Liza will always have a special spot in my heart I love her strength, her tenacity and how she always gave everything!

@ArohaStill

6 ай бұрын

She was robbed of her Olympic spot.

+1 to Kolyada’s “white crow” being the ideal male Russian figure skating program…miss him!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

@LaLa-ht3rp

5 ай бұрын

Also the Nutcracker❤

@primalcritters

5 ай бұрын

Yes! He is a genius and should have had more recognition. His artistry is on the best of the best level. Ballet on ice

I miss Kolyada. I am not surprised he is not competing but he is the one of the few males who has it all.

@primalcritters

5 ай бұрын

Kolyada for me is like the female version of Valieva. Body Lines to die for and ballet on ice

I loved Kostornaia as a singles skater and I think she has real potential as a pairs skater. Her husband has improved too. I hope she remains motivated to compete. To be honest Kostornaia was the only reason I watched any of Russian nationals. Another great show thank you. I enjoy Maya's insight. And I agree Liza would be the smart choice to send to international competitions if she can maintain her triple axel. Liza and Kosto would have stood a decent chance of a medal in this field of ladies.

I'm glad Maya has mentioned Ksenia Sinitsyna as one of the highlights of the Championship. But I wish both she and David dedicated a bit more time to this brilliant skater. She feels music as no one else does among Russian female skaters, her body movements and her freedom in how she moves are estonishing. I noticed this year she has this fire to put her best out there and appetite to compete, and I am eager to see this talented skater among top-3 in Russia.

@elenamastiukova2787

6 ай бұрын

Agree, Sinitsina is out of this world in terms of musicality not only anong Russian but in the world in general. Perhaps, the reason she wasn’t given enough spotlight is that they don’t expect her competing internationally with Russia’s one quota.

@primalcritters

5 ай бұрын

Shes amazing. She's not Valieva level in term of perfect body lines, but she's a beautiful skater

Love having Maya on. She's the perfect person to bridge the divide and explain what's going on within her beat.

Maya is my absolute favorite TSL guest! She's so knowledgeable and straight with her answers and opinions. Love your dynamic with her!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

❤️❤️

Love Maya! After years of watching Russian skating without quite knowing what they are saying etc and trying to piece it together through body language - so good to know some background and get insight into what they are saying in interviews etc.

Please cover everything Russian with Maya she’s a gem

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

She is great!

@idgie_treadgood

6 ай бұрын

​​@@TheSkatingLesson Dave, I'm sorry, but Maya was wrong. The dress for Isabeau Levito was not made by Maria Evstigneeva. Usually another Russian designer sews for Isabeau (Svetlana Kolobova, "Axel"). Evstigneeva sewed for Anna Frolova, Dmitry Aliyev, Artur Danielyan

@alexac3098

6 ай бұрын

Agree +10000000!!!

@znhurston

6 ай бұрын

i agree!

Finally someone said how good Russian male skaters are 👏🏻

I could listen to Maya all day. She’s very good at this and I appreciate her passion for cutting through the drama, humanizing the Russian skaters and bringing us back to the love of the sport. Also I appreciate her ability to steer and be direct. It’s something I’ve never been able to do myself growing up in the West 😉

@naailtariq5930

6 ай бұрын

I especially love how she sees thru dave's conjecture bs sometimes 😂 I like him but sometimes he relies on gossip too much

@primalcritters

5 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

Really liked that both of you were able to push each other a little on different topics and have to justify your opinions on this episode. It lends to a more nuanced conversation!

Ok I never comment on this and I swear Jonathan is my boy…. I love Maya! She offers a really good perspective and provides an insightful update on the skater too which helps us novice viewers trying to keep up! Please have her come back to review Russian we miss them in international competition

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

This is her third time on!

Thank you for inviting Maya. Great conversation

So glad to see Maia back. However I was feeling very bad for Kromekh.coming in last. Tarasova's comments were unneeded about her physical appearance. I was so happy for Mishina & Galliamov's victory.

I really enjoy hearing Maya’s perspective. Thanks for having her back again!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I always thought Medvedeva would make a phenomenal skating commentator and coach! She’s an old soul, she was so mature as a child, to the point where she understood the reasons why the coaches demanded so much of her. During her training, I think she absorbed so much that she could easily train upcoming generations of figure skaters. Not every successful skater can go on to be a great coach, but she would be excellent at it. Moreover, she would be a great skating commentator. She has the voice for it, as well as the knowledge to become one of the best.

I am enjoying this and I have not even watched any of the videos floating around in Reddit. Now I know which ones to look out for

Thanks for having Maya on to discuss Russian Nationals with you!! She is so informative and brings a fresh perspective.

Aliona and Liza are amazing and we miss them on international ice.

Dave mentioned the late night talk show(Ivan Urgant) the Russian skaters used to go on. Anna recorded an episode on Feb 22nd but by the time it was suppose to air on the 25th the show had been taken off the air.

Thank You for covering this Dave.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

You're welcome

I'm definitely one of those westerners who loves Liza and Kosto.😳 And I agree with Maya on Frolova and Sinitsyna. Fro really feels the music and she's so consistent, and I loooove Sinitsyna, there's such a lovely, delicate quality to her skating. She's getting older though, she'll be 20 next season, not sure how much longer she'll want to stick around skating knowing she'll always be competing against overscored Eteri skaters and losing to their sub-par skating skills. 💀

@theprinceoftides6836

6 ай бұрын

The awful truth ..

@kennethlam150

6 ай бұрын

Kseniia is a fun skater to watch for sure, but her flaws are pretty obvious as well, her movements and musicality did not show great improvements compared to her junior days. Also, her jumps are pretty small which lacks ice coverage, I doubt she would be able to go any further if she is allowed to compete internationally at the moment

@kennethlam150

6 ай бұрын

Kseniia is a fun skater to watch for sure, but her flaws are pretty obvious as well, her movements and musicality did not show great improvements compared to her junior days. Also, her jumps are pretty small which lacks ice coverage, I doubt she would be able to go any further if she is allowed to compete internationally at the moment

@elenamastiukova2787

6 ай бұрын

Sinitsina is losing to Eteri skaters because unlike them she doesn’t have ultra-Cs. She’s lost to Muravieva (who is team Pluschenko btw) with triple axels. Sinitsina is an amazing skater whose talent is widely recognized by experts and commentators like Tarasova, and there really is no need to victimize her and blame Eteri. Sinitsina is not yet equipped to beat Valieva and Petrosyan.

Thank you for this video David and Maya. Let's all work to unite athletes worldwide.

Apparently there was a survey of the most popular and influential athletes within Russia 2023 and Trusova was second overall after a famous tennis player. She was first amongst all skaters and I think Scherbakova was 8th or something. The survey relied on social media interactions, adverts income press etc. The unfortunate thing is success like that will definitely stoke her haters. For good or ill people just cannot take their eyes off Trusova. She is a real unique character in sport. I wish her and all the Russian team the very best health and luck in love and sport in 2024 🎉🎉🎉

@sirena3470

6 ай бұрын

I am surprised Kamila wasn’t in the first place, she is usually pushed to the top for everything 😅 I love Sasha and Anna, both are amazing skaters 😍

@tweetiepie2023

6 ай бұрын

@@sirena3470 I guess there are a few different surveys made at different times. Valieva was busy with competitions maybe not so much in PR and social media and adverts as Sasha was. I think Tarasova has been critical of Sashas 'commercialism' but why bother with competitions when the scores are so biased? Valieva was favoured last season but it seems to be turning around now. Sasha and Anna also had bias in their favour at various times though it never seems to last.

@d.n.8919

5 ай бұрын

Sasha is trying to become an “influencer” now. So is Anna to a degree, but Sasha has been more active on social media. Anna seems uncomfortable whenever she gets brand deals or advertisements (I love Anna by the way, but she is just more of a quiet personality than Sasha).

@primalcritters

5 ай бұрын

​@@tweetiepie2023definitely. I'm actually surprised that Anna is not going to get a PhD or even an MD, she's more of a brainiac.

Thanks for the recap!!!!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

You bet!

Please have her around more often. It's nice to get an insider's view who instead of being polite, diplomatic and deferential, like Jonathan usually is, pushes back on Dave and calls out his BS. It makes for a WAAAYYY more entertaining stream.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

I enjoy the irony of this comment. I invited Maya for the purpose of having an informed discussion, not agreeing with me on everything. This is the third time I had Maya on the show. I have also brought Alissa Czisny on, Meagan Duhamel, Elena Betchke, etc. I am regularly looking to bring in expert voices with a variety of opinions. The guests don't come from a tree. I choose and invite intelligent people who has opinions and are comfortable voicing them. And I invite them for those reasons.

I love Anna Frolova! I'm so glad she's getting the attention and rewards for her hard work now!

@krobill2

6 ай бұрын

I agree with this completely! My favorite part of her skating is how completely seamless her transitions are. That’s not always something we see in skating these days!

I love how Maya redirects you, Dave! The best dynamic :) and great show, I agree you are doing something amazing for skating. It's insightful to see things from the Russian perspective. Peace on Earth!

I love how Maya stops to give a bit of background to the topic before delving into it- this is so helpful for viewers that may not be completely up to speed with recent happenings. She's such a great interview, and you two have such a great dynamic. Side note: is Sofia and Sonia the same name in Russian? They seem to be used interchangeable

@dariakukhar1595

6 ай бұрын

Yes, Sofia is a full or official name, and Sonya or Sonechka is a shorter version, nick name, used in the family and unofficially. The same for Alexandra (official) and Sasha

@topicdel

6 ай бұрын

@@dariakukhar1595 Thank you!!

@cecile5090

6 ай бұрын

The pairs competition was spectacular. You just can’t beat Russian pairs. Mishina and Galiamov were perfection.❤⛸️❤️

@topicdel

6 ай бұрын

@@cecile5090 I agree, they were amazing. I liked the new pair too Osokina and her partner!

@cecile5090

6 ай бұрын

@@topicdelAgree!

A treat ! Thank you Dave !

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

I simply love Maya! She has spirit and sense of humor. This video was like a Christmas present to me. Thanks a lot.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

With regards to pairs - I would add more on the potential couples like Slusarenko's teams. Especially the couples, which Artemieva and Brukhanov. Their LP was the best among all other pairs, including the top two. It was not 100% perfect technically but overall it is very well composed and their performance was very good. Also I would expect Khabibulina and Knyazhuk to become stronger as their are already being noticed by judges, and if they hadn't made mistakes, they would have bronze. I love their short program with the tango, it is absolute pleasure! Russian ice dance or rather Santa Barbara on ice is heartbreaking because ever since potential pairs were sacrificed so that Eteri's daughter could go to the Olympics, there has been utter chaos. Out of all couples on the ice today my main interest lies with yesterday's juniors - Leontieva and Gorelkin. They obviously have a long road ahead but I really do see potential at least because after watching 4 incredibly dull Zhulin pairs, it was so refreshing to see someone who actually wanted to ice dance). Unfortunately they are from Zhuk and Svinin and since the federation does not value them, it will be taught for them but hopefully they can make it to the top 5 at least. I also see that a lot of people and surprisingly the judges have faith in the new Havronina and Nerizhny couple. While I love Irina as a skater but hate her for betraying Dario, I do believe this pair has a quick expiration date as soon as David is not interested in her romantically. So unless somehow Valéry and Vasilisa can reunite, I do not see anyone being even potentially able to have a good result internationally when Russians can compete again. My happiness came finally true when Anya Frolova and Ksusha Sinitsina were finally scored seemingly high. I love Frolova's Georgian tango program, it brings me to tears. Ksusha's samba program is a joy and stands out so much from all the other Roxannes. Hopefully, justice prevails and Frolova and Sinktsina can skate internationally and these are the ladies which can proudly represent Russian school of figure skating. For years now I have been looking forward to watching the men's event. Because I an always intrigued, I love that everyone is so different with different and actually interesting programs which fits their personalities. Yes, Aliev is Russian soul on ice, Samarin is a tin man but with the best ice dance 80s theme program, Semenenko is not just another boy from Mishin camp, Dikidhzhi has great flexibility and lightness to his jumps but needs to add emotion to presentation. Petya is clearly a genius and both programa show that. It is a pure joy to watch men today). P. S. Tarasova was great, she gave it to everyone who deserves the critics. I wanted to applaud every single comment on ice dance, especially on Shanaeva who acts like she is top 1,when she skates much worse than a year ago... She skates like me, a person who has a lot of charisma but is terrified of ice and thus has wooden legs. Or as Dave would say a villager on ice who is coming to the city.

Maya is a fantastic guest. I hope to see her in another video soon!

Dave, Jonathan is my #1 cohost but pleeeeease Have Maya on when he’s not available! Maya!!!! You are the best guest TSL has ever had! Come on more often!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

I do my best!

Thank you so much, very interesting conversation!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you for this! And again thank you for Maya - not had the chance to catch up with Russian Nationals - so grateful for Maya’s insight and yes, loves she gives a bit of background to the subjects of the conversations thanks again ❤

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yes, We love Tuktamisheva here. Followed her since 2012-2013 Europeans. She was wanderfull even at her lowest, and her love for the sport and the healthy mindset towards it. She openly speaks about a lot of issues in it. And that girl deserves that Olympic spot, that medal. So we will again have a fully fledged adult woman skater medaling. And Kostornaya, I sincerely want her to win Russian Pair nationals in 2-3 yrs, or another countries, do not care. I want her at the Olympics being shady on Eteri. Sincerely, she deserves. For Kamila, I support her to get out of Tutbertize's and systemic abuse, it is clearly she faced a lot of abuse, with or without knowing she was dru*ged.

You're right Dave. Kostornaia and Liza are our queens. They have personalities! I'll continue to follow Kostornaia and her hubby with great interest!

I love Maya and the interaction between you and her.

Thank you!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

I really like hearing Maya's description of what's going on. I hope she's on every month.

Thank you for covering Russian Nationals!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

🙏

So many people are being negative to this channel. Dave is carrying on a conversation and giving his opinion. This guest is giving great information and you can tell a lot of time and energy goes into these shows. Keep it up Dave and Co.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Dave is such a joy of a person. I don't know if this is true, but every time I listen to him I think of him as just this little happy boy running around with joy. Such a pure heart he has and I wish him all the best in life and so much success.❤

I, too, watched Russian nationals mostly for Kostornaia. I also wanted to see Daniil Samsonov! I truly have missed his skating. Of the Russian men, he is who I would love for see in the international mix.

I don't know if I'm the only one but I feel like Adelia has great music (Voila, The Locked Room, and her 2023-2024 free program) but something missing in the choreography and there is room for improvement in her artistry which I think she should prioritize more than quads as I'm a little worried about her health. I love her 2023-2024 free program costume btw (and maybe a change in her Voila costume)

I too only watched Russian Nationals because of Kostornaia

Nice to see Maya again!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

More to come!

No shade to any of the other TSL guests, but Maya is next level. So good. I had no interest watching Russian Nationals but this was a great recap. Appreciate it.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

❤️❤️

Gummenik’s FP and Aliev’s SP were the best moments of the championships (and Gummenik’s SP and the entire men’s free skate from prior championships were crazy too). Honorable mentions to Mozalev.

Thank you Maya for your perspective! I really appreciate how you draw things back to the actual skating (Alissa too when she's on). So much lately there has been too much talk of drama and personalities and other random stuff that has nothing to do with skating. Have found this on TSL live too, so I'm super grateful to Maya and Alissa and some of the other guests for steering the conversation a bit. Dave I really appreciate all you do, but some of these tangents are just exhausting, and I feel like I'm hearing the same stories over and over again (ice baths, vaganova, Barbara Streisand etc - like they're interesting for a quick minute, but I feel like I'm hearing about them over and over for weeks, and often there's little mention of the actual skating from that week). Anyway, Merry Christmas everyone, hope you have a lovely holiday season!

@angelalaurent2324

6 ай бұрын

This segment really made me miss Jonathan. The "random stuff" is what keeps it fun and interesting. Maya does not really have a sense of humor, and she is all business, and sometimes a little antagonistic. I don't think Dave goes on "tangents", and they are far from exhausting. It's nice to hear what is going on in his life, and he keeps things fun and interesting!

@eljj7968

6 ай бұрын

@@angelalaurent2324 I wouldn't mind once in a while, but have heard the same stories so many times. I love Jonathan! Also miss him when he's not there, but it's nice to have the guests too (although I prefer when it's both Dave and Johnathan and the guest).

❤❤❤ love russian nationals. Curious if they give Valieva a 2-year ban if it will be retroactive from the date of the Olympics so therefore she can continue competing going forward, but that any medals she had in the interim will taken. So sad, that girl is beyond talented but she is struggling with her weight and her height, she definitely needs to cut a little weight, not emaciated, but just some so that she can move more freely on the ice. She looks labored in her movements right now but they still look so beautiful even if it's more difficult for her with the extra height and weight. I still say it I've never seen a skater like her that looks like a prima ballerina, rhythmic gymnast, and modern dancer in one. She is no doubt extremely gifted with bodily movements and has incredible control of her core, extensions, body lines. Stunning girl

@QQ-wl6yt

6 ай бұрын

Definitely on point with the lines… she reminds me of Irina Tchachina (look her up ❤️‍🔥)

@primalcritters

5 ай бұрын

​@@QQ-wl6ytwill do! Russian ballet training pays off

@primalcritters

5 ай бұрын

​@@QQ-wl6ytwill do. Kamila is an absolute Prodigy in my eyes and her body lines are unparalleled. Stunning

Yess I’m so glad Maya is back to talk RusNats! My fav guest!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Maya is a treasure! Put her in the thumbnail next time! I see her, I click 👍 She should not worry about her English - it is superb!

I really appreciate Mayas perspective! She seems very fair and knowledgeable in her opinions and helps us see the Russians as acutal human athletes, not just puppets in drama. I like yours ans Jonathan's show Dave, but honestly, you could learn from Maya to focus more on actual scating and appreciation of the sport instead of too much drama and speculation. I myself am East European and sometimes feel your very American way of viewing the world lacks some balance and your stereotypes of Russians and - sorry - sometimes misogyny (you judge the young young girls character way more harshly than the men) gets in the way of enjoying skating. I hope you can see that as feedback, as I really appreciate you covering the sport I love and enjoy your guys podcast. I just think you could improve!

@glacierglider8893

6 ай бұрын

I am American but just hearing her say so many people didn't even believe he should cover Russian skating I get so mad that I had to wait and come back to it because I am so sick of the anti-Russian hate and how it's so accepted in America and most cannot even answer basic questions on the conflict over there. It's so hypocritical from a country supplying bombs to multiple countries (and so much more) I could really go into the how and the who that did everything behind the scenes since 2014 that led to this but no one cares about facts they just want to hate Russians. The ISU never should have done this and they showed that they aren't an "international" agency at all because if they were, they would be having to ban at least a few more countries. They will likely delete my comment or block me for saying this much. Cannot lay out the facts for the reasons I find this anti-Russian stance so hypocritical. I am glad they covered it, and I think she does a great job, but honestly, I would rather just watch her. I am super supportive of Russian figure skating and anymore I don't trust these so-called international agencies like the ISU or WADA because they aren't non-biased or objective. I don't trust that they are not used for political purposes. It's amazing the trust people have in them. Anyway, I haven't watched this podcast in forever for many reasons but she is great and for that I am glad to see her.

@KS-lp3ui

6 ай бұрын

​@@glacierglider8893 I think more skating fans are anti-Russia due to doping than due to the war. Yes, the ban is officially due to the war, but to many fans the ban feels like a small bit of justice for the systemic doping.

@glacierglider8893

6 ай бұрын

@KS-lp3ui that may be true. However, Russia is banned because of the war and not for doping. For the ISU to ban Russia over Ukraine shows, they aren't really an international agency, but one that makes political decisions that make no sense. How can you ban Russia when it was Ukraine that broke the 2 peace agreements since the 2014 coup? ISU has some explaining to do on how the US isn't banned or Ukraine. When the ISU bans for doping then a conversation can be had but that isn't why Russia is banned.

@elenamastiukova2787

6 ай бұрын

@@KS-lp3uiI ‘m sorry, how many Russian skaters have been systematically doping? You make it sound like more skaters were caught several times. Well, they weren’t. Even Kamilla’s test was not consistent with systematic use. And it is the first in Tutberidze team in over 10 years. Yet the entire national team has been banned.

@KS-lp3ui

6 ай бұрын

@@elenamastiukova2787 Russia has not been allowed to compete under their country name/flag for the past several summer and winter Olympics due to proven state-sponsored, systematic doping in multiple Olympic sports. Given this backdrop, systematic doping in Russian figure skating does not need to be proven in order to be very reasonably suspected by objective people.

I like Adeliia in terms of artistry but the height and distance of her jumps are really small, her jumps (especially her quads) don’t even seem like fully rotated tbh

@elenamastiukova2787

6 ай бұрын

Adelia is right now the most technically equipped female skater in the world, even with a loss of triple axel. Who else has 2 or 3 quads in free program? As for their quality, I heard Tarasova commenting that they are very well delivered.

@sirena3470

6 ай бұрын

@@elenamastiukova2787 Tarasova is extremely biased, I don’t trust her opinions. She also praised the horrendous jumping technique of Medvedeva in the past 😆 The quality of jumps is not only determined by the number of rotations. Height and distance as well as the speed of entry to the jumps are also important factors and Adeliia is really weak in those areas. Especially when you compare her jumps to skaters like Akateva, Trusova and Zhilina, Adeliia’s jumps are really small and they don’t seem impressive at all. It’s too bad that Akateva and Zhilina are out because of injury, they are much better jumpers than Adeliia. I hope they will recover and return soon

Merry Christmas, Karen Chen.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

I think, that the reason Eteri is taking a step back (if you want to call it this way), is because it is “back to drawing board” for her. I will explain: her whole technique so far was based on the almost assembly line of girls, peaking at 15-16 years old and holding on top for 1-2 seasons. More over, they had similar body types, because the technique was designed to accommodate particular figure. Except Trusova, who is muscular and reminiscent of Lisa T. But now the age limitation was lifted, and the girls will only be allowed to compete in adults starting at 17. That means, that her whole technique now only works for junior world, and who cares about it? Therefore, they really have to go to squire one and re-work everything. Don’t you think? Adult female bodies cannot do 4 quads, even one 3A took Lisa years yo return after she grew! I really think that’s the reason Eteri is less active, not loss of interest. And if you noticed, her focus already shifted. I know you do not appreciate Valieva, but she is now within the “two years of change”, and when (and if) she exits that time, with her talent she might once again succeed. Because she, just like Trusova, was built differently. But unlike Trusova she is also incredibly artistic and expressive…

@EvaMasters-oo2bu

6 ай бұрын

Eteri is less active because there are no international competitions and skaters and coaches are less motivated. The top government sponsored jobs and top publicity, money front shows, etc. for retired skaters go to Olympic champions, which currently is off the table. In general, putin has a policy to award international medals, especially Olympic, it is part of his narrative on Greater Slavic world vs the Anglo-Saxons (this is what he divides the white race into, claiming that ruzzia should have dominion over, as it did during the Soviet era.) You can be sure that the moment international competitions become open for russian skaters, Eteri will be back with the same single-minded greed for medals.

@Nina77774

6 ай бұрын

I am not arguing the truth of this “generally accepted” statement, just wound line to bring something else to the table. That is only logical to take into account as well.

Maya is absolutely fantastic.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 ай бұрын

💯

Gosh Maya's English accent sounds so similar to Elena Bechke! Wonderful video Dave P!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😃

Dave, please copy Maya's "recaps for those who didn't watch it". I know when it comes to russian skating less people may be willing to watch, but it does sometimes happen too for other competitions, and the mental note of "oh, they are talking about the 4th place finisher in this discipline" is really helpful.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

I am not sure what you are asking me. I apologize.

@QQ-wl6yt

6 ай бұрын

@@TheSkatingLessonif I may, in regular Dave-Jonathan episodes, you guys tend to barely refer to somebody quickly in passing and maybe even only on a first name basis, and then proceed to just talk about a skater(s) only referred to by a pronoun for a good long while… it would be of great benefit to just note who you guys are talking about by maybe referring to their full name (and a bit of extra context if it’s a more esoteric name from 1990’s skating) once or twice more if you are going on about them… otherwise it’s not hard to lose oneself

As much a Dave normally loves to throw shade on the Russians, I always admire his appreciation for their love of the sport. Sadly, we Americans don't share the same love for the sport. And our stars don't seem to stick around the sport for very long which is why we're still in love with Zhenya, Alena, and Liza. Secondly, I have to mention how much I love the balance between Dave (pro-West) and Maya (pro-Russian)... because they appreciate each other's perspectives, and they have fun with the topics and can joke around with each other about things. It just goes to show that Russians and Americans can be friends and they don't have to go to war over everything lol

Great show. I was surprised you didn't spend more time on Tarasova's performance on commentary. I'm sorry, but she was just incredible. Pure, unfiltered queen energy. On the subject of chess ability; Anya Shcherbakova, I'm sure, would be a great chess player. Kostornaia? Absolutely not.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

The Hamptons is cold but we have THE SKATING LESSON so we are all happy and warm inside!

We do know and enjoy watching the other girls at Russian nationals, we just don't invest in them because what's the point? Rusfed is never going to allow them to leave the country over an Eteri skater. I'd personally pick any other girl because I do not find Petrosian enjoyable, charming, nor memorable in any way, shape, or form.

@AndrewSchwepps

6 ай бұрын

Root for Kaori and forget about rus skaters.

@dariakukhar1595

6 ай бұрын

Actually, Sofia Samodelkina, with 5 ultra C jumps left Rusfed to compete for Kazakhstan this summer. The rumor goes, she did it without obtaining initial confirmation from Kazakhstan Federation. Her mom was born in Kazakhstan, and based on that she could get Kazakh passport. Also, I believe she won 2021 Denis Chen Tournament in Kazakhstan so there seems a long history. She is a very strong athlete and Tarasova was really sorry that Russia lost her.

@kcesca

6 ай бұрын

​@@AndrewSchweppsI do, and have, rooted for Kaori since she was a jnr, but this is a video about Russian skaters

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

@@AndrewSchwepps Kaori is an illegitimate 2-time world champion because she would've never been even close to be medaled if Russian girls had participated- it's like a theft , but the history of mankind has always been the Kaori -like way as usual

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

@@kcesca Kaori is like a thief who owns titles she never deserved at the absence of the strongest competitors

"Go say 'hola' to Olivia!" 🤣 I'm willing to bet my Duolingo Spanish is better than Olivia's! 😁

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Kamilla's scores are questionable. It seems as if the judges are carrying her to send a message, despite her skating content not holding up

@TheEmmaSmith

6 ай бұрын

your parents should have used a condom

@curseknight5

6 ай бұрын

i knew i would find our grand prix live chatters here :) happy holidays to you!

@etherealtb6021

6 ай бұрын

What made Kamila unique and special will always be there. If we only could get her away from the kicking choreography!

@Jeremy-wp4yh

6 ай бұрын

@@curseknight5 happy holidays to you too.

@Jeremy-wp4yh

6 ай бұрын

@@etherealtb6021 the young skaters are taught the same 😂. Petrosian is also kicking.

@theskatinglesson - can you repost the video of the Russian (language) lesson with Tarasova? I’ve looked for it a couple of times but can’t seem to find it now

Could have listened to Maya for another 2 hours.

@alexac3098

6 ай бұрын

I said that the last time she was on!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

I am surprised you didn’t talk about Daria Sadkova at all, she is a new Eteri girl and she landed a 4T at the Rusnats this year

@dokkerdam3844

6 ай бұрын

yes. i posted this before i saw your comment. kostornaia didn't have a quad or even the triple axel when she was fifteen like daria. if eteri doesn't break her soon she might surpass all of them for technical and more importantly artistic/dance/performance. could someone tell me if and when they discuss Daria Sadkova? i honestly can't stand listening to this for 2 hours without graphics or chapters. I think Sadkova could be as good as Kostornaia was when she won Europeans. She and her program were the best there has ever been (Valieva is a more comprehensive technical skater but she can't hold a candle to Kostornaia's artistry and performance skills). though i'm happy Kostornaia is competing i think she made a mistake returning in pairs. She more than anyone could have revived interest in ice dance now that Vasilisa K. changed partners and has missed the season. and do they talk about the missing injured skaters: Sofia Akateva and Anastasia Zinnina?

I like Kamila's gala.

I agree Dave... there is no way Kamila is coming back to the international circuit in this condition. She won't get those kinds of scores from an international judging panel. Also... It opens up to way too much criticism to what her skating looks like without doping.

@elenamastiukova2787

6 ай бұрын

Her skating has changed because she has grown taller and hit puberty. If you consider it to be the effect of doping… well, that’s on you😂😂 And even in her new mature body she is amazing, she still does quads, even though she has to struggle for them. Her short program is incredible and she performs it flawlessly. No one comes close. Sure, her international reputation has been damaged, but she is still an incredible athlete and a fighter.

could someone tell me if and when they discuss Daria Sadkova? i honestly can't stand listening to this for 2 hours without graphics or chapters. I think Sadkova could be as good as Kostornaia was when she won Europeans. She and her program were the best there has ever been (Valieva is a more comprehensive technical skater but she can't hold a candle to Kostornaia's artistry and performance skills). though i'm happy Kostornaia is competing i think she made a mistake returning in pairs. She more than anyone could have revived interest in ice dance now that Vasilisa K. changed partners and has missed the season. and do they talk about the missing injured skaters: Sofia Akateva and Anastasia Zinnina?

I so wish a good Russian pairs coach would come to the US and train our pairs. The Russian pairs are so much better than the rest of the world, even the Chinese.

@QQ-wl6yt

6 ай бұрын

The issue with the sorry state of US Skating is not a lack of coaches, but rather a late capitalist stage where the sport is commodified and practically exclusively reserved for nepo prodigies whose families can contemplate forking over a blank check with no guarantees. There needs to be public funding for sports (like the cohost explained is the case in Russia, as in many other countries) for athletes with potential to develop.

@ArohaStill

6 ай бұрын

Well you do remember that Moskvina and others were in the US and she certainly helped.people.with packaging and mindset but there just are not enough people training as pairs from a young age, especially boys. Skating in the US is expensive and now there are so few shows or post-amateur opportunities, so hard to get families to invest. Russian pairs have so much speed and balletic qualities that require intense training from a young age. China copied the system and it worked but the US doesnt put enough money into the sport and hard to justify in it's current state. It's a pity because the ISU needs US criticism to keep the European bloc from systemic collusion.

@ivanpavlov3614

5 ай бұрын

Не дождётесь, как-нибудь сами

Listening to this again 😊 4:30 Dave will surely upset some people with this comment about the war, but I agree. This is a culture of instant outrage, but people will go back to their ways when the knee jerk reaction subsides. Compassion is fleeting in the self-centeredness 17:16 Yes! Would love to see Zhenya rise up in the Russian media. Dave already said she out-Eteried Eteri in the 2022 Russian nationals. Love the Empress and her resilience and the drama Kostornia brings

Maya is a real class act to point out that Evgenia is better than the superficial trappings of a fur coat and a car with a driver.

Hi, can someone fill me in… how is Maya B. connected to the skating world? Is she a journalist? I’ve been somewhat out of the loop in the skating world recently and wasn’t familiar with her name so just wondered! She has interesting and great insights.

@krobill2

6 ай бұрын

I particularly agreed with her nice words about Anna Frolova. Anna is such a fantastic skater and I just love to watch her skating.

@eljj7968

6 ай бұрын

yes she's a journalist. And based outside of Russia, so she has a bit more freedom in terms of what she can say.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Maya is a very well-known journalist of figure skating, especially Russian figure skating. She has also made it a specialty to do very fair interviews with people from the West.

@krobill2

6 ай бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson thanks for the reply! This is the first interview I’ve heard on TSL with her and I’m now a huge fan of hers. She’s very good at raising different and interesting perspectives on complex issues. Well done to you both!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Maya has been on about 3 times now. She has also interviewed me. @@krobill2

Just another correction of wrong assumption: Adeliia "lost 3A" because she was ill shortly before nationals and couldn't train for some time. Not because "growth, puberty" or whatever else you like to put.

@user-uj5xy7sm6p

5 ай бұрын

Этери, мы вас узнали.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 ай бұрын

She has struggled with 3A consistency for more than a year.

I enjoy Ksenia. I love Frolova. I would trade Sofia and Delia for Liza and Maya on most days. I care more about Japan and Korean juniors than I do Russian seniors.

How do I watch Russian nationals from the USA? I can’t find any vpn providers that will do Russia

@emilymclane5965

6 ай бұрын

FYI figured it out. Lmk if anyone else needs help!

@Amy-bl8sp

6 ай бұрын

Russia Channel One allows viewers from a few other countries. My VPN has Lithuania and it worked for me. I heard Georgia will work too but I don't have that available on my VPN.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

www.sport1tv.ru/sport/chempionat-rossii-po-figurnomu-kataniyu-2024/korotkaya-programma

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

You don't have to - just enjoy fake Kaori-style champions

"say hola to olivia" 💀

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

i enjoyed this recap way more than the little bit of the actual competition that i watched....found it super hard to get through, the programs are so uninspired and a lot of the skaters dont even have the athleticism that allowed people to overlook their programs/skating skills before... it had an extra depressing vibe this year (in the womens competition)

I wish there was a way to watch all the Russian nationals. I found some of it on KZread but could find the mens at all and the women’s FS.

@user-xw9wq6or2y

6 ай бұрын

Try channel one’s website

this channel does not understand kamila valieva: kamila was the greatest skater the world has ever seen. she was 15 years old when this doping incident started. she is innocent either way because either it is accidental contamination or it was deliberate but only deliberate on behalf of the adults who control her so as a child she is innocent in either case. she was tortured and lost an olympics she easily would have won without the psychological stress. her 2022 national championship was taken away and that was the best performance in history. imagine how she feels. she has grown dramatically in two years and yet still manages to do a quad beautifully in warm up and last year did two of the best quads ever in the 2023 russian nationals in truman show. give her credit. i still see the most elegant skater in the world admirably adapting to body changes and there still is no one like her. she has demonstrated perseverance, courage, and a love for her sport. the world will always cheer for her, even if the haters on this channel will not.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

thanks for watching

@mariaritapieraccini3501

6 ай бұрын

Whar's the matter Dave, don't want to hear the truth?@@TheSkatingLesson

@ArohaStill

6 ай бұрын

Kamila is not the greatest female skater of all time. There are a long list of ladies who were better than her who had beautiful programs, clean jumps, artistic expression and spins and they did it without grandpa's drugs. Think Michelle, Sasha, Mao, Yuna, sea of American women from the latter half of the last century and a sea of Japanese champions who have beautiful knees and clean edges.Kamila, whether forced to take the drugs or not is not innocent. This is not a question of her character as a 15 year old. The fact is and was that she was competing as a cheater. The drugs were in her system. Aside from her flexibility, which wasn't always used well or controlled is not the only thing that makes a great skater. Sasha Cohen had perfect extension and it was used beautifully and she created signature moves. She was a real.ballerina on ice. Michelle Kwan is one of the greatest artists to be on ice with pure edges and jumps. Kim Yuna, Midori Ito and a sea of Japanese women have been better jumpers and did it while clean and had pure edges going in and out of those jumps. Kamila hurls herself into the air and cannot actually land a combination without adjusting after the first jump and using her arms to stabilize herself. Her skating has never been beautiful. I feel sorry for Kamila that her federation keeps making her lie and arev dragging her case for years and her own country men discuss her weight etc. The Russian federation should be ashamed. But again, Kamila is not the best at anything other than kicking her leg up after jumps and at an awkward side angle, not behind her. Sorry.

@cecile5090

6 ай бұрын

@@ArohaStillYou are 💯 right. Sasha, Michelle, and Yuma were all much more beautiful skaters. I like Medvedeva and Zagitova better than Valieva.

I’m super curious to know what Maya thinks happened with Kamila’s doping. She’s obviously a very smart person who is able to take multiple perspectives into account when assessing a situation. So I doubt she accepts the grandpa story, nor the evil Western media conspiracy. Yet she appears to believes that Kamila is a victim. Does she think Eteri is responsible for doping Kamila, perhaps without Kamila’s knowledge? Or the state? Also curious to know what Kamila herself thought back then, and what she thinks now.

Will Tuktamysheva have a triple axel and other jumps in a year to send her to the World or European Championships? that is the question.. The main reason why foreigners want to see Tuktamysheva from our country at the world championships is that she can be defeated, she is not the strongest in the world... this is very beneficial for them)

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

Westerners have always been known for this kind of tricks- just read their history

@christinethorp3684

6 ай бұрын

Foreigners want to see Tuktamysheva because we feel like we know her. She's a "friendly Russian." Liza has earned respect from fans around the world for her staying power, and mature outlooks on life and sport. Wanting to see her back at international competitions has nothing to do with "defeating the lone Russian," as you imply. Besides, who else would you send out there? Petrosian will have to grow soon, one would think, and will have to struggle through that process. Not to mention, those quads aren't clean. Kamila? Not an option, for so many reasons. Muravieva? Seems mentally fragile. Not sure she could stand up to the pressure to go out and secure that second quota. Looking down the line, no one else has an ultra-C to make them stand out in international events. So yeah, that leaves Tuktamysheva. Send us Liza, please.

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

@@christinethorp3684 You are just as joke as Tukramisheva, and your fake champions like Sakamoto or Hendricks who have recieving medals without competing with the best Russians , you are a joke 🤣

@user-ld6hp2fm3r

6 ай бұрын

@@christinethorp3684 take it away for good.

@christinethorp3684

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ld6hp2fm3r Take WHAT away? Any interest the rest of the world has in Russian skaters? It would be helpful if your biased comments at least made sense.

Майя, спартакиада это не от Спартака, это от греческого города Спарта.

@user-ld6hp2fm3r

6 ай бұрын

@@user-lr5zn3gy4u не знаю, раньше так объясняли это понятие.

@junglesuperstar9270

5 ай бұрын

@@user-ld6hp2fm3rи в каких таких местах это объясняли ?

@user-ld6hp2fm3r

5 ай бұрын

@@junglesuperstar9270 ещё в советское время.. в СМИ.

У ведущего все мысли только об Этери.. что, давно не писала тебе, Dave?)

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

Так это аферисты

@ivanpavlov3614

5 ай бұрын

😅😂😂

I know that by the rules, the Russians should only have one entry per discipline when they come back - but are we sure this will absolutely happen? I have a feeling/fear the ISU might just say Eh to the whole thing, forgive and forget the ban and let them go right back to three.

@jamiejoonks

6 ай бұрын

im sure the isu would love to do that but theyd have to piss off every other federation thats been holding down the sport for the last 2 years almost. So im sure they will just allow them back with 1 spot and let them earn more themseleves.

@elenamastiukova2787

6 ай бұрын

I doubt ISU would overlook their own ban so easily. And yes, they don’t want to piss off other countries who in the absence of the leaders managed to finally claim some medals. If Russians come back they will complete dominate pairs and probably female podium.

Ill be honest aliona kostornaia was the only skater that made watching rusnats interesting in the 2018-2021 seasons

I love Shcherbakova ❤

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

❤️❤️

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

Yes, she got her most important title due to Kamila's collapse in LP - Shcherbakova is a fake champion as well as Sakamoto is a fake bronze medalist

Соme back Medvedevu!! Medvedeva beautiful figure skating

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Her back is far too injured :(

@veragorchenina5123

6 ай бұрын

​​@@TheSkatingLessoninvite to an ice show!! This ast will put Tutberidze in his plase!This ast will put Zagitova and Rottenberg his place.

@sirena3470

6 ай бұрын

@@veragorchenina5123sure, Alina Zagitova, who is the Olympic Champion, World Champion, European Champion, GPF Champion and Russian Champion would be “put in her place” if Floopzgenia Medvedeva was invited to an ice show 😂😂😂

@veragorchenina5123

6 ай бұрын

@@sirena3470 Zagitova nomerler Rottenberg!

Did Eliza retire? 😢. Did we think Valieva long program music was appropriate for her?

@ardillachica9037

6 ай бұрын

Re Liza: Not officially. She said she wasn't motivated to compete due to the lack of international events and was choosing to take the season off. Whether she comes back or not is up in the air. I doubt she will if the Russians aren't allowed back into international comps. At 27yo she's probably better off doing shows rather than trying to keep up with quad jumping teenagers.

@alexac3098

6 ай бұрын

If Russians are not allowed back next season, Liza is finished.

@iamsoverybored878

6 ай бұрын

​@ardillachica9037 She looks good with the blond hair. Whoever did it did a nice job it looks natural, unlike Eteri and her yellowed over processed hair.

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

@@ardillachica9037 It's good if Russians aren't allowed - then you continue to have Kaori-like illegitimate champions

@michaelmichael9546

6 ай бұрын

@@alexac3098 Good news if Russians aren't allowed - you will continue to cheer fake champions like Kaori

David Su bist großartig , für jeden Skate Interessierten ein Absolutes muß diese wunderbaren Vlogs zu schauen Du und Maya großartig ich hoffe wir sehen Sie öfter Also ich bin als Österreicherin und auch wie Du ein Riesen Fan von Aliona Kostarnaia schon viele Jahre Sie ist außergewöhnlich schön ,stark, intelligent ,und nicht auf den Mund gefallen Sie traut sich auch Mißstände , auch mit der früheren Arbeit mit Tuberitze anzusprechen niemand traut sich Sonst in Russland darüber zu sprechen. Bravo Zu Ihrem free Programm ich liebe dieses Programm“ Hunger Games „ außergewöhnlich wie Aliona, frisch ,jung anders Ich glaube es ist einfach Geschmackssache.

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

I think this program would make them seem more sophisticated: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iomf18ppaZbHgso.htmlsi=_8pOQFtysjRucxMO

Can someone please explain what they mean by saying Russians have a quarter…does that mean they will be able to send one skater to next year worlds?!

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Quota. They would be allowed to send 1 skater to Europeans and Worlds if allowed back (instead of 3).

@megansyed7662

6 ай бұрын

@@TheSkatingLessonwhy only 1? How is that possible considering before the ban their skaters were always on the podium?

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

Because slots are determined by rankin gs at the previous year's world championships. They haven't been able to compete at Worlds and will have to earn those spots back according to the rules.@@megansyed7662

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

When the U.S. doesn't earn three spots, no one cares that they used to dominate singles. It is what it is. The same is true for Russia after they have not been allowed to compete. @@megansyed7662

@megansyed7662

6 ай бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson I don’t know all the rules. lol Appreciate you explaining everything :)

Finnally is about skating again. And not all this boring doping - tutberidze - russia bashing stuff. The 3 medalists of the Men`s were amazing (best was Petr Gumenik). Women without Liza and Agatjeva was a bit boring. Anyway you can see , how important it is to have the russians back. at the moment we only have one very good russian skater " The Quad God" Илья Малинин.

A village skater trying to get to the city …. That is hilarious

@TheSkatingLesson

6 ай бұрын

😆

Dave was frankly bored while Maya enthusiastically described Dikidzhi to him... it’s clear to him that this guy is not at all interesting... Dave is only interested in what concerns Eteri )

Guys why the hell are you discussing russian competitions? 😂😂😂

@d.n.8919

5 ай бұрын

Because they have lots of drama.

@user-zi2sx2pp3c

5 ай бұрын

​@@d.n.8919, потому что вам не интересны ваши соревнования и ваши фигуристы, они никчемные. Поэтому вы лезете со своим длинным носом в российский спорт. Отстаньте, нам и без вас очень хорошо, и безумно интересно.

@CarmenRosaMarisolZoila

4 ай бұрын

Because that is the best figure skating tour in the world. It’s top of the top. Everyone cares about the Russian Nationals. It’s above the figure skating olympics. Way above