What’s your favorite custom action and why?

@stumpyhigginbottom3466

Жыл бұрын

Not a lot of experience with higher end actions but of the ones I have, the Defiance Machine is so smooth and effortless that it's a real joy to shoot. Do you have any experience with Defiance actions to compare them, particularly the feel of the action cycle? That Terminus certainly looks smooth as well.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@stumpyhigginbottom3466 hi. I have a defiance. It’s excellent as well.

@tallyman15

Жыл бұрын

ARC Nucleus. Great design, tight tolerance.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@tallyman15 sweet. I haven’t tried that one. Saw it at Shotshow the year they dropped. Felt good.

@variableknife4702

Жыл бұрын

I picked up an American Rifle Company Archimedes a while back for a project. I'm really liking it. Even with my NF ATACR and their big bolt knob there's plenty of clearance. Really like the bolt face, not having the extractor in the brass during rotation, manually-controlled ejection... list goes on. Sits in an AICS AW with a 7RM bbl.

Just ordered one the other day, seriously can’t wait

I really appreciate your videos. You do great things for the PRS sport and community with your content. Keep up the great work!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying that!

I bought 3 Stiller " drop ports "... I'm a lefty and it sped my time up just that couple of hundreths... they are slick, have a couple of Farley's, Panda's, etc.. But a" Zeus" has a spot soon... Appreciate it!

I'm planning a build using the Terminus Zeus action. This video just cemented my decision. Thanks!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

You won’t regret it. Thanks for watching.

Excellent indepth review of these actions. The threaded trigger pins are just awesome. The features of this action are priced well. I've been recommending the Zermatt actions due to the price point and its control round feed and ejection. They are also one of the few that offer the PPC bolt face. Currently developing a 22 ARC. Velocity numbers are impressive with a 85.5 Berger reaching 3050 fps. It outperforms the 6mm Creedmoor with 105gr Bergers at 2950 fps currently with recoil similar to 223

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Nice. Thanks for watching sir.

@matthewrezuke8130

Жыл бұрын

Well if Kenny likes them, I’ll like them!

@DanielReyes-hz1qk

4 ай бұрын

Aside from Defiance who else offers the PPC bolt face? I've got a Ruckus with both 308 and PPC faced bolts and am interested in another action I can do the same with

Appreciate the video and all the information I do love a bolt action that's the only way to go thanks a lot appreciate it and be safe

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

My only precision built rifle is with a Zermatt TL3 in 6mm ARC. That action was recommended by the builder. I like that the bolt face head can be changed for different calibers instead on having several different bolts.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Cool. Those are good actions too. Nice features.

Good video, thanks for sharing.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

10 ай бұрын

You bet

Could have done a couple custom’s by now but I’m still pretty satisfied with what I’ve learned on what I have had. It’s about time though so maybe Santa will be good to me

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

My favorite is the one and only I have. 😄 It's a Stiller, it's butter smooth and with a great barrel and my hand loads it shoots in the .1's at 100.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Those are really nice actions too.

Holy crap! You were at Scrivner! I live very close to it. A little too “public” for me most days. Gotta watch your six there.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

👍 I only stay if I’m the only one there. This time I waited in the parking lot almost an hour for people to leave. LOL

Old loose and worn out type 56 black market Ak's are about the only riffles available in the country I live in. I own nothing and just watch vids like this for my shooting adventures.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I used to shoot at this range as well. Have a few videos on our channel (Chuckin) from here.

Im sold , i almost bought one a few nights ago but I didnt know about the quick change barrel thing. Looks good to me

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

I think you will love it!

Great Rig and by the way Fiocchi ammo makes quality ammo their 223 v-max is shooting sub MOA their prices reflect it as well I just hope they don’t start charging Black Hills ammo prices

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Cool. Agree on the ammo.

Great Video Thanks 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

7 ай бұрын

you bet. thanks for watching.

Just shot my Zeus for the first time today. It’s great. Btw. I have a KRG C4 chassis. Yea can adjust the mag height. Fed GT perfectly through MDT AICS, acccurate, AI, and AW mags. Like George has said. It’s not the GT. It’s the mag height.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Cool!

Question: when you are feeding the rounds and manipulating the bolt, is the "3rd lug" at the 12 or 6 o'clock position? I want to use AW style mags in my next build and am considering this action vs the GAP Tempest (lug at 6 position when feeding a round). I dont have my AI AT anymore so I cant check but correct me if wrong: I believe the AI's have the "3rd lug" at the 6 o'clock position. Thank you for your video's and feedback.

I got a Zeus . I like 3 lug design, quick change barrel , molded in picatinny rail, 60 deg. throw ! Yessss it as badassstheycome . I have 2 Bartlin 5R barrels , 6.5cm an 243 . Spiral fluted 22"ers... They shoot bugholes .... Always wanted custom action , and now i no why ! I'm thinking of getting another bolt for 223... another barrel, what the heck .... 3 rifles one action .

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

9 ай бұрын

haha glad to see i'm not the only one with this "problem"!

Dang nice rig !!....why was there an edit at around 3:52 - was that a failure to feed?....btw - Thanks fer sharing !!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

No failures. I often cut things if I say something dumb or if there’s a long pause between shots. I hate wasting people’s time so I cut those out.

Threaded trigger pins is what I need

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

It’s pretty nice. Definitely makes things easier.

Very usefull

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

11 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

A satisfied Terminus Zeus customer here too!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

6 ай бұрын

Nice! 👍

Tell us about that TMB on the end of the first barrel? Video coming?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Video already done a couple years ago. Scroll through vids here, should be able to find it.

What the heck..that’s cool…how secure is the barrel without torquing? I’m new to rifle built so I’m intrigued.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Very secure. Accuracy International rifles are similar. Desert Tech rifles are similar. It works. 👍

AUD$2,800 They would want to be bloody good. I bought and load developed a Savage FT/R for less than that and it shot 1/4MOA all day.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Shoot and have fun. That’s the goal. Ultimately doesn’t matter how you get there or what you use.

I kinda regret not getting the QC, no clue what I was thinking about at the time

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

I'm building an AR-10 platform so that I could have barrel interchangeable recievers .

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

sounds like a fun project

Proof that the American manufacturing process is alive and well. Expensive? Yeah it is. Especially theses days! Yet I've assembled quite the paper puncher in a 6mm heavy barrel short actioned format. Do I use it for general work? GOD NO! Is it quite fun? HELL YES!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Where do you get your barrels from?

You talk about Eric Cortina making you go broke with his toys, but I noticed the Area 419 press in the back ground? Rock Chucker not good enough? I have been reloading for60 years. in 2002 I set the 1K IBS 1,000 yard five shot light gun group at Hawk's Ridge NC with a rifle I smithed myself. I still use my old Rock Chucker for full length sizing and of course I build my own Wilson hand seating dies with my chamber reamer. If a case is being pushed up into a Custom Widden die, what difference does it make if its being pushed by RCBS or Area 419?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

I never said it would make me go broke. I said it would make “you” go broke…meaning other people.

@richarddesimone4451

Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork True! Its rough, financially, trying to keep up with the cream of the crop! Fortunately, I am a pretty good innovator and manage to still be competitive.! :)

Can you tell us your barrel contours for the 308 and 223 barrels used in the video?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

No. Sorry. I simply don’t know. M24 or Palma maybe? Something heavy. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Why does everyone talk about tight tolerances but they never say what they sre?

Have you tested to see if those zero shifts are repeatable? Curious if it would be possible to do that barrel swap, dial to a previously tested zero shift and have it actually work. Obvious disclaimer on verifying zero especially before hunting, etc.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

I have tested it between a 6GT and a 6CM and it returned very close, like a tenth off or something stupid small. After this video I can't remember if I tested it or not. A video probably needs to be made about that I suppose.

@markmooring1632

Жыл бұрын

That would make a great video. Doubly so if you did multiple caliber swaps multiple times (i.e. 6gt, 6cm, 223, 308, repeat on the same target 3-4 times). Thank you!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@markmooring1632 I'll see what I can do.

The wait for mine is excruciating. Almost four months so far. The delays around firing pins makes me concerned.

@joshuagibson2520

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. And they aren't even hard to make or require much material.

All that fancy custom gear and a Bushnell scope?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

...a $1600 bushnell scope with Japanese glass. It's pretty decent in my opinion. Though I will say, they are discontinued now. Not sure what that's about.

If I go with single caliber 300 win mag standard cartridge rifle & barrel, would you still recommend the Zeus action or Kratos by Terminus?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Ай бұрын

go big or go home. lol. kidding, it kinda depends on your intended purpose. Not saying this is you specifically, but most guys who say they need a 300winmag don't need one. If it's competition, steel targets, or hunting most north american game, then there's a cartridge based off the short action Zeus that can easily handle all those jobs. Tell me more about what you're wanting to do with your build and I can maybe be of more help.

Just had one misfire (light primer strike) and cost me a 300"+ Bull Elk... other than that it was great...

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Dang. Bummer. How close was the elk that you couldn’t get another shot off? Or what’s the rest of the story?

@RevHiker

Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork he was at 609yards, and went over a hill right after and we never saw him again. Tag soup

@Mike-xi4zt

5 ай бұрын

​@@RevHikerdid the barrel set screws come loose? What is a good recipe for tag soup?

Can someone tell me what is the technical difference between the Zeus and the Curtis Valor? They look nearly the same.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Long story short: threaded trigger pins, size of the roller in the bolt, and size of the bolt itself. You get a field serviceable action, an easy to open 60 degree throw, and no more feeding issues from 6BR variants.

I know this video is about the action but what is your opinion on those Bushnell elite tactical scopes?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

The glass is a little “grey” in terms of color, but it’s clear, tracks well, and has had no issues for me.

@TheLanden11

Жыл бұрын

Ok thanks! Joel

if i had to do it over again, this is the route I would have gone

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Future purchase 😉

@tommydee1437

Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork it could happen. I'm on bug holes notify list when they get them.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@tommydee1437 nice

How does the lift feel compared to a defiance? Weight wise

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

The terminus is slightly heavier. It’s 60 degree throw while defiance is 90. You can feel the difference but it’s not much. Terminus is still very smooth.

So you can swap out any short action calibers only?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

As long as terminus offers a bolt for it. (I think)

Have you used the steel prefit from proof for the qc zuse?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Not yet, but I have one coming any day now.

@bigbenff1

Жыл бұрын

I have…and mine worked out great

@borkwoof696

Жыл бұрын

What’s a "zuse"?

I didn't know everyone in the prs was going to 60 degree. I'm pretty sure everyone in the prs is shooting or switching to a impact action

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t say “everyone.” I do agree that Impacts are very popular. They are great actions too. I should also point out I guess that many top pros in PRS are using impacts, but that is such a small sample size of the larger group of people that compete or just shoot custom rifles.

@mtruong713

Жыл бұрын

Impact and Defiance are the 2 most prominent actions in PRS, both being 90 degree thorws. Curtis is 3rd and Lone Peak 4th (which is also 90 degree). 60 degree throws are not appreciably faster, and confers no advantage, just a preference.

@twofast1234

Жыл бұрын

@@mtruong713 not much faster, but you do get heavier bolt lift 😄

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@mtruong713 I agree, just a preference. 60 was faster for me personally, and one of the main reasons I switched. Not to mention 90 degree throw hitting my optic. I still have a defiance. excellent action. Honestly we could probably throw out the PRS as a metric at all...the couple thousand PRS competitors (are there even that many?) represent such a small demographic compared to the larger sportsman and hunting industry who are using custom actions.

@btm6930

Жыл бұрын

I was just giving you a hard time PRN. Thanks for covering the long range stuff and the prs.

Which site is the best place to buy Zeus action?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

That I do not know. Sorry.

@twofast1234

Жыл бұрын

Altus. That's where I got mine from.

@mrjeffjob

7 ай бұрын

The one that has one. 😎

Is that shift repeatable?

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure from all the different calibers. I've only tested this with 308, 223, and 6cm. All of those required minimal adjustments for me.

Bottom line for a precision bolt action is... is it true? If the lugs and bolt face aren't true then it's no better than any run of the mill factory bolt action rifle. I'm not interested in changing barrels and triggers at the range, I want a precision action that is true to the bore so that when mated up with a precision match barrel, I get consistent tack driving accuracy.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

8 ай бұрын

You’re not wrong, but then most if not all custom actions are made to very true/tight tolerances these days. Used to be you had to get a gunsmith to true up an action. Not any more if you’re buying a quality custom.

@CplSkiUSMC

8 ай бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I'm sure you're correct, I'd just like to see a smith do some videos with some of the precision actions available on the market and chuck them up to see if they really are true or so close to true that it doesn't really matter. I guess my issue is that these actions are quite expensive and I'd like to know that I'd get what I'm paying for. Even with CNC machining, mass production has a habit of getting a bit sloppy... nature of the beast. Machine bearing surfaces become worn, cutting bits get a little dull, tool heads get a few too many miles, things happen that turn tolerances from .0001 to .001 to .0015 to .002 and so on. It would be nice to know which companies are offering .0001 vs which are offering .001 or more tolerances. I'm probably asking for a bit too much but hey, a guy can dream right?

As an engineer, I feel that every set screw is a design flaw.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

I hear what you’re saying, but then we have to torque the barrels on. Defeats the purpose of being “quick change.”

@G5Hohn

Жыл бұрын

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork They could mount the barrel with something like a die lock ring at the front of the action. Put the threads deeper in the action, leave 1/2" at the front as a split locking function mimicking the die lock ring (only it's permanently part of the action). Only catch is every barrel profile would need that 1/2" section to be the same OD. Not that big a deal.

@mrjeffjob

7 ай бұрын

West Texas Ordinance sells one called the switch lug. T 25 screw at the top you tighten to 30 in- pounds. I have one on my Curtis Axiom.

What’s the price $

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

5 ай бұрын

These typcially go for around $1400.00 on the Terminus website

Buyer beware: axil is gas station counter level quality.

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

Жыл бұрын

Hmm mine have been excellent. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Reload4Hobby

Жыл бұрын

Ya my cheap walkers kill them man

At the price those actions sell for the fact that you have to purchase a separate trigger should be criminal. That is like purchasing a new car or truck at $80K and you arrive and have to bring your own tires and rims that you purchased separately before you can drive your car or truck off the lot. This is more people with more money than brains! At the insane price they charge for the privilage of ownership they should include a trigger. What is next are they going to make you purchase a bolt separately!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

8 ай бұрын

I already responded to your other message, which you deleted, but I'll humor you on this one too. These are custom actions for discerning shooters who want the best, and plan on switching barrels/calibers regularly. These buyers don't want the action company providing a trigger because what if it's not the custom trigger they were planning on purchasing. These people enjoy the build process and most of them want the best available parts. How much something costs is not the priority. This may not make sense to you or given your budget, but that doesn't mean you're justified in calling people stupid and/or insane for their choices.

@mrjeffjob

7 ай бұрын

What a maroon. 😅. When I build rifles I want to choose. Every. Single. Component. You look at a gun like a tool then a $450 Ruger American makes sense. If you look at a gun like it’s a family member you have different priorities and money isn’t one of them.

How is it better than a trued factory action. Be specific! Can you give us measurements that are scientific and repeatable? "This action is more better because it cost more and feels slick!" is not the type of marketing hype I am looking for. How is it better? How can I know for sure if I buy one it is better? What can I or my gunsmith measure to be sure I am getting "god level" precision in machining and materials? I want something I can hold the manufacture too in a court of law anything less is bullshit marketing hype on the level of propaganda! What guarantee will the manufacture give me. If they demand I use a particular gunsmith and barrel to meet said claims name that gunsmith and barrel maker I must use here and now or admit your con men! I doubt you will do it because everyone in this industry is a coward! Prove me wrong! I am one of the few honest men left in this world!

@PrecisionRifleNetwork

9 ай бұрын

For you, it’s not worth the money. You should stick with a factory trued action.