Our HR head at an old job once complained that several of us would go out and eat lunch together every day. We just laughed and ignored her.

@kenq7948

3 ай бұрын

Probably wanted to get invited.

@naomiemoore5725

3 ай бұрын

I had that too. Ridiculous.

@fdm2155

3 ай бұрын

Why? Unless people were overstaying or otherwise creating a problem... who cares who you go to lunch with? Some of these 'professionals' really are stunted. Acting like middle school children.

@WeartheGoodSocks

3 ай бұрын

They staggered our lunch breaks on the schedule so that we couldn't go together.

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

@@WeartheGoodSocks More petty overkill. They don't seem to understand that happy staff are productive. Pissed off staff will fo as little as possible. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I do not understand the management mentality. And then wonder about turnover and poor performance. I said something at a useless meeting. And I received deer in the headlights. I got up and left. And management was shocked that I could do such a thing. Really? Told them I don't have time to waste. We had to bill for every minute of the day. I did end up leaving and did not attend any more useless meetings.

"you knew i didn't like him and yet you still went to see him" what the HECK IS THIS HIGH SCHOOL?????

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

Yup. People are petty.

@Theodinson98

Күн бұрын

Honestly, it sounds like they're trying to treat her like they're in a relationship or something. Lol

Tell him to put it in writing, hand it to a lawyer. 😜

@naomiemoore5725

3 ай бұрын

This happened to me too. Guess what? I worked at a law firm. Doctors and attorneys are the worst offenders.

@heyitsjeffagain

3 ай бұрын

@@naomiemoore5725- go to work for a ministry. Apparently, abuse can be okay if “we're doing this for God.” (To be clear, I don’t think the abusive people I’ve worked for in ministry represent God. In fact, there was very little Christlike about them. They just hide behind the religion as a shield for their desire for power.)

@naomiemoore5725

3 ай бұрын

@@heyitsjeffagain Now I am semi- retired and now work at a dog daycare and boarding facility. Still have PTSD from that job.

@naomiemoore5725

3 ай бұрын

​@@heyitsjeffagainAnd religion is a business just like anyplace else. And it is spotty at best. There are some genuine really honest establishments (church, synagogue, temple or similar house of worship), that are altruistic. But it is like playing "needle in a haystack." Sometimes I visit a house of worship. Thinking I could find a place that was OK. One place it was a potluck after service, yes I made several dishes to contribute, and had a little chat, with the Pastor and he inquired why I do not attend more often and join. Just at that very moment a few women were in a scuffle about the food and gossiping like high school girls. And I said, look at those women. I graduated from high school over 50 years ago. I don't play favorites and want cliques at a place of worship. He didn't say a word, his face said it all. Think about that for a hot minute.

@ctjmaughs

3 ай бұрын

What shit is this? You can associate with whoever you want. Unless they are a criminal depending on industry.

He really thought he could stop his best friend of 25 years from seeing him?? hahaha

Why is the manager perving on its workers social media in the first place? Completely mental behavior.

@davinasquirrel7672

3 ай бұрын

Indeed, stalker creepy stuff

@bcwe1659

2 ай бұрын

Lots of business do it. There is a clause in my current jobs policy’s that states we can get fired if we aren’t careful about what we post on social media.

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

​@@bcwe1659You are absolutely correct. And they also run your credit and do background checks. All legal. Checking social media is not being invasive. They don't want to hire people that will give the company a bad name or handles themselves inappropriately. It is a big deal. I hire at the job I have now and perform background checks. Its amazing what comes back in these reports. I know more about the applicants than the applicants themselves. When I applied for a job before the one I have now, they ran everything. Squeaky clean. I am boring and lead a boring life, it suits me. They couldn't find me on any social media other than Pinterest and You Tube. And nothing there that is even noteworthy.

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

Completely legal. They also do background checks and credit checks. Not invasive, they don't want to hire someone that doesn't handle themselves appropriately and tarnish the business reputation.

@MrNaesme

Ай бұрын

​@@naomiemoore5725The only way you can tarnish your business reputation is if you include the business in your personal social media posts. If I decided to poledance in a speedo and post it on Instagram, that's entirely my business. My company has no say in it unless I've gone and written the company name across my ass or something. So long as I'm not advertising my business, I can post whatever the hell I want on social media. Now, if you deal with company secrets, then watching your social media makes sense to ensure you aren't sneaking data to the public or otherwise doing things that are abnormal or suspicious. If all of a sudden you, an $80k worker, start positing pictures of lavish vacations and sports cars, that might suggest you've come across money in an unsavory method.

HR is not their to protect the employee, they are their to protect the company

"can I get that in writing please"

These managers need to understand that time outside of work has nothing to do with them. You can control time you dont pay for. Ridiculous.

Im friends with someone who works at another shop in the same line of retail. My boss found out and went mental at me. He was scared that i was sharing inside information about the business yet wanted me to find out all about theirs!!!

"Okay .... please give this to me in writing. "

While I am on the clock; sure, you don't want me socialising with my out of work friends, okay bit sucky but okay, I'm being paid to do X not talk to my mates. Off the clock: You have no control over my life, who I associate with or where I go with whom. I'm not in the armed forces, I'm not in the police, you have no right to control my life outside of my contracted hours.

@blindbrad4719

2 ай бұрын

Seems to be taken the American mentality, your salaried so you work whenever I need you to… therefore I can tell you what to do 🤦

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

​@@blindbrad4719 Please explain "American Mentality?" That doesn't even come into play here.

@blindbrad4719

2 ай бұрын

@@naomiemoore5725 that would be the mentality that because someone is salaried, bosses can call on them at any point and employees are expected to go over and beyond when it comes to finishing things, like staying long after you're supposed to go home. People working 60 to 70 hour work weeks because they are pressured into doing it.

He sounds like a high school girl. "You can't be friends with them cause we don't like them"

@ivanlimzg

3 ай бұрын

He got butthurt by someone who told him "I don't friend you"😂

@j.y.1515

2 ай бұрын

High school? You surely mean primary school.

1. “OK Bossman, give me the raise!” 2. Use your new raise to take your friends out

HR failed three times?! Time for legal action.

Not only is it Illegal and bad practise but is sooooo petty lol

Get away from there girl ! That guy sounds like he should be in jail for that sort of behaviour.

@fdm2155

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I hope she's putting her resume out there. MD is clearly a knucklehead.

We got told our local food place over road was out of bounds as theu served alcohol, like we were inxapabe of ordering tea and coffee with our meals Got hauled over the coals for 'disobeying' policy . I was on holiday and the people i was eating with didn't work there either 😬😜

This boss sounds like a jealous ex.

This is just pathetic, sounds like the entire management team is utterly incompetent!

@naomiemoore5725

3 ай бұрын

They typically are in my experience. Out of touch with reality.

This reminds me of a situation I had at an old employer. I was friends with the CEO’s admin but the CEO hated her and finally had the HR director fire the admin. They hired a replacement and the CEO made me buy “welcome flowers” for the new admin. I was happy to do it although it was supposed to be a message (warning) to me. Then the CEO had 4 different HR and other executives warn me that I’d better be helpful to the new lady. I finally blew up when my boss started telling me the same thing. I told him I was a professional and just because I was friends with the previous person that would in no way affect how I treated the new person. I asked him, “with what you know about me, what has ever led you to believe I’d be an asshole to the new person?” I knew he had reluctantly talked to me and was forced to do so. Come to find out, the is new person they hired to “fix” everything was as dumb as a rock and couldn’t even schedule appointments or send emails. She was a dumpster fire but the CEO kept her to save her own face. The new admin also threw all of the other of us exec admins under the bus at different times so everyone hated her. An HR person told me not to associate with her but I responded that they had no say in what I did on my own time or who I spent time with as long as I remained ethical about company information. TBH we never wanted to talk about company things anyway. I’m still friends with her to this day.

Talk about good managers. Most I've had are so great. I ama collefge/university lecturer. On Thursday my afternoon class up. They said "It's nice outside" So I said get a laptop and lwet's go outside with laptop and do our work there. I also said I'll go to the supermarket and get some Cornettos. Went to rrom next door where my boss lives. Told her what I was doing with the class. She said "Brilliant idea" Later she refunded my receipt. Class had a great day. Did lots of work. Then trhanked me. I said no problem, I just got refunded. They all laughed. BTW I do this at every college// university I work at. I don't always get refunded. But it's ten minutes pay.

"He's just a child, throwing his toys out of the pram" - nailed it. 😆

My last full-time workplace was similarly very sour apples about ex-employees who (rightfully) left for better opportunities and didn't sugarcoat the fact that their new positions were a step up. Because it's a bad reflection of the company to lose good employees, and rather than sit with the self-awareness and improve, the easier option is to villify those who left and badmouth them. It's quite sad when you think about it.

What this boils down to is that companies expect you to be loyal to them & their CEOS whilst at the same time will treat their staff badly & expect staff to stay!

So I have a 30 minute lunch break every day and I use that to eat and then Let my dog out cos that’s my break and I should be allowed to do that etc , my work started moaning saying I couldn’t do it anymore ….. cos that break I should only be having lunch and not leaving (I live round the corner from my work ) so I literally go let the dog out and come back , eat then get back To work …… …. But it’s my break ….. do they have the rights to moan about what i use it for ?

@naomiemoore5725

3 ай бұрын

Get it in writing, hope this is in an email or equivalent. Visit your Labor Board and find an employment attorney. ASAP.

@davinasquirrel7672

3 ай бұрын

No, they have no authority to tell you what you can or cannot do. The only exception would be some high security environment and for whatever reason, not allowed to leave the premises, but that would have been stated at employment or in the contract. Not brought up at a later date.

@user-bl9hq2gf6i

2 ай бұрын

contact your union rep. they cant tell you what to do in your unpaid break

@1977vision

2 ай бұрын

Does anybody smoke there? Are they leaving the premises to smoke? Is that different to your departure? It’s nonsense, where you go in non paid periods is entirely your choice.

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-bl9hq2gf6i She has not stated that she has a union job. That is a completely different situation. Union jobs have contracts. She probably has an "at will" type of employment.

best line for HR "I'll just contact my Union and we'll set that up. 20mins later HR will probably say don't worry about it.

@TheMusicalElitist

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 Get over yourself. Unions and their reps are some of the most idiotic cretins ever.

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

But not every job has a union job.

HR protecting employees is an unintended consequence of keeping employers and management from taking actions that are prohibited not because they are plain wrong but may expose the business to cost legal proceedings and compensation payouts. .

I no longer live in the UK but this is something that used to really piss me off about the UK working cuilture, where managers can prevent pay rises and promotions based upon nothing but if they like you or the people you hang around with.

@DMG380

3 ай бұрын

Nobody is entitled to a promotion or a pay rise unless it's stated in the contract. However, this is a good way to lose employees or cause the quality of their work to suffer. If they are not being appreciated for the work they do, why bother working hard? They won't get a promotion anyway.

@nicolad8822

3 ай бұрын

Never ever seen that.

@ostlandr

2 ай бұрын

That's global working culture. "It's not what you know, but who you know." The brown-nosers and bootlickers get the promotions and raises.

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

It happens everywhere. Last corporate job they discouraged the staff from giving the support staff glowing reviews as then they would eventually have to give them a raise. They were specifically told to write an "average or less" review to keep them in their place.

Just came across this channel today. It has completely opened my eyes to how management CAN but shouldn't treat their employees. Unbelievable behaviour. In my previous job contacting you outside work hours meant you were entitled to a 4 hour recall to duty. Only happened to me once in 30 years and the supervisor who did it was drawn over the coals about it. To make matters worse (for them) it was on a day off, so I got double time!

I’d love to call into this show- my ex boss’s husband got Covid and she was a store manager and she still came to work while he was stuck in hospital for 2 weeks! And she was also a very close friend before all this so I was actually at her house the night before her husband wound up in the hospital and they were making out and all over each other and she runs one of the biggest retail stores in our area

Thanks for bringing these things to light.

It’s like telling 4year old me who I Can Play with on the playground!!!!

How this man thinks he has that kind of power over people

You had one job HR...

How old was this manager? It sounds like he was a 4 year old!

@ostlandr

2 ай бұрын

Our daughter had her last toddler tantrum before she turned four. And at age eight could probably have done a better job managing a company than this idiot.

I once had a manager tell me i couldnt be friends with a coworker outside of work. I flat out told the manager that who i am friends with is none of their business and they have no say over it, and if they had a problem with it we could call the union rep and see what they had to say. Since then that manager is no longer at that store and i have married that friend 😂

why is she still there? time to find a new job

"3 people have already handed in notices in that team" that's not a surprise at all. they were all told to not expect any sort of raze or promotions in this company over something overwhelmingly petty. I would be brushing up my resume too

She was trying to speak, and on at least two occasions, you spoke over her.

Hey, there you are! I've Ben Askins about you.

In the USA in an at-will employment state, they would have no recourse except to quit.

so what does he think he wants, a list of everyone you ever, see so he can decide if you are allowed to associate.... what an ego-ass, time to find another job, this is dead end!

This is gold😂

Happy Friday people 🥳

The flip side that I experienced from management and HR waiving off bad behaviour as “that’s just the way that he is”, or “some people just don’t take responsibility for their actions” is to come down hard on anything imaginably actionable on your own performance with,” you need to take ownership of (thing outside of your control)”, or “you need to show responsibility for this thing that we’re accusing you of ( without any form of investigation).”

Worth going to an employment tribunal?

NAME & SHAME!!!!

I really hope this ladies boss doesn't hear this.

@tiermacgirl

3 ай бұрын

I hope the bosses who behave like this DO HEAR THE MESSAGE that their stupid petty illegal attitudes suck and are super unpopular

It’s not easy as a Manager or Team-Lead to say “no” to a Director or to shield your team from bad Directorship, However, that is a very important part of your job. To protect your team and thus the company. There is an old saying in German that “shit always runs from top to bottom.” If you cannot or will not deal with that shit before it reaches your team, you are in the wrong position. You are a manager, not a slave driver’s Forman cracking the whip.

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

And I did everything, including breaking company policy in writing to keep those under my supervision safe from the claws of HR. Four words. Labor Board and Employment attorney.

@rigsbyrigged1831

2 ай бұрын

@@naomiemoore5725 If you need to fight HR, you cannot win. HR needs to be on your side. My Team is not under my supervision, it is under my coordination. I supervise my child, I coordinate our team.

HR is protecting this guy, not the staff. RUN.

Our boss sent out an email stating we were not to associate with an ex-employee, after several of us pushed back on this and said you don’t control my private life it was rolled back 5o you should not discuss business matters with him, everybody still rolled their eyes but at least that order made commercial sense,

This is school child playground behaviour "if you are his/her friend you cant be mine"

No job pays enough to tell you who you can or cannot be friends with

LOL, I have to skip the lead-in, so I don't get any spoilers!

I was once asked by my team leader at a quarterly review to befriend an older coworker and socialise with her on my own time as she felt left out. Didn’t happen.

@naomiemoore5725

2 ай бұрын

Good for you!

I was offered a position as Deputy Manager at a Care Home. All the Carers were women. During my first induction day, I had a cup of tea with the team and we chatted happily about Care Work in general, and they opened up about some problems they were having. The male Manager hauled me off to his office and berated me: " You can't be friendly with THESE WOMEN, or they will walk all over you " I left.

Where do you find all these dreadful bosses?

So whats the point in saying someones an idiot if there is zero you can do about it. If you cant do anything legally, he can be an idiot. New job.

Didn't happen to me .... but an employee is another work group. Her supervisor did not like the person she was dating and had the audacity to "counsel" her on who she kept company with outside of the office. She said nothing to her supervisor, but during her lunch hour went straight to HR and reported her supervisor's comments. The topic never came up again, not about her choice of companions, and the supervisor was suddenly very careful to keep her comments/conversations with her and the other employees in the office strictly about work.

I thought the US was bad.

First, block that managing director from all social media of the employees. Clearly, he's a stalker. Secondly, what employees do in their off-work time is nobody's business but their own. If they all quit due to unprofessional practices by the managing director, where will that company be in 6 months? Answer: Defunct. All due to one man's childish pettiness.

If there are 4-5 folks who all got this message, document it, take it to HR, and prepare to hire an employment rights / labor lawyer. ESPECIALLY THE DATA BREACH regarding your personal phone number!!!

US is sure fair and not dystopian

Veega, I hope you have got a good explanation when you come into work on Monday. 😠

@blindbrad4719

2 ай бұрын

LOL no I'm not! But it made you think a moment didn't it 😂

Next time please do add the link to the youtube video

He thinks hes Adolf Hitler tbh

@ostlandr

2 ай бұрын

No, Moustache Guy would have just had the tech guy (ended) or sent to the camps. FYI a lot of ethnic Germans were sent to the camps for not toeing the line.

He sounds like a Donald Trump

@Kanyon85

3 ай бұрын

This manager, trust me is a very bad guy, just horrible. Very disloyal lemme tell you. - DJT probably.

@billkaldem5099

3 ай бұрын

Check with trumps employees before making assumptions.

@user-bl9hq2gf6i

2 ай бұрын

:D :D true and alsofunny

@ostlandr

2 ай бұрын

Nah, even His Imperial Orangeness isn't that stupid.

@kyle9401

2 ай бұрын

​@@billkaldem5099the ones he pays or the ones he doesn't?