Timestamps (update randomly) - 0:40 how to watch on VK (Russian social media) - 2:29 Dave getting his program done this week - 3:01 Sandra’s advice for watching Oppenheimer - 4:38 ice bath and podcast on ice bath 5:15 Daniel Grassl - 5:25 went to Eteri during the war and during the doping scandal - 5:58 olympic athletes weighting in on checking in with WADA every day - 6:52 talking with Olga (his coach in US) - 7:06 from US to Eteri - 7:22 going to Eteri to put spotlight on him - 7:31 WADA contact u after u miss a drug test (phone/email) - 8:20 not a great look for Eteri - 8:47 his early days on trying to be good will for Italy and now he lost it - 9:09 could be suspended for 2 years - 9:32 Dave asked athletes what they feel if they missed one drug test - 10:07 is RUSADA doing the test - conspiracy theory - 10:39 Eteri has a 12yo that is doing quads Lombardia/JGP - 10:45 Eteri in Lombardia (for Nika) - 11:31 Georgian making a big push (Lombardia/JGP) 11:57 - JGP - 12:00 Ukrainian team winning gold for ice dance - 12:04 Minkyu Seo winning men - 12:15 Ami Nakai (women gold medalist) - 13:06 Elyce Lin-Gracey - 13:19 problem with USFS behind skaters - 13:46 USFS has packaging consultant for Juniors - 14:50 Tammy’s special - 15:03 Free Skate music - 15:43 Jonathan’s take on why USFS get behind someone because they don’t implode - 15:52 Ava Ziegler - 18:12 not a great lot of good coaches in USFS - 18:58 back to Ami Nikai - 19:43 Georgian Pair - 19:53 the guy ditch his old partner and pair with this junior - 20:14 Feeling unsettle with Jeffrey Chen in Junior 21:03 Ice Dance in general - 21:07 sibling team - 21:23 short male ice dancer - international issues - 24:30 Green/Parson and other pairs has the similar problems - 26:17 Ian Somerville - 27:09 Hawkeye/Baker in 2014 - 28:18 Jonathan’s fave ice dance team on Anjelika Krylova (Kaganovskaia/Angelopol) split up - (side conv 28:41 - Dave love Kostornia skating) - 31:32 Jonathan’s opinion for Italian Pair in Lombardia Trophy (Guignard/Fabbri) - 34:04 80s theme for RD > Marie France’s teams -- 34:28 Czech Mrazkova/Mrazek sibling team -- 35:18 Czech Taschlerova/Taschler sibling team the only one not touching the board

@shomaunofan8486

10 ай бұрын

Continue….(cuz KZread don’t like long comments) - 36:33 Green/Parson - 36:40 RD - 37:11 FD - 38:23 Guignard/Fabbri - 40:20 RD - 41:56 Chock/Bates 52:57 Last season boring in terms of competition - 53:10 Men last year vs this year - 53:47 Yelim Kim Women - 54:38 Hana Yoshida (Lombardia Trophy) - 55:18 Isabeau supposed to compete mid-Atlantic but W/D Men - 58:46 Yuma Kagiyama - 1:00:03 Free Skate (Lori Nichols) - 1:00:51 Short Program (Shae Lynn) - 1:02:59 Andrew Torgashev - 1:04:00 Nika (Georgia) - 1:04:06 coach by Eteri (Side conv) - 1:06:05 back to Yelim Kim - 1:06:25 Lindsey Thorngren - 1:06:35 Colorado factory - 1:07:07 Tom Z - 1:07:23 Alex O said look at how the coach dress up Pairs 1:11:17 Italian pair in Lombardia - 1:12:25 fall in FS -- 1:12:56 rumor Amber Glenn and Sonja Hilmer collided…possible concussion - 1:13:31 FS music - (side conv 1:15:56 rumor of new pair team in China. Since Han retired)

@janetwatkinson745

10 ай бұрын

Glad you mentioned touching the boards. I Noticed it and wasn't it Fear Gibson that started it? Well it needs to stop there will have to be a rule 😗The height difference of the Italians has never bothered me. It doesn't hinder them at all in the lifts.What I don't like more is the difference between Kazakova Reviya.They look like a pair team.

@My-hat

10 ай бұрын

So thoroughly done, appreciate all the time and effort!

@olena89

10 ай бұрын

@@shomaunofan8486 Thank you!!!! God bless you!!!!

Yuma had multiple stress fractures in his foot and ankle, I believe. So pretty similar to Rika’s injury. And Carolina is now officially his coach for PCS!

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

:(

@marisolgarcia3123

10 ай бұрын

Is great so see Carolina coaching Yuma I think she has a lot to teach in the PCS part.

Yes, more updates on Kostornaia pls. There is something so magnetic about her. And thanks for the candid insights into dance height issues and dope testing, of course

Thanks Dave for talking about the the situation regarding Daniel Grassl. It seems like Daniel is in big trouble. He probably should have stayed in the United States and had some of his programs choreographed by Jason Brown.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

💯

@robamell4216

10 ай бұрын

hope they test the georgian skating for eteri that took 2nd at Lombardia..w all this quads!!!!

I think it was Scott Moir who noted that the issue with Guignard/Fabbri is that they are similar in height, but he has a deeper knee bend than she does so they look more mismatched than they are. But Barbara should have fixed this years ago.

i just looked at Nika Egadze last performance. in the 2023 WC in March he placed 29th in the short and so never made the final. now with eteri, this lombardia trophy performance with all those quads is quite the improvement..

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Look at Morisi the Olympic season…

@robamell4216

10 ай бұрын

big changes in this performance versus last year.@@user-pz5yx4pb3e

@robamell4216

10 ай бұрын

good but sad reminder. thanks@@TheSkatingLesson

Dave, can you head over to Flushing Meadows and tell Djokovic and Medevedev to wrap it up? I have some TSL to watch

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Ha!!

@daniellydford6142

10 ай бұрын

It's almost done - 10 minutes, or so.

@schauspielersven

10 ай бұрын

@@daniellydford6142 definitely didn't expect Meddy to choke this bad

@GayleFalkenthal

10 ай бұрын

@@schauspielersvenfacts

Thank you again. Once again, the skating world doesn't make it easy to access competitions - really wanted to see Lombardia content very little around. Really appreciate your recaps, and all of your content.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

❤️🙏

I know this has been said many times but the Ice Dance competition at the 2006 Winter Olympics was the craziest shit show of a competition and I am here for it. ❄️ 🥶❄️

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

100%

@PeiwenTanbassoon821

10 ай бұрын

lol my mom was remembering Barb from it while watching Guignard/Fabbri but she didn't remember Marie-France was there too with a horrifying fall so we watched it after

Thank you guys.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

🙏

Papadakis/Cizeron's Fame RD is still the best 80s RD. Every team this season is missing the fact that the costume, music, and choreo have to all align to showcase the theme-just skating to a mish mash of 80s music and having a side ponytail does not a successful program make.

@janicehill4776

10 ай бұрын

What side pony tails? I haven't seen any at all. I'm incredibly disappointed. No one seems to know what people wore in the 80s. So much great music is being left on the shelf in favor of mediocre pop. Where is the Safety Dance? Only Katarina Wolfkostin and her new partner look like 80s kids. TV ads do better it 80s music than the ice dancers.

@robamell4216

10 ай бұрын

i also think some of the lifts are more gymnastic , awkward and out of context..just in there for points. not entertaining for me.

@JoshuaFazeli

10 ай бұрын

Omg side pony tails… lol😂😂😂

@tanyawade4954

10 ай бұрын

Preach. So much great music and we are getting just warmed over ideas.

@Rachel-rs7jn

10 ай бұрын

God I loved that rhythm dance. That RD is why I wish we would bring back the pattern step. When they did it , it added to the dance and felt like part of the choreography. Difference between good and great.

There’s a new Czech junior ice dance siblings team this season too lol

I really wish Dave would stop talking over Johnathan and let him finish a sentence and thought.

@alexac3098

10 ай бұрын

Every. Single. Time.

I LOVE the Mrazeks but I'm surprised you didn't comment on her posture last season lol (the height difference doesn't seem much different from last season imo). It's always (well, for all of 3 years they've skated together/done ice dance) been a major shortcoming for Katerina. I'm going to consider this season as an exercise to work on their weaknesses. 😂 At least for them, it's their first senior competition/season and only 3 years of doing ice dance for both of them. Running out of excuses for the other senior ice dance teams, however.

@robamell4216

10 ай бұрын

bad ballet and cumbersome lifts

Is there something in the water in Colorado? Between Tom Z and Tammy Gambill, they can coach someone to a national championship who gets clobbered on the world stage.

@amethyst5512

10 ай бұрын

Exactly! Colorado produces no consistent international competition champions. Anyone the US has had with any real success has trained elsewhere. US skating politics is so screwed up.

So interested to know that now Kostner is coaching Yuma.

Jonathon, spot on with Torgishev (msp) step sequence was amazing . Can not wait to see this build !!

Hana Yoshida seems to be really in her head about the 3A, but her programs are so different from the rest of the field! I love the FS in particular.

Dave discussing the Italian ice dancers cringy rhythm dance (and cringy costumes): "What in the acid trip??" I am still laughing.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Great video as always! Also, great review of Oppenheimer, Dave! Totally agree!

@RocketCandyColored

10 ай бұрын

Great soundtrack too

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

What a good point about asking the coaches who their favourite skater is Jonathan - I've just asked one of the authors whose book I am reading what SHE is reading - we want to know what the coaches think

In a case like Daniel’s does the federation have any saying in coaching? Could all of this been prevented? If so, why the federation didn’t intervene?

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

The federation typically has influence over funding.

I just rewatched the documentary to jog my memory. It’s crazy how sensitive they were to size back then. Trixie doesn’t even look large. She looks like a normal, fit woman. Peggy definitely stood out for being a bit more waif like, but she still had muscle. Aside from a tall skater here and there, most skaters in the photos, from previous generations all appear to be relatively similar in size. I mean the variety is like maybe a size 4 to size 8, with an occasional smaller or taller person. No wonder many of us that are elder millennials and Gen-xers grew up in a skating world so obsessed with weight. We weren’t even allowed to wear short sleeved dresses in competition until I was in my teens.

@JohnnyOpera1

10 ай бұрын

So crazy right?! I loved the documentary though. So many great old clips I hadn’t seen before!

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

That documentary is crazy!!

@bassethound1

10 ай бұрын

This documentary is not familiar to me, what was it called?

@katherinecornetta2946

10 ай бұрын

@@bassethound1 It's Reflections on Ice. It's on KZread. Totally recommend. It's the best!

@bassethound1

10 ай бұрын

@@katherinecornetta2946 Thanks so much!

They really need to bring back figures.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

100%

"All of skating is Kitchy " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

💯

The US doesn't want to confront the coaching system being a complete racket because it benefits everybody financially and ego-wise, including USFS leadership. They're all friends and it's a great life, esp for "top" coaches making a Dr's income. A manager at one of the east coast's most prestigious facilities once told me many don't even report their full income to the IRS. Must be nice!

Conti and Macii's short reminds me of Christmas morning with the music and costumes

I've been observing with Tammy Gambill for quite some time wondering what is the fuss about her or why is that USFSA has been promoting her so hard as "Top US Coach". I did some research about her along the skaters that she mentors with and turns out that it didn't last long due to inconsistency when it comes with international competitions even if she has political clouting in the local competitions thus she comes off as incompetent as a coach. It is unfortunately that she claims more victims in a form of small fed skaters.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

👀

Love you, Dave.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

i loved watching torgashev!!! he will be a champion!!!

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

@Rachel-rs7jn

10 ай бұрын

I thought he was destined to be a champion since 2014 Nationals. He's been a bit slow to get there but I still think he's headed for greatness.

@robamell4216

10 ай бұрын

he was out for the last few years w an injury@@Rachel-rs7jn

It is very frustrating each time that Jonathan starts to say something and is constantly interrupted. I counted at least 8 times in this episode. Jonathan shows so much patience.... Please be aware of how off putting this is to the listener.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

I apologize. We are getting into the conversation

@ArohaStill

10 ай бұрын

They both cut each other off lol it's how friends and family talk, get over it lol

@alexac3098

10 ай бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson seriously, aside from being rude, it is soooooo annoying as a watcher because I'm always left wondering what Jonathan was going to say.

What strikes me maybe the most in this Daniel Grassl story is where did Italian Fed have their brains and morals?! How could they ever give their blessing to this move. I mean, to Russia during the war, this horrible aggression and then to Eteri, who is who she is and the whole sporting world knows it. And now Daniel of course stands there with his very own doping related issues. A bit harsh maybe, but I cannot feel sorry for him. And by the way Dave and Jonathan - what you are doing for the clean sport is truly extraordinary. Blessings!

"the short male ice dancer epidemic"!!! so true!! 🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I loved Oppenheimer! I’m the #1 Cillian Murphy fan and Robert Downey Jr. WILL win the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

Dave! Your facial expressions at 36:39! 😂❤

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

I just watched that Madison Kocian thing yesterday!

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Hey Dave, can you send a link to the Madison kocian documentary that you were watching?

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIJtzpmIfsaynqg.htmlsi=OSzIFFe-1VQO9Du8

I enjoyed Barbie.. but then I played with Barbie dolls years ago!

What? I LOVE the Tachlers! Maybe their music choice or their outfits are not always the best... but their speed and the attitude, especially hers! I cannot not give them my full attention. And they seem to be so nice, always cheering their fellow couples, even from the warm-up room :)

The IOC is an old, weak lion. Wouldn’t happen today but not sure how much of a stretch it will be if Brazil, Russia, India and China (BRIC) team up for a competing brand of intl Olympic style and World Cup sports. It happened quickly with Live golf vs the PGA. Tons of eye balls in BRIC and they could buy other smaller countries to go with them.

Most likely, information about the missed doping test was not received by Grassle in time. There are many reasons, because of the change of state, the telephone and mail have changed. Why, as in the situation with Valieva, does WADA withhold information? Valieva was tested in December, the result was delayed until February. Grassl learned about problems with the tests after 3 absences. After the first missed test, WADA could not contact you or did not want to?

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Ultimately, it is on Daniel to update his information in ADAMS. Every athlete at that level knows this. It is very serious.

@alexac3098

10 ай бұрын

I guarantee Daniel was contacted after every missed test. Standard operating procedure.

i really don't know what Daniel thought he would win by joining Eteri, it was obviously a bad ideia and it would do so much damage to his image and it's not like Eteri is well known for being good at training boys anyway. And now look what happened to him, it's like he went through a self destructive process, like good boy gone bad but for real!

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

💯

@amethyst5512

10 ай бұрын

I just can’t comprehend how one could be so stupid. It’s just so many things all together (going during the war, the ongoing doping scandal, her not being successful with men, etc) & now missing so many doping tests while training in doping central in the grand finale of how stupid can you be. It’s also likely the finale of his career.

OMG Andrew Torgashev is amazing!!! Thanks Jonathan for bringing attention to his awesome step sequence. It’s on par with Kevin Aymoz’s. Love it!!

Want to connect with the judges? Do a Kaori Sakamoto in 2019 when she almost beheaded the judges with her blade

My first crush was Zach morris also 😂

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

If USFS is paying more attention to Amber (which, yay) and Ava this season....does this mean something about Isabeau, Bradie, and Lindsay? I mean, I heard everything you said about Isabeau, which we all started to really notice last season....but what can we infer this means for Bradie and Lindsay?

I feel they should choose different music for Mrazeks - if they wanted a dramatic waltz Chatschaturjan's Masquerade waltz would be a way better choice. They could do simply dancy program without need to portray a story.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

💯

I‘m aware this is never going to happen, but you chatting about mismatched partners in ice dance made me mentally rematch them for fun and imagine if Lewis Gibson and Olivia Smart were to team up. 🔥 Also, I remember there were once rumours that Maya Khromykh was looking to transfer to Italy. Wish that she had and left the Tutberidze group too, she could have been coached by Carolina Kostner in PCS. I always thought that Maya was an elegant, artistically gifted skater, but team Tut tragically failed to refine these talents (as per usual).

Ok, my Gen X self hated the music edit of Guinard & Fabri's RD. Against All Odds in the middle? Nope

They give the non-Russian students access to Dr. Shevetzky but don’t tell them how to avoid detection, evidently.

@triplea_qgb1963

10 ай бұрын

Elizabet somehow was okay in the end..

“Not running, but she still cares about changing the world.” lol😂

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

@sallyjean2250

10 ай бұрын

Just not enough! Good one, Jonathan. :)

I’m a believer = Shrek 2. Believer= Imagine Dragons.

Sad to see the Tammy takeover in this country, particularly bc there isn’t actually much evidence that that camp will ever get people where they should be consistency and skill-wise…was really sad to see Elyce Lin Gracey move to Tammy. Last year she was coached by Naomi Nari Nam, and I thought her skating was more endearing with that leadership :(

I do not mean this is any shady or dismissive way, but I often just don't see the critique and negative aspects that Dave and Jonathan discuss. E.g. I don't see the terrible height difference in the Italian team, I don't think Green and Parsons are that bad etc. I am not a professional or even an amateur. I often try and see what TSL discusses and have looked at some skaters or programs differently after their discussions. But sometimes when I completely disagree - I wonder is it my total blindness and incompetence or the beauty of this world that we are all different and like different things? :) anyhooo always interesting to listen to!!

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Honest question - how long have you watched skating for?

@zozaazz8044

10 ай бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson I used to watch when I was a kid - the lipinsky and slutskaya , yagudin, pluschenko, berezhnaya era. Then a looong break with bits and pieces. Then started very actively again in 2019.

That is so sad about Daniel Grassl. He was such a pleasant young man. Bad influences on him somewhere along the way.😢😢

@Jeremy-wp4yh

10 ай бұрын

He made his decision. Nobody forced him. Time to pay the consequences

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

💯

@patlaing4489

10 ай бұрын

Daniel Grassl was very talented too. Shame he made bad decisions 😭

Daniel Grassl is officially suspended for 1 year

I can’t with the Grassl situation… I met him last year and had my photo taken with him and judging by his interaction with the young female fans who bought him chocolate strawberries, he seemed like a “massive tool” . Not the brightest bulb but I also feel the adults in his life failed him too. What parent would let their kid move to Russia and train with Eteri? I’’m sure he thought his “manager” or maybe federation would take care of the address change. Maybe he thought thought WADA or whoever would find out where he was by google or look at his ISU bio snd find him in Novogorsk 😂 And I also think it was a ploy by the italian federation to buy themselves a team medal in Torino. Yes he is an adult but a young one. Young adults make bad life decisions all the time. I.E choosing the wrong college. But this was beyond that… Finally, I hate to say it other than Olivia and Tim, my favorite Rhythm Dance is that or Maria and Giorgi. It’s not too much and captures the essence of the music. Green and Parson’s were painful to watch. And Charlie’s junior team seems like such a carbon copy of he and Meryl it bother’s me and I was a Meryl and Charlie uber fan.. One things for sure Carreira and Ponamarenko’s RD is beginning to look better and better. At least it’s different..

I wonder if Grassl dislikes being drug tested and Eteri promised him that he would get tested less if he trains with her 🤔😂

no doping but terrible conditions? health conditions? training conditions? i dont quite get it

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Training

@kamelenka

10 ай бұрын

@@TheSkatingLessonThank you clarifying

Dave and Johnathan there will always be haters! Tune them out and don’t change ❤

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

The Italians rhythm dance is the second most offensive program I’ve seen this year (after Rocky of course). Those costumes are so off putting. They don’t scream 80s, they scream colorblind.

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

It is a real choice…

@robamell4216

10 ай бұрын

the first Italian team to skate in the free...she had a super high cut bottom (like a very sexy bathing suit) under her sheer skirt. with twizzles and splits it was quite a show.

@robamell4216

10 ай бұрын

yes jonathan..thank you "practically naked"..glad i am not the only one bothered by this. i am missing the grace flow and taste of what ice dance (for me) should be.

@lindaallison5338

10 ай бұрын

I mean, there were only 3 music edits unlike their normal RDs which normally have 27. Small mercies 🤷‍♀️

I'm trying to process the fact that you spent like 20 minutes complaining about ice dance women's bodies and then you called the BODYSUITS misogynistic?

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

Apparently you missed what we were saying.

@carlingtedesco3933

10 ай бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson I get that you were discussing mismatched partners. I heard you begin the segment highlighting “short ice dance men.” Unfortunately your talking points seemed to focus on criticizing the women of those partnerships. I believe I heard and understood the segment quite well.

@christinethorp3684

10 ай бұрын

@@carlingtedesco3933 I saw it completely the opposite. If they had talked about the "too-tall women ice dancers," then that would have been a criticism of the women. Or worse, as they like to discuss in Russian media, how the women need to lose weight if their partners can't lift them, instead of saying that the men need to hit the gym and/or learn proper lifting technique.

@carlingtedesco3933

10 ай бұрын

@@christinethorp3684 In my response to TSL, I addressed the fact that Dave introduced the segment referring to "short ice dance men", but the majority of his points referred to the perceived deficiencies of the female partner. Though no-one said this specifically, the subtext read (to me) that KHaw should have been dumped, Guignard should have been dumped, Caroline should have been dumped, so their amazing male partners could find someone better and smaller. If that is NOT what the hosts meant, I hope they will consider choosing their words more carefully in the future.

Hi dave please give possibility to translate in italian....you speak too fast for me🤪

by the way all RD are just terrible !!!

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

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Kostornaia is my exception to the rule, the rule being that I haven’t cared about or paid attention to any of the Russian skaters since the Olympics fiasco and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But she is too talented, charismatic, fabulous, likeable, and special not to pay attention to. Russia has kidnapped so many Ukrainian children since the invasion began that I say the US or Canada should just kidnap her and her husband, give them citizenship and pay for their training.

@junglesuperstar9270

10 ай бұрын

Did u stop caring about American skaters ? Let me think since when . Lybia ? Syria ? Afghanistan ? Iraq ? Korea ? Vietnam ? Nuclear bombs on Japan ?

@evanperilstein5308

10 ай бұрын

@@junglesuperstar9270Thank you for the whataboutism. Btw, Russia bombed the shit out of Syria and killed more civilians than the US and other Western forces did. But I digress. The situations are entirely different. Was the US already in trouble for a state-sponsored doping program when it entered any of those wars? No. Russia had already been caught doping its athletes on numerous occasions. The unjustified and illegal invasion of Ukraine (an invasion which has large support among the Russian population according to the Levada Center) was the cherry on top of the shit sundae that Russian culture has become.

@junglesuperstar9270

10 ай бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 oh really )))) so, when west bomb and destroy other countries, that’s ok.) how many American athletes were banned from sport for doping ? Neil Armstrong , numerous runners including Olympic champions ) that’s totally different )

@user-ex2wj8gm5e

10 ай бұрын

​@@evanperilstein5308 Просто эталон лицемерия. Получается, американцам можно бомбить другие страны, потому что у них нет проблем с допингом? Вы ведь понимаете, что ваша логика и аргументы выглядят просто абсурдно?

@rn_lvlss

10 ай бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308you should not believe Levada center and all these statistics and questionnaires, it doesn’t show a real situation here

I love to watch the skating but realize only the Russian Chanel 1. Promoted in such a way that promoted the sport. It has become to difficult to find the Chanel’s following the sport , Junior Grand Prix coverage is boring at best and was once so exciting . I am afraid the sport of figure skating is on the brink of collapse .

Lol Oppenheimer was terrible. But at least you watched it to catch up with what will probably get tons of Oscar noms.

@eeeeeeeeeee2

10 ай бұрын

was it that bad? I honestly ask since I was planning to go see it tomorrow however I wonder if it's worth 3 hours of my time

@TheSkatingLesson

10 ай бұрын

I like to have an opinion when the awards season is upon us. I enjoyed it. Based on reviews and its IMDb rating, many others did as well.

@triplea_qgb1963

10 ай бұрын

​@@eeeeeeeeeee2it was awful.