but he can also flip the disarm switch in midair and the quad will disarm the second he goes for a dive and lowers the throttle under -95 haha, so a sequence on top of that would be the best, that you can only disarm when throttle is low at first and then the switch is flipped

@Romasu_

2 жыл бұрын

If you're disarming midair. Than that's your own fault. Set a different switch that you won't bump...

@ArcticriderFPV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Romasu_ I think you missed the entire point of why he wanted a switch set up like this..

@4xStyle

2 жыл бұрын

@@Romasu_ of course, but thats what the video is about

@Erkle64

2 жыл бұрын

I would just go with using both the left and right lower switches. That way it's easy to do an emergency disarm but harder to do an accidental disarm.

@md.m.8372

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, if you set it up based on throttle, accidentally disarm via 2 pos switch the quad will keep flying until you drop the throttle under 95 🥲 The only time I ever deem having a multipart disarm/arm procedure is when I'm flying any of my heavy lift capable shit & I have it set to arm based on a 3 pos switch being all the way down and then a 2 pos flipped. I've only accidentally disarmed twice 🤷‍♂️ just finished a build and set the aux the channels wrong once & the other time I was super stoned and can't really give a logical explanation 🤣

Bardwell's channel is one of the very few gems in the KZread FPV space. Another very useful video.

If you are concerned about accidently disarming, then you need to move your arm switch. Its why I don't use shoulder or corner switches because that is where my fingers rest on the radio. I use the switches above my index fingers, which are obviously on my sticks if I am flying. Have to take my finger off the throttle to disarm.

I have the arm switch setup to only engage, when the momentary switch (TRN) is held at the same time. Disarming is the unaltered, to allow quick disarming. While I only added this after accidentally arming a quad while carrying it, it has prevented accidents since then.

@DoctorrMetal

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@MarkJaquith

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same setup, with some extra logic. My arm switch has to be in the arm position. That makes a prearm beep so I know I've done it. Next, throttle has to be low to arm. Then, I use my momentary switch to arm, but I have to hold it for 0.3 seconds, which further prevents me from accidentally arming. When I want to arm, I can do it quickly, but three distinct things (pre-arm, throttle zero, hold arm) have to happen. Oh, and also it'll say "throttle warning" if I try to arm when the throttle is high, so I know why it didn't arm.

@cu3d

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkJaquith This also sounds like a very safe option :) Mine actually works the other way around: Only, if the Momentary switch is held down first with the arm switch toggled at the same time it arms. So If I bump the arm switch to on and afterwards the momentary it does not arm the quad.

I’ve been flying quads for 7 years. I’ve literally only accidentally disarmed once, and it was a marginal case where I panicked when I didn’t need to actually disarm. Cool logic and I love my momentary arm switch, but a two-part disarm is a bad idea.

@Wild_FPV

2 жыл бұрын

I have accidentally disarmed a few times but I agree, this isn't too good of an idea😆

@LowetheTechGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Hell I'd rather the consequences of pre-disarm rather than those that come with split second thinking omg wth was that disarm code I can't think of!? The point of disarm is for PANIC scares, saves and sacrifices for PEOPLE, ANIMALS and things I can't afford to repay only, not for fidgety fingers! I could Arm, disarm and rearm 3 times before I could recall any crazy stuff.

In my experience, FreeFly multirotors have something similar - you cannot disarm the aircraft unless you have the momentary switch pulled up. This is because when you’re flying an aerial platform that is potentially carrying $50,000+ of camera equipment, accidentally disarming - especially when you might be flying over the people/things you’re filming - can actually be more dangerous than being able to disarm immediately. Of course, this is a completely different scenario than a typical 5” quad will fly in, but that is one pretty good reason to have a setup like this.

@slothFPV

2 жыл бұрын

i like that setup

@dtrl6096

2 жыл бұрын

Since they run on forks of PX4 the emergency disarm feature can be setup in the FC settings. Every AltaX I've flown has not had an emergency disarm switch for exactly what you say, preventing accidentally dropping 50lbs of equipment onto the heads of a film crew, but has had a method to disarm within a few seconds if you are trying to do it on purpose.

@KaminKevCrew

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtrl6096 for sure. So far the only Freefly platform I've actually been able to fly is an old Alta 6 with the pre pix based flight controller, synapse. I'm jealous you've gotten to fly the Alta X - they're insanely cool. A buddy of mine is working on getting a camera car setup with a motocrane for a filming business he's starting, and he's planning to hire me out as his pilot which should be fun. Once he starts making some money he's either going to buy an Alta X, or have me design an aerial platform instead.

@dtrl6096

2 жыл бұрын

@@KaminKevCrew depending on the weight requirements consider a FreeFly Astro, it's their new platform that is about half the price of an Alta X but carries things like a Sony a7rIV and not things like a full size cinema camera.

@KaminKevCrew

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtrl6096 we're looking into the Astro as well - I think for our purposes we will probably need something bigger like the X though. Right now we're using a Black Magic Pocket Cinema 4k on a Movi Pro, and it looks like we'll be moving towards a Red Komodo for aerial duties before too long, so that it can pull double duty on an aerial gimbal in addition to a cinelifter (possibly a siccario)

Love when you do the acting. Always awesome

Trying to make a simple armed and disarmed switch and htx 2.8 thank you for the help

My second time out with an FPV quad (Rekon 3) I found myself with WAY more altitude than I wanted. Some part of my brain told me to disarm my quad to shed some height.. somehow I established the presence of mind to re-arm my quad as I was tumbling from the sky, and by some miracle I must have been close to level when I got the arm switch flipped because I actually leveled out (horizon mode) and was able to resume flying. No, I did not remember to turn on my DVR before this happened and yes, I am really bummed about it because I hardly believe it myself.

Excellent tips JB! This is the exact reason I run my "armed" switch all the way down when flying. No chance I'll bump it as my finger is resting on it as I rip. Thanks brother!

@su_K3N

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. I use a pre arm to prevent accidental arming.

@PhantomFPV

2 жыл бұрын

@@su_K3N 100%!

@OdysseusVrakas

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have to flip your pre arm every time you want to arm?

@PhantomFPV

2 жыл бұрын

@@OdysseusVrakas I don’t use prearm. @Ken Kenemore?

@divingfalconfpv4602

2 жыл бұрын

On my jumper that it's tight & I keep my finger there I'm afraid I'll hit by accident. But I'm so use to up arm down disarm that I just changed where I keep my finger.

there is no need to make 2 arm switches incase you disearm in the air.... lmao go into the config and make it to where you can arm on any unlevel axis and then if you by mistake disarm you can still arm weil in the air or falling

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

Ah... so you make it so it can arm when you are carrying it, and it chews someone's face of... yes, lmao indeed! 😝 There's always pros and cons to the safeties on the FCs... yes, it means you can't arm if you disarm in flight... but it also means it can't arm if upside down in the field (and you fly LOS or VTX feed was lost - yes, I know you could setup telemetry for orientation - average Joe doesn't though), or when you're carrying it... two stage / prearm is one way to mitigate that, another is some variation of the disarm logic Joshua shows... I'm sure another is to tie a long string tried to the end of your quad for easy retrieval! 🤣 But it is certainly another option to be considered when making the choice that suits *you* best.

Excellent, as usual. I was thinking of duplicating a 6 (in this case 5) position switch on the Zorro using a pair of 3 position switches. Obviously, there needed to be a logic switch involved (to disable one switch when the second is activated) but I knew practically nothing about using them. This video gave me a one-stop solution to the necessary conditions and function of logic switches, especially "sticky" switch use cases. Great work, JB, keep it up. Doubtless there are many permutations of logic switches this video applies to... ...not just dangerous arming modifications! Yea! Solved!

I can already see someone getting few cuts with this setup.

Dude, these intros are getting better and better! :-)

Also i wonder if JB has two controllers, One for himself to fly. One for him to show people how to program every situation possible. Hes truly helpful and informative. I guarantee there will be an informative video for new comers. I know for a fact he will take on any tech challenge I firmly believe he does this for his love and passion to see fpv grow. WITH ALL THAT SAID, THIS IS HIS FULL TIME JOB/ and I personally believe he out works his compensations.

@LowetheTechGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Oh you know he isn't undoing all the things he does to go fly. That would take as long as it took to do it the first time. That's my problem, I love Bardwell and deep dives but I get confused sometimes.

@wrstew1272

2 жыл бұрын

The demo radio doesn’t have purple metal. But I have seen him using his daily driver for explanation of setup.

@kennykobi

2 жыл бұрын

Well ignorance is Bliss, pay attention to the video maybe you will learn something ☝️. Knowledge is power, looking back has 1 video helped? I can honestly say yes.

I think it's a goofy idea but i love the transmitter set up and experimentation. I use this tx for my long range fpv and my RC helicopters!

I have a two-step sequence where I hold two switches up for three seconds & then, let go of one switch to arm. All this does is unlock my controls, but the motor is not started. To start the motor, I flip one of the switches that I used to arm (which starts the motor) & then, I'm ready for takeoff. In the context of helicopters, if the motor is accidentally switched off in mid-flight, I can easily do an autorotation & safely glide the helicopter in to land. Quads, on the other hand, the very second the motors stop spinning, they literally drop out of the sky.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

And worse, due to "safety checks" it won't let you rearm if disarmed in flight (you have to crash first). I. E. You need to at least disable the arming angle check, then you might have a chance.

@NiCadHeliPilot

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfeerick Fortunately, in my case, the flight controllers on all of my helicopters don't have that angle "safety check". If I took away all the arming logic that I have created in my Radiomaster & left it up to me hitting a single switch, the helicopter will start up any time & every time that switch is activated - whether intentional or not.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

@@NiCadHeliPilot That's the real beauty of these transmitters and OpenTX/EdgeTX, isn't it... you can customise it to suit *your* needs and preferences... i.e. I wouldn't want an arm switch to allow arming with the throttle up... that just seems plain stupid. And a disarm without *some* sort of input validation... whether it be two switch/press, two condition (hey, disarm switch and throttle down!), a switch under a cover (yeah, why is it the "bombs away" switch is under a cover, anyway? 😁), etc also seems crazy... but I also know other people just want a disarm switch. What I wouldn't want to see is the stupid "press this button for three seconds for emergency motor cut" that I know a quad manufacturer does... three seconds is a long time... especially when it actually doesn't work once it's hit the ground/tree/whatever...

@NiCadHeliPilot

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfeerick Exactly. =^/.^=

THIS was actually what happen way waaaaaayy before years ago... until everyone else considered this "unsafe".

Lol sounds more than dangerous 😅 when i disarm at landing i hover with 15-25% Throttle.... will not most qauds start bouncing when they "land on the ground" without diarm??? 🤨🤔Thanks for al ur effort! Always nice to learn something :)👍 (edit two: the finishing of the setup answered all my open questions)

@MarkJaquith

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I always disarm midair (like a foot off the ground). But with this setup, I think what would happen is... you're hovering at 25% throttle or whatever your static hover is, and then you flip the switch to the disarm position (and nothing happens), and then you just quickly pull the throttle to zero, and it disarms and falls the last foot to the ground.

@PhrozenN

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they will bounce unless you (like me) have airmode on a switch so you can turn it off.

Wow... absolutely brilliant. Thank you.

I have actually done something similar for all my Jets, Ducted fan, Gasser and Glow models my setup is the opposite of this though, with the throttle low arming is by pulling the momentary sw for about 3 sec while the arm sw is in the armed position, disarm is instant and not tied to the throttle, stops you accidentally arming a model with the throttle open a bit

I can totally see a kid coming and messing with a radio while flying!

i just imagined arming a quad and not being able to disarm it. proceed with caution lol

I actually setup a double physical switch arm and disarm for all my machines. I put the left switch (same as JB usually uses) in arm or disarm position, but it only enables that position when you flick the right momentary switch. I can do this pretty fast too, if needed. The way I did it was using a global variable. To apply to this logic.. The mix of the Arm channel uses MAX of GV1. Special functions cause GV1 to go +100 or -100 based on logic switches or physical switches. Since I was using momentary, I also created logical switches with Edge function.

@FlyPixVideos

2 жыл бұрын

I do the same. Haven't had an accidental disarm since. And can disarm just as easily.

ROFLMAO! Comedy with fpv is the best!

Pretty interesting indeed, Joshua! Thanks! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

dual disarming switches not associated with throttle, one switch to activate the main instead of -100 throttle.

Hey JB, great chalange. I think logical diagram would be: RS Flipflop while S = ARMS_SW; R=notARM_SW AND notTHR ;) OpenTX is beautifull :D almost like the old days programming calculators :P

"The days of servos..."?? Servos are still relevant JB. Actually anything RC, except multirotors, use servos from fixed wing to boats to any land based vehicles. Unless you are talking tricopter style multirotors that used a servo to control yaw i dont see why you would refer to servos as obsolete 🙃🤣

@big-smoke-rc

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah. I wanted to say - programming transmitters for drones is relatively simple, compared to fixed wings with gear, mixes, end points, travel, conditional trim and sub trim... and that's before you get into IC and turbines etc. And a huge group of people (maybe even still larger than those doing fpv) still use servos and radio programming. Even unpowered gliders can be relatively complicated with conditional flight modes with mixing, timing, delay and expo, programmed solely in the radio.

@billcarriveau

2 жыл бұрын

People are not here for servos, so he is right in what he talks about untill that main focus of this channel would ever change.

@big-smoke-rc

2 жыл бұрын

@@billcarriveau yeah I know.. just sayin

@North49RC

2 жыл бұрын

@@big-smoke-rc 100%

@North49RC

2 жыл бұрын

@@billcarriveau I get what you are saying, his channel is quad focused. Its just an odd way to shove the use of servos under the rug cuz its not a part of the quad realm when you are programming on a EdgeTX/OpenTX equipped radio. Honestly all that logic he did on the radio could have been accomplished in BF as well. That would have made it completely relevant to quads at that point. Although i just found out a week ago that you can configure BF to run a fixed wing as well

I've disarmed while flying exactly 2 times in 3.5 years of flying. First time was within the first 3 months second time was 2 months ago. You know this has got me thinking, what's the best way to solve this problem. I think the only disarm in low throttle is the best for me, yes you could still accidentally disarm during a dive but with my flight style those chances are very low. After you relearn the muscle memory of a new motion it would be just as fast.

@77deerslayer11

2 жыл бұрын

Sound kind of hinged cover??

@jhughes2286

2 жыл бұрын

@@77deerslayer11 What?

I belive you need a second sticky for when you "disarm" throttle down to stay disarmed if you bump the throttle by mistake. Correct me if I'm wrong or if I missed something in the logic. Regards

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

To disarm, you must have switch in disarm position and throttle down. If that happens and you subsequently raise throttle, the switch is still in the disarm position. The quad won't re-arm until you flip the switch to the armed position, with the throttle down.

Hahaha..aaaggghhh! I had a disarm next to a rate profile (throttle scale) switch. Until Easter morning I hit the wrong switch flying back to my location, and aaaaggghhh! A bonus Easter egg hunt in the woods that day!

Ok I really need help with this, I'm doing it on a taranis x9d plus. It all seems to work almost... Except when I watch it in INav modes it seems inverted like it'll only arm when above minimum throttle. I know the percentage system in taranis can be different than radiomaster but I don't know how to fix it. EDIT: ok not sure why but taranis needs the first line in the mixes blank and the two lines under it are the ones in this video! Works great now thanks Joshua you rock

That intro is cool. 👌

You know how that kid hit your switch while you were flying? A child did that to me while I was flying... Sufficed to say... I don't fly around children anymore

There is a fault in how the 'disarm' mixer was set - it actually needs to be "-200%" if you want disarm to be low, arm to be high, since MAX pegged the mix to 100%, so a weight of -100% only took it down to 0% (mid channel), not -100%, as you can see at 7:02 if you watch the mixer and channel output bars at the top of the screen... Also, there is actually no need to set two mixer lines - you could use a single mixer line, and have it hooked to the logical switch directly... makes life a bit easier. But it wouldn't have allowed you to demonstrate replaceable mixer lines linked to switches. I've seen a few takes on non-direct arm/disarm - Mr D's "Open TX Ultimate Arm Switch" which uses logical switches, GVs and even a curve to set the disarm state... which also allows for preventing arming when the throttle is up, and feedback from the transmitter at every state (arm, disarmed, can't arm until throttle low, can't disarm until throttle low), and John over at rcvideoreview's has done a "safer throttle cut" version that won't let you arm the throttle unless the throttle is low. I use a version of that myself as it allows for zero bounce landings since I can enable the disarm during the landing approach (and get audio feedback that it's going to trigger), and then when I drop the throttle it cuts instantly. I do understand your concerns, as with inexperienced pilots it's easy to panic... but to me this allows all the safeties on the FC to do their job, and the transmitter is doing it's job in telling the craft to do what I want it to do. It is a preference. If I was concerned about needing a real "emergency stop" - as that is what we're really talking about, I would probably do something like use the crow feet 6POS on the tx16 as that's basically impossible to hit in flight by accident, or maybe the T5/T6 trims as a momentary switch. It just seems so easy (and is - I've done it twice) to bump one of the other switches when moving your hands in cold weather (i.e. impaired feeling) and disarm in a unrecoverable manner. Most of the time, it's all good... but then there's that time it goes horribly wrong. What really annoys me is both a friend I have camera quads with GPS position hold, return to home, basically can fly themselves better than the monkey behind the joystick... but the emergency motor cut is utter garbage... you're supposed to hold the button for three seconds and it will cut the motors... except when you actually need to use it... it has usually already hit whatever you were trying to not hit, and the emergency cut then won't engage... how stupid is that! MJX really need to do better with their Bugs series!

Isn‘t the easiest way to just use L02 as the „switch“ on channel 5 in the mixer. I think there is no need for all that max shenanigans and all the multiplex replace lines. Since L02 is already activating when arming and only deactivating when disarming and throttle at 0. I do the same thing for prearming on FETtec. Just L02 as my arm switch and done

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

You can't make a logical switch be the source for a mixer line. I tried that.

@lucanixfpv

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell hmmm i definitely have that as the input but then maybe not in the mixer but the output or input page? I’ll check when i‘m home!

@theHDRflightdeck

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell you are mistaken joshua. This is how ive been running for years. On my quad L02 is the source for ch 5 and controls arming.

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

You could set it up as an input, and then make a mixer with that input as source. But not a mixer source directly.

@lucanixfpv

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell ill describe my exact setup when im home but it definitely works to use L02 as the direct source for the arming aux channel 👍

My switch is top left default . Hate it , dropped my Chim 7s from every altitude imaginable.

Sometimes drones arm in betaflight . Low battery can cause crazy betaflight

Lmfao the setup in the beginning is gold

i set mine so you have to hold the right toggle/momentary switch up, then flick the left switch, to turn it on. Got tired of accidentally arming when the radio bumped into something.

Moral of the story is don’t flip JB’s switch.

It sure would be nice to have support for arbitrary expressions instead of all that black magic. Here's how this could look: ARM = ARM ? ((!SF && THR The syntax is open to debate. But the idea is that you would specify the next value of a particular channel (or mix or whatever) based on the current value of any channel (etc) - including the channel itself (equivalent to sticky logical switches).

Tell Roscoe to keep his hands to himself. Great tutorial

What if you bump the other switch . Uh oh

I think my brain just exploded!!!🤯 yep it did!!

If you have old-style switches, I can see why something like this is smart. But, an accidental disarm on the Tango 2, for example, is not easy. You might panic and disarm out of sheer muscle-memory, but nothing else. I haven't yet seen the whole video, but I'm betting there's some cool logic stuff in here;)

I've never got my switch accidentally but i have hit it mid crash when i could have saved it but hit it by reaction

@MarkJaquith

2 жыл бұрын

I do the same thing. Trying to learn to take minor hits and keep going, but my brain is like "IT MADE A WEIRD SOUND" ::disarms::

@devilsreject78

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkJaquith yeah there was a time last night I was flying and I said I wonder if I can make it through this tree right here and I literally made it the very first time but I got a little too close to the ground and for some reason I disarmed instead of hitting the throttle and then I tell you what the next 50 times I tried it I never made it again I have no idea how I made it the first time there was so many branches and sticks... I guess cuz I wasn't really trying all that hard I don't know but there's so many times where I'm just like dang it why did I disarm it I should have just kept going

Does opentx have a random number generator on its logical programming?

This reminds me of something I saw recently on a Screecher video 🤔

I like your title 😂

Were can I buy that shirt?

so if you hit the disarm switch while flying and then drop your throttle it will disarm and fall out of the sky?

@M4TTFPV

2 жыл бұрын

Come here for this comment. Forgetting you've hit the switch and getting surprised a minute or so into a race

@garetolsen

2 жыл бұрын

ok so im not the only one who saw that...

@M4TTFPV

2 жыл бұрын

@@garetolsen not at all, when he said about what we might have missed that was my guess. Don't get me wrong, good video because it could get people thinking about what the switches could do and things like that. Just not for me, simple disarm at the end of a race. Or if I go into a yaw spin after a gate hit, momentary switch is failsafe. The second the flight controller gets at least one packet of failsafe you know you've done all you can to stop that quad. KISS, keep it simple stupid. If it isn't broke, don't fix it

I just got my JB edition radio and I love watching these videos!!! I love bragging about all the things this radio can do that I'll never be smart enough to do!!!! Geeze....

Thanks Josh, I am definitely going to do this with my arm switch!

I keep switching from my skylite and my dji fpv. I keep disarming thinking I’m switching modes.

@Anzyclos

2 жыл бұрын

You're free to remap in the mixer in order to make the switches be the same'ish places as your DJI controller. 👍

Wouldn't it be easier to move back to arm and disarm via stick commands for this case? The function is basically the same: instead of a switch, four channels (the sticks) have to show a certain value all at once.

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

No, definitely not. When you enable stick arming, the yaw axis doesn't work at zero throttle. Kind of a big deal.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

Particularly since we have air mode now - that wasn't a thing when stick arm/disarm was still a thing. There is also a delay, it's not instant... with this... you hit the disarm switch, slam the throttle down, and it would be instant disarm.

Is there a video that explains how I can use two swicht for arming? I have arm on switch SF, but what I want is that it Only Arms when I pull switch SH for a second. 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️✌🏻

@feelfreefpv

2 жыл бұрын

You should find info on that if you search for "setup prearm betaflight" or something like that. I have set it that way after I armed by mistake. Works great. Only drawback is that you might not be able to rearm midflight quick enough. But I think it's worth it for the safety it brings.

@sebiKing1507

2 жыл бұрын

@@feelfreefpv oh thank you for youre fast answer. I am on crutches at the Moment, and I am scared of acedently arm the quad when I pick it up.

My brother flipped my arm switch once. New motor, esc, arm, antenna

“Of course this will not end in disaster, for I am Charpu!”

It hasn't stopped raining in Aust for 6 months!!!!!!!!!! I just wanna fly

Is there a way to swap controls mid flight (in betaflight)? Ie say you wanted your yaw and your roll to swap sticks when you flip a switch? I've had a model that I want to design/print for a while now, but it kinda rides on this control swapping concept to be comfortable.

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

This quad accomplishes that using camera uptilt feature. It flips an aux mode to enable camera uptilt of 90 degrees, which effectively flips yaw and roll. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6idk62FqZiwkqg.html&ab_channel=JoshuaBardwell You could also do it in the mixer screen, using the Switch parameter. Put both yaw and roll on the same 2 channels and use the Switch parameter to decide which is active.

Better to crash a quad than to harm someone because you panicked and weren't able to disarm.

This man should be an actor xD

I found it is very dangerous to use disarm switch. Instead I use motor interlock feature of the ardupilot (refer to kzread.info/dash/bejne/X3iWltdxfK2rZdo.html for more details). Essentially it is momentary turn off/on all copter's engines at any given point in time. It does _not_ disarm the copter. Even if you accidentally turn them off in flight, you can just turn them on immediately. My take off sequence looks like: 1) arm, 2) motor interlock on. Landing sequence is - just disarm after land.

been flying for years with a single arm switch :D

love the skit

people are weird just learn to not disarm

@garetolsen

2 жыл бұрын

fly till it falls out of the sky!!!

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

Not really... accidents happen... I did that twice with my T-Lite as with colder weather, I would move to flick a different switch and would move the disarm switch as my finger was tucked in to trigger it if needed. Ouch!

You already made a video on this!! Well technically, you made a video on the opposite thing of this where you can only arm with throttle down.

@Ali-rb4bo

2 жыл бұрын

this function is built int betaflight tho

@KcCake

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ali-rb4bo something similar but different

You earned it! Now pay the man.😁👍

🤟 woooo for trim switches

I just lost a quad in deep water, seconds after take off.... Clumsy! Is there a way to set up 2 arm switches so that you need 2 switches on to arm, and then 2 switches off, to disarm? Bad idea?

@PkwyDrive13

2 жыл бұрын

All you need is a prearm on a different switch or momentary switch/button.

@funnelfpv9435

2 жыл бұрын

Arming on two but disarming on either of one could be a good idea preventing you flipping and arming accidentally while moving around.

@PkwyDrive13

2 жыл бұрын

@@funnelfpv9435 that's what the prearm mode is for

@nateteator3901

2 жыл бұрын

First, I won't be flying off a boat edge again without a deep water recovery system. Arming is not the concern, it's preventing accidentally disarming the dji controller. The tango 2 arm button is better than the dji toggle switch.

i can’t figure out how to make S1 and/or S2 pots the source switch for a special function. on taranis by the way. any idea how to circumvent this apparent oversight?

@kennethcdeli

2 жыл бұрын

When selecting an input source, just move the switch or pot you want it to use (when you can scroll thru your list). If it's available to use, it should auto fill the input field.

@ruirpm

2 жыл бұрын

You can do it but it will take some steps depending on what you want to accomplish. L01 When S1 is greater than x L02 when S1 is lower than x L03 sticky L01 on . L02 off And L03 will be your switch You can play with it in various ways and add more lines. Hope it helps...

@traviscornett1963

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i got it with logical switches once i sat on it for a bit.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

It's not really an oversight when you think about it... a switch has known states - high/low or high/mid/low... whereas a pot is 0 - 100 ... so how does the TX know at what point do you want the SF to trigger? Thus you need to use a logical switch, to trigger when your pot is in your chosen on position, and for the SFs you can then use the logical switch (i.e. L01) for the on state, and the inverse for the off state (!L01) if just wanting two positions, or use multiple LS lines to emulate a multi-position switch.

Momentary switch with delay is a better set up.

That’s fuckin cool as shit. Great video. I love this kinda stuff. Not that I want to do this exact setup but it helps give ideas for other stuff.

You could punch out of a loop with zero throttle and still accidently disarm and it would drop based on this logic. Not that this is any better but maybe disarm could also be based on GPS speed and elevation. So when GPS speed is less than 5mph and elevation is less than 1m allow disarm.

You took your glasses off before you put on your googles. Are they reading glasses or do you have astigmatism like me and have to wear big box googles with glasses.

Why would they want this disarm setup 😂 just learn to stop disarming on accident...I don't think I have ever accidentally disarmed in flight

@divingfalconfpv4602

2 жыл бұрын

Yea jumper t-lite has no room where I wanted to keep my finger so I just got use to keep my finger not in that spot

lol arm disarm. I love flying fuel. No arm/disarm nonsense to worry about.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed... you run out of fuel... it's disarmed! 😆 It was certainly tested the dead stick flying skills of some of the flyers at our old field when that happened...

@TestECull

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfeerick Lol. I usually set my timers to avoid running it dry! Like to taxi back and kill the engine when I want it to die. Call me lazy I don't feel like walking out halfway across the runway to get it after a flight lololol Usually I land with about a quarter tank left on board.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

@@TestECull Now that's just showing off! 😆 I certainly get the "call me lazy" point though... I have been known to fly a miniquad / "whoop" (some 4 inches in diameter, if that) at our flying field and fly it right up to my feet so I don't even have to get off the chair to retrieve it! 😇

@TestECull

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfeerick With my 4-stroke birds it's usually a 20 minute timer! The 2 strokes and my 4-stroke FPV ship have 10 minute timers or somewhere thereabouts. Depends on fuel tank size and engine consumption; generally the 4-strokes use half as much fuel in my builds but on a couple of birds the fuel tank compartment just doesn't allow as much fuel reserve as I'd like. Ah well.

Mmmmmmm freeze pops.

Here's another similar challenge: disarm only possible when the quad is near you(less than 10meters?)

@onemanmob6756

2 жыл бұрын

....and let it burn when it gets stuck high on a tree or when you crash-land it in deep grass just a foot further than the max disarm range... what an awesome idea!

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

@@onemanmob6756 lol... there's always exceptions... that's why the disarm channel still needs a 'emergency override' that you can just trigger but still hard to accidentally trigger... which you could do say with the T5/T6 trims as momentaries or one of the 6POS button positions on the TX16S, etc... i.e. use GPS telemetry to determine you're not close enough to disarm, but if you pull the T5/T6 trim back (or maybe push T5 forward), instant disarm.

a deadly arm switch lol

Don’t do it! Hahahaha

😮

Disagree. No more dangerous that a hard disarm. Issue here is that you have programed your own brain to work in a different ways to how the quad is configured correctly.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed... IMO a more elaborate version of that is better... you have audible feedback of arm/disarm/pending disarm... and you can recover from an potential accidental in-air disarm or use it as a two stage disarm like I do for landing approach. It's just what is "comfortable" / makes sense to you. i.e. flip the switch, snap the throttle down... it's disarmed.

I can see landing would be interesting, flip the switch, come in for a landing and disarms on 0 throttle... might try it lol

@matthew164

2 жыл бұрын

Or or add a second disarm switch for those landings

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually quite good... if you use a more sophiscated version of this, you can also set "disarm pending" audible/haptic notifications... prompting you to flick if back if was an accidental disarm... and when pull the throttle back for the landing, it disarms as it hits the ground with zero bounce.

Ok I'm out.

Nope Nope Nope.

Why are your videos so long? It should be short and concise. It gets lost in the main topic!

My second time out with an FPV quad (Rekon 3) I found myself with WAY more altitude than I wanted. Some part of my brain told me to disarm my quad to shed some height.. somehow I established the presence of mind to re-arm my quad as I was tumbling from the sky, and by some miracle I must have been close to level when I got the arm switch flipped because I actually leveled out (horizon mode) and was able to resume flying. No, I did not remember to turn on my DVR before this happened and yes, I am really bummed about it because I hardly believe it myself.