Third-Person in The Source Engine
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more like the SAUCE engine... with spagheti... mmm.. and meatball.... im so hungry...
/ ratlobr
thumbnail by the frickin' awesome @Jauntyweb
erm... heres chapters:
01:10 - basic third person
03:37 - more advanced third person
05:21 - ACTUAL official third person
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There's a very, VERY obscure Source game in third person called "WWII Experience" which was a multiplayer tank game (similar to war thunder I guess) made by Kuma Games.
@matt92hun
Жыл бұрын
I was gonna mention the Kuma games as well, but turns out they're not as obscure as I thought.
@twistedpeanuts6958
Жыл бұрын
@@matt92hun For some reason, nothing ever is as obscure as one thinks
@Numbabu
Жыл бұрын
@@twistedpeanuts6958 it’s because there are billions of people now. Despite how small the fraction of people around the world with access to the internet and interest in the same part of it as you is, there are just too many people total for it to be as limited as you feel it should be.
@hungryhedgehog4201
Жыл бұрын
Kuma games just like activated locked memories in my brain
@twistedpeanuts6958
Жыл бұрын
@@hungryhedgehog4201 OH WAIT are they the ones that made games for History Channel? I vaguely remember playing a game that had something to do with dinosaurs in a map that kind of looked like Aztec, at the time I was 10 or 9 probably and had no idea what I was doing or seeing. Though I think that was a browser game, I don't think Source engine games can run on a browser
You forgot about a halloween spell in tf2 that miniaturized your character and lets you shoot and fight in 3rd person mode.
@glassramen
Жыл бұрын
Not just that but there's also the being scared mechanic when fighting bosses.
@MrGarryGrey
Жыл бұрын
@@glassramen basically every instance when you cannot fight (with exception of the spell mentioned above). That includes being stunned, scared, using go kart (in halloween event), taunting, under effect of a drink, etc.
@glassramen
Жыл бұрын
@@MrGarryGrey Ye. I just hadn't thought of every instance of it. With how many hours I have in game I really should have been able to list it all off the top of my head.
@Thornskade
Жыл бұрын
@@glassramen I have several thousands of hours and I completely forgot about the spell that puts you in first person. I just remembered the jarate spell from Merasmus where everyone goes under"water" also puts you in third person. TF2 is too many games in one to list all these small things without seriously thinking about it
@Tropical-Aes
Жыл бұрын
Also on hell train, every so often you'll grow really tall and weird, and that brings you into third person
There's also Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines. You can change between first-person and third-person if you're using a gun. However, your character is locked in third-person if you're using melee weapons. The gunplay is, quite frankly, not the best because it's an RPG/Immersive sim
@NyanGeneral
Жыл бұрын
however it is also the greatest game ever made, so gameplay shmameplay
@mementocity
Жыл бұрын
first person in that game is terrible for the most part, and the gunplay too, also the damage is laughable but melee its busted and even in hard difficulties you can tank a lot with the help of skills to use them
@molybdenumrose
Жыл бұрын
Also, VTM:B released before HL2 so it's actually the first Source game. EDIT: I misremembered, Half Life 2 and VTMB came out on the same day, but counterstrike source was the first source game ever released and came out before both. Still, the fact that VTMB was made on a development build of source engine is so fucking funny to me.
@nfsjoey
Жыл бұрын
Gunplay is meh true but if specced into it and paired with Auspex it goes from dogshit to very useable
@nfsjoey
Жыл бұрын
Counter Strike: Source launched a month prior to bloodlines
4:50 i love how hes killing richter overtime npcs lmao
@Aixman
Жыл бұрын
💀💀
@horatio2560
Жыл бұрын
@buildblok85 ☕ 💀💀
Vindictus, Bloodlines, Alien Swarm and Blade Symphony did 3rd Person Source Engine gameplay super smoothly and amazingly.
@ryanwinklevoss
Жыл бұрын
Yea how did he forget vindictus us that game even around anymore?
@mugoloo
5 ай бұрын
I watched the whole video and was shocked Vindictus wasn't included. It may be a microtransaction riddled hellscape run by Nexon (lol) but it is a source game and it's got the best hack-n-slash combat of any game I've ever played.
Actually hl2 thirdperson Gordon isn't concrete, it's the metal texture from his hl1 player model hev suit
@LynxErgo
Жыл бұрын
🤓
@ifitsnotbrokedontfixit24435
Жыл бұрын
@@LynxErgo 🤓 -🤓
@Destroyer_Jayy
Жыл бұрын
cool
@Ubertheheavy324
10 ай бұрын
@@LynxErgo testicle tickler 300
"And I doubt they'll ever use third person again." Deadlock. **walks in**
Postal 3 is one of the games ever made. It has gameplay, a main character, and objectives. It is able to be run on computers. My favourite part is when Postal Dude says "it's Posting time!" and goes Postal.
@WickedFamix
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the full Postal scene made it into the game where he Postals all over everyone. Truly deserves that 500% Rotten Tomatoes score
@Thornskade
Жыл бұрын
Postal 3 is indeed a made game
@DoorP3
Жыл бұрын
Wait, portal III existed? Man It was so bad even RWS hated it
@Gilbert2988
Жыл бұрын
AH! You’re hilarious! (sarcastic)
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
Жыл бұрын
@@Gilbert2988 it was 4 months ago. The joke was not nearly as played out then as it is now
There are actual addons for L4D2 that fix the issues with the thirdperson commands, that make it really good, honestly. The reason why Postal III helped in leaking beta HL2 content is because it was using an older version of the Source engine, which when the out-sourced devs got their hands on it from Valve, Valve neglected to remove anything regarding HL2. Should also mention, you are correct on saying Alien Swarm isn't third-person, it's top-down i.e. Hotline Miami and such. Great video.
@JasperTedVidalTale
Жыл бұрын
Top-down is 2.5D third-person or 2D third-person same with side-view and isometric view and other perspectives that i may not know about but still involves being able to see and control your protagonist
@AverageMichaelJordans
Жыл бұрын
alien swarm my beloved
@Thornskade
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it actually is third-person. It is also top-down but the position of the camera doesn't matter for the definition of perspective, those are two separate things I.e. what he discussed in this video is typically called "over the shoulder"
@madbruv
10 ай бұрын
@@Thornskadenah its typically called third person
@Thornskade
10 ай бұрын
@@madbruv No, that's the broad term. I mean the specific perspective. Alien Swarm is third-person, but top-down. With he other games he tried to be over the shoulder.
Vampires the Masquarade has a very usable third person mode. In fact you're forced into it if you do any melee attacks.
the amount of dread i felt realising you were talking about postal 3
@markfungus
Жыл бұрын
they never made a third game wdym
@zaiden_2006
Жыл бұрын
@@markfungus in the deepest recesses of hell, even below the hell pit under the lucky ganesh, you’ll find the worst game ever on the source engine.
@albertoftasmania
Жыл бұрын
@@markfungus Exactly. It goes Postal 1, 2, 4; No regrets, Redux, Brain Damaged.
@gamagama69
Жыл бұрын
@@albertoftasmania is it acutally worse than 4? i heard 4 was also awful
@weasel5905
Жыл бұрын
@@gamagama69 It is,
Vindictus is a source game, it's a third person action dungeon crawler brawler.
@exaltedb
Жыл бұрын
Vindictus is interesting as it’s the only source game I’m aware of that is a full-blown mmorpg
@LucasTigy2
Жыл бұрын
i'm surprised this was entirely forgotten since it is entirely in third person and kinda of a large game
@Tehpwnzmean1
Жыл бұрын
Was hoping this would get mentioned, game had a strong run even.
5:01 why did you search furry in workshop
@ratlobber
Жыл бұрын
no comment
@crylune
Жыл бұрын
So that the video is haha funny
@sirincompetent758
Жыл бұрын
joke.mp4
Your intros/outros are the best on YT by far, impeccable
@icemasterpro
Жыл бұрын
The intro felt like an Adult Swim commercial break
@fckSashka
Жыл бұрын
omg i love them so much
@sherman9869
Жыл бұрын
You’d like happy world daddy’s transitions then
@n3onf0x
Жыл бұрын
They got that nostalgic 2000s vibe to it
@zacqonos
Жыл бұрын
how??? they are so extremely lazy
A couple addendum to the L4D2 thirdperson: third-person is forcefully disabled in versus mode in third-person, all of your own shotgun shots are silent.
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
Жыл бұрын
It was the same way in L4D1. The things hit shotgun collision sounds made noise though. I am ashamed to say I used to cheat in VS Mode by using extreme third person camera views to peek through walls. I believe it was eventually disabled.
"Blade Symphony", "Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines", "Vindictus", "Hybrid" are all third person commercial games made in source.
in HL2's case, the playermodel is gordon from HL1 with no textures (he has a model at all, cause HL1 had multiplayer) (so does HL2, but its as a separate game for some reason - Half-Life 2: Deathmatch, which you get for free with purchase of HL2)
Bro im so happy about your videos, they're exactly what i wouldve made and finding out i can do more in life and be satisfied with what i dream about is done thank you so much for your beautiful work!
Great work! I really liked the video, and the preview, it's very simple, but it contains something special, I love it!
Your motion graphics / editing skills are incredible! Every intro in your videos has a distinct feel and sound to it, but they all retain the same sense of identity. I see big potential in your channel and I hope it blows up in views soon! ^^
This is actually very well edited and informative, really cool!
You can also use third person in l4d2 as special infected of course you'll need to open a map with command prompt and do versus but what you need to type in command prompt is viewdistance and put a negative numbers and i think its works pretty well
Bro really got caught killing pitcher overtime
duuude, your videos are so high quality. great job. so glad i was able to find this channel
Holyyyy shit good video. Stumbled onto it completely randomly, very happy to see Double Action Boogaloo somewhere outside of my friend group, more people need to know how fun that game is lmao. Keep up the good stuff :)
You just earned a subscriber! I always wondered of the 3rd person modes in gmod,cs source, and tf2!
i have NEVER seen the half life 2 playermodel breathe like that and it’s cursed and horrifying and i never ever would’ve imagined it could do that, i am disturbed and fascinated in equal parts
your videos definitely deserve more views and stuff, they are really good
i love when he was showing how you can mod gmod he searched furry mods
It's me, the one person who's played Alien Swarm. It's honestly pretty underrated. Also if Alien Swarm is third person then Dota 2 is too
@El_Batipapa
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people have, and it's a great game, I had an absolute blast playing it specitally with my friends and would honestly play it again
Man your type of humor is perfect. I'm a fan now. Thank you
You deserve more, This channel is great
Added note: Jumpers in the tf2 community, specifically demo sticky jumpers some of them use third person for jumping (its looked down upon by some) but it has its uses and works really well
@Thornskade
Жыл бұрын
Never heard of that. Does the position of the camera matter to them? If you don't know the third-person command has a glitch where when you join another map or server, your camera moves up. Only the first map/server you join after booting the game has the camera in its normal position. You can correct this with commands that move the camera back down but I'm just curious
4:40 - now you remind me there was an official Resident Evil 6 / Left 4 Dead 2 crossover pack (I still have that installed). I guess I could try Third Person with the RE6 Model Swap packs.
This is a really well made video!
titanfall 2 is also technically source (as im sure you know including apex n all) and all those getting in and out of titan animations are great examples! amazing video mate
Your video editing style is very pleasing
5:22 thanks. Now all day I'm just gonna be thinking about EMINEM *BALLIN UNCONTROLLABLY B-BALLIN UNCONTROLLABLY BALLIN UNCONTROLLABLY BALLIN UNCONTROLLABLY*
am i the only one who noticed him killing all those richter overtime NPCs LOL 4:56
Double action: Boogaloo is actually a somewhat source version of the halflife mod the spacialist (which is really good). I think only like one of the og devs of the specialist is working on it so thats that. But yea, i can't stress enough how good the specialist was, it was more on the matrix side of things than max payne tho
@JellyJman
Жыл бұрын
I love DAB great game!!
@HypeRapEnjoyer
Жыл бұрын
The building site with MC Hammer on the radio! Memories!
@HypeRapEnjoyer
Жыл бұрын
The Specialists actually has a really cool mechanic in 3rd person: If someone would not be visible in 1st person, they aren't shown in 3rd person either. Like if you're laying behind cover, you can't just spy people on the other side.
Dino DDay is another good example of Third-person/First-person mix. And I've got to say it's pretty well done and fun to play.
This video came to my recomended never heard of you before so I decided to watch. I watched the whole video and checked out how many subs you have and it was a lot lower than I thought it would be. I hope you pop off or at least that this video goes viral
Loving this content my guy.
great video! just here to say alien swarm is one of my favorite games of all time. i wish it had been more popular. most of my experience was trying to convince friends to do runs with me.
Dude why are your intros so cool and amazing mr lobber
Haven’t heard Balling Uncontrollably in years. Thank you.
great idea for a video, this was interesting!
Hearing ballin' uncontrollably made me immediately subscribe
very interesting video concept, and a very good video!
Amazing video! Great niche topic and nice narration! 😎🤙🏻
Thanks for using DnB as background music, mah favorite!
2:16 He's on rollerskates😂
dude you using ballin uncontrollably caught me absurdly off guard i forgot about that song
Lfd has those 3rd person moments when you get damaged by blasts aswell as when you are healing
Nice work RatLob
I seem to recall that when developing Postal 3, Akella was working with Valve to change the engine. However, that went down the toilet when Postal 3 was moved to Trashmasters (their shovelware department) when Akella started laying off employees and was edited by them for some reason. If you find the "postal3videos" channel, one of the first videos shows the original third person mode and the player crouching. The leak in which beta stuff for TF2 and Half-Life was found in includes the original third persin, which had a toggle. In the final game, the third person is a tweaked first person camera with the player as the view model, while the beta was a tweaked third person mode edited to be more functional Some other features from the team working with valve include bodygroupped prefabbed NPCs with over 200 materials and bodygroupped flexes. Many other features were cut, sadly
Portal 1 and 2 are in the unintended cheats category (and I imagine the camera would suck for aiming and flinging), but the engine does actually give you a proper simulated character model in single player so that you appear properly in portals, and that applies to third person as well. I've also been pretty frustrated by the fact that gmod locks thirdperson behind sv_cheats; why can't I get the achievement points for spawning props just cause I want to be in third person lol
i was so ready to leave a comment about postal 3 thanks for not forgetting
underrated channel alert
I love the aesthetic
6:19 "You've gotta be fucking kidding..."
not that bullets go where your crosshair is on CSGO anyway lmao
I’m really curious where you find your music and what inspired your video intros. They’re unlike anything Ive ever seen on youtube, and I just love the tracks you use. Do you have like, any clear points of inspiration for these things?
@ratlobber
Жыл бұрын
i see a lot of people compare the intros to MDE/Adult Swim bumps but that isn't really what I aim for. i see the similarities though. sometimes i watch lot of late 90's VH1/MTV commercials to get inspired. the music just comes from a big catalog of mixes that i like. i don't know what every song is called otherwise i'd list them. thanks for watching friend
@Wertyhappy27
Жыл бұрын
@@ratlobber Its just so, odd, to see lol
@hypsal
Жыл бұрын
i don't know all the songs but here are a few for the people wondering 0:00 Noir FM - Midnight Heart 1:12 / 5:26 psiX - Endemic 3:44 Deadly Arts - Gouriki Stage Theme 4:45 psiX - Don't Give Up
@ratlobber
Жыл бұрын
@@hypsal thank u very much my friend
@mysteryY2K
Жыл бұрын
check out Jungle music, specifically intelligent jungle. breakcore too
There's this Source mod called "Water - The Magical Mermaid Adventure," Its a good example of third-person in community mods.
ballin uncontrollably caught me off guard
Vindictus, fluid third person hack n slash on source
CSGO has many third-person convars that you can tweak to customize how the camera works. You can move the camera to be over-the-shoulder, tilt it any way you want, and even make it so that the crosshair lines up to where the shot will land (although it will never be fully accurate, since the bullets go from the player model, not from the camera model - divergent lines and all that)
this video was very gaming
The majority of my source content is in Third p. and i did all of Black Mesa , Portal 1, and Mel in that mode. Love playing the games like that. Someday iw get to covering atleast HL2 with a proper Gordon model with acurate animations.
@pde2619
Жыл бұрын
You're sick
@blackyoshi1230
Жыл бұрын
Didn't the JP Arcade version of _Half-Life 2_ have a retail Gordon model? Or is the closest we even have to a modern official Gordon is in the ending of _Alyx?_
“Valve has never ventured into the third person territory” Alien swarm and dota: am i a joke to you?
I never thought you would talk about the pstal series
Niche Topic. Great video.
I love your intros
Dude your content is a literal heaven send of my autistic interests, god I pray for your content to soar you brillant eagle, seriously you have some real love put into your content!
@zangl2955
8 ай бұрын
Based autist. I like ratlobber cuz he does autistic content but he’s also funny. You can tell he went outside and played with his cousins and shit as a kid, u feel me?
@sheeppf5265
7 ай бұрын
mood
A simple wikipedia search also found these Source games which feature at least in some part, a third-person perspective: Kuma\War - "... is a free tactical first and third-person shooter game..." Hybrid - "... is a downloadable third-person shooter video game..." Blade Symphony - "... is reminiscent of and inspired by Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast ... first and third-person..." (This is just surface level research, some games in the Source engine wiki might have small features that include a third-person element to them but have no mention of it on the wiki).
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines came out before half life 2, uses the source engine and has real third person mode
Gunning down richterOT was funny as fuck lol
thanks ratlob very cool
A couple of years ago there was a third person LTM in Apex Legends, which runs off a modified Source engine.
6:39 listen postal 3 is bad but you can't say that when hunt down the freeman exists
"...but then I had a very good idea: I used F5. See, using F5 gave me a whole new perspective, an in the third person mode I could see things I couldn't before."
your intros are sick.
I love how you put breakcore and dnb at your videos.
the third person intro in Underhell chapter 2 was pretty neat
subscribed based on the intro graphic alone
i love the 90s intros
ballin uncontrollably
Double action boogaloo was amazing
Double Action Boogaloo is sick. It's great.
a very noteworthy third person source game that had some relevance back in its heyday but is completely dead and buried nowadays is Blade Symphony. sword-based fighting game made on the source engine, where you could freely download weapons from the workshop and they showed up for both players, also had free roaming and FFA battle modes. had a lot of fun with it, too bad on top of no more players the devs apparently turned it into a f2p microtransaction heavy mobile game-ish messy jamboree.
There was a Mann vs. Machine server I used to go on a lot that had a third person mod and honestly shit adds a whole new dimension to TF2
There's Vindictus, which is an MMO entirely within Source engine. It's also 100% third person.
Alien swarm and vampire the masquerade come to mind as well, but woof
For CS:GO, there's more commands to change where your character aims during Third Person. As its aim is set to a locked place, it's never directly on the crosshair.
"Who has ever played Alien Swarm even?" Me, who played about 4.3 hours of modded gameplay in Alien Swarm Reactive Drop: *Raises hand*
postal 3's third person is very interesting, as it shares the same issues that cs:go's third person has where your bullets dont hit the crosshair, so the same thing applies there. but its also not the true third person source has itself. the third person in postal 3 is actually an edited first person mode, so by default you are always in first person, its just the camera has an edited position (can be changed thanks to console commands as well). if you activate third person through the console, you get into the source engine third person and the game is quite literally made unplayable, thanks to the camera just constantly not being in the view of your character and can go out of bounds. GOOD VID BTW I DO LIKE MY THIRD PERSON GAMEPLAY IN GAMES LIKE THESE
At this point, we will watch anything
Very interesting.
why am i learnin that the orange box has a sick ass trailer just now
i love it