Why Feindsmith doesn’t lock you into fiends, especially since Yubel was released shortly beforehand, is beyond me

@f687sNFM

Ай бұрын

Cuz they want to sell it

@sheathvinz6451

Ай бұрын

tbh, i never like the "lock" thingy. but sadly sometimes it's necessary .

@mrharvy100

Ай бұрын

Locks are fine if the archetype itself is that strong in itself. When they drop strong archetypes with zero locks then it’s just shameless power creeping. They didn’t learn since Tear years ago because they care more about $$$ than a balanced game.

@r3zaful

Ай бұрын

@@mrharvy100 if they make it archetype lock people not going to play it including YOU, have we learn this already? ice barrier speaker is card that people wants in snake eyes but being archetypal locked people dont play it and of course YOU as well.

@Lorens4444

Ай бұрын

Are they that strong?

It's really the second Beatrice that gets ya

@Ulquiorra_Cifer

Ай бұрын

And the second sp too

@deadlineuniverse3189

Ай бұрын

People in the OCG had too much fun with transaction Lady turbo (and yes, you make 2 Beatrice in that instance if you can so Imperm doesnt break your neck)

@gosin90

Ай бұрын

talking fire 🗣️

@Raminator243

Ай бұрын

@@Ulquiorra_CiferThe S:P limit is a legitimate hit to uhhhhhhh *checks notes* …Rescue Ace. In a format dominated by Snake Eyes and Tenpai Dragon, Konami’s main concern is being able to link off into the second SP after playing around Imperm on your Turbulence. Thanks OCG

@zaleww5824

Ай бұрын

​@@Raminator243 lab hit they can't summon 4 labrynth archfirent to make 2 beatrice and use rest to make 3 sp lil night

Can't wait to play with 9 copies of maxx c in master duel in 2030

@skiffy8121

Ай бұрын

and 2 searchers

@moh.syafrianabie8899

Ай бұрын

pfft, in 2030 every new archetypical cards has maxx c-like handtrap effect on it

@danilolopez9203

Ай бұрын

If that happnes i'm going to quit that shitgy game

@Merilirem

Ай бұрын

I am from the future timeline where all Maxx c copies got banned before blue Maxx c made it to MD. Blue came in banned. It is a glorious time to be alive.

@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686

Ай бұрын

​@@Merilirem Tahts not the future, thats just your delusion! Wake up they just released the Handtrap that negates set on field effects, Snake-Eyes but Wind, Adamancipator is rogue with Block Dragon, Collosus is a main deck pankratops now and they just revealed that the new Dark Magician cards can hand loop you through 3 handtraps yet they are still unplayable since the grave is literally the hand now!

yeah anyone hoping for a maxx c ban was SMOKING that hopium

@colossaldonut5190

Ай бұрын

Smoking? More like snorting it. Even people that were high could not have thought it'd happen.

@DerMotze

Ай бұрын

to add to that, OCG players dont even want maxx c banned for the most majority. Its always fun to see tcg players hating on a list for a format that they dont even play in.

@JenovaGirzz

Ай бұрын

​@@DerMotzebut they do play master duel, ya know, the only best-of-one format. Of course OCG players don't want it banned. Who wouldn't like a card that either skips your opps turn or draws 20? It's not healthy for the game. Sure, it keeps combo decks in check, but stopping your opps turn is an auto-lose button for a lot of decks. Plus, It would be nice to have 6 main deck slots free'd from C and Ash.

@DerMotze

Ай бұрын

@@JenovaGirzz funny you mention master duel since that isnt the point here. We are talking about the normal game. Ive been around in japanese forums and they really dont see maxx c as a bad card as tcg players do.

@ReallyNotAbot101

Ай бұрын

​@@DerMotzetbf, it's mostly they haven't played without it. If you ask ocg players who also try tcg, the vast majority of those ppl think it should be banned.

Oh you thought that Maxx C replacement was for them? No no no that's *our* Maxx C

Fiendsmith consistency hits like their 1 of going to 1?

@JpegDog

Ай бұрын

Classic banlist move

@frankwest5388

Ай бұрын

Play the correct ratio!

@dhanyl2725

Ай бұрын

OCG shenanigans right there

@chaotixthefox

Ай бұрын

Some were actually playing two to resist Imperm.

@defectivesickle5643

Ай бұрын

@@chaotixthefox Sure ain't a consistency hit though

I think you got it all wrong. Mulch is not a Maxx C replacement, it's to "ease in" the tcg into the idea that Maxx C is getting unbanned here too :)

@Eyeshield11721

Ай бұрын

Kinda hope it happens just to see people’s reactions. Is it good for Maxx C to come back to the TCG? Absolutely not. Would it be funny? Absolutely yes lol.

@user-to9lk8ix6h

Ай бұрын

God I hope so.

@mattevans1643

Ай бұрын

It would be pretty cool to see a duel go more than 1 turn.

@BigLadle99

Ай бұрын

​@@mattevans1643 yeah where half of those turns are passing so you don't let your opponent draw their entire deck, so much better

@dcscorch969

Ай бұрын

@@mattevans1643 yep it really sucks when someone activates maxx c and the game is practically over!

Cant wait to draw 2 cards each time my opponent special summon from hand in master duel/OCG

@drakematsy7412

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't recommend.. Multchummy has a draw back at the end of the turn.

@devtehdrhax866

Ай бұрын

Kinda funny to think that Mayakashi can potentially dry out your deck 2x faster or even that one trickstar guaranteeing large amount of burn for every 2 cards drawn

@tcoren1

Ай бұрын

You do not play purulia in any format where maxx C is legal, even in the side (which doesn't exist in MD). It just has too much anti synergy with maxx C

@drakematsy7412

Ай бұрын

@@tcoren1 you side it against flowandereze

@My1xT

Ай бұрын

That could make the maxx c challenge too easy tho

I don't think Maxx C will ever get banned in the OCG, I think mult is more for TCG and worlds where they do their combination of banlists

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT YOU ARE TELLING ME GIMMICK PUPPET IS A REAL DECK IN THE OCG RIGHT NOW

@ErroneousNickname

Ай бұрын

It was an FTK deck, now that strings is at 1 the FTK is less likely

@GG_Nowa

Ай бұрын

real ftk deck

@questrequested9171

Ай бұрын

i knowww i love this 😭

@arkanamaster4961

Ай бұрын

Ftk from new support in infinite forbidden

@Alm550

Ай бұрын

Not really

I'd rather play with maxx c than have to deal with tcg card prices.

imo multichummy was never going to be the maxx c replacement because it only works with monsters summoned from the hand and nowhere else if it didn’t have that one sentence it would have absolutely replaced maxx c

man, if only we had a low risk platform to make instant changes to the banlist and see if it sticks, i'd call it: Master Duel

@mattevans1643

Ай бұрын

I mean the physical card game is pretty low risk.

I mean, seeing Catapult Turtle being banned in 2024, *is fucking hilarious*

@sovietmudkip1

Ай бұрын

Yea I don't think they foresaw how easy it would eventually be to summon both catapult turtle and a monster with at least 16,000 attack in your first turn when they errata'ed it.

@zdelrod829

Ай бұрын

@@sovietmudkip1 Have you ever heard of Limiter Removal + Power Bond on a Cyber End Dragon?

@amw6438

Ай бұрын

​@@sovietmudkip1galaxy taychon deck did it & quite easy to do it

@ZephyCluster

9 күн бұрын

​@@zdelrod829 fair. Now do it every opening hand then we talk.

no one is using multchummy, unless floo makes another wave

@DrAiPatch

Ай бұрын

Because they are using Maxx C

@GG_Nowa

Ай бұрын

because maxx c exists for them. in the tcg it's 100% the new maxx c for the side board

@jamesshadeslayer3395

Ай бұрын

actually ik a guy on duelingnexus who uses it

@saskara6641

Ай бұрын

Well there is ppl who use it for thier side deck

@dcscorch969

Ай бұрын

its good in the side

Maxx C isn’t going anywhere because of the way the games are being played today

Maxx C is a necessary evil against combo decks

"people don't play multchummy". Yeah why would you play nerfed Maxx C when Maxx C is still in the game, it'll even make you shuffle a lot of your draws at end phase. Such a dumb argument.

@Keizrel

Ай бұрын

That’s why always said ban C is copium cuz it’s the card of the format, it will never get banned, TCG banned it. So what is your problem with a card you don’t play against exactly?

@Liliana_the_ghost_cat

Ай бұрын

​@@Keizrel because Maxx "C" is also legal in Master Duel, which is played everywhere so... yes it does actually affect us. Keep in mind that the Master Duel banlist and the OCG banlist are made by the same team too so analysing the OCG banlist will give us insight on the Master Duel banlist.

@jacobgodfrey1694

Ай бұрын

Which means ppl coping for maxx c ban are delusional? Yeah fair play

@Unknownz000

Ай бұрын

​@Keizrel I play against it every fkn day on master duel..... and it isn't very enjoyable.

@rocapbg9518

Ай бұрын

@@Keizrel I don't play against? Most YuGiOh players play Masterduel, wtf is this point? Braindamage is spreading like crazy in the yugioh community i swear.

Why are tcg players crying about what cards are played in the ocg 😂

@dominictan9696

Ай бұрын

Because they just follow us big boys OCG player while they are there to just eat our left overs

@thecomradewarda

Ай бұрын

@@dominictan9696no because then it won’t get banned on master duel because y’all well cry about how a toxic card should get banned .

@dominictan9696

Ай бұрын

@@thecomradewarda why will I cry and call it toxic? I'm an OCG player.

@thecomradewarda

Ай бұрын

@@dominictan9696 because if or when you guys well cry cry about how they banned maxx c.

@dominictan9696

Ай бұрын

@@thecomradewarda well good thing they will never ban it and you tcg plebs will just keep crying about. And my pont still stand. Most of the TCG meta builds is just a copy and past from the OCG and you guys just modify it for you ban list.

LONG LIVE THE BUG!

Maxx C isnt difficult to deal with. Everyone plays counters to it. Everyone is just upset they cant make a one sided omnigate board unopposed.

That World Championship logo made me hyped for a moment, ngl... brought me back to Over the Nexus

@esoteric7990

Ай бұрын

Currently a Tryout Duel event for that format in Master Duel

@AnonEcho98

Ай бұрын

@@esoteric7990 Neat. But yeah, just... real sad that the WC series of games got canned. I liked being able to make a lil' avatar to run around the story world with.

@esoteric7990

Ай бұрын

@@AnonEcho98 Wish people made WCS 2011 Over the Nexus Turbo Duels a retro format to play. Literally "If yugioh had mana"

Wait, so people expected a Maxx C ban? I thought that the complaints were because everyone expected every Snake Eyes thing to be limited to 1 or banned altogether.

Max c and ash blossom need to be limited to 1 per deck or banned. Any card that everyone is basically required to use to be competitive should be banned

@worstrxplayer51

13 күн бұрын

Ash is not required competitively, at least not in the TCG

@meyanlewis9166

12 күн бұрын

@@worstrxplayer51 I play master duel and everyone plays the same card. Maxx c, ash blossom, called by and cross out, Imperial. And snake eyes. It’s pretty lame no variety at all. I refuse to use the same cards. I still get wins cause I’m old school and can put together a deck but I see how the game has changed due to these cards. When links hit the game that made all of these cards over powered and required. It can can’t be fixed but they try to control it through banning and limiting. I think Konami made too Many cards with out proper consideration. MAt this point they just need to let it be a free for all with every card playable cause the game is ruined. If all cards are released from restrictions then game won’t change, 2-4 turn games will still be all there is. Konami needs to say fk it. Make your best deck and let’s see what’s up. Basically the real game will be just like the anime 😂 the only way to make this game viable

I find it funny that the TCG players expect OCG to ban Maxx C. I thought we all already knew that OCG has an entire different mentality about Maxx C. And how they usually have a more "control oriented" mentality. Remember, they actually tried to play Runick cards as it was intended first, when most people of the TCG used them more for combos the moment they got their hands o them

@sirgarde2293

Ай бұрын

Maxx C isn't a control card, it's just the outright undebatable best card in the game in every deck type. You end on a full combo board and hold maxx c in hand to draw into additional disruption and turn 3 followup.

@tiredguy2753

29 күн бұрын

That is what I am curious about as well. With how long max c has been legal in the ocg where is this expectation that maxx c wil get banned in the ocg “soon”?

How did anyone actually think Maxx "C" was getting banned lmao

Honestly i hope it never gets banned as long as people take 20 minutes special summoning. If my bug stops you from summoning all your monsters, that can prevent me from playing, then good because i want yo play too.

Little did he know: chummi's ACTUAL purpose is to make the TCG more comfortable with having a Maxx C like card in the TCG so that it'll be unbanned 😈

I found the hard way mulchummy only lets you draw when the special or normal summon from the hand not deck gy or extra deck but it's still way better than maxx c

@danielsmith5032

Ай бұрын

Gosh I didn’t see that at all. Well that’s not going to work everything is special summoned from the deck and graveyard!

Yugitubers really pilled the entire community on this one. A couple videos and people just ran with it. Next time, temper your expectations.

My money's on them adding a few multchummy cards before they finally kill the roach.

@baxterbruce9827

Ай бұрын

Honestly, it seems really weird no one is talking about how there WILL be more, it MENTIONS other Multchummy cards already, there's gotta be at least one other one in the works, and people would rather have what looks like an archetype of handtraps instead of one roach

@TwistedBOLT

Ай бұрын

@@baxterbruce9827 Aye. This one's for the hand. Others will probably be draws for summons from the deck/extra deck/grave and you'll just run the ones that make the most sense for the current matchup.

@baxterbruce9827

Ай бұрын

@@TwistedBOLT Not to mention, they might be overhauling generic handtraps in general, imagine losing Ash Blossom to a weaker Multchummy

@johnnycapote9817

Ай бұрын

Won't happen,the only ppl complaining about Maxx c are tcg cry babies. You don't play ocg so stop complaining. Don't like MD then play dueling book bozo

@Ramsey276one

2 күн бұрын

Second one is a bird

I don’t really get the negative of Maxx c. It’s at least something when the opponent is summoning half the deck in a single turn

We've definitely been waiting. And we will continue waiting, it seems like.

Nute Gunray, "This is getting out of hand....now there are two of them!"

I hope i am wrong, but i have a sneaking suspicion that the purpose of chummy wasnt to replace maxx c in the ocg but instead to eventually make the tcg resemble the ocg more once they release chummy into the tcg, that said im not 100% convinced of this but honestly I wouldnt be surprised if that turned out to be what actually happens/was intended.

U would have been right if they didn’t just reprint MaxxC in Tactical Trial…

@ZeIfore

Ай бұрын

They also reprinted Baronne right before banning it, so that's not exactly a great factor

@ahmes004

Ай бұрын

@@ZeIfore OCG or TCG?

@brodyshawn1519

Ай бұрын

@@ahmes004tcg

@GG_Nowa

Ай бұрын

​@@ahmes004tcg

@r3zaful

Ай бұрын

@@ZeIfore spoken like a true tcg players who knows dogshit about ocg

TCG players when they can’t turbo their entire deck on Turn 1: this card is unfair!

Oh no I can't do a 20 minute combo with no penalty what em I gonna do

So am I the only one who thinks that Ophrys Socrpio summon Darling Cobra search Brilliant Fusion then link off Ophrys Scorpio and Darling Cobra into Baby Underworld Goddess into full Fiendsmith combo is going to be a problem in the ocg, or am I just panicking really hard for nothing?

@AlphaSquadZero

Ай бұрын

Yes, that is only LVK material.

@tcoren1

Ай бұрын

There is this little card called lonefire blossom, consistency was never the issue with scorpio plays

It is wild to me that in 2024 people are still upset about maxx c, in a universe where cards like bow of the goddess exist

Here’s a fun idea to the roach, Tone down the special summoning or do it and give your opponent a bunch free cards

If OCG banlist the worst what bout TCG... abysmal??? Maybe their next banlist is forbid Apollo or another ED "snake eyes" not the actual problematic cards in the main deck and then next YCS still another snake eyes against other snake eyes in the grand final

Maxx c won’t be banned because they won’t stop printing archetypes with 0 downsides or locks. New cards make you wonder what past archetypes would look like without their restrictions.

How did anyone think a card that only lets you draw if your opponent normal or special summon from the HAND! Only was gonna replace Maxx "C". Unless you shotguned it at the start of the turn the opponent would normal and you miss 1 draw they may do one hand special summon. Then proceed to special summon 6 times from the extra deck, 8 times from the main deck, 9 times from the gy. And then you would be sitting there with your nice +0

well, I guess the mult is the maxx c for the tcg rather than the killer for max c

Konami really does wonders when it's about their true game

"After that-" video ends. I was super confused as to why it ended there, but then I realized I was watching it on my TV so shorts don't do that gimmick replay.

OCG and a proper banlist? God forbid...

@chevoyingram9589

Ай бұрын

Compare the ocg format compared to the tcg format. Then talk. Christ tcg players might Aswell be only American due to how ignorant you are

@u.a.perfectace7786

Ай бұрын

Better than shit that passes for list in the TCG 😆 Well, except this one.

@dominictan9696

Ай бұрын

​@@u.a.perfectace7786 nah its pretty good list all in all. Just like he said it more for the big tournaments comming and aftdr thet we will most likely get a mor impactfull ban list

Why people still crying about max c? Play your pathetic TCG and leave OCG alone.

"Maxx C copies 4-6" bro ain't nobody playing purulia while maxx C is legal lol

I can see why having three copies of it would get annoying but I wasn't playing the game when maxxx C was legal. I don't like the idea of them being able to draw into handtraps but honestly as far as hand traps go I kind of don't mind one that would help your opponents just have more resources to play with versus screwing your play. Then again what do I know. I would be open to maybe limiting it to one copy just because repetition of that effect would get old and in the modern game state it objectively applies as a pot of greed only your opponents can just skip their turn and annoyance if they don't want to feed you

They should nerf special summoning and bluff normal summon

what do you mean "WE" your a TCG player focus on ur own banlist.

@dominictan9696

Ай бұрын

Preach it!

Maxx C checks so much in the OCG to the point that it's keeping it at a somewhat decent pace. The OCG has so many different cards that are legal over there that were insane and broken in the TCG due to Maxx C being banned. We need Maxx C back in the TCG badly

God, Konami just doesn't want to even try and do anything

It's like they know we hate MaxxC and just keep adding more of it into the game out of spite from WW2

@omegaeraser

Ай бұрын

You hate maxx c. Players in ocg do not.

@chevoyingram9589

Ай бұрын

You likely don't play the ocg format, it's is not in the format you play unless you play master duel. Which in it self it's own format . Why the fuck would the opinions of tcg player matter for the ocg

@thecomradewarda

Ай бұрын

@@chevoyingram9589because if the ocg bans it means that in madterduel it well also ban it because the ocg basically is the target audience.

Why does nobody read the Card? It is actually crap. Most Special Summons com from the Deck Graveyard or Extradeck. And you can basically only use it if you go second. Nobody wants to go second.

I still dont understand why konami even bother to have a ban list at all everything just gets overpowered by the next set anyway so why bother?

Konami is based. After years of people complaining about maxx c, they think that another one should be added to the game. I'm waiting for the third maxx c that for every 30 seconds of your opponent playing their turn you draw 1 card

They need more of those monsters for ssing from other locations before they'd even consider removing Maxx C. Most people have agreed on that since day 1, so not sure why people are acting surprised Maxx C wasn't touched.

Is burn FTK really that prevalent in the ocg cause what is happening over there they had to ban catapult turtle?!😭

@r3zaful

Ай бұрын

it search transmigration before proceed the ftk nullifying every single counterplay, unlike the lightsworn ftk.

@GG_Nowa

Ай бұрын

new tachyon stuff enabled it because they could search it. it reads like a jank combo but it works so consistently

@Onibushou

Ай бұрын

Josh Schnidt got with a Catapult Turtle FTK in the Duelist Cup, so it must be somewhat viable.

@AlphaSquadZero

Ай бұрын

@@Onibushou That was a 3 card combo when the 1 card SHS FTK is still viable

What I heard is that in ocg land is more of a casual enviroment and is not attached with one card game, konami is in constant fear to lose playerbase because of other tcg. So they hit the consistency in their decks and let them run maxx c. Also, I think they wont ban it anytime soon because they still need to check a lot of problematic cards that go alongside maxx c like block dragon and that might cause people dropping the game because they only play a specific deck. For me all of it is a stupid reason but I could seen a scenario that they dont wanna risk it.

Mutlchummy is not a Maxx C replacement. Unless they print out a version of Multchummy that does the same thing that it does except it responds to special summons from deck or extra deck (yes if you can read, Multchummy only responds to summons from hand), I don't think Maxx C can be replaced there.

As an ocg player maxx c is balance

correct ratio hit on Beatrice

Well good thing is OCG doesn't really affect me. I only ever go to locals

Multchumy is actually not THAT useful, considering it makes you shuffle back your hand until your hand is equal to the number of cards your opponent controls after SUBTRACTING SIX CARDS.

Hasn't Konami already came out on X/Twitter, and they said plan to NEVER ban Maxx "C" because it allows deck variety?

I don't see maxx c as a problem

Catapult Turtle is still the most amazing part of this list

Maxx C is just OCG philosophy. They would never wven consider banning it

OCG will never ban Maxx C. Way too many pet deckers that dont want their enablers banned(Block Dragon for Adamancipators for example) and too many card game competitors to risk a Maxx C ban.

Maxx c is legal in ocg as its used as a crutch against super spam decks, and is taken into consideration when ocg designs new cards. Squid is gsrbage compared to maxx

While it sucks, yeah it doesn't make sense to ban a format defining right before the big regionals. Hopefully after.

I remember one time that I made a Floo player lose by timeout because they were taking so long trying to play with 30 in hand.

Would be hilarious if it stays this way indefinitely, and Multichummy end up being banned in the TCG too.

Imagine thinking they would ban Maxx C

This would've been the best banlist if maxx C and beatrice got banned

Its almost as if having maxx c to 3 doesnt break the game.

It’s so weird coming back to yugioh and there still being and OCG/TCG split. No wonder the tcg formats suck they’re missing whole blocks of cards and exclusives that fix things

Nah see they need to bring the bug back in the tcg, it'll encourage ppl to slow the frick down to not let their opponent draw 20 cards

how is it that with an errata BOTH Imperial Order AND Catapult Turtle, CATAPULT TURTLE!!!! are banned cards

BUCC-EE'S SHIRT SPOTTED YEEHAW

Now I can activate two Maxx "C" per turn

Maxx C the most controversial card in the entire game.

Banlist is not bad at all and far better than the last TCG one

Good, Maxx c is a good card, and should be legal in every format

Still waiting for the tcg name of fiendsmith

So this is why kaiser and turtle were hit in master duel. They refuse to do anything about unfun ftk's, and bots other than turtle. Kaiser should be banned anyways. The MD team really needs to sit down and crusify all the ftk, and hand loop shit in best of 1's.

I've played Masterduel only. So don't bite my head off if I'm missing something. But I feel like cards such as Maxx C are necessary in such a high power format. Maxx C punishes greedy decks, which is a good thing in a high power format. Speaking as a MTG player, it would be like banning Force of Will from Legacy. That being said, it should be restricted.

TCG will be MULTchummy?? We got a jellyfish and a bird... Will the third be a Beast or Reptile?

The problem with max c is, the opponent can have too much hand trap

Wait... People actually think that Purulia is a Maxx C replacement? It's not even that good and if used with Maxx C it just leads to awkward situations where you're just better off with the Bug alone. TCG Copimum at it's best.

Multchummy is not that good. it's easy to play around it if your deck is based on special summoning from the deck a lot. Plus, you gotta control no cards to use it

"we've been rewarded", said the NA player.

Maxx c is actually essential I'm surprised it's banned in tcg

BUC-EE'S SPOTTED

Maxx C will never get banned in the OCG because they have access to everything that'll make Maxx C anything but broken. Show of hands class. How many of you tried to win with maxx C only to lose the very next turn? Bonus points if it was because the opponent did nothing, passed his turn and still won.

Lowkey the limit to gimmickpuppet of strings wasn’t a consistency hit it really hurts the ftk

Maxx c is not broken nor has it ever been broken but it sure the hell has been annoying. Special summoning is a choice or you could just run one of the drain cards that stops cards from being activated in the hand.