivanmalinovski7807

    @ivanmalinovski7807

    Жыл бұрын

    @Zaydan Alfariz I just looked up prices on Amazon. NVMe drives are about the same price as SATA drives, and some NVMe drives are actually cheaper.

  • @usaevo8
    @usaevo8 Жыл бұрын

    Can we get a followup of how it performed during the event?

  • @steelerfaninperu
    @steelerfaninperu Жыл бұрын

    As a dude who travels and edits for long stretches abroad, this was very insightful. I don't need the bandwidth for a team, but I loved the approach to tackling the workstation build. Didn't even know they had dope mATX server motherboards like that and never occurred to me to even ask. Good call on the Pelican and dimensions too. I feel like this is actually a viable market product. A tailor-made chassis for carry-on standards with its own protective case and potent-enough components is legitimately something I would strongly consider buying.

  • @MrMagicPenguin12
    @MrMagicPenguin12 Жыл бұрын

    Would be really cool to see a debrief after CES on how this worked for you!

  • @Neuzahnstein

    @Neuzahnstein

    Жыл бұрын

    Create idea

  • @valkyriesti4095
    @valkyriesti4095 Жыл бұрын

    I always find these server videos fascinating. I can almost always pinpoint the exact moment that everything goes way over my head and I start to black out from info lol. In this case it’s (13:40) lol. Great work guys. Thanks for the content.

  • @MartinRomero

    @MartinRomero

    Жыл бұрын

    TrueNAS is a specialized OS for NAS (network attached storage) applications. Instead of having the computer run windows, they run this special OS so they can connect to its storage via the network.

  • @somethingdifferent9024

    @somethingdifferent9024

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Adlata Ever considered exaggeration for entertainment? You need to relax, this stuff isn't that deep.

  • @aaronchamberlain4698

    @aaronchamberlain4698

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Adlata … Winnie the troll? He said why he needs that particular pelican case (carryon not checked baggage), which limited his case choice, which limited everything else. This wasn’t careless, it was jank by design and not out of carelessness.

  • @thebigsad5402

    @thebigsad5402

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Adlata You didn't watch the video on WHY they are doing this I assume.

  • @superpork1superboy771

    @superpork1superboy771

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Adlata your previous comments are all hating on LTT. If you hate their content, just stop watching.

  • @bihude
    @bihude Жыл бұрын

    I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS WHOLE THING OPERATIN. All the editors doing all stuf at the same time, pushing this to the max........ gorgeous

  • @dividion8102
    @dividion8102 Жыл бұрын

    I've been using that case for about a year and really like it. I swapped the front fan for the same Noctua one last week. The stock one is a bit noisy. I didn't have to dremel the fan for it to fit though... It's pretty amazing just how much fits in there. In mine, I have a Ryzen 3400G, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe (boot), 14TB HDD (storage), 1TB SSD (fast storage), Nvidia T600 GPU (NVenc) and 4K60 Pro (capture card), and a slim DVD drive too because I didn' t want the bay sitting empty. So in total, mine's only worth about $1300 for a quiet capture/streaming machine that can also do editing. Overall, I think the case could use more airflow, but the amount you can pack in there is really impressive and overall it's still on par with a lot of mini-ITX cases.

  • @Its-Just-Zip
    @Its-Just-Zip Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad Linus touched on his hesitation to take that much storage across the border. I would like to see even a short or a float plane exclusive behind the scenes as to why that's possibly a bad idea because some people don't understand why that might be.

  • @MrTsolar

    @MrTsolar

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd have that portable server backed up to home-base before flying home. 24/7 background sync should do the trick over the course of the week, but not on that 5G hotspot.

  • @CranKun

    @CranKun

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrTsolar makes sens, but they're using it as a local server to upload videos they take at the convention. Maybe they take some files from home, but main use will be to upload there

  • @diracflux

    @diracflux

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. There’s a really serious risk crossing the border into and out of the US.

  • @ImKevan
    @ImKevan Жыл бұрын

    Based on the comments, and the fact I was asking the same question while watching... I think maybe it's time to build a portable server, and as some have also said, that pelican box, or maybe something similar, could be made into a pretty awesome portable server box. Imagine that box, but with a little door you could open up to access all the power/IO, maybe even one of those small 4 port toolless hotswap bays poking out the side so you can quickly slap in more storage, there's so many options since that box is actually kind of large, just wheel it in, park it next to a rack or power point and plug and play.

  • @katrinabryce

    @katrinabryce

    Жыл бұрын

    If you don't need 10GbE and 30+TB of storage, then an Intel NUC wouldn't probably do the job just fine.

  • @ImKevan

    @ImKevan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@katrinabryce Well...yeah lol, if you didn't need all that stuff, a large number of things would do the job just fine, hence the term "portable server".

  • @oiytd5wugho

    @oiytd5wugho

    Жыл бұрын

    *cough* TSA *cough*

  • @vsevolodprokhortves3507

    @vsevolodprokhortves3507

    Жыл бұрын

    I suppose you could use 19" rack cases for audio devices. They are usually 13" deep, but you can find server case for matx with this depth

  • @stanleybochenek1862

    @stanleybochenek1862

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oiytd5wugho TSA is gonna think it’s a bomb lol

  • @RavP34
    @RavP34 Жыл бұрын

    Would definitely love to see a video where the pelican case would be modified to both carry the server/pc parts and itself become the case by using modified brackets etc.

  • @JikoMuskato
    @JikoMuskato Жыл бұрын

    Well... I could get my 5950X run at 4.0 Ghz all-core and draw just below 90W in Cinebench (while at 4.3 Ghz is was sucking 160W, which means less than 10% performance uplift for close to twice the power consumption!), which makes it run cooler than my stock 3600X (although that one was sucking even 10W less power). The NH-L9a might actually be able to handle that after that manual tweaking. And going even a bit lower, like 3.8 Ghz, might increase the headroom for the cooler.

  • @xenajin6827

    @xenajin6827

    Жыл бұрын

    You don't do that to a production machine😑😑😑

  • @linuxpirate

    @linuxpirate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xenajin6827 Correct. The "production" solution for high core count chips in a confined build like this would be either be ECO mode on the 5950X/5900X/5**0X (still pushing it) and/or acquiring the 65W R9 5900 non-X, the later of which powers my home server at 45W ECO mode with the board used in this video. I did have to strip it out of an OEM system, however.

  • @Glornak

    @Glornak

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xenajin6827 Sure but this is a server machine. Simply having more threads is almost always gonna be better than per core preformace.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi62

    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi62

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xenajin6827 there’s a negligible performance loss between 4.3 GHz and 3.8 GHz lol, and it’s absolutely worth the reduced power usage especially for this kind of situation

  • @kaneki1056

    @kaneki1056

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 i think its more about stability where they don't want any possible setbacks for stuff like storage where running things mostly stock is the best option

  • @mradamdavies
    @mradamdavies Жыл бұрын

    7:48 I was totally sure that was going to be a segway to the sponsor 🤣

  • @infi84
    @infi84 Жыл бұрын

    PowerMan has always been InWin's inhouse brand (all the way back to the 90s) and they're just rebranded FSP power supplies, so they are certainly a reliable brand.

  • @index7787

    @index7787

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah, the "shitty branding" bellcurve. It's either pure chinesium or justified nonchalant confidence.

  • @lhl
    @lhl Жыл бұрын

    About a decade ago, I used to travel with a Pelican 1430 top loader carry-on (that could slide underseat even) as an AIO VR-capable devkit/workstation. The Pelican's polypropylene case can handle direct mounting of electronics - in my case, I used a combination of friction fitting with a single tiny 3D printed bracket and some judicious drilling and and it survived dozens of intercontinental flights and being lugged around the world without failure. The enclosure also kept it's IP67 rating when traveling - I just left the lid open when I was running it and had power and backplate aimed up so it was a breeze to plug in anywhere and didn't need any additional ventilation. I switched to an NFC S4 eventually for weight savings, but I can highly recommend the 1430 for someone looking to build a compact & portable, easy to ventilate system in a box.

  • @DVSx86
    @DVSx86 Жыл бұрын

    love these minimalistic purpose oriented builds!

  • @kc8omg
    @kc8omg Жыл бұрын

    I've definitely had baggage handlers break things well packed inside a Pelican case... It's their specialty.

  • @techster1852
    @techster1852 Жыл бұрын

    Linus: i think we’re gunna have to send the shooters Also Linus : ……so anyways i started blasting

  • @binge4ever602

    @binge4ever602

    Жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this comment, nobody batting an eye at Linus talking about sending the shooters

  • @AsainBossarus

    @AsainBossarus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@binge4ever602 sending shooters to Vegas no less 😂

  • @FleurDeFire

    @FleurDeFire

    Жыл бұрын

    @@binge4ever602 Saaame hahaha

  • @Movingfrag
    @Movingfrag Жыл бұрын

    In a similar situation i just added thermal pads between my NVMe SSDs and the bracket making a bracket (and a case) a sort of a passive cooler. Surprisingly worked perfectly fine!

  • @SoulAssassino
    @SoulAssassino Жыл бұрын

    I have a Peli 1510 as a tool/kitbox it's been such reliable companion over the years, nice to see it get a shoutout.

  • @Lluminal
    @Lluminal Жыл бұрын

    I'm constantly reminded how powerful and small a workstation can be compared to 10 or even 20 years ago. It's amazing.

  • @tardisrocks
    @tardisrocks Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see what the editing den looks like at CES. Do you get a separate room and ask for no beds and extra desks? Similar to how some vendors use rooms?

  • @TMGxRelentlessx
    @TMGxRelentlessx Жыл бұрын

    I love watching these videos no matter what they are building/fixing! My hope is to someday get into gaming on a pc but my budget will never allow me to spend money on a fun relaxation machine 😂 I live vicariously through you guys!!! Keep up the good work guys and gals!!!!

  • @bigpanda9970
    @bigpanda9970 Жыл бұрын

    Great video; you guys should do a follow up on how this actually worked out and performed!

  • @TheJCPHantom
    @TheJCPHantom Жыл бұрын

    Honestly I’m surprised they didn’t make a custom solution for their own needs using the tools they have in house. I’m sure an Alex solution would be of equal entertainment

  • @SrCarpi

    @SrCarpi

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem with an Alex solution would have been that the amount of liquid inside the water-cooling system would have violated FAA regs and would not have been allowed onto the plane.

  • @RealCyberCrime
    @RealCyberCrime Жыл бұрын

    Last one to take their hand off the $20000 computer gets to keep it

  • @elijahdiaz5914

    @elijahdiaz5914

    Жыл бұрын

    These Mr. Beast videos are crazy man

  • @EmuEmuchu

    @EmuEmuchu

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see linus and mr.beast Collab

  • @PCTutorialz

    @PCTutorialz

    Жыл бұрын

    the next mrbeast video

  • @rdraven7356

    @rdraven7356

    Жыл бұрын

    First one to leave an original comment wins. Too bad.

  • @CodiamondOfficial
    @CodiamondOfficial Жыл бұрын

    My inspiration for my new series on yt shorts is from you!! You have such a good channel! Edit: you have a sick intro too! 1:19

  • @GarageSupra
    @GarageSupra Жыл бұрын

    The impatience of the LTT guys is immeasurable. Fantastic.

  • @shiftahoy
    @shiftahoy Жыл бұрын

    very good timing, thank you LMG team

  • @hector6264
    @hector6264 Жыл бұрын

    I had to use this case with my spare matx motherboard to build my custom router, so this was really fun to watch! I found that undervolting (CO for the 5700x) helped a lot with thermals.

  • @spenceremous
    @spenceremous Жыл бұрын

    TSA is not gonna like this

  • @soadfanbg
    @soadfanbg Жыл бұрын

    I remember those cases. Back in the big chip shortage era, there weren't slim-design OEM PCs in stock. I had to get creative and assemble 5-6 PC for our Warehouse to be mounted under a working table in a very tight space.

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 Жыл бұрын

    You should have built it into the pelican case!

  • @n00615h
    @n00615h Жыл бұрын

    So it's 20k because it has 2x10k storage drives.....

  • @jasonthesnow
    @jasonthesnow Жыл бұрын

    This is such a crazy solution. I love this

  • @mully006
    @mully006 Жыл бұрын

    Sweet build, I assume you know this but there are pelican cases that are server racks. The rack is built right into the case and the front and back remove for access. Not carry on but very sick.

  • @qgame4941
    @qgame4941 Жыл бұрын

    Thats good timing for me. Thanks for the constant content

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын

    It's a bit funny how on the road the LTT team will be running Linux and macOS! But you use the right tool for the job and right now, Apple's laptops definitely blow away anything else for video editing. At least the Pro models with fans...

  • @habu30

    @habu30

    Жыл бұрын

    I also hope they won't need to use spotlight with truenas

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    @@habu30 Heh, you just make sure that's disabled on any network drives!

  • @midget_cannon8517
    @midget_cannon8517 Жыл бұрын

    I actually built a PC with the Silverstone SG13 case and put it in a Pelican 1510 and brought it halfway across the world with me. Had a Ryzen 5 1600 and a full-size msi 1060 6GB from my old system, along with a 120mm AIO in the front, M.2, 3.5" hard drive and a full-size power supply. Worked really well and even had extra space to hold my G-pro wireless and an XBOX controller.

  • @Calango741
    @Calango741 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to have seen you do a little more customizing in terms of cutting a hole for an intake fan and slap a grill over it and maybe some custom made heatsinks for the drives, of course, there was probably not enough room for that last one though.

  • @itsjoemybro
    @itsjoemybro Жыл бұрын

    Another great video LTT team.

  • @MWHM2
    @MWHM2 Жыл бұрын

    Both silverstone and fractal have some cases in that formfactor. Also there are ITX boards with 2 (and even 3) M.2 slots with raid 1 support, I think AsRock Rack even has an enterprise model in that formfactor. Could have saved you a lot of space and headaches (like those flexATX PSUs that are really annoying to work with)

  • @semi.
    @semi. Жыл бұрын

    8:17 Hoping IO shield is coming at some point

  • @brettdavis6361
    @brettdavis6361 Жыл бұрын

    another excellent TrueNAS SCALE use case!

  • @legion1791
    @legion1791 Жыл бұрын

    Really?? I though he would say "we are going to use a satellite connection to upload the videos" I was not expecting him to send his entire editing team 😂

  • @sambanna1982
    @sambanna1982 Жыл бұрын

    Should of definitely built direct into the peli case, it would of allowed for more room/air flow, more design choices and to see a linus build out a rugged server

  • @akaiappears

    @akaiappears

    Жыл бұрын

    *have

  • @himabimdimwim

    @himabimdimwim

    Жыл бұрын

    @@akaiappears go away

  • @sumitpurohit8849

    @sumitpurohit8849

    Жыл бұрын

    might not have enough time for that. or maybe someone in airport security would think of it as something illegal.

  • @akaiappears

    @akaiappears

    Жыл бұрын

    @@himabimdimwim there is nothing you can do.

  • @TheJenkins331
    @TheJenkins331 Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see you guys at CES this Year 😁

  • @telepresencebot2
    @telepresencebot2 Жыл бұрын

    FYI, I am currently running a 5950x with 64gb ram cooled by a noctua l9-a in an NFC S4 mini (which 100% fits in a backpack ez) and it's doing just fine. Granted it's not doing server workloads all the time, but it is both my work pc (devops and software dev, so docker containers and software compiling) and play pc (including steam vr, and AAA games). Doesn't ever go higher than ~85c. used to thermal throttle pretty bad, but dropped soc voltage and it lowered idle power consumption by nearly 20 watts and temps dropped off a cliff. I also have 2x 2TB m.2 drives in my itx board and 2x 2.5in drives on the drive bracket over the gpu, so could totally do redundant boot drives.

  • @nekomasteryoutube3232
    @nekomasteryoutube3232 Жыл бұрын

    I imagine it'll be nice to basically have your own portable "LTT" with your team at CES, on top of being scared of loosing or breaking any of the expensive stuff, I bet it's going to be a HUGE pain in the butt juggling all that luggage. Just glad I can stay up here in Canada and watch LTT do the heavy lifting instead of having to deal with all that anxiety on top of presenting (or doing editing, rendering, and publishing videos)

  • @GameTL
    @GameTL Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see, a vlog about the editing on the Macbooks. Just curious how they stack up compared to BIG "portable" laptop you guys used to bring to the convention. The tech gang vlog with Luu, Austin, MKBHD, UaC, jay....great memories

  • @RandomUser2401

    @RandomUser2401

    Жыл бұрын

    lol it really speaks a clear language if they compromise a bit of performance to get a stable experience and a slick laptop with significantly lower TDP. Macs are only for browsing facebook, right?

  • @brokawmike

    @brokawmike

    Жыл бұрын

    LTT’s audience is fairly unaware of how legitimately shocking Apple’s growth in enterprise has been, and these M series chips coupled with *NIX have been an absolute revelation. Before, you were paying more for the same or less performance, now, performance varies from slightly slower to significantly faster, while being able to do all of your work, off of battery, for hours and hours. Being able to trade a bit of render/compile/compute/whatever horsepower to not be tethered to a desk while getting a very easy to use UNIX subsystem is a big selling point.

  • @tinsucevic

    @tinsucevic

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a desktop machine with a 3070, 32 gbs ram and a ryzen 5. My similarly priced macbook is on par if not better than my desktop in most editing tasks. New arm based macs are beasts. They also mentioned that in the reviews of the macbooks.

  • @benbionic
    @benbionic Жыл бұрын

    Make the pelican case into a PC case! I've done it before with that same case and it worked amazing! Fans in walls, motherboard mounted to the bottom, and can do keystones for external ports that you need.

  • @MikeHarris1984
    @MikeHarris1984 Жыл бұрын

    You should turn a pelican case that is small enough to be a carry on, as a computer itself. custom make SSD shelves for it, PCIe risers with custom GPU/capture card shield and maybe motherboard extensions and have it when you open the lid, you have a flat panel of I/O to hook everything up. So you open up the case, you have a flat panel of just I/O and ventilation for fans/AIO Coolers, and you plug your monitor/keyboard/mouse/power cable/etc into the ports there and even make a pushpin to sound an alarm or custom trigger a popup on the monitor and if ignored for xx seconds, force shutdown so it doesn't overheat with the lid accidentally shut.

  • @arturkapitan5377
    @arturkapitan5377 Жыл бұрын

    I would have done this build when everyone is back in the office. You have all the tools like the cnc and laser cutter to make a fully custom pelli case build. Would have so much space and you could pack so much more in!

  • @weirdguybr

    @weirdguybr

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be a risky move - CES is first week of January (starts on Jan 5th, so they probably are going a day or two earlier), so if *anything* went wrong during the build, they could end up without gear for the trip.

  • @bilditup1
    @bilditup1 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve definitely had to pry off backplates from server boards like this. Best done by heating up using a hairdryer on low for a bit, but don’t overdo it One thing I’ll say though is that ZFS, if anything, will be /less/ susceptible and more resilient to memory errors than competing filesystems-the recommendation to use ECC with it is basically amounts to ‘look, you love your data, why screw around?’

  • @Moon-Haa

    @Moon-Haa

    Жыл бұрын

    It also helps a lot with making the system a lot more stable, more so since they will be at hotels and can't guarantee that the energy from the walls would be stable enough.

  • @bilditup1

    @bilditup1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Moon-Haa yeah, I absolutely do not fault them for this choice, and only take issue with the stated justification here

  • @dormantat
    @dormantat Жыл бұрын

    I’ve long wanted to have a workstation in a pelicase, but was thinking more along the lines of having some sort of frame in the case to hold the components. The computer would be run with the lid open, or maybe with some filtered holes drilled in the case. After my initial excitement at this video, I was disappointed that you were just building in a computer case that fits in the pelicase for transport. The reason I want it is that I travel a lot and often just take my NUC with me and borrow a monitor, keyboard and mouse. My laptop can’t do the job because I often need to leave a machine running all the time, acquiring data for up to a month. I’m currently trying to decide between buying a faster NUC (or NUCalike) or trying to build my peliPC.

  • @jlpechos
    @jlpechos Жыл бұрын

    I have this board in my unRAID server. The x570 chip needs some active cooling. ASRock engineered these with the assumption you would have them in a high airflow environment. There is a 40mm fan bracket for the x570 heatsink available on thingiverse for this exact board.

  • @Julianw.
    @Julianw. Жыл бұрын

    I really love that Linus is explaining everything he does so thoroughly, it’s really interesting and you learn a lot about troubleshooting.👍

  • @stephenking5772
    @stephenking5772 Жыл бұрын

    Did Linus push down on a PGA based CPU?

  • @bradlucid
    @bradlucid Жыл бұрын

    Nice build! at least the need to travel with this kind of equipment is not a regular... case

  • @Atheist7

    @Atheist7

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL!!!

  • @neuroplasticity
    @neuroplasticity Жыл бұрын

    I used that case to build my dad a low spec all day media use computer and it was really fucking nice. No real tools needed and very intuitive. The original power supply was also 425 watts so maybe it was a sightly different model but it's been over 2 years and still going strong.

  • @nickiebanchou
    @nickiebanchou Жыл бұрын

    100% i would make the pelican the actual case, wayyy enough space for some AIO or something and a couple real fans ...

  • @draskomarkovic
    @draskomarkovic Жыл бұрын

    Where are the vidoes from CES made with this computer.????

  • @gammafilter

    @gammafilter

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree I see no evidence this was even working since ltt didn't release any significant content at CES and they are slowly releasing it after the fact.

  • @OffensiveProduction1
    @OffensiveProduction1 Жыл бұрын

    Nice, just found out what I'm going to do with a micron 9300 pro 15tb nvme drive I have. Was thinking on how to use it, hidden gem in this video told me, lol.

  • @MegaMoon96
    @MegaMoon96 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure what the file size is, and its really cool having the editing team be on site and have access to all this hardware, My first thought was, just get a 5g mobile router for internet to send the raw photage back home! but then i remembered u need fast internet to upload to youtube, and THEN you pulled up the mobile router and now i'm thinking this was just your way of flexing/using leftover tech u have in storage XD but then again, as a hardware/software support, I would always rather be on site than remote into a client's PC from the outside lol

  • @binrat3020
    @binrat3020 Жыл бұрын

    6:30 typical Linus showing his skills in dropping things

  • @macdtravis
    @macdtravis Жыл бұрын

    Should have used the Pelican as the case, 3d print some custom mounting options. Will see more and more the use of portable servers in the future.

  • @connors3356
    @connors3356 Жыл бұрын

    I bought this exact case 2 years ago to be able to transport my computer between home and college. it is not a very good case but it is small. i had to do the same carving on my noctua as well. haha

  • @Merjia
    @Merjia Жыл бұрын

    This is such a highly specialized PC, I adore this stuff.

  • @dentjoener
    @dentjoener Жыл бұрын

    5950x at 100w ppt is easy on one of those. Source: my own tiny rig

  • @attilavs2
    @attilavs2 Жыл бұрын

    Is the pro vs consumer product a concept reconsidered, like quadro vs. geforce

  • @Outland9000
    @Outland9000 Жыл бұрын

    Like this 'tiny server' idea! Very neat.

  • @georgehavey
    @georgehavey Жыл бұрын

    You should rebuild this with all the networking, cellular and power *inside* the pelican case for the ultimate road warrior setup. Cut some flaps on the side for I/O, add some status LEDs. Just pop the lid for airflow...

  • @M.R._Saar
    @M.R._Saar Жыл бұрын

    Happy to see the MBP get some recognition. Honestly, if Adobe would spend the time optimizing their software, I’d bet the Mac would outperform the PC laptop he referred to.

  • @Pro720HyperMaster720
    @Pro720HyperMaster720 Жыл бұрын

    5:15 I mean ECO mode is an option, one that can handle and an R9 5950X in ECO mode can handle a lot more workstation loads than a R7 5700X no matter the mode (I think the ECO mode of the 5950X targets 65W as well) and if 8 cores is enough, the 5700G maybe can be a better choice, thanks to having an iGPU just in case, but I suppose at that point is a choice between iGPU or PCIe 4.0 (as the 5700G doesn’t have support for it for some reason)

  • @jierenzheng7670

    @jierenzheng7670

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought so too. Alternatively, since they can dremel, I guess they can use a NH-C14S or a Scythe Shuriken 3 for cooling the 5950x.

  • @Moon-Haa

    @Moon-Haa

    Жыл бұрын

    The motherboard they choose already has an "graphical card" built-in on the management controller, and it also has support for ipmi, so they don't need to have integrated graphics on the cpu itself.

  • @aa-yt7wo

    @aa-yt7wo

    Жыл бұрын

    I was wondering why they used a CPU that only supported PCIe 3.0 as well. Seems like the 5900 (non-x) would have been a better option if they could find one. 65w, 12-cores, PCIe 4.0.

  • @linuxpirate

    @linuxpirate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aa-yt7wo Your second point is spot on (I have one and love it) but the 5700X does support PCIe 4.0.

  • @jierenzheng7670

    @jierenzheng7670

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aa-yt7wo I know right? Else they can just run 5900x at ECO mode.

  • @andrewmalhotra
    @andrewmalhotra Жыл бұрын

    Super cool build!! But anyone else also disappointed that the pelican case wasn’t the computer case itself? Rather It was just what was holding the computer case for flying.

  • @oxotnik6129
    @oxotnik6129 Жыл бұрын

    Hey, i travel alot so i have my pc in a server rack (the server case fits a full size atx mobo, psu and nothing else, 4u high) and i have a custom made audio rack flightcase for it (plywood, metal edges, for bands touring etc). The true portable

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