Nothing says, "No homosexuality," like an elaborate musical production.

@kallen868

Жыл бұрын

😂 Truth!

@serenegenerally

Жыл бұрын

If anything a theatre production is inherently fruity

@synodicseason

Жыл бұрын

i was in my school musical last year & a good third of us were gay/trans

@brettmastema7056

Жыл бұрын

I dont struggle with homosexuality, i'm quite good at it

@kallen868

Жыл бұрын

@@brettmastema7056 ❤😍

The last scene with Elizabeth narrating all her accomplishments before she dies is so powerful and moving and the church version is just like I showed children Jesus. It’s like she just made a orphanage to indoctrinate children. Ugh

@elaexplorer

Жыл бұрын

Well sure, these types of churches always limit women's accomplishments to mothering duties.

@axstorm2191

Жыл бұрын

there is nothing indoctrinating about bringing a child to Jesus Christ.

@SkwithOv

Жыл бұрын

@@axstorm2191 lol sure jan

@herrysterling6189

Жыл бұрын

@@axstorm2191 from an outsider perspective it's indoctrination

@lrose5522

Жыл бұрын

@@axstorm2191 I'll take "What is indoctrination" for 200 please

The wildest thing to me is that they clearly have enough money that they could just make their own damn play

@alisaurus4224

Жыл бұрын

But clearly writing is hard for them, judging by the clunky edits and additions. Much easier to steal & ask forgiveness later. Actually, i would bet they feel justified in breaking any number of laws if it’s in service of spreading ✨the Gospel✨… as if all of Texas isn’t already spread thicker with Jesus than Elvis’ sandwiches with peanut butter

@twimmy1581

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but then how would they capitalize on the existing love for the Hamilton music THEN?

@britnicox3929

Жыл бұрын

@@alisaurus4224 oh yeah they definitely feel justified in it

@alexiswelsh5821

Жыл бұрын

IKR, how hard is it to come up with a story with the following plot: 1. MC is born and raised in a bad part of an empire. 2. MC is orphaned, and loses the rest of his family. 3. MC rejects Jesus. 4. By the Grace of God, MC survives a natural disaster and is able to move to a better part of the empire and go to college. 5. MC helps part of the empire rebel and become it’s own country. 6. MC becomes corrupted by ambition, pride, and eventually lust. 7. MC’s marriage falls apart, people disown him, and his oldest kid dies. 8. MC accepts Jesus back into his life and fixes his relationships. 9. MC is no longer ambitious and lustful, however he still struggles with pride. 10. MC’s pride ends up killing him.

@misselizabethplays8070

Жыл бұрын

@@twimmy1581 Word. This is not about creative expression, this is about trying to co-opt something popular and turn it into a propaganda tool. That, and giving their congregation a "clean alternative" to something popular, but could possibly be "corrupted" by participating in. Something they do a lot, actually- a few examples come to mind: "Harvest festivals", Bibleman, every Christian pop artist...

The church: Thou shalt not steal Also the church: Let’s steal this highly successful musical and try to indoctrinate to people .

@nantae1047

Жыл бұрын

That's the horrendeous part, they think stealing is ok if if helps a 1% of the audience mEeT jEsUs

@gianna526

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, the second church isn't the first one. These kind of religious nuts aren't even following the religion. God never said to hate anyone, yet they hate the lgbtq community. I'm a Christian and so often these crazy religious people go against the religion they claim to follow.

@brettmastema7056

Жыл бұрын

a Methodist church in Vegas tried to do that and decided to make themselves look like a new theatre group. They started the season with Bye Bye Birdie which was done in the main church area. We sat in the pews to watch, because my friends daughter was in it. I spent most of the show writing stories about bestiality in Sharpie in the Bibles in front of me. They didn't do another show, they were in over their heads.

@skaisnotdead

10 ай бұрын

Most of Christianity is stolen from other religions so really it's the baseline of the institution.

@jassychanVO

4 ай бұрын

Would like, but it's at 666 😩

This production really shows that if you don’t distress the Hamilton costumes, they all look super cheesy

@teasorceryr3633

Жыл бұрын

The Party City version of Hamilton!

@lexwithbub

Жыл бұрын

But also, no amount of distressing can fix that shitty polyester 😉

@Jessidafennecfox

Жыл бұрын

@@lexwithbub it looks like something a newbie cosplayer would wear

@botanicus2921

Жыл бұрын

@@lexwithbub hey man, you’d be surprised the materials that get used in professional settings. Maybe not for a broadway show, but there have definitely been uses on screen. It’s incredible what a great painter and costumer can do even with limited budgets

@jungtothehuimang

Жыл бұрын

There costumes were serving dollar tree Halloween meets party city going out of business sale

I’ve never seen Hamilton, but because they used a beloved Broadway musical to push a homophobic message I honestly hope that this church gets sued to the ground.

@kaodi6993

Жыл бұрын

yes 🤷🏾‍♂️ and they have alot of money.

@roxannablack666

Жыл бұрын

I’m a big fan of taking money from religious organizations anyway. They have way too much lol.

@DaraJill

Жыл бұрын

As many an Etsy seller has learned: Never Fuck with Disney's Bag. Disney has no problem going after small creators for infringing on their IP.

@JimJamTheAdmin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, you aren't missing much with Hamilton. For me, I literally only give a shit because it's anti-gay.

@ontxtteredwxngs

Жыл бұрын

exactly. that has to be defamation, too if they're saying Lin would approve a homophobic version of this.

fuckin love seeing a media commentary channel where the creator actually knows what theyre talking about and has experience working on set lmfao hell yea nick stay winning my guy

@Cat_Woods

Жыл бұрын

"Honestly, I can see why Lin Manuel Miranda chose to cut this scene." 🤣

@AwesomeFreakMadd

Жыл бұрын

except that brief moment where the church made Nick straight. Luckily they fought through Lol

@brettmastema7056

Жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeFreakMadd I dont think Nick struggles with homosexualily he seems to do fabulously at being a homo.

As a Pansexual Christian in the dirty south, I can honestly say nothing good can come after the phrase "a church in Texas".

@hannacosmos

Жыл бұрын

A church in Texas burned down with kkk members inside, no one survived 🎺

@hsisnothere

Жыл бұрын

aye pansexuals unite 🤙🏻

@Debo_OG

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@genesiselaine

Жыл бұрын

😭

@stupidass69420

Жыл бұрын

im a trans aroace and I’ve been to Texas to see my family a few years back, it was NOT fun 😃!!

The general incoherence of this production aside, why on earth would the sermon be on homosexuality (or drug addiction, for that matter)? It's such a bizarre choice when there are a million things you could talk about that actually thematically tie in to the story of Hamilton in some way - ego and infidelity are both relevant story elements that would be insanely easy to work into a sermon

@kristen7687

Жыл бұрын

right and like im not even into hamilton and im aware of how important acceptance seems to be to lin manuel and this musical lol. like twisting his work into something hateful seems like the last thing youd wanna do if you didnt get permission and dont wanna be sued?

@littlemau1360

Жыл бұрын

Especially because hamilton was heavily rumored to have a male lover lmao

@ilovepiedoyou2

Жыл бұрын

I do not support this church but it wasn’t a sermon on homosexuality! The homosexuality part was one sentence from the sermon

@JnTmarie

Жыл бұрын

@@ilovepiedoyou2 you don’t rewrite a masterpiece!

@tracymartel10

Жыл бұрын

Shows once more that Christian’s cherry pick which things they care about 😂 They found a way to squeeze in homophobia in a show that had nothing to do with homosexuality

As someone who lives in the valley, it’s really disheartening to see that THIS is the musical theater we finally get recognized for. There are high schools and performing arts centers in the valley, more specifically McAllen who have put on amazing, LEGAL productions of wonderful shows but because of the area we live in, they hardly get any recognition outside of the Palm Awards. Though it may be surprising because we’re the home of Scamilton, this is actually quite a liberal bubble of Texas. This county and the surrounding areas voted against Trump twice, and a Latina progressive has just been nominated to represent this congressional district in the upcoming election. Whatever your take away from this is, don’t let it be that this specific area of Texas sucks. Texas as a whole is the worst, but we’re ok (not great, but ok.)

@AwesomeFreakMadd

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it's a pretty progressive area :) As a born and raised South Texan who ran away to the North lol I'm normally pretty ashamed of Texas as a whole but I also fully understand that there are so many amazing individuals who are gerrymandered into their red districts and work so hard for equality. Also being in marching band in high school, playing against the valley schools was terrifying. They were amazing as hell! Best musicians around.

@MEIindustries

Жыл бұрын

the Latina is a republican, not progressive lol

@rs-mt6kl

Жыл бұрын

Lol this is honestly the best most honest take on a sort of Texas from a texan I've ever read. Sincerely, a Michigander who's area is "Not The Worst but pretty Not Great"

@stargazingstar3239

Жыл бұрын

I was born in Texas and it's good to see that some parts are still ok

@jazminsalas2346

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I'm from McAllen and it's so sad this is what we are getting recognition for

I just think it’s funny that they removed a bunch of songs but keep “Say no to this” which is literally about Hamilton cheating…

@brettmastema7056

Жыл бұрын

I think that pastor had a wife who cheated in his past. He really was blaming much of the problems of AH on that one thing.

@quasi8180

Жыл бұрын

Ah the irony

@Wade.Stikmann

Жыл бұрын

Guess they didn't know how to say no to this.

@jemqoos7166

Жыл бұрын

Tbh the rest of the show wouldn’t make any sense if they left that song out

@DeathnoteBB

Жыл бұрын

@@jemqoos7166 They still took out other songs that made it make sense

The off-beat banging on the table during the Hercules bit 💀💀💀

@alexwyatt2911

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure that’s not the only thing he bangs with such lackluster enthusiasm and unsatisfying rhythm.

@sarah-zv8ld

Жыл бұрын

@@alexwyatt2911 this roast wasnt even about me and i had to take a breather

@thalyzasotus5229

Жыл бұрын

"Ayyy 😐" 😐✊👊😐✊😐👊

@jayfeather8023

Жыл бұрын

@@alexwyatt2911 *W H E E Z E*

@geministrial950

Жыл бұрын

@@alexwyatt2911 DAAAMN

Kind of off topic, but I've seen Phillipa Soo (the original Elizabeth Hamilton actress) in person, she's seriously one of the most talented singers I've ever heard. Her tone is so beautiful, her control and vocal agility are wildly impressive. Uggh she's just so damn talented I love her voice sm

@serenegenerally

Жыл бұрын

Oh that’s cool!! Also kak pfp 👀

@Feimicha

Жыл бұрын

I’m not the biggest theatre kid, but I always love listening to her voice. Her pure and clear tone always makes me envious : >

@777letsgoo

Жыл бұрын

IM SO JEALOUS YOU'RE SO LUCKYYY

@amandalynn4979

Жыл бұрын

Saw her in Into The Woods and Camelot! She's a very sweet and talented person 😊

@eeng17

Жыл бұрын

You're so lucky to have seen her in person and from what I've seen in the Hamilton movie, she is amazing.

This is just the embodiment of fundamentalist privilege to think the original creators and license holders telling you "Fuck around and find out" is some how authorization to steal other's property. Pretty sure the Bible has a whole lot to say about stealing. Actual theatre companies have had their authorized licenses pulled for making too many changes. I guess none of the lawyers involved wanted the sticky wicket of suing a church, but they really should have done it and stopped the production.

@Cat_Woods

Жыл бұрын

Yes. The more churches get away with this, the more entitled they feel to keep doing it. They just count on "no one will sue a church." Time to have more lawsuits against churches.

@DaraJill

Жыл бұрын

@@Cat_Woodstheir "religious freedom" ended when they decided to make a profit and upload it. Clearly they want the notoriety and to fundraise off of their "persecution".

@DarlingMissDarling

Жыл бұрын

@@DaraJill yep, they'll scream "persecution" from now until the world implodes. All while conveniently leaving out the whole "stealing" part, of course.

@jinx17

Жыл бұрын

That's what happens when churches are exempt from so much ie taxes 😒 they think they're untouchable

@stewieismyhomeboy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, ain't that some shit. The Disney lawyers are fine suing daycares and parents of dead children, but when it comes to police officers who use the Punisher logo without authorization or a church that put on a version of Hamilton where they changed some lyrics to be about Jesus, they pause with the lawyers. Hm.

I hope Lin-Manuel sues them because THE DISRESPECT 😭

@amandalynn4979

Жыл бұрын

Lin announced last week he and the Writer Guild had slapped them with a cease and desist and are looking into a lawsuit, don't worry, he's getting their asses.

@stxrstruck6755

Жыл бұрын

@@amandalynn4979 THANK GOD

@11MissingPhoenix

Жыл бұрын

@@amandalynn4979 I read it as _"Lin slapped them"_ 💀💀

@thelanktheist2626

Жыл бұрын

@@11MissingPhoenix Lin is slapping that church with legal so hard

@sharkyy3917

Жыл бұрын

​@@thelanktheist2626 ahoy!! a fellow greg

you reviewing awful christian movies is, in a funny way, really helpful to me as a queer person working through religious trauma. of course i’m laughing my ass off during these videos but hearing a non-religious perspective/commentary (especially from a fellow queer person) is beneficial for me. i really appreciate you and your content thanks nick 💜💛🤍🖤

@Michael-vw7pk

Жыл бұрын

One of the best bits of commentary on the church from Nick has really stuck with me the past few weeks: "god was telling people to cut each other in half, why would you listen to anything HE says?" YES YES YES thank you Nick 💕

@hsisnothere

Жыл бұрын

@@Michael-vw7pk what a great quote

@emilydeaton1169

Жыл бұрын

As someone who’s been there, sending love your way! Your are loved and whole as you are. 💜

@Sarahonwheels

Жыл бұрын

Sending love and light to you!

@sholem_bond

Жыл бұрын

If you're interested, Ex-Fundie Diaries and Fundie Fridays on KZread (and Hannah Reloaded and Hannah and Jake on Twitch and on KZread, plus Demon Mama on Twitch and KZread) all talk about skepticism/atheism or about recovering from growing up in very religious communities.

When I was 16, I was in a religious production called "Heaven's Gates and Hell's Flames." There was no copyright to worry about, but I wanna talk about it anyway. The play was a series of scenes where we see the last moments of people's lives before they die, and they received their sentence, heaven or hell (I went to Hell btw). I was extremely freaked out the first rehearsal, being dragged to Hell and all, but I felt like hey this is the Lord's work, right? I thought this play was doing something good and transformative, bringing people closer to Christ, but looking back it was straight up fear mongering. Seeing scenes where kids are sent to Hell, parents and kids are separated in the afterlife because a mom wanted to go shopping with her daughter instead of going to church, *TW* seeing a woman unalive after her husband abandons her and end up in hell, it was all really heavy stuff. Gave a whole new meaning to God-fearing. I'm sure plenty of people 'repented' out of genuine fear. I sympathize with these kids who probably felt the same way I did when I was that age, like they were going to inspire people to get saved, but are actually doing the opposite. I hope these kids aren't being mocked by their peers for this, but I also hope the Hamilton team takes legal action and the pastor takes the brunt of the pushback. I'm sure the church can pay up with the taxes they don't have to pay

@kathyjuola6317

Жыл бұрын

I had forgotten the title, but I totally remember going to see that play! Yeah, it was pretty intense.

@melaniedejonge5234

Жыл бұрын

I saw that play! The only vignette I remember was the father and son who get in a car accident. The father didn’t go to church on sundays because he wanted to watch football. When they were standing before judgement, the father was sobbing and begging for his son to be spared. He was saying, “i’ll take my punishment, but please-my boy has done nothing wrong! He only believed what I told him!” But nope! They both got dragged off to hell. And I was like…damn. God’s kind of a dick.

@jordy_muhnordy

Жыл бұрын

@@melaniedejonge5234 apparently there's different skits they pick from, but that one was in the play I was in! So freaking dark, man

@melaniedejonge5234

Жыл бұрын

@@jordy_muhnordy RIGHT????

@WhirlyBeepBoops

Жыл бұрын

I remember some church in our state had something called the House of Fate (or was it House of Faith?) that was something quite similar - the audience would go to different rooms featuring skits of people meeting untimely deaths, then those that died would be sent based on wether they accepted Jesus as their Savior. The audience wasn't sentenced; they were allowed to see the ones that ended up in hell, but that was optional (since of course that could be scary for some). After that, everybody walked to heaven while passing Jesus being nailed to the cross. At least, that's my memory of it. So the one I saw was... better? But probably not free from those basic flaws. Still probably fearmongering, in the way of "you might die in a car crash soon because life is unpredictable, better pray to be saved before it's too late". Ouch.

As someone who works in wardrobe, I'm living for your costume disses. Eliza's dress was definitely taken out of a package and nothing happened to it before this girl was forced to wear it. 19:59 I laughed so hard at this comment. They were told to take it all down. Nothing on the internet ever stays gone. This is an insult to the people behind this show. Changing the time period, lyrics, or anything to any copyrighted material is illegal. "What about Shakespeare?!" Shakespeare is public domain. You can do whatever. Once this happened, it was crazy to me how many people defended the church and didn't know that schools pay for rights. "Thou shalt not steal."

@DarlingMissDarling

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! "Thou shalt not steal (unless it's for jesus then it's like totally ok because since god made the world he basically owns everything so then it's not really stealing) amen!"

@DaraJill

Жыл бұрын

@@DarlingMissDarling you just know that dress was Amazon Cosplay Musical Hamilton DIY Revolutionary Victorian Dress $39.99 special.

@DarlingMissDarling

Жыл бұрын

@@DaraJill haha oh no doubt!

@leahmoore6820

Жыл бұрын

@@DaraJill Oh definitely.

@PanicLedisko

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!! They are so blinded by their obsession with Jesus, they are some how oblivious to how hypocritical they are!! They're the same to me as any alt right, any argument you try to have with them they cannot think logically, so when you try to show them facts and speak logically it goes right in one ear and out the other. It's infuriating!! I can't even stand dealing with them!

All that money the save not paying taxes, and they still couldnt pay to get Eliza's dress steamed!

@HeySlothKid

Жыл бұрын

I mean it’s clearly 100% synthetic so perhaps they were worried it would melt. (Seriously though cotton would have been period appropriate why use that awful shiny lining fabric)

@NathalieO

Жыл бұрын

Oh! Shot!😁

@queerqueen098

Жыл бұрын

@Edward Vincent Laybourn Waller hahaha

@Feimicha

Жыл бұрын

In the first few clips I cringed really hard at the CLEARLY MODERN BLAZER that they used for the churchified Aaron Burr ;-; The costumes had NO historical silhouettes and it made me feel horrendous

@quasi8180

Жыл бұрын

The costumes are lazy as fuck they couldve used cotton or linen or something wool perhaps they definately have the money for it Eliza's dress is horrendous

So they claimed they had permission, but actually didn't? Hmm. I seem to remember something about lying being a sin. 🤔

@giovannirastrelli9821

Жыл бұрын

The lied, stole, and coveted. Some church.

@brettmastema7056

Жыл бұрын

I thought they got that AFTER it was learned about. They let them do their final show with the expressed thing they could not live stream it and had to remove the on line videos. I could be wrong but I heard this was given to them when they had one show left after everyone knew. They still were going to have to pay fines. I honestly haven't confirmed this. I usually do before stating things but ive been smoking pot and im feeling lazy. At least i admit that. 😀

@giovannirastrelli9821

Жыл бұрын

@@brettmastema7056 He uses misleading phrasing to imply they had the rights all along.

@brettmastema7056

Жыл бұрын

@@giovannirastrelli9821 Well that's unfortunate. Apparently that is what Jesus would have done. Noted.

@nantae1047

Жыл бұрын

Because lying and stealing is completely okay if you drive people 🦄 🌈🌠closer to jesus🦄🌈🌠 trough it 😌😌😌

The idea that Hamilton was being converted during his speech in The World Was Wide Enough doesn’t even work. Hamilton says that they started going to church as a family during It’s Quiet Uptown. The lyric is “we take the children to church on Sunday, the sign of the cross at the door, and I pray, that never used to happen before.” It’s like they never even listened to the original soundtrack.

I read somewhere that some historians (and Lin Manuel Miranda himself) believed that the real Alexander Hamilton might have been bisexual, but obviously he kept it secret because of the laws of the time. If that's true then this church accidentally making a play about a bi historical figure and attaching an anti queer message at the end is the most ironic thing ever.

@iwakeupandboomimarat

Жыл бұрын

even if its still a debated subject, the musical itself pretty much plays him as bisexual so its straight washing anyways 😭 straighties gonna straight

@kariissmol9172

Жыл бұрын

@@iwakeupandboomimarat i mean the letters to Lawrence... dayum that was very gay

@11MissingPhoenix

Жыл бұрын

This is the most well-done comment on this whole shit play

@bumblebeeproductions1673

Жыл бұрын

Also he was having an affair during the war with his gay friend John Laurens

@11MissingPhoenix

Жыл бұрын

@@bumblebeeproductions1673 Yup ⭐

There's nothing more terrifying than a church production of anything.

I have extended family that's from the town this whole scandal happened, and it's wild to see it blow up everywhere. I always knew some random part of the town did plays and broadcast them on tv growing up, but this is wild. I feel bad for the kids a bit because some of them are just really into musical theater in the RGV, and this mess is one of the only outlets.

@cam4636

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure, but like, if you're willing to say "yes I'm cool with homophobia" to get a part you're not getting sympathy from me

@Annie_Annie__

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I’m from south Texas (though not the Valley) and there just aren’t many venues for the arts for kids at all down here. Especially since *if* a kid’s school has a theater elective, they’re often bullied for it because of the rampant homophobia down here. And often the only way a kid is able to participate in theater of any sort is if they’re a little girl that’s been taking ballet since toddlerhood and get a part in the annual production of the Nutcracker. Other than that your only other option is church plays. (For some reason being in those doesn’t make you “gay” or “evil”, but being in your public school’s theatre class or being a boy in choir makes you “gay” and worthy of bullying. Make it make sense!)

@alisaurus4224

Жыл бұрын

RGV = Rio Grande Valley. I’m in Texas too, but Dallas area, so i don’t see that abbreviation much and i had to look it up 😁

@maryellenparmenter9303

Жыл бұрын

@@cam4636 those kids might not agree with the pastor's homophobia or even know he would say that. I participated in church dramas and my pastor had terrible views that I didn't agree with. Kids tend to be not in control of what church they attend

@Annie_Annie__

Жыл бұрын

@@alisaurus4224 Yeah, “RGV” or just “the Valley” is common shorthand in south Texas for the Rio Grande Valley. It’s known to the rest of the country as “ya know that little tip at the bottom of Texas? That area.”

How did this church get away with having their own Beauty and the Beast musical online? Disney is pretty legendary for being extremely litigious when it comes to protecting their IP.

@kamilareeder1493

Жыл бұрын

Hi, choreographer here. The simple answer, is that it's really hard to sue churches in some states. Hmm fairytale are tougher 🥲☝️ the original plot and story are clearly public domain by now, so you'd have to make sure the dialog, musical numbers, and characters were different from Disney ☝️. Doable, but takes lots more creativity and planning to get out of Disney's HUGE shadow 😪. With the money, they could have done it, but they lacked creativity for sure. It seems like they had money but are unskilled lol

@shayneelizabeth358

Жыл бұрын

Who wants to be in the news for suing a church?

@brettmastema7056

Жыл бұрын

@@kamilareeder1493 There was a professional Theatre production of Aladdin done for a Christmas season. Which they, quite comically, had things which were similar but were very clear were not the same as the disney version. The princess was not Jasmine, she was Yasmin. The cave of wonders was like "a tunnel of secrets" They would have been much harder to go after had they gone full out and changed lyrics and made them a parody. Doesn't need to be even that funny, just has to be different enough that the shows message had been transformative. Then Boo-Yah we got a legit case of whether its fair use

@kamilareeder1493

Жыл бұрын

@@brettmastema7056 😂😂😂💀 thanks for sharing.

@brettmastema7056

Жыл бұрын

@@kamilareeder1493 ahh, thanks for appreciating my random additions to the conversation. 😍💙

10:23 I’ve always been very confused and concerned about Hercules Mulligan’s interest in horses too, this should be discussed more by all of us

@randomrose6398

Жыл бұрын

I think I read somewhere that the line is SUPPOSED to mean like, the daughters will use the horses to go to a bootycall w/Mulligan??? I still always think he’s dtf a horse though LMAO

@knorkyat

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense but it feels like Lin Manuel Miranda really favoured the rhyming scheme over being clear that Mulligan was not a horse-fucker which is a bold choice lol

@misselizabethplays8070

Жыл бұрын

Any foal's a goal.

@knorkyat

Жыл бұрын

HahahHahahaha

@knorkyat

Жыл бұрын

Was stealing horses a bigger deal than fucking them?

Had to cleanse after with the original pro-shot. What's sad is Hamilton was literally bisexual. They made a show about a man who was bi in real life and turned it homophobic. It's disrespectful!

@tut252

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, so enraging with the audacity of these people

@11MissingPhoenix

Жыл бұрын

Ikr!! It pissed me off so much 💀

@11MissingPhoenix

Жыл бұрын

@Edward Vincent Laybourn Waller Yea, Lams is OTP 💛

@Singalong54321

Жыл бұрын

@Edward Vincent Laybourn Waller I always use that as an example! Literal love letters. Can't deny there was something more than friends between them.

@thalyzasotus5229

Жыл бұрын

@Edward Vincent Laybourn Waller naw!! They were just besties lmao!! Homies amiright 🙄🙄

Remember when the cast of Hamilton put the entire show on pause to basically tell Mike Pence that he sucks? I want to see them do that with the people who made this rip off. Also, I’m not even a theater kid, and I know the difference between a play and a musical production. The straights are gonna straight, I guess.

@keshagriffin3375

Жыл бұрын

Same

@patty1247

Жыл бұрын

They didn’t do that. At the end of the show when typically the cast takes a bow and a cast member read a speech advocating for basic human rights that was co-signed by the entire cast. They were incredibly respectful! Fellow theater goers boo-ed at Pence. I just think it’s important not to feed into the right wing narrative that the cast attacked Pence. They didn’t.

@joemama-zm4de

Жыл бұрын

@@patty1247 ..... bro its not an attack to say someone sucks LOL

@thequeenofcringe1585

Жыл бұрын

@@patty1247 yeah true, but sometimes you have to simplify things for right wing idiots. Hell, you have to simplify things for right wing idiots most of the time.

@YukiLeiu

Жыл бұрын

@@joemama-zm4de right? Like they brought up attack op just said tell.

The differences in the singing and harmonies has me weak 😭😭😭”at least one orphanage needs to stay private” LMAO

I feel like there's a good dozen musicals out there that would make more sense to plagiarize into an anti-gay thing. I mean Dear Evan Hansen already feels like it's a story about how being a closeted gay is miserable even though that's not what it's even remotely about, seems like that would be pretty easy to turn into homophobic propaganda. Or Fiddler on the Roof, with its built-in storyline of a father struggling with his childrens' love lives, seems like altering it so the love lives get progressively more gay would work great if you wanted to do some homophobic plagiarism. Can't believe I'm brainstorming this topic right now.

@jessnather2700

Жыл бұрын

i think a church production of Fiddler on the Roof would be a very, very bad idea

@DisabledDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@jessnather2700 Honestly, with the way some Christians treat Jews and Judaism, I can totally imagine that happening. Complete with literal come-to-Jesus moment. Can't even Pinterest a holiday without being told how it was actually about Jesus.

@gasterthemaster6490

Жыл бұрын

Imagine LSOH with this premise. Suddenly Seymour would be completely removed, and he gets eaten because he LoVeD tHe WrOnG pEoPlE.

The irony of these people cosplaying Federalists like Hamilton. They clearly haven't read their Publius. The lack of historical understanding 😭

@misselizabethplays8070

Жыл бұрын

Historical revisionism is kind of their whole thing.

Hearing the side by side of "the orphanage" part made me sob, I had to pause and walk away

@CH-xq6if

Жыл бұрын

It's insane, and she did so much non faith orientated good they could of talked about without making it sound like she was an orphan murderer

I used to be straight but gay sex ruined me. One of my ‘friends’ introduced me to gay sex and it was pretty cool at first, but I kept on wanting more and more, until eventually I became immune to normal levels of gay sex, I didn’t get the same hit, I needed more. My addiction became so bad I almost died of gay sex overdose and withdrawal at the same time. I’m in gay sex rehab right now, but I still crave the gay sex.

Did the church *intentionally* choose to ripoff the musical who's lead is the largest bisexual disaster that's been created for a musical?

@drawingoddessy

Жыл бұрын

“Largest bisexual disaster” that’s definitely Hamilton all right 💀

Why yes, I WAS terrified on seeing the title this was going to be the Jenny Nicholson Church, drunk on their success. I'm glad I was reassured within 4 words.

@DecoraGarfoid

Жыл бұрын

I thought so too!

Imagine going to see this thinking it was the real Hamilton

@11MissingPhoenix

Жыл бұрын

I wouldve walked out 💀

@eeng17

Жыл бұрын

Ohhh danggggg

I do not know what I love more, the smooth transition to the sponsor or Nick pretending to cook in an empty pan 🤣. The dedication, keepin it 💯

@D-AMJ-C

Жыл бұрын

I wanna see him pretending to bathe in an empty tub next! 😂 I love the funny!

Wow they really thought that years of tweaking, writing, rewriting, and editing the original musical to make it sound poetic, concise, cool as hell, etc could be sloppily replaced with half-assed Christian nonsense and still have the same impact.

@DaraJill

Жыл бұрын

Even if they had changed the lyrics entirely, the music is subject to copyright by Miranda and his orchestrator/music director Alex Lacamoire. You can be sued just for using the melodies in their entirety. The parody Spamilton made changes to the music and cut the show to 80 min (also parody and satire are protected because they are commentary on the piece as whole, not a recreation that alters the original work)

@screwyourhandle

Жыл бұрын

Considering my personal experience with the quality of Christian popular music, I'm guessing the actual target audience is so jazzed on Jesus that they don't really care

@thalyzasotus5229

Жыл бұрын

I READ IT AS TWERKING.

I adore Hamilton and am a gay so this dollar store sale production nearly killed me but you made it tolerable, Nick, thanks.

If you have the chance, please consider covering the church musicals that Jenny Nicholson recently covered, those are such a chaotic force.. Also the pregnancy pact!

@cewapaiget5734

Жыл бұрын

Jenny Nicholson ;)

@Natashamertens

Жыл бұрын

I loved that video

I’m a straight Christian and I can’t believe that church messed with Hamilton 😭 I hope they learn their lesson. Also, I absolutely LOVE your energy and charisma, you gained a new subscriber 🤗✨👑

My favorite part was when the church was saying, "No, we got licensing." Like? Did they think the Hamilton team was too busy with the Broadway and touring shows to notice that this was going on? Also love how they claimed they got permission, yet there is not one single copyright blurb on any of the promotional material/program. When we do shows, there is like a paragraph of text somewhere on the posters saying who we licensed the show through.

I wonder how the fall out from this, and "The Unofficial Bridgerton Musical", are going to change copyright laws in general. It's weird that both of these 'creators' got warnings and stipulations from the copyright holders, and they both decided to interpret that as blessings to go as far as they wanted.

@afroditesis4738

Жыл бұрын

I dont think it will change anything. Both these people were flagrant in their disregard for copyright. As long as others don't do that, they should be fine.

@DaraJill

Жыл бұрын

Barlow and Bear went the route "better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission". It was in the realm of fair use fan art, until they started doing live performances. When they got the Grammy nom they should have immediately engaged a licensing attorney to try to actually do it legit. They took the early Netflix bemusement as approval, because they wanted to push their luck, that's just stupidity. If they were doing a parody, and not sincerity, they would have much more ground to stand on.

@agentbeauty7516

Жыл бұрын

@@afroditesis4738 The problem is, this creates high stakes, public precedent. Using fanfiction, or changing it 'just enough' could have serious repercussions. If either side wins, it opens the door to anyone saying fuck you to original creators. Making adaptations and profit while ignoring the creator. (I know this is over simplified. But it's the gist)

@afroditesis4738

Жыл бұрын

@@agentbeauty7516 I agree with you. That's why I'm pretty sure it will either settle out of court or the original creators will win.

@JodiStrikesBack

Жыл бұрын

tHoU sHaLt NoT sTeAl

Oh my god I was so hoping you would do this video! Im completely obsessed with scamilton and tiktok has only so many videos 😂😂

@NickDiRamioTV

Жыл бұрын

loll ive seen those edits too so funny 😂

i want to add a note that at one point lin did tweet something about how no one had noticed that he made it sound like mulligan wanted to fuck a horse, so you’re not crazy for that lmfao

My old church did a parody of “Alexander Hamilton” and made it about how thankful they were for their volunteers. No joke, I used to go once in a while but THAT was the final nail in the coffin

2 videos in 24 hours? We are blessed. Truly iconic. I needed some light and scathing funny commentary to give me relief from the hell that is my body 🥰

My long distance best friend and I just had an hour long conversation about this while I shopped at target the other day. I’m so glad you made this video so we can have another call debriefing this.

If the original creators/rights holders give you permission to perform an alternate version of their show, I see no problem with adapting/changing some lyrics and/or scenes as long as the core of the show remains the same. When I was a kid there was a Christian version of Grease, for example, that only took out the sex references in “Greased Lightning” and changed the pregnancy storyline for Rizzo to an abusive bf scenario instead (not Kenickie). At the end Sandy did appear in her biker-girl costume but Danny takes the leather jacket off her and asks a girl standing by for her Sandy-esque sweater, which he puts on her shoulders as he tells Sandy she doesn’t need to change for him but he appreciates the fact that she was willing to do so. Rizzo leaves her abusive bf and ends up with Kenickie, the guy who was her shoulder for the whole play. Both couples do kiss at the end (though it’s a Disney stage kiss where they just hug and turn their heads so it looks like they are kissing) but the only mention of religion in the show is during “Look at Me, I’m Sandra Dee” when Rizzo talks about how Sandy is a P.K. and doesn’t know anything about the real world and it makes her sick. That is how you respectfully alter a Broadway show to push your own agenda. What this church did with Hamilton was disrespectful, illegal, and disgraceful. They need to be sued and perhaps barred from staging other such recreations.

@gideongivesharrowboners

Жыл бұрын

that sounds WAY better than the original Grease tbh

@kailyns8159

Жыл бұрын

@@gideongivesharrowboners I’m not surprised. A lot of people, myself included, hate how Sandy drastically changes herself for Danny. If she changed for herself it’d be different. But she does it for him and to fit in with his crowd. I especially despise how “You’re the One That I Want” from the movie basically is a billboard telling Danny that Sandy is willing to have sex with him now. How do you go from running away from a guy because he tried to grope you to telling that same guy “if you’re filled with affection you’re too shy to convey, meditate in my direction, feel your way” in ONE DAY? That’s not healthy. Even the original song from the Broadway show- “All Choked Up”- is all about how horny Danny is and how Sandy is willing to help him out. Sandy has no identity in this show. She starts out the perfect daughter falling for a guy she thinks is the perfect son. When she finds out he is a rebel and has a lot more experience than he let on, she feels betrayed but still likes him. This is okay. What destroys the Sandy character for me is when she abandons the perfect daughter persona to be the perfect biker-girl persona instead. People like to argue that Danny changes for her too. But he doesn’t. He still has all the same opinions and morals at the beginning of the show as he does at the end. Sandy does not.

@gideongivesharrowboners

Жыл бұрын

@@kailyns8159 you are absolutely right. danny changes nothing about himself, and sandy just wipes away what few character traits she had (charater traits like, um. well. she's got... yeah never mind) in order to be a biker girl. it sends a really mixed message to any viewer.

@molly_parker_1847

Жыл бұрын

@@kailyns8159otally, and since Grease is such a popular broadway show and movie nobody wants to admit how totally problematic it is including the 2nd Grease. Just because the guy is changing himself for a women this time doesn’t mean it’s any less problematic. I love these movies as much as the next person but you can like it and still understand how bad it is.

@kailyns8159

Жыл бұрын

@@molly_parker_1847 Grease 2 is so much worse than Grease. And I don’t mean it’s a terrible movie (which it IS), but that compared to Grease the teen issues are way more problematic. Stephanie and Johnny: she broke up with him and he acts like she isn’t allowed to date anyone else. He literally drives her new love interest off a cliff! Paulette and Johnny: toxic as hell; he treats her like he owns her, telling her what to wear, where she can and can’t go. He continues to harass Stephanie while pursuing Paulette. Naturally this upsets her and he doesn’t even care. Louis and Sharon: there is nothing funny about tricking a girl into sleeping with you by scaring her; she made it clear she wasn’t ready and he kept pushing. “Reproduction”: OMG what a huge misfire. Not comedic at all. Blaming a girl for the fact that you (the boys) can’t control yourselves. She’s wearing the clothes that are available to her, and that included those awful triangle boob bras that gave girls that pin-up model figure. Claiming that when a girl straightens her sweater it’s a signal that she’s ready to undress. Gah! Stephanie and Michael: She’s awful to Michael when they first meet; and he knows this. So when he doesn’t tell her who he is when he’s dressed as the mysterious biker boy of her fantasy that’s really bad. He’s saying “you treat me different now and I like my chances so I’m going to stay quiet.” Essentially he is tricking her into sex by letting her believe he is someone else. “Score Tonight”: TRASH It hurts me so much that Judy Garland’s youngest daughter Lorna is associated with this train wreck. She portrayed Paulette. It ruined her chances for a career. She never got another job. And between her and her sister Liza, Lorna is the one with the real “Judy” pipes.

Your work ethic is honestly inspiring. The consistent quality is just unmatched!!

Hamilton was a Christian, it was an important part of his identity to him. The idea that they have him rejecting Jesus throughout it would be insulting to him. As someone who has lost a child and Quiet Uptown breaks my heart every time I was so angry they changed it to feel like it's about his conversion and suggest that it's his choices that lost him his son.

@efolinsky

Жыл бұрын

And he was bisexual

@missopenblue89

Жыл бұрын

He had strayed away from the religion for awhile plus he had his affair and he wasn't going out preaching to people about his beliefs either

@mxclaireharris

Жыл бұрын

@@missopenblue89 lots of people have affairs, it doesn't mean they strayed from their faith. I've yet to find that he rejected his faith and someone used his son's death to bring him back to his faith. From what I can see he was the only one who held his faith and criticised others for losing it.

@stewieismyhomeboy

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but then they'd have to recognize that "accepting Jesus" doesn't magically make you stop sinning.

@dragongirl7978

Жыл бұрын

Lol wow, was he? I can never keep track of which founding fathers were deists and which were Christian. That makes this so much worse. 🤦🏽‍♀️

Back-to-back Nick DiRamio episodes are much more effective in convincing me to believe in a god than any of this right-wing Christian drivel. Thank you for making this shit into sugar.

I'm sure someone has already mentioned it but if they haven't Jenny Nicholson covered a Canadian church called Church of the Rock that does these elaborate easter plays that are often just popular movies worked to be about the crucifixion with popular songs in them. Because nothing says Easter like seeing Simba get crucified and having someone sing Adele.

‘Hamilton is the gayest thing son Disney+” The Owl House: am I a joke to you?

I literally cackled when you mentioned zoom interview with a vampire. Thanks for making my weekend lunch breaks entertaining. 💜❤️

the changed bits are especially weird to me because there's already a strong undercurrent of religiosity in Hamilton, you don't have to change it. George Washington quotes scripture, the whole song It's Quiet Uptown has both strong religious undertones and overt religious references (I take the children to church on Sunday/The sign of the cross at the door/And I pray/That never used to happen before) and the play ends with the implication that both Alexander and Eliza went to heaven. You don't really have to change anything, but I guess they really wanted to do an alter call in there. At least the plays Jenny Nicholson highlighted were changed enough they likely count as fair use/parody (except where they lift whole pop songs with no change) but this is just... Hamilton with a few clunky line changes and an alter call.

Fell to my knees laughing from shock when it cut to the church version at 9:48. 😭

When I was twelve years old, I rewrote the entire Hamilton soundtrack, including Laurens Interlude and Congratulations, and made it about Undertale characters. How was that mess better written than this??

@gasterthemaster6490

Жыл бұрын

That sounds funny. Do you still have it saved somewhere?

@Em-bq3gs

Жыл бұрын

@@gasterthemaster6490 No, I unfortunately erased all copies of it because it made me cringe too hard

@gasterthemaster6490

Жыл бұрын

@@Em-bq3gs I can just imagine: Alexander Sansilton.

@Em-bq3gs

Жыл бұрын

​@@icedqq​Mettaton was the one who played Thomas Jefferson "What'd I Miss?" and Asriel was Phillip. Burn was about Toriel leaving Asgore. I'm sorry that's all I can remember at the moment.

hey nick, i don't know if you've already done something like this on patreon or here, but i would love a little video introducing us to your dog and how the adoption process was for you. i also rescued a little one after fostering and its a unique experience that'd i'd enjoy getting your take on

@DecoraGarfoid

Жыл бұрын

yessss pleaseee

Hamilton literally starts going to church after his son died? There was no need for all of that

I’m getting secondhand embarrassment for these poor kids who just wanted to be in a fun musical, or were just pushed into it by their parents. Imagine the crap they must be getting from their classmates and friends.

Id bet anything Eliza is the pastor's daughter. She wouldnt have cut it for my high school's no-cut chorale

okay but the “yes…yes…speak to pharmacist!” bit was literally me this morning 😂😂

Wow, I’m from the rgv and this church has always been too much. That pastor, preacher, wheeler dealer has been holding on to his hair since 05. Love the video breakdowns, I watch them with my wife.

The 🎵😩'tHe OrPhAnAgE' 😩🎵 made me laugh so much 😭😭😭

Also, super glad The Friendly Atheist was such a good source for you! Hemant really has terrific reporting all the time.

Just discovered you and had to say I'm really digging all your content..interesting and insightful..love the energy you bring and positive vibes you create..so yeah keep doing what you are doing..xo

Omg i haven’t heard about this at all, but this is wild, I feel bad for the attorneys and lawyer who have to watch this remake on repeat to pin pont all the copyright laws they broke

@misselizabethplays8070

Жыл бұрын

Actually, I picture them doing this with wicked glee. Getting paid to meticulously and mercilessly roast this garbage probably had them giggling maniacally all the way to the bank.

@cestmon8475

Жыл бұрын

@@misselizabethplays8070 I love that!!! The thought of a straight up roast session on this “musical” brings me life!!! 🤣

@misselizabethplays8070

Жыл бұрын

@@cestmon8475 "We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and read."

@gasterthemaster6490

Жыл бұрын

@@misselizabethplays8070 ah yes, Ratatoing.

Glad they're getting sued, using such a fantastic musical to push homophobia and such lazy forced jesus lyrics is criminal

I honestly can't wait until society progresses past all this nonsensical hate and fairytale bs. Keep up the good work, Nick! You're awesome!

Omg I’ve been binging your videos for hours, they always make me smile. Thank you for all that you do!!!

As a huge fan of Hamilton, this church makes me sick. Why do they think it’s okay to, not only perform the play without permission, but to change the lyrics!!!?? I hope they get the pants sued off of them.

Believe more than ever that churches should be taxed

I would watch a 2 hour video of you reacting to the entire musical in a heartbeat

"A church in Texas did Hamilton" wut 🤔🤔🤔🤔 "They changed the songs to include bigotry" Oh.... That makes more sense.

What have we done for u to bless us like this with vids back to back 😭🙏🏾

This is just such a weird idea in the first place. Who asked for a knock-off Hamilton? Exactly no one that matters. That's who.

I think the kid who plays Aaron Burr can kinda sing. He sounded good on Wait For It. Someone please save him from wasting his talents in this hateful church!

when the added pastor scene started playing my cat freaked out and started yelling and if that doesn't describe this production i don't know what does

i love that the closed captions for the clip breakdown intro reads as 'fluctuating tempo electronic music'. it makes me think of a DJ with mood swings.

Hamilton was literally my favorite musical. When I saw it the morning of when it was added to Disney Plus I finally understood why people enjoyed it so much. I watched this Scamilton production out of curiosity and got it was just bad. These poor kids clearly had no singing coach and the changes made to the musical was really unbearable. I was cringing the whole time watching it. But that damn Homophobic sermon at the end of the musical really pissed me off. I’m a closet pan romantic 20 year old woman who has already dealt with homophobia within the church I used to attend, I was told it was wrong to be Gay, Lesbian, Transgender etc. I was told people who are in the LGBTQ+ community were sinners and that they deserved to burn in hell. So you can imagine why I haven’t come out as PanRomantic yet. I’m honestly terrified to come out to my family. I’ve wanted to attend my local Pride parades but I never did due to that fear of being shunned by my family. Being apart of the Hamilton fandom has helped me through some of that fear and the people I’ve met through our shared love of this musical are wonderful and they accept me for who I am. I honestly home that this church gets into some trouble for lying about having the rights to preform Hamilton let alone change the lyrics and add and change scenes to fit their narrative.

Went ahead with the thumb-up, partly because you’re an amazing content creator, but mostly because I’m deeply curious as to how many unauthorized rip-offs of hit musicals are out there for you to breakdown

The fact that the church thought they could convert Hamilton fans to being religious and no longer being gay is really funny to me

It feels like Veggietales did successful but vague parodies of pop culture and Christian media looked at it and went “damn now I gotta get me some of that”. That Jenny Nicholson video really cemented that for me. I have a few personal anecdotes about this. If you ever listen to the music on the modern Christian pop radio stations, the styles are always a few years behind secular pop music. I went to a church camp and we had a star wars night. The thing is a lot of these people are still fans of other media, especially teens who are really deep in the Jesus juice. And they want to be creative but end up merging their two interests into a cheesy Frankenstein’s monster. It’s kind of like fan fiction in a way but with religion. Doesn’t make it good at all but yeah.

"It's a zoom interview this time" gave me the ugliest laugh

I can say as someone who grew up in mega churches that a good portion of that church budget is going to that drama department as the plays/musicals bring in heavy revenue

Two videos in a row?? Thank you 💗

Why yes, I have watched Jenny Nicholson's vid on the easter musicals many times. I did think of that when I started watching the video. If this is a new commentary trend, I'm in. I generally enjoy the youness of the video as much as I do the topic, so most everything works regardless.

As a Bisexual Christian Catholic, this gave me so much embarrassment 😭 This is why we get called clowns by Atheists from time to time and I just wanna barf- Those "actors" they chose sound worse than all the choirs I heard from different churches (said choir singers are actually really good). Do they not realize they based their "play" off of a musical about the life of a Founding Father who WAS GAY for John Laurence?? (Is that how you spell his name I can't remember it's been so long 😭) Growing up with religious people and see how they misinterpret the Bible is baffling. I continue to spread Christianity without forcing it down on people's throats, and slay the day because ahm gay. Now if you excuse me I'm gonna rewatch Hamilton ✌️

the compare/contrast at 9:50 with the table hitting and beat boxing was so stark. I don't love the original Hamilton (I love more avenue Q style musicals) but I still love the musicality, rhythm and power behind the voices and movements in the og musical. To see a bunch of hesitant performers attempting it with zero permission while changing it to make it more """"holy""""" is very cringey.

I’ve been hoping you’d cover this! Thank you!

Your transitions to ad reads are so smooth lol

My best friend was Christine in a Jesus "enhanced" version of "Phantom of the Opera" 😂😂😂😂 thats kind of what this reminded me of

Your roasts are so fast and frequent that I don’t have time to stop laughing from the previous one before I’m laughing from the next

As a Christian, I must say, saying something like: ‘You’re being punished for sining, that’s why your son died’ Is one of the most unchristian thing I have ever heard. At least, from the view of Christianity I’ve been raised in, this isn’t a normal thing to say at all.

The crazy thing is that in their church, unmarried women and men can’t touch so the people playing Hamilton and Eliza are married. But the girl who plays Eliza also plays the Reynolds’s woman. It’s insane

I would love to watch the whole church rip-off version. Loving that they think that they can just replace words and lines in the painstakingly written and well thought out songs of Hamilton and nobody would have a problem with it. Also how did they get around the whole affair thing? Because that seems like it would be a huge issue for a church to show

4:11 that whole bit is ICONIC lol “the way I’m about to correct you is the closest thing to a hate crime that my people are capable of committing against you,” just, the absolute best. Followed closely by “go eat someone’s pussy about it” lmao. This video had such good humor it made my day. Nick might be the only KZreadr I would rip myself from my depression hidey-hole to go see live (if one ever happened/once the plague is over) bc his humor is so freakin smart and on point. Also, that church’s rendition of this DESERVES to be called a play. That back to back comparison of the orphanage song was ROUGH. So, so …flat. There’s not much musicality goin on.

This is the best weekend ever!!! Double upload?? We’re not worthy😭😭

Thanks for crediting Hemant over at The Friendly Atheist - he's a fantastic source for dirt on all the latest religious shenanigans.