This CRAZY STAT should calm Minnesota Timberwolves fans after game 1 loss to Dallas Mavericks!
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Phil Mackey and Kyle Theige are back for another NBA playoffs edition of Flagrant Howls! This time after the Minnesota Timberwolves fell to the Dallas Mavericks in game 1 of the Western Conference Finals. What changes need to be made to send the series back to Dallas tied at 1? As Phil states, we break out the statistics to feel better about a game 1 loss and look back at NBA playoffs past for a historical perspective. Bottom-line, at this point, there’s no need to panic. PLUS, a Random Wolf of the Week.
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Note from Finch to players "Bring Ya Ass" to game 2
This podcast is subtle but effective
Need? I agree there's no NEED to panic. Will? Oh we WILL panic. Naz Reid.
@twinzl
26 күн бұрын
😄
I'm glad coach finch is calling their asses out.
Wolves in 5 was a CRAZY prediction. The lack of respect for Dallas feeds our soul
@chadlicang8100
Ай бұрын
3-0 time to panic
For real, no need to panic. Legit lost by 3 playing sloppy? Not that bad, shyt didn’t hit the ceiling.
@jmf9888
Ай бұрын
True that. Only worry for me is how poorly Dallas shot the 3. They won’t shoot that bad for the rest of the series so I’m hoping we make the necessary adjustments tomorrow.
@RabbitOnKrack
Ай бұрын
@@jmf9888thats true but we stopped them from taking 3's cuz they were getting alot from the paint. More 3's taken means more missed shots and ultimately that means more rebounds for MN. Easy for Dallas to rebound if their shooting it 2 feet from the net.
@jz1075
Ай бұрын
The Celtics won their close game. The Mavs had a bad game the Wolves basically gave a free win away
@Thomasfrommygirl
Ай бұрын
Yeah. That should’ve been a blowout for Minnesota
@Thelostandprofoundpodcast
Ай бұрын
It’s a sweep 🧹
As a Minnesota fan I think we’re gonna lose this series in 5 especially if Anthony and KaT keeps missing open layups and scoring under 20 pts it’s not looking good
They didn't take the mavs seriously. Didnt play with desperation
Kyrie was playing like that one dude at the park that is trying 300% harder than everyone there, sprinting downhill at breakneck speeds getting past our defenders with the softest layups off the glass every time. Criminally underrated player and I'm worried about him continuing to have his way this series
@Young_Star
Ай бұрын
I do question how much he can maintain that pace. they were able to sit him for significant breaks though and didn't lose any pace scoring. I am hoping he shot his wad pushing the pace so much in the first game.
@Lena-ks5ni
Ай бұрын
I'm happy you didn't notice one big guy called Luka....hahahahahahah
@oldenoughtowatchify
Ай бұрын
@@Lena-ks5ni I'm not worried about Luka he's going to do his thing no matter who's defending him but we can't let Kyrie get downhill for easy scores. Defense is where we win this game and we actually have to play it
Crazy how everyone plays sloppy against Dallas
@hardywoodaway9912
Ай бұрын
it’s a comfortable way to look at it…
@joshrandor4371
Ай бұрын
Dallas gets so lucky with that. Every team that loses to them plays sloppy and unfocused. Lol.
@Thomasfrommygirl
Ай бұрын
@@joshrandor4371 dude. It’s so lucky. For some reason teams have to change their defensive schemes against Dallas and can’t score as many points. Pure luck
@stephensarmento3529
Ай бұрын
@joshrandor4371 right, its almost like the great dallas defense has nothing to do with it.....
@unbiascowboy1537
23 күн бұрын
Maybe The Dallas defense that was the best defense in league after the trade has something to do with it.
I love how Finchy coaches and manages the egos on this team. He is so good when he needs to be direct with the boys. I really think he should've been coach of the year. Finch really knows the pulse of this team.
We can’t use ANT on Kyrie we gotta change that matchup we needs ANT to be fresh so he can attack the basket
Just give dallas credit Im tired of yall making excuses mavs played bad too
The Timberwolves played real bad defense. They better get their shit together. Maybe bad coaching
@aceloco817
Ай бұрын
Mavs pretty much got anything they wanted offensively. Missed a bunch of open shots too. If Minnesota hit more ft's maybe the outcome woulda been different.
Chuck didn't tell Ant to bring ya ass.
I'm not worried. I'm disappointed that they didn't come away with the W in Game 1. They ended the second quarter poorly and had a bad stretch in the fourth quarter when they got outscored 11-0. I'm confident the Wolves take care of business in Game 2.
@chriselrod-dl1wx
22 күн бұрын
Confident you say
I didn’t see anything from the Mavs that scares me. Wolves played as bad as they could and lost by 3. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if we win the next 4 games.
@samexoldx
Ай бұрын
Denver is a scarier team than Dallas in my opinion
@Thomasfrommygirl
Ай бұрын
This has so much potential to age very very poorly. Kyrie had a good game, but one thing that should alarm the Wolves is they have zero players that can slow down Luka. They’re going to have to completely abandon the defensive scheme that’s got them this far to do so.
@fishsticks7257
Ай бұрын
@@Thomasfrommygirlno one slows down Luka. Same as no one slows down Jokic. They're both getting 30 no matter what.
@Thomasfrommygirl
Ай бұрын
@@fishsticks7257 honestly, the Thunder kinda slowed down Luka. The thing is…. Slowed down Luka is still better than 99% of the NBA 😂
@drewengel7073
Ай бұрын
@@Thomasfrommygirl One thing I will say that Mavs fans are correct on, is that Lu Dort was being extremely physical with Luka, to the point of him playing like he was in the 90s. The Wolves may play physical defense but they don't try to actively injure the opposing team.
Bad defense. Very fundamentally flawed defense
A crazier stat is the Wolves losing to a team who hasn’t won a game 1 in 13 years
How about after blowing game 2 like a bunch of bumbling losers?
That's the spirit, guys. Mavs didn't destroy Gobert and Conley 2 years ago, your wings are used to big bodies like Luka and Ant sure looked like hes been here before. Mavs in 5
@deanpeanuts5112
24 күн бұрын
On the money
There is selection bias in these stats. You have to account for the fact that on average a team that wins a series in
NBA officiating is in need of a huge revamp
The Wolves top 2 scorers all season are ANT and KAT. They combined for 12 of 36 shots and 21 were 3pt of which they hit 7. The game ended them losing by 3. In other words they win if they hit 1 of their 14 combined missed 3 point shots or 2 of their combined 10 other shots. Luka and Kyrie needed to do all that just to win by 3. The first game should be more concerning for Mavs since they now need to dominate on offense and pray MN top 2 are no shows for 3 of the 6 remaining games.
@karlak0930
Ай бұрын
The Mavs also shoot 40% from 3 vs OKC. They shot 24% last night while Wolves made a lot of 3s. Mavs won't shoot that low again from 3, they bring it on Game 2.
@arpz1129
Ай бұрын
This is a dumb argument that a lot of people use. In a vacuum you can say that if they make just 2 more shots they win, but you are ignoring that if Dallas makes 4 more 3s and go 10 of 25 instead of 6 of 25, Dallas wins by 15. Dallas wasn't even close to playing their best game either on game 1.
Mavs will shoot better from three but I’m confident the wolves won’t lose the paint battle by 25+ points
What if you wake up Saturday and we are down 0-2? You panicking then? I am for sure
I personally didn’t think we’d beat the suns or nuggets when those series started. I believed we’d win this one which tells me they won’t win 🙃
Finch better be sending replays of Luka's pushoffs to the league. Can't be letting that go then calling it on Conley
@Thomasfrommygirl
Ай бұрын
I’ll call and raise you a Rudy shove in the back
@good2go619
Ай бұрын
They never call that. And it's still not as bad as Kat moving sideways on a drive to shoulder PJ Washington in the chest.
Kyle is one of the most amazing podcast cohosts. Could listen in all day
If they lose Game 2, then it may be panic time.
I'm pissed, I wanted vent line! Not sure if the team noticed that this is the conference effing finals! That defensive effort was pathetic! You let lively take in the rebounds on the offensive end. Kyrie and Luka did whatever they wanted against us. Interior defense was worst it's been all year
You are literally playing a NEXT GEN version of LeBron's 2016 Cavaliers.
Goaltending isn’t subtle. It’s either above or not. Period. Your verbal gymnastics won’t change the truth. Btw KAT was looking and watching right after doing it because he knew…
why does Kyrie and Luka BOTH have the All-Seeing Eye tattoo? Are they part of the club?
@Lyrunfromda214
Ай бұрын
Why you paying attention to other men tattoos ?
Jayden played kyrie to close and got burned. Better to make him shoot and play a half a step back. They should've made that adjustment in the first quarter, that is concerning that they were too dumb to adjust to an obvious mistake
Kidd got that game 1 thing from LeBron James, who uses it to get the other team to show its hand for the split in game 2, and control of the series. Example: If I'm Dallas, I'm thinking Minnesota used game 1 to get Dallas to show its hand. Their coach knows his team would be feeling itself(and distracted) at home, is more dangerous on the road.
Those freaking out, must be new Wolves fans.
with how i know we can play and win on the road, im not concerned with losing by 3. even with a great jaden game gone to waste. If we lose game 2, then i am concerned. Our defense was making so many mistakes to which i think we can fix with focus. i expect mavs to shoot better from the 3. its should still be close we will see.
Simply put, its not over until its over
Frankly, I'm PANICKING. I knew Luka and Kyrie would be a problem.
@BJ37
Ай бұрын
Meh, they weren't really a problem. Was more of an us problem.
@williamroper5422
Ай бұрын
@@BJ37Don't OD on the copium pal.
@sumwhatsolo3691
Ай бұрын
I loss that the refs effing blew, one day less rest after playing at altitude against a very tough team. Wolves are pissed now. 2-2 after 4
@RabbitOnKrack
Ай бұрын
Dude the Wolves top 2 scorers all season are ANT and KAT. They combined for 12 of 36 shots and 21 were 3pt of which they hit 7. The game ended them losing by 3. In other words they win if they hit 1 of their 14 combined missed 3 point shots or 2 of their combined 10 other shots. Luka and Kyrie needed to do all that just to win by 3.
@quietlike
Ай бұрын
You don’t think mavs d had anything to do with Kat and ants shooting? Can Jayden make that many threes on the regular? Will the mavs only make 6? Luka and kyrie made the best defense look horrible. There should be concern, but we’ll see the adjustments.
Played bad defense but got huge 3pt shots to keep up the pace to stay in it. They really need to stop settling for 3s though. I think Dallas was daring them to come into the paint and were willing to let them fire from the perimeter. That is what I think screwed them when it got late and they missed shots when they really needed it. They barely tried to put any pressure into the paint. There is no excuse for being worn out after 2 days off. I am wondering if they are either over-training in the extra days off or something that is messing up their conditioning. They seem to never have energy after a 2 day break.
I think Wolves may be in trouble. I don’t see 4th quarter belonging to Wolves, particularly last 4 minutes- they need a marginal lead going down the stretch, not a seesaw battle. Closing belongs to Dallas.
I'm not worried tbh. We were beating them most of the game. They just needed to close it out, but they came 4 pts short.
Finch is bringing it out of them and that’s what we needed
Does anyone think to shove in JMac for a few mintures to guard Kyrie, or too small? Having Ant and NAW guarding but there might be some lineups where it might not work... or could Morris find a few mintues to chase him? The offense could benefit with JMac... I know it's the playoffs but it really sucks when you have this possible firecracker waiting to get the offense back going. Subtle but effective... that was a BS mosquito bite call.
@danielsharp3683
Ай бұрын
Finch is very conservative when he gives playing time and that's one of his faults ...he just doesn't do it very much even though we have guys that can help
I think what’s hard for me is that we can’t expect a game like that from Jaden again. A lot of Dallas players under performed. It feels like one we should have won and just could get it done. The level of energy each player plays with is kinda hard to criticize. It’s hard to tell what is because they are tired and what is because of matchups. It’s hard to say what needs to be improved if nothing is terrible and nothing is great. It feels like all we can ask the timberwolves to do is play harder. Which is kind of like saying I will get better by just getting better… Not the best plan if a plan at all… the most reasonable thing to me is that finch and Edward’s need to work to get Edward’s more points. Dude can only be an on court coach for so long. We need more than his defense and leadership.
Ky is 0-14 too
They were all shooting threes much quicker than normal, which I think signals tiredness.
Mavs fan here. Luka struggles more with weight and strength as opposed to length. Felt like McDaniels couldn’t force Luka off his spots in game 1.
Timberwolves farted themselves worse than Dan orlovsky on pat McAfee show
Wonder if Naz and Kyle can be our best Luka defenders outside of Jaden..
Normal Illinois is kind of a twin city to Bloomington Illinois, in the central part of the state. It is a real city, though not sure how normal it is, since I've never been there
Timberwolves are in a trickbag of sorts. Their strenght of wing defenders is still there, however Kyrie and Luka will beat whoever is in front of them. Luka is too strong for any of the timberwolves defenders, and Kyrie is too skilled. Everyone was complaining of Minnesota's drop coverage, thats how their defense is bulit. Honestly, if they switch it up both Kyrie and Luka will get to the rim. On Kyrie is basketball IQ is up there, in the last series Murray when he would get by his defender(when he could) his dumbass would drive into the wolves strength of the back line. Kyrie has an array of mid level scoring moves to go to, and is smart enought to use it. KAt needs to be in the post to take advantage of the obvious mismatch, but I'm not sure if he's about that life. Minnesota definately can win this series but if they goin with preconceived notions on what they will do, Mavs will beat them.
@Thomasfrommygirl
Ай бұрын
Agreed. Minnesota is going to have to prove that they can make adjustments on both sides of the ball to get past this series.
@albertgalvareynoso4135
Ай бұрын
See you on game 2. Lets see if you can say the same.
I’m down in Normal IL, This blew my mind hearing that- boring ass area but lots of good restaurants
Finch vs Kidd? Who you take and why?
They looked gassed... the Mavs having that 1 less extra game benefited them. Only Naz, Slomo, and Jaden were the only ones that seemed energetic (Naz was all over the court, I'm surprised they didn't play him more in the 4th). It's strange to see Ant look that tired in the 4th. Not surprised Finchy would be a bit upset; we all know the team is far better than last night. Only losing by a few points with lack of energy is a good sign. Gotta recoop and get a game 2 win. The blitzing of Luka seemed like an effective strategy only in short spurts.Just like Jokic, can't let Luka get to his spots. Kyrie on the other hand really can't be stopped, can expect to make any circus shot at any place in the 1/2 court.
@WheresWaldo05
Ай бұрын
Wolves played 11 games going into this game. Mavs played 12. You know how to count right?!?
Wolves in 6 ! Stay calm. Ride it out.
It's not even a problem 😮 wolves 4-2 period
Mackey where did you get that hat! I need one
Draymond Green has been saying this is a Kyle Anderson kind of series Ant is the man but he put a little too much dip on his chip calling out kyrie, going from chasing Murray around to kyrie is a lot & that boy kyrie is different he was out there hooping during Ramadan with no food & water
If the games continue to be reffed this way then the wolves are fucked. ANT gets all this hype as a superstar and possible face of the league but can hardly get a whistle when he drives. These other guys go in and lean into the defender while throwing up garbage and get a whistle everytime.
@good2go619
Ай бұрын
Ant hardly drove. The Mavs lived in the paint the whole game.
@joshrandor4371
Ай бұрын
ANT shit 4 2 point shots. How many fouls should he have gotten?
@rosssivertson6339
Ай бұрын
Watching him it's clear that it's gotten into his head. He doesn't think he'll get a whistle if he drives so he's settling for jumpers or passing it off.
Wolves in 7
I’m concerned we’ve hit an Ant funk as well if you look at the past 2 games:
Subtle but effective… SHIT REFS
doesn't matter what the statistics say, will the wolves meet the challenge going forward or not.
Ultimate Homers LOL. The offensive goaltending is as clear as a blue sky but you say you saw otherwise. And you compare a tangible/visible call vs a subjective call? Lol
New to watching basketball here, but what does “losing home court” mean? Is it just as it sounds? They lost home court advantage the rest of the series?
@HALFRlCAN12
Ай бұрын
@@RogerDawson-ko5ns Oh, ok, that makes sense. Thank you!
Luka only shot 12 for 26. He wasn't very efficient in the first 3 quarters but closed out the 4th on his run. Rudy needs to stay back with his guy when Luka drives. If Jaden is on Luka, I'll take my chances that he's going to have to hit a tough runner instead of an easy assist to Rudy's man. We should be okay with Conley guarding Kyrie because NAW will come in for him midway through the quarter anyways.
We need to switch how we play the pick and roll. You guys are talking about switching way to much stuff for a team who just played bad. Towns needs to dominate there bigs and we when easy as that.
Too many 3s and not enough driving the lane on a mediocre defensive is the reason for the L. Play like the Wolves. Not like Golden State.
@quietlike
Ай бұрын
They closed out Ant when he got into the paint with their rim defenders. Mavs were giving up the three, that’s why wolves took em. They were open. Mavs are better than mediocre, and the wolves are better than they were this game
@daniellarsen889
Ай бұрын
@quietlike You can't abandon the paint. If this is going to happen the whole series, may as well just get swept and go home. Physical play wears out the opposition, creates fouls and spacing. Dallas was driving the paint, hence the victory.
If the Wolves take better care of the ball, and play a little better half-court ball, not jacking up so many threes, we'll be okay. We won't win a track meet, and will lose 9/10 of those style games. Bring ya ass, and some muscle, boys. Good point, Kyle, about the load balancing between KAT/ANT vs. Luka/Kyrie. Luka & Kyrie are gonna get theirs....let's get ours.
@WheresWaldo05
Ай бұрын
Wolves had 10 turnovers. Mavs had 13. I will take 10 every single stinking game.
They better drop a good amount of players deep to defend. Because we saw that Dallas can outrun the Wolves.
While I’d love for them to do away with goaltending (so long as it’s not someone punching up through the net or something), I don’t think there’s anyway they do that after having just invested in that tech they flashed afterwards and apparently used during the game. Also, even that tech showed that the ball was over 50% outside of the cylinder, so I have to assume that the rule requires it to be 100% out… which now makes me want to go back and watch all of the Mav’s putbacks to check for “interference”… but for all of Dončić’s whining, the ref’s fully listened to his calling for interference on that play - maybe we should do the same.
@icanhazgoodgame3845
Ай бұрын
If you get rid of offensive goaltending it would completely change the game. Offensive players would jam in every shot rattling around the rim and defensive players couldn't defend them. I think it was close, KAT got big air caught it high above the rim so it looked worse than it was actually was. We can't change every rule that hurts a team during the post season (see NFL) but maybe it could be tweaked so the "cylinder" does extend infinite above the rim.
@butterbean2257
Ай бұрын
Mavs 100% had 1 missed offensive goaltending call I don’t care enough to go find it, but I remember jumping up and complaining about it earlier in the game.
Uhhhh. We did KAT on KD and JOKIC, Why not Luka too? Put KAT on the best, it’s been working
1-0 bring ya ass
No matter how this series turns out, the experience in this playoff run is invaluable for the entire team, especially the young guys. This is the third playoff series in a row against 3 very different championship level teams. Who wants a cake walk championship run like Denver had last year? I want it to be earned. I had to listen to baseball pundits whine about the ‘87 Twins being a lucky champion for years. I trust that Finch will make the defensive adjustments necessary to win this series, but even if they don’t this is the start of something big for this franchise.
Naz Reid guarding Luka won't be better than Jaden?
@good2go619
Ай бұрын
How you think Naz Reid will navigate a screen? Luka would cook him 1v1 too.
Offensive goaltending call was bad
This is a dumb argument that a lot of people use. In a vacuum you can say that if they make just 2 more shots they win, but you are ignoring that if Dallas makes 4 more 3s and go 10 of 25 instead of 6 of 25, Dallas wins by 15. Dallas wasn't even close to playing their best game either on game 1.
Ant is hurt/injured.
Kyrie is 11 years older than Ant, he should be able to guard him, he just can't :)
People who are hating on Rudy don't realize that our team suffers without him on the floor. We give up huge runs without him.
I think Conley has to sit more this series. He's getting cooked. Need the younger guys in to defend the mavs backcourt.
@danielsharp3683
Ай бұрын
I agree but Finch absolutely will not play young guys .....it won't happen but it should absolutely!!!!
Mindset? Hahaha i got kyrie! He cant just follow irving!
Did it occur to you that the reason teams who played game 7s lose to teams that didn’t in the CF is because they are typically better that dont need 7 games just to get out of the second round? Dallas is just handled the 1 seed and everyone acts like they just came off an easy series 😂. Now they beat MN, and it’s because they had 2 days of rest instead of 1? Minnesota media is already grasping for straws
@joshuat7171
Ай бұрын
You think OKC is better than Denver, the returning champs? 😂🤣😂
@Thomasfrommygirl
Ай бұрын
@@joshuat7171 the last 7 “returning champs” haven’t repeated. It’s not as big of an accomplishment as people make it out to be 😂. Literally happens almost every year.
@Thomasfrommygirl
Ай бұрын
@@joshuat7171 and yeah… after 1 game with the Wolves, OKC was much tougher. They held Kyrie and Luka in check most games and SGA went off for 30+ every game…. In a single game, Kyrie and Luka both scored more than they did ANY game against OKC the whole series, and Minnesota’s “star” had 16 points. So right now, i don’t only think OKC was better than Denver… I think they’re better than the Wolves too. Go cry
@WheresWaldo05
Ай бұрын
Yet Mavs have now played 13 total games. Wolves 12. Try harder.
Mavericks only made 6 three pointers and still won.. mavericks did not play well.
Ant 3 terrible turnovers, Conley sucked, and quit doubling them in the paint, it never works
Just play zone
THE TIMBERWOLVES NEED TO BRING THEIR ASS. WAKE UP, WE JUST BEAT THE CHAMPS!
Luka is too good
Still a bullshit goaltending call… My fault for breaking my controller after that call but those refs owe me a new Roku remote 😂 Don’t make a game go down to that… stupid zebras
@joshrandor4371
Ай бұрын
It was a good call. They actually use tech to verify it immediately.
If any team can lock them down it’s the wolves
Wait, y'all are saying that the TWolves didn't show up and that's why y'all lost ???? Wow that's the best y'all come up with. Y'all played your best , just accept it. The Mavs are the better team. You delusional people you
Didn’t watch entire video, can someone let me know if Kylie cried?
@tkuebler9561
Ай бұрын
For sure he took 47 sips of a beverage.
@WheresWaldo05
Ай бұрын
So he is both an estrogen beta and an alcoholic. Got it!
You could just take out Lukas knee. How bad do the wolves want an nba championship?
Minnesota I'm so happy your down 0-2 jokic fan hear
@DaWolves
28 күн бұрын
who's jokic? ohhhhh you mean Rudy Gobert's son!
@deanpeanuts5112
24 күн бұрын
@@DaWolvesRudy? Oh you mean Luka’s son
@chriselrod-dl1wx
22 күн бұрын
Minnesota chokes