If you optimize the 13700K just right, you can get respectable efficiency! Mine gets a Cinebench score of 28000 with a power draw of just 165W. That's just a 7% loss of performance with a massive drop in power draw.

@xerzy

Жыл бұрын

oh hey there, didn't expect you over here! 👀 Are you hackintoshing then, or was that Cinebench on Windows? Personally, I'm sure an AMD would have done much better here, *but* that's harder to setup with OpenCore if even possible, so it's good to hear there's room for a bit of power efficiency

@TechLifeNow

Жыл бұрын

Yes Under Voltage CPU Help It. Same Performance 💖

@davidg5898

Жыл бұрын

I get no performance loss from my 13700K with a Proxmox VM Hackintosh, Cinebench 30600 (same as when I bench it in bare metal Windows). Undervolted with the same low power draw as you. No tweaking/optimizing required.

@tresderan10

Жыл бұрын

well well .. can you work in silence? I do and to me that is an achievement!!! and also do you have all that power on a battery? i guess not... hahaha

@calinnilie

Жыл бұрын

@@davidg5898 How much do you undervolt it? I have a 13700K as well and haven't properly tuned it in yet.

Mentioning you used to be able to “create a hackintosh in minutes” lol. I’ve lost days of my time to debugging my hackintoshes over the years even with those “easy” tools. Appreciate the video, I’ve given up on the hackintosh dream and have been living the m1 life for a while now. I do miss the performance more often than I thought I would.

@tbonedude12

Жыл бұрын

You know you can add an eGPU to Macs right? Throw a 4070 in there for your docking station haha

@snazzy

Жыл бұрын

OpenCore takes a bit to get setup, but once they're setup, it's pretty darn seamless. I'm impressed with how far they've come.

@krunge

Жыл бұрын

​​@@tbonedude12 but MacOS doesn't support Nvidia graphics cards that new?

@sarem2001

Жыл бұрын

Almost every problem I have had with a hackintosh that wasn't just solvable by effort (like taking time to set up USB) has been with the GPU. Get a 580 or 5600XT/5700XT and test out boot flags. This goes for both AMD and Intel systems.

@shawnmichaels5484

Жыл бұрын

Haha, it took 3months for me

I planned on buying parts (today) for a 10th gen build, because I believed it was the last officially supported generation of Intel CPUs, but after seeing this, I may have to change that up. Thanks for the excellent video.

@osamabinlaggin69

Жыл бұрын

To be honest considering that macos can't differentiate between p and e cores, is there any other significant reason to get the newer generation chip?

@cinebenjamin

Жыл бұрын

@@osamabinlaggin69 MUCH higher IPC even on the E-cores.

@toseltreps1101

Жыл бұрын

​@@cinebenjamin 13th gen e-cores are not faster than 10th gen p cores

@J_Echoes

Жыл бұрын

​@@toseltreps1101 Yeah, but even without optimisation and proper scheduling, the improved single core and multicore is still there, as shown in all the benchmarks in the vid.

@Z4KIUS

Жыл бұрын

@@osamabinlaggin69 when you do proper MT it doesn't need to know the difference, it matters mostly for games

Oh man you brought back memories of using a Hackintosh. I do not miss messing around with custom config files. Excellent work!

The Open Core team have done some great work. I just recently used the Open Core Legacy Patcher to install Monterey on a Mid 2011 iMac that I upgraded the GPU on. Full metal support and everything works brilliantly. Next step is to upgrade the BT / WIFI adapter to allow support for Handoff / Airplay / etc.

@RamonNunezRey

8 ай бұрын

I have a mid 2012 macbook pro do you think it is possible for me too to install monterrey too?

@razzledev

8 ай бұрын

@@RamonNunezReyYup! I just Open Cored my Mid-2012 i5 MBP to Monterey and it works flawlessly. It’s smooth, drivers work, and there are no bugs that I have found.

Love this vid and not shying away from the details and explaining things in an approachable way.

Fun little experiment-thought about doing this many times. May still do it. That thermal difference is a huge difference in limited spaces. My 12700K/RTX 3080 rig heats up my space during the summer likes like a sauna. Not necessarily a reason to pick your platform, mind you, but a bit of a decision maker as to what device I boot up on any given day.

Just about finished upgrading my whole family's old Haswell based hackintoshes to 10th gen Intel and Big Sur - five PCs with my own PC triple booting. There's almost zero point (unless you really need it) bothering with Monterey or Ventura as Apple have been stripping out hardware driver support with each more recent version, with all the focus understandably being on M1 development - this can make things like bluetooth, wifi and even ethernet trickier to get working and less stable generally for no appreciable benefit since BIg Sur still got a recent security update. Also of course as Apple deprecate older hardware there's no point them including drivers for that hardware in a current OS - but from a hackintoshing point of view this limits your options. For me 10th gen Intel with Big Sur is the sweet spot. Also Quinn I'm not sure if you just lucked out or maybe you missed explaining that you can no longer fix your USB port limit issues AFTER installation with USB mapping - this needs to be done before you create the installer so you have your USBToolBox.kext and UTBMap.kext )or equivalent) - specific to the hardware you intend to install on - before you attempt to install. Far and away the easiest way of doing this is with USBToolbox - created by dhinakg of Opencore dev fame - on Windows. This is actually the biggest headache in the process IME, because you have to figure out which of your allowed 15 ports you're going to keep. Mind you its not that tricky as the 15 port limit is per controller and your higher end motherboards tend to have two or three controllers. Also it's pretty simple to sacrifice unused internal USB headers and also switch off the USB 3.0 port where you know you're only going to connect USB 2.0 or 1.1 devices or vice versa. Anyone interested should search for "chriswayg" on gitbook and "USB Mapping on Windows" - his Opencore Visual Guide is generally very good and highly recommended in conjunction with the Dortania guide.

I built an 8th Gen HackMac using an i5-8600K on an MSI board with an RX Vega 56 GPU which worked great and was strangely easy to get working using OpenCore. Recently upgraded to an i9-9900K (2nd hand from ebay) for seriously improved performance. But, seeing your successful 13th Gen build has given me hope.... Sadly, I cannot afford Apple silicon just yet so I guess its time for another upgrade...

I LOVE THIS KIND OF CONTENT!!! i build my first Hackintosh in 2008, and all this talk is nostalgic, i hope everybody keeps all this Hackintosh topic alive!

Superb work doing this video, quite surprising results....wanted to see latest hardware performance in hackintosh.

I used to build many a Hackintosh bitd on generic stuff using Clover Configurator etc. They all worked, sometimes quite well. And then I switched to cMP 5,1's for 6 or so years, all good, all supported with some tweaks. However, for the first time ever I've picked up some second hand PC stuff thats fairly supported, studied the Dortania guides and spent a week building a new Hack. And it just works, the guides are fantastic documents on how Macs work- some of the best written technical docs I've ever encountered.

Great video, Quinn. I just sold my old Ryzen 3900X/5700XT hackintosh rig and assembled an all white NZXT build, same i7 13700K as yours and a reference black 6950XT. It looks clean and has phenomenal performance for the price. Was going to install Ventura today on one of the NVMEs and your video just came out at perfect timing. I totally agree on your vision about the future of Hackintosh. This may actually be my last one as well; can’t beat an M1 Ultra killer at half price.

This is a highly in-depth and well informed video. Great job!

It would be great to get a detailed guide on how to build a hackintosh. Really enjoy your format of content. I always learn something.

really excellent, informative and comprehensive video, thank you buddy. My request do you have a step by step guide for building a hackintosh and which way do you prefer proxmox or native install ?

I WASN'T planing to do a Hackintosh... until I watched this video! Now I'm seriously contemplating it! I honestly could not care less if it continues to support the latest MacOS. For stability and compatibility with software and peripherals, I always stay a minimum of 2 full versions behind current version anyway. The machine that I pay the bills with is still using Mojave, and I have no intention of updating that any time soon!

@julian.morgan

Жыл бұрын

IMO Big Sur is the sweet spot amongst current OS versions for hackintoshing - this has to do with the drivers built in to Big Sur that were removed by Apple for Monterey and Ventura. It's not that you can't get things to work, they just aren't as stable - so I'm just about to downgrade my wife's hackintosh back to Big Sur from Ventura because she's been plagued with wifi and bluetooth disconnects. Of course such issues are very specific to the brand and model of the ethernet/wifi/BT card or NIC which depends on the motherboard. . Totally agree with staying well behind with Mac versions - people coming from Windows are understandably anxious to stay absolutely up to date, at least with security updates, but that's not been my experience on Macs for the last 30 years. Of course it depends on what kind of risks you take with stuff online. Up until recently I was also using Mojave - mostly because I have some 32bit control panels that control some audio outboard - but then I realised I could run the 32bit Windows versions of these via Crossover on Big Sur.

@peppermintpig974

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I still run a Yosemite hack. Rarely ever should your decision to build a hack be based on future OS upgrades. It should be based in part on whether the OS of choice supports your workflow and that there is a healthy development environment for software. I do tech support and my ethos is to make things faster/more stable without disrupting my client's workflow. Sometimes that means helping elderly people who still use floppy disks.

@chimastudios

10 ай бұрын

@@peppermintpig974 that's impressive. and it runs without any crashes even today?

I just built almost EXACTLY this machine. The 13700k is a beast.

@dominicaccardo8050

Жыл бұрын

NO WAY SAME. 13700k, nhd15s, torrent compact, 1000w good psu, 1tb 980 pro, AND i’m planning to upgrade to rdna2

@snazzy

Жыл бұрын

Indeed it is!

@robinenbernhard

Жыл бұрын

True 13700 super i got my self KF dont need onboard GPU

@bootchoo96

Жыл бұрын

@@robinenbernhard iGPU is a godsend for Troubleshooting - my AMD doesn't have one and I stress for the day I'll have to troubleshoot

@TomasRamoska

Жыл бұрын

​@robin & bernhard Big mistake iGPU can encode and decode multiple video codecs better than Nvidia RTX4090

still running my hackintoshes since 2017... couldn't be happier. Upgradability was the key for me. Couple of upgrades along the way and it runs like new with latest MacOS.

I bought a Mac Mini with a 10-core M2 Pro and I've been more than happy with it. I'm mainly a Linux user, but Asahi Linux drivers are in the works so I'll get back to Linux in a while. One of the major factors for getting this machine was the power efficiency, as here in the Nordic countries, electric costs have sky rocketed. I used to have an FX 8350 and an R9 390 and it drew so much power when just doing pretty lightweight tasks. My daily driver before the Mac Mini was an ASUS laptop with a Ryzen 7 3700U and the Mac crushes it. In a DIY xz compression tests the ASUS took 1758s to compress it when the Mac Mini did it in 864s, less than half the time. Decompressing that took 80s for the ASUS laptop and 32s for the Mac Mini. Yeah, not really saving that much in decompression, but as I have to compress software packages using `XZ_OPT=-e9` daily, it will save alot of time. When compiling LLVM using a custom build script, it took the ASUS laptop 82min when the Mac Mini did it in 9min. That's 11% of the time the ASUS laptop took do compiling it. The ASUS laptop was 800€ new and the Mac Mini 1480€ with a student discount, but that's still worth the money for me as I'm saving alot of time without having a bulky desktop (my room is under 9m^2 so space is limited) and having way lower power draw than my old desktop.

@gearsgamer7115

9 ай бұрын

macs suck for os use,.

This was an great video. I like Quinn's unbias take on computing hardware and software. It makes him some you can trust.

Hey! If anyone is having trouble editing their plist files, you can always use the easy method (which is not mentioned in the OC documentation probably because they want you to know how all this works + easier to trouble shoot) is to use OC Auxillary tools. It basically does it all automatically for you + easy updates once you are set up too

@massgrave8x

Жыл бұрын

Trust me when I say you are more likely to encounter issues when using those automatic configurators. It really is best to take the time to go through the official OpenCore documentation to follow each step in the process in full detail to ensure that you're setting up your install as compatibly as possible for your specific hardware.

@peterelliott2914

Жыл бұрын

@@massgrave8x OCat is fine for a config.plist file from scratch, it's just when you get one that was made in propertree and then modify it in OCat. That's when it's dodgy.

I love how you explained everything....also your personality.

the metaphore you used with the conductor and musician is so fire. love that

Bought the MBP16 M2 Pro a ew months ago, likely will stay on this for the time being. The lack of future support kills my interest in building one of these.

@shin-ishikiri-no

11 ай бұрын

I honestly just stopped using Mac altogether. Not interested in ARM or their locked up OS. The Intel based ones at least had way more options.

My biggest issue with a Hackintosh is that it's fool's gold. Some nerd talks you into putting together a Hackintosh for you, spends a day getting it up and running, leaves it with you, and everything's great until you run an OS update and the whole computer refuses to boot, and now you're entirely dependent on that one friend coming back to your house. Running a Hackintosh is for people who are fine with the idea of needing to hand-modify plist files and troubleshoot random issues that happen for no reason. It's cool for people who want to work ON their computer. That sounds like a slight but I don't mean it to. Some people like to tinker. Most people don't. I think it's a cool concept but I've seen regular people get talked into these and regret it.

@segundacuenta726

3 ай бұрын

1) one could pay someone to install it. 2) why the need to update so often? Most people who want hackintoshes are for audio or video work with tons of ram and hard drive and fast, not for updating and installing new stuff that require an update. I think so.

@budgetkeyboardist

3 ай бұрын

@@segundacuenta726 I'm not convinced that audio and video people don't want to do updates. Look at Logic Pro adding support for Dolby Atmos. However, I am a big fan of freezing a computer in time, for sure. You just have to ignore the new cool stuff, which can be hard.

Did an opencore AMD build 1,5 years ago. I tried the multibeast approach 2 years before that. I found opencore to be way easier with the guide. I did have some errors, but that was my own fault for not RTFM good enough. Still wouldn't use it as a production machine though. For professional workflows I'd go with Mac Studio (or upcoming Mac Pro), independent contractors could try it to safe a buck or for private usage you'd try it. It was really fun to build and my gateway into MacOS (own MBP's 14" and 16" now).

built a hackintosh ventura last week for my old pc. 8th gen 8600k. i was surprised with the performance with the iGpu. Windows 11 22h2 was lagging in some apps but the same apps running smooth in the hackintosh.

OpenCore is such a godsend for old Macs as well. I don't know if I'd say OpenCore is "easy" for the average user but it's such an improvement. If OCLP expands or forks to PC hardware, it could be easy. Ironically I still edit on FCPX on my Mac Pro 2019 over my M1 Max too thanks to issues.

@ajaxr

Жыл бұрын

OCLP is a macOS patcher that will allow older macs to run macOS again. Yes it can allow older pc hardware to run too but it won’t create the necessary stuff like your EFI to boot macOS on your PC…

@dmug

Жыл бұрын

@@ajaxr the main thing is it’s a configurator, and if that experience comes to the pc side of things where you can create an OpenCore instance automatically by hardware detection, then it’d be truly easy

@jondonnelly4831

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I still use my 2013 macbook air and its never worked better under Ventura. 4gb ram, 2 cores and 128gb storage with samsung T7 1tb.

I am using a 2006 Mac Pro case for my PC right now and I love it. But that Fractal case is looking really nice too. You may have gotten me to switch to that lol.

@Pushing_Pixels

10 ай бұрын

Ooh, I should buy an ancient, dead Mac Pro just for the case. Thanks for the tip 🙂

@NathanMillerVisuals

10 ай бұрын

@@Pushing_Pixels fun project if your work is just tossing them out.

For almost a year, I used OpenCOre Legacy Monterey on my 2011 Mac MIni. It was amazing. Now that I have an M1 Mac Mini, I converted the 2011 Mac Mini to a Mint 21.1 Cinnamon machine. Both of these machines together have more oomph that I could ever use.

I have an old G4 DMD and G5 PowerMacs and it's tempting. My Hackintosh was state of the art in 2012. Upgraded the GPU in 2020, but, this is really tempting.

This is the content that I subscribed to.

Interesting. I'd like to see the performance of a Hackintosh with a new 56 core Xeon W with loads of RAM - at least 256 GB. Obviously it's going to be vastly more expensive than a Mac Studio, but how about a comparable Mac Pro?

@post-leftluddite

11 ай бұрын

Just read a review on that new 56 Core Xeon by Puget Systems, and unfortunately, the Intel chip gets beat by the Threadripper Pro despite the fact that Zen3 is several years old at this point

I used to keep Windows, Ubuntu, and MacOS on all my daily driver machines and boot into whatever OS best suited my workload for that day. I haven't installed MacOS in a long time, though. I think I'm going to try it again. Ya talked me into it. I'm going to make some room on my hard drive and see if I can get this to work. It would be nice to have that third option again when I want to edit a video or record my guitar. Windows does fine for that but I really love the MacOS options for media editing. Thanks for making this video. I had no idea this was a thing.

Impressively comprehensive - great content!

The entire time I was like, "yeah, but talk about performance per watt" and then you did, and i was like, "oh... I guess that really isn't much of a benefit," when you put it in terms of how long it will take to pay off the Mac Studio with the energy savings, it all made sense. I have a feeling like the more Apple increases the performance of each iteration of their in house silicon, they're also going to push that thermal headroom that they had going into this race, and eventually they'll be able to truly out perform a PC at the same power draw. But then they'll have to contend with the thermals of the machine, which they haven't been the best at when it came to intel based macs. Who knows, maybe they're doing R&D to figure that out.

@thomasanderson5929

Жыл бұрын

That is assuming intel and amd stay stagnant. They won't.

@massgrave8x

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasanderson5929 But we'd also have to account for future versions of macOS supporting x86_64, which I hope is the case for a while (considering they are still producing Intel Mac Pros), but none of us know for sure.

@AdamHansen95

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasanderson5929that’s not exactly true given that the “outperforming M1 Ultra Mac Studio” was by relatively slim margins for the most part. Which could be closed by optimisations, a higher TDP, more unified memory, and whatever else Apple is doing with their processors. Which, might I add, is still in its infancy while Intel and AMD have been at the processor manufacturing game for ~13+ generations. Also, as far as the biggest gap (gaming) keep in mind we didn’t see the M1 Ultra performance, just the M1 Max. Also, also, let’s not forget to mention that Apple is on M2 right now, meaning M2 max and M2 Ultra could close the gap a little more. I’m not saying that Apple is going to win anytime soon, soon but I know we’re not too far off from that potentially being the case. Lastly, I also understand that this take comes with a lot of “ifs” and they’re really going to have to hunker down and get to work to get all the kinks, but in reality that’s all that’s in their way if they keep going the way they’re going.

@eruannster

Жыл бұрын

While the performance per watt conversation is certainly a thing, I don't think it's as important as actual raw performance. If I'm actually using a computer for work, let's say I'm compiling code or rendering video, speed matters more. If a client or a director or someone is breathing down my neck and wants stuff done five minutes ago, I'd rather burn 700 watts of power to get done now than wait longer and brag to them about how power efficient my computer is.

@AdamHansen95

Жыл бұрын

@@eruannster right, but it is important for future purposes because if they can still squeeze more performance into a smaller TDP that’s still a good thing. Not to mention, that just gives them more headroom if they want to push the M series chips as hard as it can go in the future. Of course, Apple will never let overclockers touch it, but it is still innovative to know that you can get similar performance with less power draw, and maybe intel or AMD can learn a thing or two. Which they have! Which is why intel started implementing Performance and Efficiency cores into their processors

I currently daily drive a spec'd out 2019 16" MBP. Currently dual-booting windows (for gaming) and macOS (for everything else). I think my next big system purchase could very well be to build this hackintosh, very likely out of used components. I love that you did this and I hope a Hackintosh is as stable as you claim it is. Also, thanks for pointing out how weird reviews of apple computers are. When the M2 macbooks were released I was confused as to why reviewers were hailing them as "the best laptops ever" when laptops with 40 series GPUs were already out and easily outperforming M2 macbooks.

@hhkk6155

Жыл бұрын

Yup, apple grafix is a joke, 38 cores of sheet😂😂😂

I liked the fairness of how this was all compared. watt / power and needs / wants :)

This is what i love and proud about learning from snazzylabs

I switched from bare metal to VM hackintoshing. *SO* much easier to set up. Performance equal to bare metal (better than bare metal for intel 12th and 13th gen, because the Linux host deals with heterogeneous core CPU scheduling). The only sacrifice is setting aside a few GB of RAM for the VM host. But RAM is cheap right now.

@roscoecoltrane6867

Жыл бұрын

Want to share your exact setup for those that want to go down this path?

@davidg5898

Жыл бұрын

@@roscoecoltrane6867 The beauty of VM Hackintoshing is that the exact setup isn't really important. If you want to use a modern GPU, it has to be a compatible AMD card, but the rest of the specs/hardware doesn't really matter. Most people get the best results with Proxmox, QEMU, or ESXi.

This is a great video but I wish you had compared it to the 2019 Mac Pro. Reason being these are now available on the used market for around 2/3rds of the retail price and can also dual boot to windows with the advantage of the same GPU support. I’m considering selling my hackintosh and Mac mini to consolidate into one Mac Pro dual booted

@markaceto

Жыл бұрын

There are some geekbench multi core scores with a 7,1 running a 13900 that destroy all other Mac’s and almost every PC. I need to confirm compatibility but my god it would be epic to install a 4090 for bootcamp (and whatever AMD card for macOS).

@jameswallace6249

Жыл бұрын

@@markaceto I think they are a completely different socket as the cpus are different sizes

Excellent as always. Great video!

Great video. You always manage to explain things in a way that even I can understand! 🙂

You forgot to mention how quiet Macs are - I really cannot overstate how awesome it is to have quiet at my desk since I switched to apple silicon from my old Intel laptop.

@thomgizziz

Жыл бұрын

Depends on which one... the studio gets louder than gaming notebooks...

@DiverseGreen-Anon

Жыл бұрын

@@thomgizziz and you could decide for passive cpu coolers if you want absolutely 0 noise (only maybe coil whine if even..) And "old intel laptop" is not a good comparison in my opinion as nearly all "old" laptops were pretty loud imo and mostly changed in noise pitch (thinkpads and macbooks were deeper for example) today nearly every manufacturer tries to get it as thin as possible and then put some cooling in it which often is at its limit and smaller/thinner fans often have higher, more annoying pitch. Many modern laptops can run passively cooled if not much power is needed and the hardware is under a certain threshold. So I can watch youtube and write documents on an rog flox x13 (amd tho, not "old intel") without the fans even spinning. 🤔

I love your stance on M1. For me M1 is great but waaaaay overhyped. The only real benefit from M1 for most users is the great battery life for notebooks. But I look forward to what it’s potential is.

@GlobalWave1

Жыл бұрын

It’s awesome for small for factors such as laptops and it’s media engines for well certain media.

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t the whole point of a laptop having great battery life 😂 Otherwise, why do laptops have batteries?

@myp0h

Жыл бұрын

100% true. I believe that m1 macs are only good for battery and slight improvement in speeds. I want to get rid of my macbook pro m1. I do prefer Windows interface over mac os

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

Жыл бұрын

@@myp0h if you prefer window OS, then you were never really a mac user. It has nothing to do with the laptop.

@falcongunner33

Жыл бұрын

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu M1 specifically offers much better battery life compared to previous intel versions. A real plus for those that are cross shopping

Awesome video! You should do an HP Ultra Mini PC hackintosh because that’s the similar footprint. For me though the M1 Mini is awesome, and it doesn’t currently give me any reason to want to build a hackintosh since I have a separate dedicated windows gaming PC. I run both my M1 Mini and my gaming PC on the same 55” LG OLED TV and I can switch between them with a single click of the remote. I did build a hackintosh back in 2016 because I was using it for heavy 3D computer graphics work, and I needed 128GB ram and multiple Xeon processors. But now, the M1 Mini is more than powerful enough to meet my needs. And stability on that old hackintosh was not good, and it was a pain in the butt to build and maintain. Also with the development of crossover for the mac, on the latest M2 Studio Ultra you can come close to getting frame rates on windows games that matches my current dedicated NVIDIA 3080TI Windows gaming PC. So I don’t see myself building another windows gaming PC in the future as I will probably end up getting an M3 Max Ultra and just running crossover instead. Also Windows 11 sucks. I’m still on Windows 10 because I can’t stand Windows 11.

Really impresive stuff. Makes me want to try it out. Also, real quick. It just works is very much a troupe. I work in an enterprise environment and I have learned first hand that it very much does not just work. Maybe for home users but not in my enterprise enviornment. It's honestly something I really wish Apple would address because the genral vibe I've gotten from them when talking to them is that that they just don't care.

I think the other issue with a hackintosh now a days is the fact that in the low end the Mac Mini is actually competitive now. 500 dollars with the education discount and I don't think a better value could have been had.

My last hackintosh was built in late 2019. X299 system, gigabyte designare-EX in a Lian-Li case. I9 7940X, fully decked out 128gb ram. I think I spent around $1700 total. Shortly after that, prices skyrocketed after the chip shortage and high tariffs. It has been a great system. Running Ventura on OC .8.8

@IamJewz

Жыл бұрын

This. Very similar build here, X299 has been such a godsend allowing 128 gigs of ram it’s still a powerhouse and then I have my M1 Max for when I’m on the go. My hackintosh was expensive due to the amount of water cooling bits inside but I PC game also so was well worth it.

@Spoolingturbo6

11 ай бұрын

reminder to update your OC =)

The best moment to build a Hackintosh was two years ago. I built 4, everyone in the house use their own and they will pay off in a year or two when it will be time to move to M series Macs. My 5900X based machine is still fantastic daily driver for Xcode and I will move to Mac when it becomes an issue. Which is not looking to be this year.

Never been a huge Mac fan but opencore might convince me to give it a shot.

@RandomUser2401

Жыл бұрын

any current M1/M2 Mac should _really_ convince you. They are awesome machines, espeically the Macbook Pros. Period.

@engineeingnerd

Жыл бұрын

Only for noobs

@ImpiantoFacile

Жыл бұрын

I quit hackintoshes the day MultiBeast and UniBeast were no more, too much hassle with OpenCore.

@jondonnelly4831

Жыл бұрын

Dont do it for real production work.

I build a Hackintosh 2y ago it has been working perfectly so far. I can definitely recommend it! Soon I plan to upgrade the CPU (from ryzen 5 3600)

Really happy to see hackingtosh vids back

This was so interesting to watch, I honestly also look forward to Apple doing stuff with eGPUs. They are a great way for people to upgrade their existing Macs with much better GPU. We have thunderbolt 4 and stuff now, stuff is so fast. Let us have eGPUs!

@thomgizziz

Жыл бұрын

not going to happen... you dont understand apple do you?

@adityalindson

Жыл бұрын

@@thomgizziz well, they had eGPU support until Apple silicon so…

Awesome video as always!

Love your Hackintosh series! Planning my own build, likely 10th gen Intel.

I recently got an old pc from an office and I really want to hackintosh it over the summer but it seemed like an overly complicated process until I watched this well timed video

The music at 01:00 slaps. Added even more class to the channel!

@cinebenjamin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

I love seeing that this is still possible. I might try this when I need to replace my macbook 😊

Would like to see it on P core only with a slight overclock. Probably would run better as processes wouldn't be getting stuck on slower cores. At least everywhere that doesn't make use of more than 10 threads (hyper threading only makes up for so many real cores). Of course it would be really nice to try a workstation class 10 or 12 (or more) P core Xeon, but a lot of things would be nice. The beat deal I saw on those included a $700 SuperMicro board and a high core processor is like $1,000-3,000

It also smashes the electricity bill at the end of the month 🤣

@josh8106

Жыл бұрын

Are you implying that the decreases power consumption makes up for the $2000?

@snazzy

Жыл бұрын

15:05

@osamabinlaggin69

Жыл бұрын

Never heard anybody buy a $4000 to save electricity... Besides the hackintosh doesn't have abnormally high power consumption compared to other PCs, it's just that the mac has very low power consumption.

@PvtAnonymous

Жыл бұрын

@@snazzy never heard of Germany, huh?

@mckidney1

Жыл бұрын

​@@PvtAnonymous Do not be dumb, even in Germany it does not pay and last 20% of performance cost way more tah 20% power. Check out your own deBauer

X86 is Dead, Arm and RISC-V is the future !!!

@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst

Жыл бұрын

arm can do many tasks well, but x86 is what you use to design the arm

@ernstoud

Жыл бұрын

Only if Microsoft provides Windows for RISC-V. Yes, it is available for ARM but not mainstream. The year of “Linux for desktop” has not come and probably will not happen in your lifetime.

@X-OR_

Жыл бұрын

@@ernstoud I Agree !

I have in the past turned my old Lenovo T450s into a Hackintosh and it was right before the M1 MacBook pro 14 came out. Gotta say that it didn't take long until I switched to mac hardware, and bought the 14" MBP. I think that this HackStudio can still be a relevant choice, I'd like to see a HackBook doing so well.

Can you please explain more about how that thunderbolt passthrough to the GPU works / is set up?

Great inspiring video. Can’t seem to get GIGABYTE Z690 AERO D! Can you recommend an alternative with 2.5gb and 10gb Ethernet. Do any of the new Z790 with 13 Gen CPU work with hackintosh?

Is there a program that you are using to run Windows on the MacOS system? Is that parallels or is that something that is built in? Appreciate the video! 13:29

I have run an hackintosh for around an year in the early days, and for early I really mean it, it was with Tiger in around 2006, with my trusty old Pentium 4 and 384MB of sdram. It worked quite well (at least compared to XP), but I have never been able to update it even once!

I was JUST looking at one of your Linux "hackintosh" videos LMAO great to see more!

Not missing the sound of fan or unstable airdrop or limited support for netflix playback in safari. It was nice I build one and used for two years. Now it is back to a regular pc.

honestly what would you recommend for stability: a hypervisor based or bare metal setup ?, please suggest a good tutorial too, it'll really help me build one.

Man, the presentation of this video was superb.

I've built an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X a few years ago, 128gb ram, couple of NVME's, RX6800 from Sapphire, and I have replaced the onboard Intel wifi with a supported Broadcom module (natively supported has airdrop etc just not sidecar but I don't care about that anyway) and it's been great, while my CPU lags behind a bit behind your CPU graphics performance is better, it's been serving me really well through Big Sur all the way to Ventura.

I have a hackintosh using opencore and an AMD 5900X processor, 6900XT GPU and 64 gig ram. The thing flies. Cooling is a custom loop with mostly EK gear so it also runs pretty silen. But its huge, compared to a mac studio anyway (Fractal Design Define 7 chassis).

@mrajewicz

Жыл бұрын

What model of 6900XT did you use? Did you have to do the device id spoofing?

@SnazzyLabs Very informative and unbiased! This is TOP TIER reporting. Subscribing after this! I'm curious if something like the MSI GE67HX laptop with a 12950hx cpu and 3080ti gpu could be converted.

snazzy, are you currently working on a mac mini mini v2? id love to see it with the updated m2 pro mainboard!

I would have used the Dune Pro case, but this build has me very interested.

Man, this takes me back. Used to run come custom bootloaders with MaxOSX86's site and added kexts back on my old dual-Xeon SR-2 EVGA board. I couldn't ever seemingly patch MacOS 10.8 Snow Leopard without it totally borking the install but I mean, it did work if left in vanilla configuration. Too bad nothing modern Nvidia is supported at all as it's some time since I've ran AMD (GPU-wise).

I love that your cooler is bigger than the whole Mac Studio. LOL It always makes you wonder how great the Mac platform could be if they made some simple towers like the old G3s and let people have more flexibility...

You also need an apple machine if you develop for the App Store, since Xcode depends on your MacOS version and inevitably Ventura will not let you publish for the latest iOS SDK.

Still rocking a vm on Manjaro with a Ryzen. I do need to update to Ventura. The last time I updated I did have some issues, even though I used OpenCore. But it’s getting to be time to update again. I’ll likely get an M3 or whatever in the future. But I do like my setup. That virtualized Windows is pretty….snazzy. I didn’t know you could do that.

Very interesting one! Why an i7 and not an i9 from the same Gen? Is it a power drain issue? As long as I prefer the Mac Studio, I need PCIe cards (AJA + Sonnet NVMe RAID). This will make the Mac Studio even more expensive and with limited bandwidth. Now I'm getting a bit over 6000 MB/s on my internal 16TB RAID! I'm considering upgrading my Z390+I9-9900K to this one!. I use it for video editing in FCP and live streaming with Wirecast.

I just got the base M2 mac mini as a simple browsing and sysadmin machine instead of running my loud and warm gaming PC. It's fantastic for that.

OC has been my go-to ever since a couple months ago because of how much more compatible and reliable it is. The fact that OC is way better than Clover is amazing to me.

I used to have Hackintosh back in the Clover days. Still remember the pain of installing system updates.

I've got a spare mini-ITX i7-7700K in a tiny case just sitting in a corner doing nothing, you've inspired me to turn it into a hackintosh just for the giggles.

I built one after selling my Mac Mini 2012 as the graphics were 5H17! It was an easy enough process with watch Technolli videos. I only sold it when the Mac Mini M1 came out. Would love to try it again one day.

the main reason I have an OpenCore Hackintosh is I like using MacOS as a daily driver, but I also like playing games, so I dual boot with Windows. this sort of simplifies my life (apart from the fear of breaking stuff when I install Mac updates), and is cheaper than 2 computers. I have a 10700k, a 6800xt, and an Apple Broadcom wireless card, and everything works apart from a few USB ports due to the aforementioned port limit

Dude, this video should be titled, understanding hackintosh. These things that you described I did not understand like the ahci and patching were valuable because I've been doing some of these things not really understanding how the pieces fit together but that they are simply necessary. Thank you for this

The real Tech-KZreadr. Great Video as always!

Thanks for the video. where do I get the tutorials for installing the macOS?

Tempting, but if I was going to do it, then I'd get a matching case of sorts. I'd like to see a 7 series AMD build for comparison as well (assuming it's compatible with the OS?).

@vad35

Жыл бұрын

It's compatible technically, Mac OS will start and most programs will world but some things like Photoshop or premiere (anything Adobe...) won't be perfect at all, some things won't work at all sadly...

This is a KZreadr that’s passionate about tech. The video was informative.

I love these videos! I recently did the literal opposite - I bought a used iMac Pro 2017 and installed AtlasOS on it - for the form factor and beautiful screen but with windows in mind for Unreal Engine SDK hahaha!

What'd you recommend for virtualizing MacOS?

I mainly use NVIDIA GPUs, so I can't run Hackintoshes anymore. But, man do I love how far they have come! I used to run MacOS on a Sony Vaio Duo 11, a small 2-in-one that relied on Intel iGPU. It was mad fun! Building a custom config.plist, however, sounds like it is not. I use OpenCore on my dad's MacBook Pro from 2015 to keep it up and running, but writing a whole config file for it sounds like one hell of an experience. It also seems like as though you can not build a Hackintosh anymore without access to a physical mac - that is kinda devastating.

@Pushing_Pixels

10 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure you can create your OS installer USB on Windows, with all the needed software for setup.

Would love to learn how to build one…is there somewhere I can goto build what I want for a music production machine that would work for Protools? Also will need about 3 PCIE slots. Maybe will be doing a little Final Cut but mainly audio production.

Definitely wanna try my hand at building "Venture" on a Hackintosh.....gonna start gathering price quotes on the stuff I wanna have in it! Thanks for the vid dude! You've rekindled my interest in Hackintosh building!...LoL!

You promised, and you delivered!!! Thank you Quinn!

I love the modularity and repairability of pc parts, but look at the SIZE DIFFERENCE! 😅 I want a miniITX pc that can keep up with a Mac Studio, THAT would be amazing! Also making a pc look as sleek and simple as a Mac is really difficult. If you have any case recommendations pls tell me! 🙏🏻

@wingerie542

Жыл бұрын

You can easily downsize to 10L or so with these parts (Formd T1). If you're willing to get a dual-slot gpu, you can go smaller, 6L Velka 7. But it's still bigger than Mac Studio's 3.7L.