I'm loving the mid-Worlds This and That. Great work, Dave!👐

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Loved seeing Megan back. Always appreciate her thoughts. This is the only way we can get her commentary. Glad to see Riku & Ryuichi and Alexa & Brandon on the top of the podium.

Always great to see Meagan and her knowledge and enthusiasm for all things pairs ❤

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

We agree!

This is what I would love to hear in figure skating commentary. Growth areas. Analysis of what judges value and why someone was ahead of someone else. Megan did an amazing job of sharing WHY is skating so uniform.

Really love it when you have Megan on - lots of in depth analysis of the skating - more Megan more often, please! 😊

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

You got it!

I adore Megan - what a coach she is/will be

Meagan is so thoughtful and insightful. I feel like I learn more about skating from her and I appreciate her honesty as well.

Ooooo Meghan wondering what it’s like to be lifted by such a strong partner (not how she words it exactly) is top tier Canadian shade and also VALID bc it makes such a huge difference. Night and day. Dave’s face while she’s expressing this (very valid) sentiment says it all👏

@insi4547

Жыл бұрын

bitter mean girl that's all she is lol

@Yellowducky665

Жыл бұрын

I’m so confused- does she have beef with Eric?

@My-hat

Жыл бұрын

@@Yellowducky665 I can’t remember exactly but they retired to do shows and he went behind her back and didn’t tell her about wanting to partner with Vanessa so they lost lots of money and opportunities. I think he was the one who wanted to retire first / more then Meghan anyway then did a u turn. It was the fact others knew before her or something about him going back to comps / new partner. Along those lines?.

@insi4547

Жыл бұрын

@yellowducky101 Meghan got pregnant, so they were 'on a break'. and whatever they had discussed about shows is irrelevant as Eric wanted more than just shows - he wanted to compete. Which he eventually & luckily did. With Vanessa.👏

Yay! I'm loving this. Meagan is so great at explaining skating to lay people like myself.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

The best!

A lovely surprise. I love whenever Megan is on..She clearly loves her sport...I respect her opinion and learn a lot when she tweets or is on TSL. TY.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Was not expecting this today, love your recaps!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Fantastic analysis. I love how you discussed in detail the strengths and weaknesses of the top pairs in such a fair manner.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Good point Megan made re the person who runs the technical committee for pairs and singles was not even ever a figure skater. Lots of good points made by all of you throughout this recap. Love you as a trio - thank you!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Alexa and Brandon definitely could have repeated as champions with one fewer mistake, but they were very impressive and handled themselves beautifully in the absence of their coaches all month. Overall they have the best elements, their twist and throws were stronger than ever here, and I find their free skate most effective, they just needed one fewer error. Miura/Kihara are great but scored too high. That was far from a personal best free skate and Ryuichi was the first one to say it. But both teams had mistakes, and M/K’s clean short won it for them. It was a great and intense competition between these two top pairs, we need more matchups between them. Alexa should really stay, she’s on a new level lately.

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't come back to a field of drugged up Russians. This world's was beautiful and real competition

Loved this, you two with Meagan is always a treat, such great discussion. My moment of the week has to be the Japanese Short & them winning, just so proud of them but also Lia & Trennt their future looks so bright.

Agree that Alexa on the throws has gotten even better. She's always had a tiny jerk on her landings, but here they were so smooth.

Riku miura and Ryuichi kihara , winning the gold medal 🥇, was the best in this years Wolds... It was so well deserved 👏👏

Agree on the double axel moment with the Italians. I was so impressed by her ability to wait and then nail the second axel with him in perfect synch like nothing had happened. Re: the program composition, I do get annoyed by lifts bunched up back-to-back. I'm super impressed with Lia and Trennt. She's a star, just in the way she moves and her solidness, and how well she keeps the emotion through the skate, and he's a really strong partner. No shade to Evelyn in particular, but this is a much stronger pair. I like Emily and Spencer. They emote really well and I find them very elegant. I do see what you mean though about not quite gelling yet as a team. I do like Ellie and Danny too - I think she moves so well. We can't forget how young she is. If he's willing to wait a couple of years I do think they could be really good.

Thanks for the World's specials! And having Meghan is the cherry on top!

For some strange reason, the algorithms of KZread never notify me when you guys post a new video. I always have to search. Now that I searched, I’m in heaven over watching Meagan and the Pairs recap. Willlisten to this right now…. Thanks for always having Meagan on. I love her honesty!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Click the bell for notifications!

I love Megan’s interviews!! And her assessment of Spencer is 💯

You guys are on it🥰 always love Meagan!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

Listening to this again after the premiere ended! I enjoy listening to Meagan's insights

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

What a nice surprise mid-week! Thanks Dave and Jonathan!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

I loved the Japanese's free skate so much. I guess not everyone connected to it emotionally but I so did. I just love the heart they bring, (I also love Alexa and Brandon, but for different reasons. But the emotion and fluidity of the Japanese edges them out for me.)

@marikafasola8771

Жыл бұрын

emotions? they are so childish, they are laughing like idiots after the program ...

Can you guys try to use the skaters names more frequently? You name a pair and then talk for 15 minutes about “them” and it’s impossible to figure out who you’re talking about without starting over completely. I have to give up which sucks because you all have incredible insights! Don’t be afraid to use their names unless you just want it to be an “inside baseball” podcast. I’m at 36:50 and have no idea who you’ve been talking about for the past 10 minutes. When I skip back, it’s just more “them” and I don’t even know if it’s the same pair. What a mess😅 I’ll have to come back when I can watch without missing a single second but it should t be this much work. Maybe I’ll wait for a time stamp hero! But thanks Dave and Jonathan - I still watch every time and appreciate all you do to inform and entertain us ❤

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Will try our best.

@lc4822

Жыл бұрын

I'll echo this, I often get lost as well. Thanks for the early recap.

@kfo2520

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Thank you!! Regardless, Dave, you are a gift to KZread and you inspired me to take some skating lessons at my old age, so thank you again! I’d love to see more of your own skating journey…

@JohnnyOpera1

Жыл бұрын

We were talking about Spencer

@kfo2520

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyOpera1 Thank you so much! I’m going to rewatch later because I didn’t realize that but I did catch the part about skating with abandonment vs “unhinged” 🤣 I look forward to the rest of your World’s coverage!

3:30 the pressure definitely shows, even back in 2019 when Rika and Hanyu were heavy favorites. Maybe the culture also come into play here?

@mayamae55

Жыл бұрын

Culture? Sorry but I don’t appreciate the negative ring in your comment. What culture? Of course there would be a huge pressure to an athlete in any country if the sport is such a phenomenon and there’s huge media attention.

The Italian pair literally had a double twist and one triple throw last season, now that’s what I call stepping up to the occasion

@TheFlowMind

Жыл бұрын

From what I remember they were always behind the other Italian team. They really stepped up.

Thanks for such a wonderful commentary. Love Megan as always

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Love this so much - Meagan please run a new Pairs technical committee?!! ❤❤❤❤

Thanks for the shows I love this recaps discipline by discipline. Moment of the event, the German Pair long program such a good moment for them sadly that short didn't go that well too.

what a pleasent surprise! thank you

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Happy post Worlds. I am super excited for new programs. Coming up

So glad to see Megan again. Love the idea of an intellegent board working out what program components to work rather then unknowledgeble folk. There are promising pairs, but they need sane feedback.

Also next season Deanna should scrap the sal, and do a double axel double axel combo

35:40 Spencer is so much fun to watch, but Emily is so controlled. At least they look each other in the eye. Maybe Olga listened to your 4CC recap last year and sent them to lunch

@b.reamsnider1328

Жыл бұрын

Are they a couple?

@andreagoldstein4070

Жыл бұрын

@@b.reamsnider1328 no, he dates Gabby Izzo.

@b.reamsnider1328

Жыл бұрын

@@andreagoldstein4070 Thank you!

Hi, Dave! Hi, Jonathan! Hi, Meagan! You guys snuck one in before Worlds was over!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree on pairs spins the free program! I hate when pairs end with it.

Thanks for posting this!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

The Japanese team skated like a pair. Alexa and Brandon skate like two separate skaters

I would say Jamie and David’s 2002 long ending with the pairs spin worked well!

Great job, as always!!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Haha omg the "unhinged" moment, lmao

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Damage control!!

what is the new rule about combos? I don't know! thanks!

9:45 yeah figure skating values ease. We want it to be difficult but look easy. You can strain if the music calls for it but not too much.

Hmm, I don't agree from the spectator's point of view that everyone should be doing the double axel combo. I understand it makes sense point-wise, but I don't want to see everyone doing the same thing. I think it would be a shame if pairs stopped going for triple-triples because the double axel combo is worth the same.

What a treat!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Love, love, love Meagan!!!!

Great points about pair-skating, guys! So happy for Miura/Kihara for their first ever Grand Slam! The first Japanese pair team to ever win this, too. It seems like judges aren't even sure of their own rules, anymore. ISU needs to change if they want to bring back popularity to the sport, but they're still clinging to Russia for $$. Cheap bastards. To think that Russian federation members are allowed to watch Worlds 2023 as 'guests', too...ISU has indeed fallen to new lows. It's like Dick Button said, sending in the foxes to guard the henhouse. Disappointing. The doping saga should not be forgotten, nor should Russia be allowed back in.

Meagan is my favorite 💗

Great interview! Was hoping you would discuss the Georgian pair….

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

That was so sad. Poor Karina. Do you think the poor performance is an effect of no longer receiving the “medications” from Dr Shevetskty?

One of the few things I can think of know when she’s on is when Inman mimicked her fist pumping. 😂

Also appreciated the discussion of the Russian situation. They can’t be neutral by default. I also know I’m not the only one calling BS on the story of how Maiia got this wrist injury. I can’t be the only one wondering if the true story is actually something much darker…

Even before axel sequence BV change, pairs sbs has always been too heavy point wise considering this is pair discipline. Throws and twists should have more value. The BV decrease on quad twist and throws is a mistake orchestrated by Rusfed. It should be returned to what it was before their greedy manipulating hands done damage to pair elements.

@yohanes2034

Жыл бұрын

Like in the Olympic we have 3S-eu-3S with higher BV than lv4 quad twist. The math ain't mathing. This is pair discipline so the focus should be more on pair elements.

Can it be that Daniel is just a dumdum with a youngster's crush on Eteri (or maybe Sherbs?) :D

Yes! “ the Japanese let go together!” That’s it Megan. Thank you

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

I’m here for the speedy interview and commentary 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Shen Zhao used to perform their twist late in the free program

Should there be a level 5 for lifts? 🙂

(57:06) Questionable ages of Chinese athletes have been noted in track & field for decades. Hurdler Shi Dongpeng, who we thought was born in 1984, has recently been stripped of his 2002 world junior title after it was confirmed that he was actually two years older (and therefore a senior) at the time of that competition.

Always love when Meghan is on! Great conversation. I think the results were correct. Alexa & Brandon lost it in the short honestly.

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

They did well with everything going on. Nothing but praise for them!

So I'm actually still kinda salty Deanna didn't get on the podium (I know, I know, the Italians won fairly) I was rooting so hard for her throughout the season.

All for Ashley coming back if she is healthy to do so and would love to see her with Danny. But why no Timothy? They’re totally done with competing?

Many people have different, the sequel health problems after covid.... Some people get really sick, while others don't get sick at all ...

I find many decisions by the ISU baffling and self-destructive. Found the commentary re: Russian federation attendance and participation on point and timely.

Danny O'Shea and Ashley Cain partnership?

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

What do you think?

@dkeinow

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheSkatingLesson I am all for it. Danny's current partner can not keep up. She might be fired by Danny's father soon anyway

@Melissa-yr7fm

Жыл бұрын

@@dkeinow Ashley could keep up in training, however, I’m not sure she has a top-tier competitor’s mind. I could be way off. Maybe with the right partner and situation she’d do great.

@oliviarose1313

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson I think it could be interesting.

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

Due to her history of apparent concussions, I think it is unlikely Ashley Cain would go back to competitive skating. The image of her laying injured on the ice at 2022 Worlds haunts me. 😢

Dave, who is the skater on the picture behind you? Is that Toller?

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

John Curry

I too LOVED the Japanese short program music.

Do you happen to know what the Japanese (both as fans and federation) think of Russian doping and Eteri and her pals situation? And what the feds think of them being overtly present at the competition? Don’t they stand to gain a medal if scores are dropped? I just don’t understand how all the federations, usa, Canada, Japan aren’t making a united stand. Or is it going on behind the scenes? Surely if those big 4 got together and caused a fuss something would be done or is it just too big and corrupt and above them ? 😩.

@My-hat

Жыл бұрын

Big three 🤣. But also any fed who isn’t aligned to Russia !

Who are the CanaDanes?

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

Fournier Beaudry and Sorensen. He is Danish. She is Quebecois. They used to represent Denmark.

@sue48101

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

@@sue48101

Why would Alexa quit now when Russia is still not competing in ISU events?

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

To have a family and a life.

@JoshuaFazeli

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Milan is just two years away. I get it, but Alexa is a beast. She could have a pairs Olympic medal.

@benbailey159bb

Жыл бұрын

​@@JoshuaFazeli Nah the Russian's will be back for the Olympics

@nataliemarvos4623

Жыл бұрын

Having a kid doesn’t make you have more of a life compared to what Alexa’s doing now, she’ll be stuck at home way more. Not sure what the rush is when she’s skating better than ever and still improving, but I know her relatives are extremely attached to her.

@JoshuaFazeli

Жыл бұрын

@@benbailey159bb It’s highly unlikely they will be competing under Russia if at all after all these doping scandals.

Calalang/OShea?

@alexac3098

Жыл бұрын

I believe they were partnered as juniors.

Ooof I just had a thought. With all the Russian delegation currently being part of the system that letter sent by the Canadian athletes is not going to go unpunished. Just sayin……

Dave, is that a framed pic of Michelle Kwan (in spiral position)? ❤️

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

That looks like Toller Cranston to me lol

@My-hat

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s John curry ?

I'm praying that Riku and Ryuichi get different choreographers for both programs next season. Like omg for the last 2 seasons they're transformed into this generic canadian teams (no offense to the other teams) with the choreos and music choices. Lori should work with them and maybe she will give them masterpiece like she did with Sui/ Han. Also I assume as Japan have really strong single skating roots, I thought I don't need to worry for them going into sbs jumps. But oh boy Riku, you may idolize Sui but why do you follow her jump issues? Like do I need to worry every time you go for sbs 3S

@DSQueenie

Жыл бұрын

They need a Christopher Dean Long Program. I’m manifesting it into reality.

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

Omg..my thoughts exactly!

@3_times_mum520

Жыл бұрын

I think their short program was amazing ... No need to change!!

Is "unhinged" really that bad of a word? I mean...if the dirty boot fits...

@DSQueenie

Жыл бұрын

It implies a mental health problem and it low key implies violence as well. If you’re gonna use the word you’ve got to mean it.

@matthewhines9787

Жыл бұрын

@@DSQueenie Okay, but by that criterion, the words "crazy", "insane", or "freak out"?

@DSQueenie

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewhines9787 I think “insane” does have that same connotation when used to describe a person rather than a situation. Whereas “crazy” and “freak out” have lost that connotation due to overuse. That’s my opinion at least.

Damn! Meghan is associated with drama, often… all I’m going to say. If you have to leave an ice arena at this high of a level, you’re the issue. It ain’t just “Petty drama “. It’s fine if you want to have strong opinions but only cowards leave which means you should have just been quiet.

Famous last words of an aging Da Vinci in his last notebook, “The soup is getting cold.” For figure skating, the soup is now lukewarm. In a sport fast losing credibility and interest, how do they ban 17 year old Russian athletes but allow the most controversial Russian coaches at the world tourney? Clueless and spineless.

Meghan is a talented retired figure skater and with knowledge but I think Eric is more powerful with Vanessa, as well as competition as shows because they partnership James/Radford looks more conected and passionate.

@oliviarose1313

Жыл бұрын

Based on what? Their almost failed 1 season together that ended with a medal at worlds because so many others werent there?

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

@@oliviarose1313 probably the height and body lines are more similar...do Eric and Vanessa still skate with each other?

@nvadqs

Жыл бұрын

I don't know if we are watching the same. The had two season with lots of huge mistakes over and over. They onlybwon something when the bar lowered.....

@oliviarose1313

Жыл бұрын

@@janvdb9258 not competitively, they’ve done one show together that I know of so not sure what Eric meant by better opportunities since him & Meagan were doing so many shows.

Dave, can you have an honest conversation about how bad the women's event was? No personalities, dull programs, so uncompetitive. The sport is going to have to make some decisions soon.

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it. Kaori was a great champion! Nothing like a real competition.

😂😂this was desaster

@TheSkatingLesson

Жыл бұрын

This show?

@annararu7033

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Not this show,world championship

the level of the women's competition was unbelievably bad. even kati witt would have won with her performamce 40 years ago. every russian regional event is 3 classes better. its making me sad to see this lovely sport going down to that level

@NG-ue4th

Жыл бұрын

Lol any other season I might have agreed with you but not this. Even keeping all doping stuff aside, russia has not had a steady crop of ladies this season. Even the eteri girls Akatieva (she's not even eligible for seniors yet) and petrosian have so up and down the while season. Your own judging panel seems to think valieva is done (again don't know if she would have been eligible to compete this season because of the doping positive test), as for the plushenko girls, only god knows what's happening there given the way he keeps complaining every competition. Only tuktamysheva seems to be consistent. Moreover, the jumps seem all over the place (even if we don't consider the clean sport aspect), the programs are just headache inducing stuff of nightmares. And all I hear out of there ever day is another eteri girl who was completely broken due to her training methods (daria, maia, Aliona, sasha etc) which would makes it even harder to root for anyone there even if we can look away from how terrible the programs are.

@Chastaken

Жыл бұрын

Not a single female skater has won Worlds with quads but people has been complaining about how many years have regressed since Russians are banned 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Zhenya not quad or 3A, Alina not quad or 3A, Anna not quad or 3A... But yes, Kaori winning without quad or 3A is suddenly bad. At least she can skate

Pairs were laughable. How come they got 70+ TES in the first place? No choreography or transitions, just skating from one element to another, no synchronised elements. Pathetic. 20 years ago the competition was better than now.

LOOOVE Meagan! She said it once again but I guess it will again be 'lost in translation': The Russian skaters are NOT to be blamed for the systemic and massive doping policy in their country. It's the system, which includes coches, officials... Seeing Lakernik and too many of those coaches in the arena... makes you feel uncomfortable. The skaters are banned while the creatures that constitute that horrific system are flaunting in Saitama like nothing ever happened. Not right! As for the competition, I expected the quality level to be similar to what we saw at the Grand Prix but instead it was much-much better and in fact enjoyable. Congrats to Riku and Ryuichi on the title! I liked Sara and Niccolo the most, and the Hungarians/Russians deserved to be 5th if not even the 4th. Thanks for the show. Cheers!

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

The clean fair competition made it refreshing. The drama is fun for the banter here but Russian federation should receive a 20 year Olympic ban

@debbied2715

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I think most of the athletes know exactly what they are doing because it's so ingrained in their culture. But agree it was horrible knowing those coaches were there just because the (mostly Russian) skaters they coach represent Georgia or other Baltic countries. Lakernik too was an insult!

@wotanworld5504

Жыл бұрын

@@debbied2715 I agree that it is ingrained in their culture but I still cannot blame the 15 year old girls. To me the system i.e. coaches, officials and the medical staff are 99% to be blamed for all the doping and misdoings.

Русофобка Меган 🤮 боже мой, что она может хорошего сказать вообще?