Outsourcing both FF7R originally and FF9R is so wild

@backsider578

Ай бұрын

What I think is that the team didn't have a vision on how the game will be so they outsource it. Once they see the game progressing they got a good idea on where they want to go with the game.....used the asset that was already created and expand on it

@keiichimorisato98

Ай бұрын

And FFXI.

@salmark9080

Ай бұрын

think of how many mega fans always saying “I can do a good job, better than the creators”. I guess they believed them lol

@RCDeschene

Ай бұрын

The thing is though, Square kind of has to outsource where they can because they need to keep spending low until they resolve their botched AAA business model.

@unstoppableforcevsimmovabl1701

Ай бұрын

Because there a business first and that is cheaper so makes sense tbf

I want this game SO badly, praying its faithful to the ART STYLE. My favorite game of all time.

@lanisolfire5692

Ай бұрын

100%

@Antispor

Ай бұрын

The art style is the one thing I hope they change. This game looks so silly with the chibi characters. It’s hard to take seriously.

@thatstheway2429

Ай бұрын

The art style was magical. The locations looked awesome for a ps1 game.

@Substantial-hf1rm

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately with Nomura having so much influence these days I'd be shocked if the cast didn't look like a J-pop group in the remake.

@lookhowshegobbledthat

Ай бұрын

@@Antispor The art style is the best part of FF9

I don't know why but I have always had a good feeling that the 9 Remake will be good despite how long it's taken.

@jambyr2579

Ай бұрын

i hope this ages well

@katherinemerkel3505

Ай бұрын

Probably because Kitase Nojima and Nomura aren’t around to butcher it.

@thatstheway2429

Ай бұрын

@@katherinemerkel3505they were around and didn’t butcher 7R either. rebirth is the second highest rated FF game ever made, only behind…FFIX.

@redinthesky1

Ай бұрын

They should give it to whoever remade Starocean 2. Heh.

@katherinemerkel3505

Ай бұрын

@@thatstheway2429 Which means nothing when the story turned to shit. The rest of the game may be amazing but alas a positive metric doesn’t change the fact that the writing is bad.

SquareEnix is my favorite Japanese publisher/studio along with Fromsoft, i really hope they get their sht together because there is a finite number of failures any given company can take. A game industry without SE would suck

@mattbrown9631

Ай бұрын

would absolutely suck

@stanislavkimov2779

Ай бұрын

Yeah, what would we do without Forspoken.

@mattbrown9631

Ай бұрын

@@stanislavkimov2779 that was published by SE, not an inhouse SE game

@stanislavkimov2779

Ай бұрын

@@mattbrown9631 this is true.

@__BlacklotuS__

Ай бұрын

monolithsoft is the best japanese developer

As a general rule of thumb all FF games in the mainline franchise (be they remake or not) DESERVE the attention and focus IN HOUSE. Always! No exceptions!

@kennethdavy4051

Ай бұрын

Right It’s their bread and butter Idk how they messing with their money like that 😂

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

The problem is SE only has so many units. Given those are always working on something there's not much room for these remake projects. I'm not sure what CBU1 was doing prior to being given FF7R but I wouldn't be surprised that it was FF16 and they scratched that and gave it to CBU3. Which leads me to wonder who got FF9R.. Again there's not that many options. Either CBU1 is doing yet another remake alongside 7R which would be kind of sad for them creatively speaking. Or it's CBU3 but tbh I liked FF16 with the fights and such. But I don't like the idea of FF9R following that studios framework that they use for FF14/16. Any other options I honestly don't know? Did they secretly create a new division? Who the hell is doing this inhouse these days.

Apparently they don't wanna do a FF8 remake. to me its the one the needs a revamp more than any of the others.

@Biddybalboa

Ай бұрын

No one cared about 8 until square started delivering on 7 and 9

@K7TZ

Ай бұрын

As an ff8 fan, i disagree. Ff6 and ff7 needs it more.

@mr.sinjin-smyth

Ай бұрын

No thanks. They'll splinter FF8 into another 10-year trilogy again. Too much unnecessary padding like FF7 remake trilogy.

@m4ur1r4g3

Ай бұрын

@@Biddybalboa It doesn't matter what you say, 8 almost sold double (FF9 - 5.5mil | FF8 - 9.6mil) lol

@m4ur1r4g3

Ай бұрын

@@mr.sinjin-smyth that doesn't make sense, with that logic they would do the same with 9 lol

If IX does get remade, I'd like to see the Trance system be tweaked a bit and not require the player to "use it or lose it" randomly. I'd like to be able to save Trance status until I want to use a Trance command, similar to how VII's Limit Break status didn't go away until the player chose to the Limit Break on the character who currently had that.

@Atom-yb5dy

Ай бұрын

This exists already on the PC version with the moguri mod. It is so good

How do I contact SE to politely ask them for no plot ghosts? 👻

@TheNightSkyPrince

Ай бұрын

😂

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

​​@@dayzovci finally finished Stranger of Paradise and discovered it had a DLC. Im glad i watched spoilers for the DLC rather than buying it because they directly tied Stranger of Paradise (and therefore FF1) into Dissidia.

I can’t stop looking at NSP’s right arm being so light while he’s so tanned😂

I wonder why square does not get the Octopath team to do a some of the remakes of the older FF. I think that team could do something nasty GOOD with FF 1-6

@veganzombie87anthonymerric44

Ай бұрын

100% agree👌

@damagon647

Ай бұрын

Been thinking this for so long but with the existence of the Pixel Remasters i dont see this happening at least anytime soon. Heres hoping for it becoming a reality one day though

@BlueHarvey

Ай бұрын

We just got the Pixel Remasters and too far back. As much as I'd love an Octopath style approach for those games, I doubt SE would justify recreating those games yet again already. I just don't want to get hyped about something thats relatively unlikely to occur.

@extra4542

Ай бұрын

seriously, they should’ve done that instead of the pixel remasters, same with FFT.

@Antispor

Ай бұрын

They literally did that back on the DS

If this game was in turn based and people don't buy this more than remake and xvi i will be PISSED, brutally upset, because the fans every fucking time ask for turn based, i'm tired of this discourse, let's see how this ends. FFIX is my fav, better they do something good!

@TheSwordOfBathelion

Ай бұрын

I prefer to think most fans like both turnbased and non turnbased its just vocal minority on each side fighting.

@Great.Gospel

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately SE lost a lot of traction with older fans over the years and their marketing clearly hasn't been enough to capture a massive new player base just yet so it still may be a while before they're able to recreate the magic they once had. They'll have to re-use FF7R's battle system with tweaks/upgrades for people to trust their identity in the franchise going forward, otherwise people won't be confident they're going to get a fun game to play. There is no point in wasting everyone's time and their own money trying to reinvent the wheel so if something mind blowing surfaces in the gaming industry and changes action combat then they can just "borrow" from their concept.

@dandandan8686

Ай бұрын

@@Great.Gospel resident evil make Money with first and third person, FF can experiment a turn based game, what i want to see is the fucking dinossaurs turn based fans giving it a chance. If what Midori said about turn based was real, for sure.

@phrofile3613

Ай бұрын

Idk how much copies Persona series has sold. But im sure turn based combat is not dead.

@playboy_x

Ай бұрын

@@TheSwordOfBathelionit’s 2024, you’re not gonna sell to a larger audience with turn based combat.

I choose to believe that the version that was being worked on was probably fine until the fan made demo dropped last year showing a proof of concept. That demo was so well received I have a feeling Square felt they had to go back to the drawing board as the version that was previously being worked on was probably not up to the same standard which would have raised a fair few eyebrows

If this is a legit remake of IX that keeps the turn based ATB, I’ll preorder the most expensive version of this thing the moment it’s officially announced.

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

And if it's action ATB then you will spam the forums and game comment setions full of hate yes? 😂

If it's a traditional remake, then I am buying it twice.

@imaginator85

Ай бұрын

I see your double purchase and raise you by one more.

@christianlopez707

Ай бұрын

@@imaginator85 Then I will buy it 4 times. One physical and one digital for both PS5 and Switch.

@lanisolfire5692

Ай бұрын

Looks like everyones getting a copy of ff9r for christmas this year

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

Story wise or gameplay wise though? Because I can guarantee you these high expectations based on naive hope will fuel negativity post reveal. It's the same every single time with remakes and certain toxic IP (especially SE ones).

@mytyhekiller4

Ай бұрын

Yes, important to show that we don't want creative freedom nor ambitious retellings! We want unambitious shot-for-shot remakes of games we have already played 20 times for God's sake!

They may also be waiting on Switch 2 to be revealed for an announcement as well since I can see FF9R being super successful there

Keep it smaller scale, keep it faithful: that's what I hope to see from FFIX. Rebirth an Remake were great but I recognize a lot of older players don't like the story changes and I don't need them either (though I liked them).

@phrofile3613

Ай бұрын

FF7 got a lot of spin offs. And remake project is to connect all of them together. Im sure FF9 will be faithful

@Handles_are_garbage

Ай бұрын

@@phrofile3613 but if it's getting an anime there's still scope for them to mess it up

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

Yeah story wise faithfull but with these things you have to make small changes and additions. So if fans rage at a small change or addition thats remakes for you. It can't be 1:1 when we're dealing with multiple gen old games that used text bubbles for character development. Gameplay wise really anything can happen. My gut says zones + action ATB. But maybe they manage to make it open world. Maybe it is turn based insanely so. Who knows really.

im so glad they went the route to do FF7R in house, cloud’s original model always looked so sickly to me. not to mention we got such an amazing game as a result

I'm honestly glad they did this and took it inhouse. The game will be better for it.

Considering that FF9 was supposed to be a return to basics for Final Fantasy, changing the battle system would be pointless. The game was made as a return to a more traditional style Final Fantasy, unlike FF7 and FF8 that had released before it

@Key-Knight87

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@Soooooooooooonicable

Ай бұрын

it will be the final nail in the coffin for me if they remake FF9 as an action rpg 😐

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

And yet they will probably just have it play like FF7R and you will hate it for that right? I find it incredibly naive how the oldschool FF fanbase keeps shooting themselves in the foot expectations wise. It almost feels deliberate at this point and an excuse to hate on SE. Because the odds this will be turn based are closer to 15% at this point.

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

@@Soooooooooooonicable Yep see, there's no indication SE will ever go back to turn based with their AAA line of games excluding Dragon Quest (for obvious reasons) and yet people like you keep fueling expectations only for those to translate into hate and toxicity after the reveal. Why not safe yourself, the IP and the fans the pain and negativity and just give up on it now? Because I can guarantee you that this is exactly what will happen with the reveal of the game. No matter how good it looks. People will have their own personal expectations which are based on absolutely nothing but copium. And use that to negatively spam the comment section of any video featuring the game. No other game series has such a negative sigma because of it's fans like FF, it's so sad.

@Key-Knight87

Ай бұрын

@@mikev8746 The whole premise of FF9 is that it's supposed to pay tribute to the older classics of FF. That includes it's combat. It really doesn't need a remake to begin with unlike 8 or 13. Your argument would maybe be valid for any other remake, but this remake is a remake of a game that's supposed to feel retro. Also what's wrong with FF fans having a preference on gameplay? I feel like the negativity is less about if the game is turn based or nowadays.. Seeing how the team handled Rebirth's story, I'd say fans are rightfully more worried about that right now...

I just want Final Fantasy IX R to have a faster battle system .

@deedoubs

Ай бұрын

I want it to have more interesting combat. FF9 always felt to me like the devs looked at all the interesting stuff that happened between FF5-FF8 and said "Nah, we don't need any of that. Let's just go back to FF4... uh, we can keep blue magic too I guess."

@SuperKendoman

Ай бұрын

Yet more soul less action RPGs, oh boy! Enjoy your tasteless remake slop

@deedoubs

Ай бұрын

@@SuperKendoman You realize you can have a faster battle system without it being an action RPG right? Like Persona 5's battle system is snappy, it speeds up the navigation of menus by binding basic attacks to one button and abilities to another, it has you select targets using the directional buttons *before* picking your action... there are lots of little things you can do in a turn based game to make it a better feeling experience. FF9 is disliked in this regard because it was slow as molasses, it had one of the worst implementations of ATB in the series, battles all started with a 10 second pan over your characters and all of the enemies loading in one by one, it uses the same old school menus but they have a delay to them... and then it just ends up being the worst in the series by having the longest least responsive feeling battles.

@KrakkaJax

Ай бұрын

@@SuperKendomanbut I enjoyed the remake slop 😢

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

​@@deedoubs it'll be action combat rhough. Square has completely moved away from turned based final fantasy exceot on mobile.

As long as Square puts as much love and dedication into this remake as with FF7...which I doubt, but I'll be mad if we get a half-assed product, especially in the midst of a highly acclaimed 7R run. Really not expecting this to also be divided into 3, although it really could be just as easily as 7 was. They could even flesh out some bits that got shortchanged in the OG, like Freya's story, or the relative downtime of disc 3 where you find a whole new continent and barely anything happens there. Oh and if there's not more Beatrix I'll have to riot.

Could you imagine what an amazing switch 2 launch title this would be? Not exclusive just same date launch.

@arvinjay336

Ай бұрын

It will definitely come there along with 7R and hell maybe even FFXV

One of the best things about FFIX was that after VII and VIII(both of them I love), IX was a return to a more traditional final fantasy story. And for sure, day one purchase for me. Especially if it comes to the switch/switch2

I literally cant sit still wondering when the official reveal for this is going to happen

If i can get this game on switch 2 i will be more than happy, 9 is my favorite in the series and getting a remake of it, action or turn based is more than welcomed. Btw, has anybody told you that you have a great voice for this?.

I am ALL OVER this! FFIX is my favorite game of all time and I will be one of the first in line! Not for preorder, though. I don't do preorders of any game.

It’s not as simple as just everybody that wanted that suddenly coming back. What we need to understand is that fans of the old school games slowly started to leave since 12 came out. Disappointment after disappointment is what made a lot of them never ever come back. My best buddy was a huge fan and he loves how Rebirth looks but he just doesn’t feel attracted to play it and seems to be hooked on Elden Ring and From Soft games now. They just didn’t feed their fans as they were supposed to and lost them. That’s it.

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

True, people moved on. I can relate because I'm like this with Blizzard games. I think when you lose people you kind of lose them permanently. This is kind of a lesson in life in general. This is why relationship building is vital in any field. And keeping it healthy. SE should not focus on trying to get the old fans back therefor. Focus on what is there now and build on that.

I am ready. Very ready. 20 something years ready.

What if CU3 is now in charge of FF9 remake, and that's why YoshiP brought back Sakaguchi, as a consultant maybe.

@BrainBox_NoThoughts

Ай бұрын

Gas

@keinchi

Ай бұрын

I could believe this tbh, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if his company was the outsourced company that was working on it.

@acidxcross

Ай бұрын

Also the next FFXIV expansion dawntrail is releasing with lots of FFIX itens. Zidane/Dagger minions, ark mount, they have the assets ready.

@Calvinooi

Ай бұрын

As much as I love CBU3, they should focus on MMOs. I don't want FFIX to be another offline MMO-esque game like FF16 with bare minimum non-combat sections

@dacienvegas2712

Ай бұрын

@@Calvinooi All reports indicate is a very faithful remake, including turn based battle system. None of that FF7 nonsense. So whoever is in charge, will respect the source material this time.

I really hope the FF9 remake is just an Crisis Core Reunion situation where it's just the same game but expanded, polished, and remade.

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

Why? Why wouldn't you want FF9 to get a proper remake treatment like RE4R for example? I don't get this sentiment. It reeks of fear of the unknown.

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

They could do with revamping the long drawn out story sequences. Though part of that is the lenghy dialogue that would go smoother with voice acting. I can't tell you how many times ive fallen asleep trying to play through FF9.

When you think about, all these potential remake ideas would indeed be FF7R levels of scope: FF6 Remake would be too complex given there are 14 playable characters FF8 Remake would need tons of rework and refactoring from the original’s gameplay. Especially the Junction System FF10 Remake is practically less urgent as the original already has voice acting and good graphics. A 10-3 is most plausible but that is a high priority task there. FF9 is easily the least problematic remake out of all them. Not only that, but the game is adored by fans, it’s a perfect opportunity for a mainline title to return to turn based, and the scope of the game is not as large as FF7 Remake

@Handles_are_garbage

Ай бұрын

7R did a complete overhaul of the battle system so we can assume that if they're remakes in that sense then 8 will be so far removed from the original junctioning system that you won't need to worry (and I suspect the change might actually sell people on the benefits of the original). The bigger problem for 8 is the story: 7R has usurped the time travel themes of 8. I am already of the opinion that the writers at SquareEnix are creatively bankrupt, but releasing two games with convoluted time travel plots so close to each other will really expose them imo.

@irritableindian

Ай бұрын

Perfect comment, you summed everything up so well.

@mikev8746

Ай бұрын

Scope wise you are on point to be honest. I find it laughable people think FF7R could have ever fit into one game at AAA production levels and scope. But I think FF9 could kinnddd of work that way if they just really go all out on the content and over deliver (because it's still multiple continents and dozens of locations, including a secondary world). Gameplay wise I think you are setting yourself up for negativity and hate just like many others. I absolutely do not mind turn based (love Persona, love Dragon Quest, love the newer Yakuza games). But it's very clear SE wants to see how much they can grow the FF9 IP and they also have hopes it will resonate with younger kids. It's their shot at the whole Disney angle with FF. So they would not in a million years go through all this IP growing efforts (even announcing a animated series and so forth) and then limiting their audience to oldschool vets who (for some reason, hyper focus on turn based combat being present in FF). Younger kids in the age range of 8-16 these days just don't care about turn based and don't even want to try it. So unless their expectations for FF9R are squarely focused on the older audience (they are not so numerous as they think they are). Then no this wont be turn based and probably plays as an evolution of FF16/FF7R combat wise. So it could certainly happen that it is turn based. But it will fly against any indication we've gotten from SE and the rumors regarding FF9 as an IP and their plans for it. Expecting this will just lead to the reveal of FF9R to once again be mired in negativity and toxicity no matter how good it looks. Because the comment sections and message boards will be full of people that set themselves up for failure for years and are now going crashing down hard and fast. And I just think this is one of the deeper roots of the problem. Ignoring actual logic and indications in the vain hope of sentiment and hoping reality to align with that. And then following your emotions to conclusion when it does not.

My hopes: - Granblue Fantasy Relink/Valkyria Chronicles art style (anime but with highlighted pencil/brush marks, like concept art come to life) while keeping the 'deformed' dimensions of the characters. Basically playable FMV models. - A little extra content that gives Freya and Amarant some more story beats. - Fight all four elemental fiends as the different characters. - Sped up battle system and the ability to trigger Trance after filling a bar. - Dragon Quest XI style overworld, including enemies on the field. - Some tweaks to Tetra Master so it isn't so random. Hell I'd be ok with them just redoing it altogether like Queen's Blood or just transplanting Triple Triad in its place. - Some way to track friendly monsters and the quiz monster.

I love how you point out that rumors are lies until they are confirmed. Everyone else just says they are rumors and don't give that much emphasis to the potential untruth side.

Awesome. Thank you.

Bro it's 3 times. XI was getting a mobile remake by a Chinese dev until Square had the same appraisal and outright cancelled it

I will buy multiple copies of this game if they do it right. I will buy ALL the merch. ALL THE THINGS. I'm replaying OG for the millionth time right now.

If 9 is turn based the game will struggle to sell over 1M

@You-ud2fp

Ай бұрын

Nah lol Turned based games still sell very well.

@YPYT90

Ай бұрын

@@You-ud2fp name one? And a remake?

@mr.sinjin-smyth

Ай бұрын

Persona 5 and Dragon Quest 11 sold well over 5 million. Falcom's Trails games have been selling really well also.

@YPYT90

Ай бұрын

@@mr.sinjin-smyth those are new games and triple AAA. This is a remake. All turn based remakes have been selling under 1M

@mr.sinjin-smyth

Ай бұрын

@@YPYT90 Persona 3 remake sold over 1 million in first week release. Baldur's Gate 3 sold well over 10 million. The appeal for turn based games is as strong as ever.

I don’t know about y’all but I’m anxious as hell to find out what voice actors they are going to hire for these roles. I have a few set voices in my head and I really hope they are at least close. 😅

It all makes sense because these project pipelines were probably decided and commissioned much earlier so it takes awhile to apply what you’ve learnt 🧐 and pulling it in-house would hopefully have some “economies of scale” whereby they can reuse technology and assets, etc.. hopefully this is a good direction for them!!

If this is a turn based remake, I'll be picking it up day one.

I'm going to buy a copy for every system I own.

No surprise that SE fumbled the start of two Remake projects. I also can’t not see FFIXR selling well since it’ll be releasing on everything.

@NightSkyPrince you forgot the other leaker forgot the name but the one with the profile pic of Silksong did say FF9Remake was ALWAYS MULTIPLAT but he did say it originally started as a Switch exclusive..

This year is the 25th anniversary of FF IX so I'm hoping they at least announce it this year, even if it doesn't come out until next year. That being said, as long as they keep the original battle system I am okay with it being like the Trials of Mana remake. Edit: My mistake; next year is the game's 25th Anniversary. This year it's Final Fantasy VIII.

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

Trials of mana remake was fantastic. On my third playthrough.

@dale117

29 күн бұрын

Next year's the 25th anniversary. It was released in 2000.

@drewtheunspoken3988

29 күн бұрын

@@dale117 That's why I added the "edit" at the bottom. I could have just changed the original post, but I thought it was funnier to leave it.

@dale117

28 күн бұрын

@@drewtheunspoken3988 whoops, not sure how I missed that 😅

if they do a traditional turn based im buying 5 copies!

@imaginator85

Ай бұрын

Same. I'll buy a digital copy on each of my systems and each version of physical special editions. Lol

I am glad that Square Enix is not pulling a Square Enix with this remake's release like they did with Final Fantasy VII Remake. They announced that game way too early, but then they shifted development completely and had to basically start from scratch, but this all happened after the game was already formally announced. For this game the same mistakes were made (which in itself is its own problem that they did not learn from their previous mistakes) but at the very least they at least did not announce this game years too early.

We don’t need remakes we need a Good original FF game

I remember some of the articles from back then. I thought the story actually went that SE outsourced to CC2 only for the CG, not the programming/development. Eventually SE announced that they were scrapping it and redoing the artwork themselves. True, I don't recall a reason being given, but it could just be that the media were way too trigger-happy on pulling stories together, and SE had officially announced it at that stage, but there is a chance that pulling it over to in-house was always on the cards, and that CC2 were just meant to help with look-dev. This's way more likely than making a big mistake twice, that they actually do it this way to spare their own pre-production time and fast-track to a workable base.

As a creator of 3D assets. I don't frown on SquareEnix giving newcomers a chance to prove themselves. However, I speak on the 3D asset, animation, and development, excluding the story writing. I am sure SquareEnix outsources because of the number of projects they usually have running and to cut down production times. As senior developers could correct mistakes made by newcomers just like a teacher would do in a classroom.

Let's not forget that SqEnix also outsourced the FF11 Mobile Remake to Nexon, which eventually got cancelled. That one still stings. The screenshots they released were so beautiful. And I'm probably in the minority here thinking that FF9 doesn't really need a remake, I feel like that game still holds up pretty well compared to other FFs. But that being said, it's still gunna be a day one purchase because SqEnix needs to keep hearing the message that we want more games like it.

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

FF9 is one of the worst in the series in my opinion. Ive fallen asleep so many times trying to slog through it. It needs a remake mkre than any of them. Now i have a bit of a bias that i managed to brick my game twice on a single save. Once by doing a puzzle in the wrong order to try to find secrets (game design dodnt account for thst and there was no way to fix it) and the second was taking all the mages to the no magic dungeon (i was thinking about who Zidane wanted to protect and forgot that i was very explicitly told it was no magic and thars why Kuja couldnt go) So i had to play through the game thrre times just to finish it once. And im the tyoe that does everything including that insane jump rope minigame.

Probably the one final fantasy that doesn't need a remake

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

Its the one that needs it the most. I think its the least playable mainline FF - even below FF2.

I really do not want a turn based combat system in big 2024 and onwards. The FF7 Remake battle system should be the blueprint for future FF games. Having a turn based combat system is just so regressive.

@arvinjay336

Ай бұрын

I'm surprised no one got triggered by your comment yet 😅 honestly for me whatever combat 9R has, be it Atb or Action like 7R's pretty fine by it.

I would have liked to have seen CC2's take on FF9. That said, I can also see why Square would have taken it back if they had an extremely specific idea for how a remake would look, because CC2 have a certain style to how they do things - especially RPGs - and Square are... well, they're Square. They are extremely tough to predict because they have their hands in WAY too many pies, and that often results in things being very hard to predict.

Apparently on the live letter for XIV yoshi p said he’s not working on a ff9 remake and he even said to those who are hearing rumors of a FF9 remake to make sure your sources are true. He said it himself so I will be waiting until then when they announce there next game themselves!

They should let the guys behind the Memoria project have a hand in it.

If 9 remake is just a reskin ill most likely pass if i want turn base ill just go play the original

I'm super excited

I fear an unambitious shot for shot remake is coming our way. I'll pass if all they do is upgrade graphics to Mana remake level

Also might I add... a lot of the early access goodies for Final Fantasy XIV are FFIX themed. And Yoshi P said that we'd find out why later. I wonder if this is in relation to the remake??

If this actually happens, I will be thrilled and I plan to buy a copy for sure - and major props to SE for not jumping the gun on the announcement as they so often have done in the past. If it doesn't happen, then all these reliable leakers will be taking a huge hit to their reputation. And if it happens, I'm a little concerned about the product as "multi-platform" because that word to me means more games like FFXIII and FFXV, but this might be the test that proves the success of a multi-platform game in terms of both game quality and financial success.

I'm willing to put in the work even before release. For one, it sounds like they are handling it right, but the risk is so much lower than the reward if it ends up being good. If that game is good, don't you worry - I'll do what I did with BG3 and outside of spreading the good word, a ton of my friends will suddenly have it in their library. Magically.

I do wonder how the art style for FF9R will be, I highly doubt they will try and emulate the CGI look of the characters faithfully. Even if I kinda like that aestetic, I do think it will be very offputting to many people.

when i read your title of the video, i had a suspicion that it was outsourced and then scraped to be done in-house, and lo and behold...lol. it does explain a lot also, yeah for those who dont want ps5 exclusives and turn-based combat should really vote with their wallets on this one if it is turn-based and multiplatform from launch.

Im not 100% sold on this games existance but if its real i can die happy. This was my intro ff and still my favorite

Fans have been enjoying the most popular FF remake, time for the best FF to get its remake. Just keep it ATB!

@Handles_are_garbage

Ай бұрын

Tactics didn't have ATB ;)

I'm so excited about the idea of FF9 getting remade. It was always the most interesting one to me, being super hard on the fantasy.

Thank you being so kind all mighty loving God help me and these people to become more like u

It's just not a good idea to make final fantasy episodic. FF 7 remake will take about 10 years or more to be complete. It would have been better to just re work the scenarios and make a single game, since they already made so many changes anyway.

I believe I heard correctly, in the recent interview with the devs of ff7 rebirth, they outsourced some stuff on the world map, so I think its just the way Square does things, even if it is to speed things up, or get others to start the process and then clean by the end, but I guess that's why we see so many inconsistencies in the games being released.

Doesn't matter if FF9 remake is a turned based or action based, it's still a day 1 purchase for me. I am going to pre order it from my local game shop once it's announced.

I think FF9R will be more similar to how Capcom approached RE2/RE4 Remake, where everything is familiar but slightly bigger, tuned up and built for modern hardware capabilities, the scale in the grand scheme of things is exactly the same. As opposed to FF7remake/rebirth which are a scaling up of the original story.

Hopefully we don’t get any Whispers or timeline-time travel BS with this remake!

@maxveritas57

Ай бұрын

It's not going to be a big remake, probably pretty light budget, not a huge fanbase.

7:10 my thoughts exactly. Rebirth was the FF everyone wanted for so long, but it released and it seems many just skipped it. So if FF9R comes out and also underperforms, then Square honestly needs to stop listening to the fans/people because those people are not putting their wallet where their mouth is.

@JamesThomasJeans

Ай бұрын

I want more turn-based Final Fantasy games. I'm just not that fond of these action games that use the Final Fantasy name. If FFIX Remake is a turn based RPG, I'll pre-order the thing.

@major_trenton

Ай бұрын

@@JamesThomasJeans We need more of you lol.

@Artimes.

Ай бұрын

@@JamesThomasJeans we old people lol, plus my hands cramp up when ever I play action intensive games. Just give me turn based. Something laid back, that is what an rpg is anyways.

@phrofile3613

Ай бұрын

No one skips Rebirth lol wtf you smoking?

@Artimes.

Ай бұрын

@@phrofile3613 I think he might of meant that certain content could be skipped because of how much side material there is and padding. I know for a fact i still have not even beaten the game, but even i am starting to get a little burnt out. I am on the last region but you have to pace your self, the game is just massive. A little to big imo.

If this game is faithful to the art and has great quality of life features I think it will be their best selling rpg in years! I love the FF7R battle system but I do want them to have a new mainline FF with turn based combat.

Remaking 9 gets us one step closer to them remaking 8 which I hope would be with 7R combat system

They better fix thunder slash, can’t believe they didn’t just fix that in the remaster

I'm still so not normal about the possibility of this FF9 Remake, I love it dearly and I HOPE its good! I'm so excited for what's to come with this title and what they do with it. CROSSING MY FINGERS ITS TURNED BASED TOO If it is, if it meets atleast 1 of my hopes, you bet your ass i'm sticking with this project through til the end.

I want it so bad i just hope they do voice acting!

They did it at least 3 times. 14 was outsourced, and they rewrote it from scratch, in-house, after launch.

6:33 onwards - I heard what u did there, personally my GOTY, Stellar Blade together with FF7 Rebirth

Oh man, I don't know for the others, but you can be sure that if FF9 Remake is what we expect it to be (turn-based, faithful to the original, and all that), I will put my money where my mouth is and get that game Day 1. This would be a great way to send a clear message to SquareEnix: if you respect your fanbase and give us what we want, you'll get our money.

For my opinion, I wonder if they'll keep the combat the same as the original or changing up a little for new fans and old ones that get used to news combat.

@Snzn18

Ай бұрын

They probably should improve on the combat system. Cause although Ff9 is good. The it's combat system isn't really that notable

@darrel7493

Ай бұрын

I wonder how they would do the combat. It can't work like 7 remake. In 7 each character had a different fighting style but they were still fighters who could stand on there own, and the party was mostly inter-changeable. In 9 though there is distinct character classes, making things more team based. It is possible to make Garnet into an action oriented cleric, and vivi fight like Aerith, but I don't see that. It would be better off with a baldur's gate 3 type style.

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

​​@@darrel7493'balders gate 3 type style' translates to FF Tactics or FF12. Neither of which is likely It will either be turn based or ff7r style.

@darrel7493

Ай бұрын

@@justinwhite2725 . Balders gate 3 is turn based. I mentioned it since it is turn base system that is popular, as opposed to the old jrpg style where everyone stands in a line. Action oriented ff7r only worked because every character in that can heal, do black magic, and fight using abilities. Incorporating it for ff9 would mean getting rid of the role based class system ff9 has. If one characters is too be a heavy tank, another a healer, and another a strict black mage, then it needs a modernized team combat type system.

Zidane, Garnet, Steiner, Vivi, Freya, Beatrix. Special game What was the villain's name, Kuja?

For me, I am ok with a studio developing the FF Remakes in house or 3rd party as long as the final product holds up and stays true enough to most of the source material. Overall, I want to see the FFIX Remake and an actual remake of FFVIII. Not the half-baked FFVIII Remaster we got with no wide screen support. Moving beyond FF though, it is about time we get remakes of Xenogears and Parasite Eve games. Those were some of my best times with gaming from Square.

man if we get a modern ATB FF, i will explode with happiness. And if it’s on Steam, bruhh being able to play my favorite FF modernized and on the go with my Steam Deck… 🤯

We will be buying especially if it is multiplaform 👀

Final Fantasy IX is one of my favorite games ever, but I do NOT them to go way they went with FF7R. Not that Rebirth is bad, quite the opposite, it's that SE spent too much money on a Sony exclusive game. The FF community is big, but not big enough make so that Square could earn all that money back so quickly. So, this FFIX Remake must have a much more modest cost. I want is for them to improve on the overall experience of OG game.

How would this game be broken up? Would it be if the game used a more cartoon style graphics as opposed to viir’s realistic? I feel like when it comes to travel locations ix was the longest game. But what takes up the most space in games today?

@drewtheunspoken3988

Ай бұрын

It sounds like the game will be halfway between a remaster and a remake. We should get the whole thing at once.

As a traditionalist final fantasy fan, I will be there for this game at launch.

Hmmmm. I've been reading the comments, and it seems to me what most fans are describing they want is closer to being a remaster than a remake.... and that's cool and all. But, I think I personally would be disappointed with that. I am a hard-core FFIX fan. It is my all-time fav video game. But, if I want the same exact experience as playing the original... I will play the original. Don't get me wrong. I'm not wanting huge earth-shattering changes made. But if they're calling it a remake, it needs to live up to the name. Otherwise, just call it a remaster so our expectations can be made accordingly. I know this might be unrealistic, and I might be the only fan who feels this way, but I would love to see FFIX remake receive the level of love the FFVII Remake series did. When the original FFIX first came out, it had some of the most beautiful graphics, which are still quite beautiful over 20 years later. And I can't help imagining how beautiful and amazing it would be to have that same beautiful artstyle come to life in the way they have done the FFVII remake series. I want to turn on FFIX remake for the first time and have my mind completely blown, just like it was when I first played the OG all those years ago. I know this title is near and dear to so many people, myself included. But I don't want an updated copy-and-paste of FFIX with voices added. But that's just me... and maybe I'm the only one who feels that way.

I think there is just this mainstream expectation that everything has to be AAA to be good and considered high quality standards in the industry but that isn't the case at all for many different video game publishers. Quite frankly I think the kinds of games, these remasters and smaller scale revivals of classic franchises, 2DHD remakes are what is keeping the industry afloat and there working. They don't take near as long to develop, they also make alot of money in sales and the return investment is so much greater then these AAA projects. The profit loss in dev AAA just isn't worth it and the time investment it takes, thats why these guys have to spoil us and market games for the next 5 years somehow, to get there annual revenue. Nintendo figured that out along time ago.

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

The 2DHD games were largely a flop (from Squares perspective) and Square had indicated an unwillingness to continue doing them. Here's hoping DQ3 remake changes their mind.

i think it's not announced because it's a switch 2 launch game

FF9 could definitely use some combat improvements

I want to summon Ark and have the animation play for 10000 mins while auto-regen heals all my hp to max.

Stab me in the heart with this! 9 was sensational.

Not really about two years ago there were rumours of it getting moved in house

I wonder if SE is actually using outsourcing as a way to prototype....

It's my opinion that final fantasy 1 through 6 including, could be remade, quite well and fast, using only FF 14 assets.

I was still shocked they would ever let anyone touch their original gems tbh. Should always be in-house imo. Day 1 purchase for me if they don't mess the combat up. Same with any of the FF games before 13 and 15 (I like 13 but don't feel that needs a remake)

Personally, I believe ff9 doesn't need a remake, the most it could do with is a remaster so that the graphics of the game can adjust & acclimate with the high level of graphics of this current generation