Ultra compact mini ITX build would be more interesting personally given the size of the board to see the cooling performance in a smaller case. But an interesting option overall to go with.

@ChileanChimp

8 ай бұрын

+1 for this - Would love to see a ultra compact 4060 build

interesting motherboard! cant wait to see what people will build with these, it sound perfect for a small and tiny home server!

Just order this 3 days ago. Glad to see you review it

Got this in a couple weeks ago and I am amazed by the performance. Running a small Data Science server at home, I have this paired with an A2000 and a Google Coral TPU. Previously was using a Raspberry Pi 4, so performance is obviously night and day. This thing rips through large datasets like nothing. Can't wait to eventually move this into a SFF emulation machine.

@kamazuki

8 ай бұрын

Does it come with WiFi card pre installed in the m m.2 key E slot?

It’s nice to see builds like these. I don’t have the money to get anything like this, but I love small form factor builds

I have been WAITING for this review. I got a motherboard on the way and can't way to see what this thing can do.

Just got one of these off Amazon for $427 after the $100 off coupon they have for early buyers and it came out a lot cheaper than buying an am5 board and a ryzen 7700 and possibly a cpu cooler if you get the 7700x. I priced the r7 7700 and b650 itx motherboard at closer to $600. You can cut $100 off that if you go with a a620i motherboard but you're compromising on a lot of things and they come with inadequate vrm for the 7700x (the 7700 would be fine at 65watts). But even with the a620i board with the cut down features I still saved $70 by picking up this minisforum and that's not even including the cooler you might need if you go with the 7700x. The cpu in this is basically a delidded repurposed 7700x that is used in laptops at a lower wattage. Geekbench confirms this is a rebranded, delidded 7700x. Since this isn't running in a laptop and it isn't constrained by the anemic cooler this will run at over 100 watts and it becomes the 7700x that it is. This is a killer deal if you're willing to forego upgradeability in exchange for $100-300 in savings depending on what board and cooler you get. Since i upgrade my system every 6-7 years upgradeability is not something i value since I always end up having to buy a whole new platform. I just upgraded to this from a 6700k skylake system so buying a b650 plus a 7700 in hopes of upgrading to a zen 6 cpu 3 years from now isn't appealing at all. I'll take the delidded 7700x, great feature set mobo, and cooler in this all in one for a lot cheaper. It's not for everyone but for someone like me it's perfect. Ryzen 7 7700 - $329 B659 itx gigabyte or msi board - $239 =$620 after tax (prices from newegg and amazon) and this price only goes up if you want a decent cooler. this minisforum combo = $427 after tax for the exact same cpu and motherboard minus a sata express controller. Like I said, its not for everyone, but theres definitely some savings to be had here. You can throw the extra $100-300 into a better gpu or something.

@smc500custom3

7 ай бұрын

Word.

@game9370x

6 ай бұрын

tbh i would've waited for the 7945 version. double cores/threads means extra future proofing, just for 100/150 bucks extra. plus regarding the upgradability, this isn't entirely an issue. at least considering europe prices, with the money i save from this aio compared to the desktop counterpart, i can easily buy a whole other mobo and be good for more years then i would with keeping a 7000 dekstop setup long term. plus if your intended use is gaming, just go for a 1440p monitor and the cpu will age slower with a good graphic card. anyway, i'm still debating between bd790i and ar900i

@Son37Lumiere

6 ай бұрын

Because this is a power limited mobile CPU it's not as fast as a 7700X. A 7700X gets a score of around 8500 in CPUz multithreading whereas this gets 7000 which is roughly on par with the performance of a 5800X but does draw less power. It's an interesting motherboard. The lower power is nice for an ITX build but you lose that upgradability and you can get a decent AM5 ITX motherboard for $140 plus $315 for a 7700.

@lolunderstated533

5 ай бұрын

@@game9370xThe 790i is a killer deal, much better than the 770i that I got and I already thought that was a great deal. The 790i is overkill for my purposes though. I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't have gone for the 790i if it was out at the time I bought my 770i though.

I'd definitively be interested in seeing a tiny sleeper PC build made with this, the kind you can hide inside a brolen old radio or console or something to hide it in plain sight.

I can see these Mini ITX being a popular turnkey package. Good hands on demo and review 👍

i am so obsessed with this motherboard but i don't have a reason to use one for a build. super cool stuff. Only wish it had more I/O

You could build it much smaller, but this is a nice desktop build. Lots if room for cooling, great performance good small size. Very nice man

Totally slept on this thing until now. For productivity especially, BD770i and/or 7745HX cpu might be extra performant 👍 With *32 MB of L3 cache* , sort of surprised that everyone is not praising the L3 ❤ Kindest regards, friends and neighbors. P.S. This is no place for my rantings about DDR5 in general 🤣

Excellent video, I was expecting a small form factor build. Please do a video with one, something that can replace next gen consoles.

What a great build! Totally amazing what you can do now with such small form factor!

This is just amazing, you can build an only streaming pc with this very easily

I would love to see that in an open case 5L or less case. Thanks for bringing this to our attention

You should build this one with your low profile RTX 4060, it'd be a true portable gaming machine.

I can't wait to see how much of a small factor pc you can pull up with this motherboard

looks awesome!!! love the heatsink!!!! if it is fanless i would buy it for sure!!!!

I like this a lot. I hope they also build one with a Ryzen 7 7840H on board as well you can make your own mini PCs with any ultra small custom ITX case (like the Goodisory A01 or A02 case). You can use it as a budget build until you want to upgrade a discrete GPU (or when the 780M is no longer a option) down the road as well. The SSD heatsink is a nice touch as well.

@tylerstark1969

8 ай бұрын

They'll release 7945hx later

@benjiro8793

8 ай бұрын

@@tylerstark1969 7945HX is just another desktop chiplet CPU, aka, it does not have the AI core, the 780M iGPU (12CU), but will only have 2CU. And for most people, 16 cores is absolutely useless. Most games barely use 6 cores, with a few exception (que the "but but x"), so your spending loads more money on feeling good seeing a lot of cores but gaming will mean your wasting 60% of your CPU cores, loads of applications will barely tax all your 16 cores for a fraction of their power. Take it from somebody that ran a 3900X with 6+6 cores, your wasting money if you do not have a VERY specific workload that REALLY can use and tax more then 8 cores... People need to stop drooling over benchmarks and just use their systems. Basic CPus are so overpowered to 99% of people workloads, so do not fall for all those benchies and drooling over "but its 100% faster" (in benchies and specific workloads that 99% of people here do not use).

@Mr.D.K.

7 ай бұрын

Скоро будет ryzen 7 8700g этот процессор будет на АМ5 и он будет с 780м на борту. И он будет под все материнские платы. Ну и будет работать с DDR5 7600 мегагерц. Это будет лучьше и в каких-то случаях дешевле.

@JeremyLeePotocki

7 ай бұрын

@@Mr.D.K. Гугл перевел, так что извините и опечатки: я в какой-то степени не согласен. Это будет зависеть от того, где вы живете, и от рыночной цены. В настоящее время самые дешевые процессоры 7000 Ryzen 7 и 9 здесь, в США, стоят 329 долларов, а материнские платы ITX стоят 120 долларов. Когда вы также добавляете радиаторы как для SSD, так и для процессора, эта цена составит еще от 40 до 70 долларов. Так что это уже $480~$500+. Кроме того, некоторые магазины в других странах уже показывают цены, аналогичные текущему самому дешевому Ryzen, так что этот маршрут по-прежнему будет самым дешевым для сборки Ryzen. In English: I do disagree to some degree. It will depend on where you live, and the market price. Right now the cheapest 7000 Ryzen 7 and 9 CPUs here in the USA is $329 with ITX Motherboards going for $120. When you are also adding heatsinks for both SSD and CPU that price will be another $40 to $70. So that is already $480~$500+ right there. Also some stores in other countries are already showing prices similar to the current cheapest Ryzen so this one will still is the cheapest route for a Ryzen build.

100% would LOVE to see and A2000 or RTX 4060 LP build. I think the Heatsink design is better than trying to fit an L9a or other TINY cooler in a NORMAL AM4/AM5/LGA1700 build.

thank you for the review you are the best this is powerful stuff

Something like this would be awesome for a homelab system, shame they are so frigin expensive though!

@Neopulse00

8 ай бұрын

It's currently $399 on the website. It's not a bad price at all. I'm personally waiting for the 790i model and hoping it doesn't go past $599 so I can use it as a personal editing rig.

@lolunderstated533

8 ай бұрын

Honestly the fact that this is a delidded 7700x that is rebranded and repurposed for laptops without the enclosure thermal limitation, a motherboard with an awesome feature set, and a cooler that you can add a silent 120mm fan to, makes this a killer deal. It comes in at $100-300 cheaper than buying a 7700x, a b650 or an a620i motherboard, and a cooler. But you are sacrificing upgradeability for those savings.

I hope they give the 790i to review. I'm DYING to see how good it performs on CPU intensive games like Microsoft Flight Simulator, DCS and Escape From Tarkov.

Great YT! Yes, I'd like to see with a smaller GPU?

Im more excited about the minisforum BD790i packing the ultra powerful ryzen 7945hx 16 cores monster. This will make most desktop builds obsolete.

Cool video! I'd love to see just the intergrated cpu and see how it performs

This is awesome! It's a step into the plug n play mini pc market. I just home these single board and mini pc products done create tons of obsolete e-waste since their upgradeability are limited and will be left behind in tech in a matter of years

Would definitely love to see this paired up with a 4060 to see just how small of a build is possible with this motherboard combo

@iinfamousaznn

8 ай бұрын

I have this with the Densium 4+ with the 4060 LP. It can prob get a little smaller

@Coldbreathful

8 ай бұрын

Would be fine since the cpu is bottleneck with everything above 6800 non xt or 7700xt 😂. As you can see 80% gpu load at 1440p for cyberpunk

@supportwaifu

7 ай бұрын

@@Coldbreathful Idk, I just watched it and it was above 90%, highest 97% with the chip not even running max wattage. There is no Bottleneck with a 4060, there is actually no bottleneck with a desktop 4070 either, and very minimal bottleneck with a 4070 ti desktop.

definitely want to see a compact small form factor build

Just got mine. Going to put this into a Velka 7 with a 4070

amazing built👍

I was considering this with the thought of much better idle power consumption. I was hoping it was included in the video as you did in some other reviews.

@KikujiroChan

8 ай бұрын

Only reason why I clicked this video. This build here makes no sense. You get a am5 itx board and a faster cpu for the Same price.

@benjiro8793

8 ай бұрын

Its a desktop Chiplet, that AMD down ported to "mobile". You can forget about great idle performance. A 7840HS for instance next to me in a mini-pc does 7W idle. A 13600K on a matx board did 24W idle, a 3900X chiplet did 40W idle (wall, same PSU, no dGPU). AMD Chiplets are notorious for using 10 a 15W extra power. These 7840HX are designed (technically downplanted) for workstation laptops, aka, where you need all the CPU performance you can get, need to be able to "move" your laptop ~desktop~ but where your going to be working from the wall anyway. Even the laptop to desktop G series, idle at best with 18W (i know)... You want low idle, get a mini-pc with a 7840HS and that will give you low idle. Best of all, PTM7950 + direct die cooler + 120mm fan and your idling at 21C for your CPU *lol* ... My full load is 60C for putting out 70W... Look up the Morefine m600, where you can transplate a intel LGA1155 fan on top because for some reason the MB has LGA1155 holes. Note: 3mm lower then the actual 1155 socket, so you need to use backscrew method. You can buy that for $400 and even lower with some haggling... Forget about any more detail review from prime because that is how he does his videos. Only show one part, never show bad parts like fan noise, high idle, or other issues because he is literally used by every Chinese manufacture to showcase their products. He will only show idle power draw or temps or ... if they are actually good on the unit he is testing. Never look at these reviews beyond what they are, just a basic overview and that is it.

@markar34

8 ай бұрын

​@@benjiro8793 , wait, isn't the PC under review using 7745hx? I've read a review from Anand claiming 7945hx idles only at 8.3w, albeit still worse than Intel's. I'm confused as what's really causing AMD systems to consume more power when idling if it's the chiplet design or the motherboard. Both 7945hx and 7950x use chiplet design (I've seen the actual photos of both chips, both have 3 separate dies) and that is telling me it's got to be the motherboard. My rig uses 7950x with RTX 3070 and my idle power draw at the wall is 70w.

That would be a cool board for either a minimal portable gaming setup or rack mount

@lolunderstated533

8 ай бұрын

nothing minimal about it. It's a delidded 7700x inside this thing lol You can do whatever you want with it. Would make a killer portable gaming rig or editing rig. And if we're being honest, this things has more horsepower than the pc people keep at home.

What a beautiful PC!!

i'd be really interrested to see the power draw of this!

"Minisforum is known for making MANY PC's".... Thx 4 the vid.

Patiently waiting for the 3D varients 😤

ETA can you undervolt the 7745HX to see how much you can push it in something like Cinebench R23? Lenovo Legion Pro has "All core curve optimizer" option in it's BIOS for undervolting the 7745HX.

@benjiro8793

8 ай бұрын

Jesus, do people still not get it. ETA will never do that.. He only shows a product, next, next, hide anything bad so he keeps getting free samples from manufactures, who in turn post his videos below their products.

ive waited for your review of this...

5L setup would be amazing!

Very nice review, thank you. Have you tried to measure idle AC power consumption ? I'm looking for a HW for a new home lab server and I like the idea not to power a AM5 chipset I do not need.

I wanna see a build with this and that nifty half height 4060 card in as small a case as possible.

i'd run one as my daily streaming rig.

Hey ETA, was wondering if you were still going to be doing the Odin 2 emulator video.

Thanks for the video. Could you check the idle power consumption with the iGPU, please? I mean without a PCIe GPU.

would love to see an sff build with this mobo! I might consider getting one!

Hey boss I was watching a video on somebody's channel and I'm like this sounds like ETA Prime's voice. And I even found more videos of you. I just think it's weird that Unbroken Software, LLC. Has a few of your videos up on their channel. I was trying to look up information on launchbox achievements. And I was searching for a video that I thought you did. And found a video of your work on somebody else's channel. It's funny too because they have two videos talking about it. One is from a year ago and the other is from a few years ago and both are yours. At the beginning of his videos you see his logo. But you can hear the ETA prime intro. Hi guys, welcome to ETA prime in this video...

Interesting, but hard to recommend. You can get an lga 1700 mini itx board + 13600k + a cooler for around the same price, alternatively, cheaper with AM4 and it will out perform that. For a little bit more you can go with AM5.

An ITX case with a small modular Power supply along with a founders edition 3070ti (smaller then the 3080ti) (much smaller then 4000 series cards except SFF cards) would be the ways to go

Pop this bad boy in the Fractal Terra sir!

Would love to see something similar with a Ryzen 9 32c/64t and 4 RAM slots to put in a Fractal Design Terra and do a powerful yet compact editing station in the spirit of a Mac Studio

I'm curious to see how well this board with the cooler on will fit in a sandwich case, but most especially, a Phanteks Shift XT and whether their 30mm thick fan will fit. The mounting system uses a screw instead of clips, so you could in theory just look for the right length screw; at worst I imagine the 30mm fan's included screws might need a washer or something. But then at that point the question is how tall does the heatsink get with a 25mm thick fan and a 30mm thick fan (plus their vibration dampeners)? One other intriguing reason to use it in such cases: not only will it pull fresh air from just above the APU and m.2 fans, the orientation of the CPU heatsink fins can mean the air cooling the C=APU will either blow over one SODIMM and have incidental flow to the other on one side, and then exit the case on the opposite side through the vented I/O shield. Basically the APU won't be contributing a lot of air getting trapped in such a case. To begin with it might not even need to pull in that much air given the TDP and bare die on a mobile CPU while still getting a cooler more massive than what's on a laptop along with a fan that isn't a tiny pair of blowers that also need to coole the GPU. You could keep the exhaust fans up top spinning slower if a good amount of the air actually flows out the back (maybe putting gaffer tape on the RAM side of the cooler can help with this). If anything the downside could potentially be that you're more likely to hear the GPU or even the SFX PSU fans, but 1. If you go with a x7x0/x07x(Ti) or lower, a two slot thick card with three 90mm fans shouldn't be all that audible; factor in-game audio through closed back headphones while it's working and technically it'll probably only really be a problem if you're running a pro workload while you have an open back headphone on your head. 2. I imagine a 750w 80+ Gold (or higher rating) SFX PSU powering a `100w mobile APU and an under ~250w GPU shouldn't get too loud unless you have something like that load-dependent Cooler Master series that will start getting loud as soon as your Lovelace GPU starts rendering anything more than Windows or a YT vid.

Nice! Would be cool to see a small form factor build and perhaps test using ChimeraOS? Kinda like a mini Steam Machine?

@Akshun82

8 ай бұрын

That was my first thought when I saw MINISFORUM list this board.

@DeathTrick101

8 ай бұрын

Great minds I guess! :p @@Akshun82

this motherboard is a wet dream of pcie 5.0 ssd drives in raid.

I definitely want to see a small form factor build with the 4060 low profile.

I definitely was screaming to pair this with the ultra low profile 4060 and a GaN power supply!

ASRock has a Challenger 7800xt that has an actually reasonable cooler size, so that would be an option for that GPU in a smaller sized ITX case

Waiting for the 8700g for itx build and could easily add low profile 4060 to keep it nice and small later on that’s my 2024 build 😁

I got the new one 790I nice nice too

I was really hoping this would be mini-stx. I've been waiting for an all-in-one mini-stx with a x16 lane...

Nice look. Which keyboard is this?

On the store, in pictures, they also show the 7945HX. When will that materialize? I am in for the 7945HX motherboard with JONSBO D31 MESH Case or the Minisforum Project DRFXI...whichever comes first.

would like to know how it doeswith the onboard graphics too

this case is lovly👍

POWERFUL!!

I really like this PC concept, except the case 👍🏻

eta prime how fine tunable are the bios settings , what are the fan , voltage , an memory controls like can you do a vid on just that ?

I hope they're going to release the Ryzen 9 7945HX they originally announced with this board. I've been watching it since it was originally announced and I noticed that they removed the option to pick it off their page. It is still listed in the literature as you scroll down further.

This would be really nice in an INWIN Chopin case

Boards with built it CPU & GPU (like laptop boards, but in desktop format) should defo be a thing.

@MrBirchieBirch

8 ай бұрын

Just thinking more on this. This how I'd do it it. Make the board Mini ITX, but double the width, so 17cm x 34cm. CPU side would be a standard M-ITX layout - CPU socket, RAM slots, I/O, SSD slot etc, GPU side would come pre-intalled with various laptop Varient GPU'S soldered onto the board but designed so standard CPU coolers can be used. Maybe an option to solder dedicated GPU RAM to the board or share system RAM. I'd call the board Mini ITXG Anyway...there's my dumb thought for the day.

$399 is awesome price An itx and ryzen 7700 nonX is around $499 in my country This seems like a good alternative when on sale

I really wish you would talk about something other than gaming performance! That Mobo would make a good NAS - Docker machine!

id love to see some gaming on bd770i in holoiso or any steam linex build

I wait for the X3D-Version...coming soon!

Maybe when the 8000 series is mature I might look at this. But for now Im happy with my 5700G based system.

would be cool to see chimera os on this setup

I know you would lose use of the pcie slot, but it would be interesting to see that boarf in a case like the inwin chopin pro

So, at that point you could just use a regular desktop CPU and AM5 motherboard. Is the whole point of this thing just the price? Also note that the RAM will be more expensive due to the form factor.

@whitygoose

8 ай бұрын

nah that will be make sense

The RX 7800XT is an amazing gpu.

i hope the 7745hx realeses on a 4x4 pc with 2x m.2 pci 4 would be so funn realy go all inn building a mini pc with 4060 an as smale as posible

How does the integrated gpu perform? What is the lowest powered PSU you'd recommend? Would love to see this in a little desktop case with a sfx PSU/ext power brick. Looking to build a little steam deck system, In an SFF case.

Ty for making this video, Nobody show Qube 500 with PSU on the bottom... I got 1 question can i put the PSU on the bottom with SFX PSU when using ATX Motherboard?

You managed to take an integrated board meant for ultra compact itx builds from a company known for ultra small PC's and made a bulky ass build in a case fit for a full atx board

Would be interesting to see what idle power consumption is, both with and without a GPU card. Mini PCs have much lower power consumption in idle, desktop is much higher, so I wonder where this ends up.

i had thermal paste issues on my unit... very dissapointed, was planning that if i have a good experience with this board, i'd eventually buy the BD790i also, but with such a bad experience with the temps and everything, i'd stay far away.

SFF please. Nice video. TY.

They are supposed to be putting out a 7740HS with Radeon 780m version of this soon.

my new build is going to be this with a 7600 reference card in the malkans sf8g ... id love for you to do a build in the sf8g

@jondonnelly4831

8 ай бұрын

Yeah nice choice of case and cheap too!

@Ptrmrkks

8 ай бұрын

@@jondonnelly4831 I think it's just an introductory price

What are the measurements for the cpu cooler with the 120mm fan?

7745HX is basically a 7700X (at lower TDP).

@Vhalikuporamee447

8 ай бұрын

Not quite. It's a monolithic APU with reduced per-core cache, which means that even at the same TDP you won't benefit as much from increases in frequency and overall it will lose some performance.

I just ordered one. The price came out cheaper than getting a 7000 AMD with a PCIE 5.0 motherboard.

With the fan installed will this fit in the Densium 4+?

This should fit right inside one of those Commodore 64X cases ? Am i right ?

Do these exist with a 7840HS? That would be really great for a nice little mini pc!

@benjiro8793

8 ай бұрын

Just buy about any mini-pc for way cheaper, and get a m.2 to PCIe 4.0 4x. Will run your dGPU at 99% speed.

Fractal Design Terra Graphite - Wood Walnut Front Panel - Small Form Factor - Mini ITX Gaming case put MINISFORUM BD770i and EVGA FTW3 GeForce RTX 3090

is that cooler removeable for other re-purposing on a diff itx? it looks pretty cool lol

We need to see what's inside )))

I like. Kinda sad that it has no CPU settings as i want to undervolt this thing. anyways, i'd be looking at minisforum for a future build

Nice, but want 790i 7945HX for more cores to suit my workloads, they tease it only!