This dodge tech changed how I play Wuthering Waves
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After soloing the new Crownless Hologram with Encore, I learned a lot about dodging, dodge timings, and iframes. This Delayed Counter mechanic made the fight a lot easier, so I wanted to share how it works. Hopefully my explanations make sense, let me know if you have any questions!
I stream Wuthering Waves ➻ / sweetily
0:00 Intro
0:37 2 Types of Dodges
1:35 Dodge Frame Data (Height Matters)
2:36 Dodging Multi-hit Attacks
3:48 Dodge Counter Mechanics
4:25 Delayed Counter
5:26 Dodge 1 - Safe Dodge
5:49 Dodge 2 - Quick Counter
6:15 Dodge 3 - Delayed Counter
7:40 Ending Thoughts
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So it turns out this does NOT work on Jiyan. Thank you to those in the comments who pointed it out! I double checked, and I also went and tested everyone else. Besides Jiyan, every other character ALL have Dodge Counter s. Maybe the dev's themselves forgot to add this in for Jiyan because they didn't think players would be dodging with him.
@ANoobInvoid
Күн бұрын
He automatically parries.
@kerontv6297
Күн бұрын
o7 our general
@zibqq2006
Күн бұрын
啊这不是吧
@NoGround94
Күн бұрын
@@ANoobInvoid If the move is able to be parried. If it isn't, there's nothing to parry and he gets wacked.
@ANoobInvoid
Күн бұрын
@@NoGround94 Yeah, he's best for bosses who has many parry windows and not with enemies that have combos that does not have any parry windows.
the goat showcasing goated mechanics gonna try this out
@hadi2592
2 күн бұрын
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@rexevan6714
2 күн бұрын
Fr fr
@k.j.7863
2 күн бұрын
Fr fr fr
@gnuhgnauqneyugn
2 күн бұрын
Fr fr fr fr
@seung_ism
2 күн бұрын
Fr fr fr fr fr
I swear this channel is so criminally underrated.. Literally game changing informations presented in a very organized manner, helped me a lot with my skill issue
@effishcent317
2 күн бұрын
Don't forget she underrated as well would probably clap crownless to tears.
@SKiPER210397
2 күн бұрын
True and real
@Nearo92
2 күн бұрын
Agree, she explains things very well with lots of examples, very helpful
@haunt7121
2 күн бұрын
I think it’s her voice saw some dude in comments complaining about it.
@tsukiri_masho
2 күн бұрын
Sweetily is also one of the first to discover the triple jump/ super jump (jump, plunge, grapp, echo combo) She deserves more :')
short people suffering swtSad
As the Holy Cornliness: Alice_Bites said in their Danjin i-frame Tech Guide "Now don't go spinning like a goofball every time you dodge you little cornflake. Make yourself look cooler by delaying the attack to time the parry." Cornflake out
@thisiswrathspeaking2057
2 күн бұрын
ah, a fellow corn enjoyer, greetings
@leech1806
Күн бұрын
I see the children of the corn have gathered.
@elfireii328
Күн бұрын
That dodgeless hologram clear using Danjins heavy attack i-frames were CRAZY.
JUSTICE FOR OUR SHORT KINGS AND QUEENS
Ngl i think you're probably the most knowledgeable wuwa player ever. The amount of testing for this discovery must be insane. Thanks for your hard work and this delayed counter will most definitely change everything
@SweetilyVT
2 күн бұрын
Not at all I just play a lot, testing and learning more about the dodges was fun
@kerontv6297
2 күн бұрын
@@SweetilyVT lol. As long as you're having fun. Thanks again for the tips ☺
@EncoreWorshiper
2 күн бұрын
honestly, good thing she left genshit/hoyoslops. Her potential was wasted on those trash
Thanks for this guide Sweetily! I often run out of stamina when fighting against Crownless VI with Rover and Sanhua 😅 I'll be sure to try out this delayed counter tech next.
@Synocra
2 күн бұрын
🎉 are we gonna get wuwa content from the keqing goat anytime soon? 😊
@TheLastAirbender3468
2 күн бұрын
you're playing wuwa too ? I though u don't cuz I haven't see you upload anything lol
'life is really though for the shot one" 😂😂 this delayed counter will be useful against crownless
thanks for the tips small adjustments to how we play can really make a difference, i need to stop button mashing
@andynow-uu1mr
Күн бұрын
😂😂 same
Try to perfect dodge Sweetily’s videos: Impossible
@phantr2530
2 күн бұрын
i took the hit in my brain 🧠
In my experience, Counter Attack invulnerability has about about 0.5 - 1 second invulnerability window which also varies per character i believe? so make sure to dodge right away when facing multiple hit attacks before the invulnerability window timer runs out. Great Video!
That is the reason WHY!! I have a short video when I did a perfect dodge with verina but died at Mephis. You can hear the perfect dodge trigger but its not enough time !!! Great video
@SweetilyVT
2 күн бұрын
Yeah it's unfortunate the different durations mean you will have to time your dodges differently on the shorter vs taller characters
So you're saying shorter characters has some disadvantages vs taller ones? Then you're even more impressive now that you manage to go solo Encore in the holograms fights and win. Nice lol.
@Carsu12
2 күн бұрын
You sounded a bit like Paimon on this one
@Azamu_
2 күн бұрын
@@Carsu12 I see… I guess that’s what 3 years of playing Genshin does to a person. I hope Abby in Wuwa won’t be the same. Aware.
@than7831
Күн бұрын
@@Carsu12I hate that I read your comment first so I read their comment in Paimon's voice
Wuwa literally dissing the small ones unintentionally 😂
woah thanks for the video and tips with the techs
Thank you again Sweetily for the video! I learnt a lot and always love how your explaination are systematic and easy to follow
Wakey wakey, new ily upload!
Wow this is really useful to know, thanks for taking ur time to make this informational video Sweetily
Thanks for sharing these useful mechanics with us, and also thanks for your hardwork Ariel !
Very informative video. Thank you for the hard work!
Really great advice and explanation, thanks!
Appreciate your hard work!
I love these videos, thanks Sweetily🥰
great video, insane find sweetily
Appears on my timeline and instantly hooked me. Subscribed!
Wow... this is actually a change to everything. Thanks for sharing! Can't wait to start practicing this.
Actual life changing advice for the harder fights in this game! Thanks again for this video! Will definitely be using this
clearly explained visually and logically. great job on the research and creation of this video! i'm excited to try this out.
Great information provided as always.
Thanks for this. You were also the one who introduced me to the triple jump trick which was very useful! Thank you!
Yooo! This is gold! Thank you for the information. The video is great!❤
Another great video. Informative, funny, and indepth. Thank you.
I always use the quick counter, and it's pretty helpful for damage output. This delayed counter tech is actually helpful for extra 1 second (ish) . Thank you so much for the information, now I'm ready to go beat this crownless
Sheesh. Thanks for this, Sweetily! You're the best!
This is epic. Good stuff Sweetily.
This is actually very informative, thank you !
The depth of this guide and examples of scenarios is what we need. 💯
Solid video as always!
After watching this video, I immediately went ahead and attempted Heron6 with your mech on the rapid beak attacks and it worked consistently and I finally cleared it! Thank youuu
Great video !! So helpful!!!
You are sooo underrated its crazy… keep it up and best of luck ❤
thankk youuu for all of your hard work and detailed information (down to the frame data..! with excellent diagrams..! ) super cool tech that I can't wait to use on some more holograms have definitely been having some questionable movements myself i keep getting hit this can definitelyyy help
No clickbait, useful information, well explained, great visuals. Thank you!
Lovely video, thanks!
This video helped me clear all the holograms 6, it's insane. Thank you Sweetily!
Thank you for the video it was really insightful
Thank you for sharing with us this cool tech.
Such goated tech info, thank you for sharing. This tech will be useful for years to come
i learned so much from this video i didnt know any of this stuff about dodging thank you so much.
Great video, this will help alot.
Thank you! this is very necessary information
The delayed counter mechanic was something i found quite helpful. Thank you for your hard work
The Crownless facepalm at the end. Diabolical 😂
I subscribed. You're one hell of a cc Sweetily this is amazing
Sweetily thankyou for this tech!! Best Encore main!
"Life is really tough for the short ones, why is this game so realistic?" 💀
Need more videos like this, the level of secret tips and information in wuwa is insane
This is actually really useful !
I was just struggling with crownless and then i saw this vid its really a lifesaver thank you
wow thanks sweetily
good info about this! definitely will do this on holograms. that solo encore run on dif 6 crownless. chef's kiss
This is basically making use of the entire dodge animation window instead of being quick to cut it short to follow up with a counter which also has its own . It’s not sweatiest option but the offers some safety and dps. I saw a video detailing the lasting the whole animation of dodge, but I didn’t think this would be useful in fast boss chain attacks in combination with counter . Thanks sweetily.
This is such quality information. This channel is underrated.
Wow thanks. Very useful knowledge
Thanks for the guide Sweetily! Tried it after stream and it's one of those things that 'click' when you're actually doing it. Nice cinematic Encore clear btw swtXD
Great content! Tyvm
subcribed, good stuffs keep it up
Hell yeah I knew I wasn't crazy. I've been fighting crownless with this trick ever since I realized that you're still invincible during dodge counter.
Thanks for the info!
swtGasp, learning more and more techs from streamer
great info. subbed
YOOOOOOOO THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!! I was fighting tempest Mephis before and was triggering the counter invincibility frames during its jump attack and was getting confused why I was not getting hit even though I didn't manage parry the boss. This answers my question. Thank you so much.
I am surprised, this is genuinely a useful tech snd is presented well I subbed and will support the channel, WuWa needs more creators like you
Great breakdown on on dodges and counters. Have been spamming those against hologram bosses since I had discovered those myself 😂
This, changes, EVERYTHING!
worked like a charm when i saw this on stream and tried it myself :3 thanks to you crownless was a breeze 💜
@SweetilyVT
2 күн бұрын
congrats on the clear!!
Learning more about the game from you than from the likes of rexlent keep up the good work, I involuntarly used the delayed counter sometimes with specific moves but never thought of it being an actual mechnic usable in more situations
holy crap !! this is crack !! might try it later when new hologram comes out 🤭
This... changes everythig, (Thanks for the tip, I've been struggling with jinshis huge ass animations so this may come in handy)
this video is made pretty good and easily understable
Amazing video
Finally, I can do Tempest Mephis without worrying about the clone. Thank you for the guide Sweetily!!!
This Channel Changed My Life Forever
another sweetily banger >:0
YESSSS!!!! FINALLY THANK YOU !
educational as always
THANK YOUUUU 🥹🥹
Thanks for this tech!!! I was able to survive and beat Crownless Hologram 6 with this technique
Thank you, i just beat crownless 4 because of this tips. I was stuck before
The sweetest and the sweatiest Wuwa CC
First, good vid. I discovered this a while back, and didn't think much of it, but I can see why it would not at all be obvious to a lot of players. Use your invuln moves people. Dodge, counter, ults, intro skills all have invuln. This is speculation/conjecture on my part. For the arrow rain you used in your invuln frame testing, the variance might be due to timing. I believe dodges are frame 1 invuln (meaning no start up frames that can be hit), and the arrow rain is likely not just a continuous hitbox, but rather a multi hit move with several consecutive hitboxes, each doing damage at set intervals. If its like other such moves in other games, then there are also likely small gaps between hits where one hit's box ends, then a gap of a few frames, then the next hit's box goes active. So depending on your initial dodge timing, invuln might be expiring during one of those gaps, leading to the appearance that there is variance in invuln frames on a given character's dodge. It's also unclear to me if the dodge slowdown affects projectile speeds, or just the enemy's actions, or if it's a global slowdown, so the slowdown could be playing a role in the variance you see in invuln frames, depending on what you are dodging. In other games, often when you dodge/parry/counter something, the properties of that mechanic are applied to the thing you using the mechanic against. Just some speculation from a fighting game player that wishes this game had a hitbox viewer with frame data info. I'm surprised there isn't a 3rd party tool out there to extract the frame data from the game files yet.
@SweetilyVT
Күн бұрын
I agree. I don't think actual dodge s should have variance, I gave an estimate for the frames because I also believed the arrow rain does not do "continuous dmg" in the sense that there should be a gap of a few frames, but it was what I thought came the closest. One interesting thing I did find from my testing was that dodges MIGHT not have frame 1 invuln - I have some captures where I can clearly see my character moving or starting to launch but I take an instance of dmg 3-4 frames in. It could just be a input variance though, since I'm not using a macro it's possible in those cases I pressed a direction key a few frames before I pressed dodge, so the directional movement made me take dmg.
@XxTexasTimxX
Күн бұрын
@@SweetilyVT If you have an input display program of some kind, you might run that while you record so you can see exactly what you input when stuff like that happens. I also have footage of some char ults starting up, and the char dying in the ult animation. Its unclear to me if it's a visual bug of getting ult animation, but the char already died (maybe ulting on the same frame as death), or if ults simply don't have frame 1 invuln.
This changes everything!
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
You are one of the most insane wuwa players, you can't stop discovering new techs and tricks and on top of that you are a Encore main 😊
To quote a very handsome fellow, "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING". Like fr I hate that dodge cooldown when I keep spamming it especially against Crownless etc. So I'm glad that you found out about is
great info
I KNEW THE SHORTIES RAN SLOWER, THANKS FOR CONFIRMING!
THIS is why i subbed
Thank you so much for the information, Sweetily. Look like I wouldn't need to just be spamming Shift anymore when fighting Crownless XD.